Originally Posted by RomanFlare
I'm not going to watch the first video, because I already read the title. I have every right to be pissed of with the referee's horrible decisions. Football, No I don't throw a tantrum over football. Professional Football, yes. Not only do the players get paid money, but people bet their own money on those damn games. When the referees are forcing an outcome, that screws people over, big.
I won't throw some tantrum over college or High School, but when you start fucking over a professional team. I'm sorry that I am a big fan of the sport Roman, but I'm a big fucking fan of the sport.
As for the videos.
The first one doesn't look illegal to me. In fact, the title of the video is called "big hit" not "illegal hit". He doesn't exactly lead with his helmet, nor did he have contact with the other player's helmet. The description is actually praising the hit, and the people in the comments are too busy getting into a Steelers vs Patriots war. Plus, the game took place in 2008, before the NFL started making the hits stricter, way before it.
I'm not sure when the second one took place, but it was also uploaded in 2008. Ward is known for being dirty, he's up their with Flair, but he is also known as a great blocker, and that was a great block in my eyes. I'd be saying the same thing if Tom Brady made a block like that. The clip goes too fast, and the angle is too far away, for me to be able to determine whether he hit him with his helmet or not.
The third video, I remember that game. It was 2009, and if we didn't win that game, we were 100% out of the running for playoffs. Not only did they move that game up (They moved it up so the other teams would be able to prevent the Steelers from getting in if they won) but it was also very emotional. These guys are grown, angry men, out there to hit as hard as they can. Rey Lewis said in his pump up speech Sunday night "Let's hurt these boys". With that type of emotion, what do you think would happen? I agree though, that hit was illegal. I can't remember if Ike was fined or not, but this was in 2009...once again the league was a little lighter.
Oh I knew one of these would come up, a James Harrison video! Even better, a recent one! That video is ridiculous, a late hit, are you fucking kidding me. Roman, did you watch this videos before you decided to use them in your meek argument? Not only was James Harrison running at full speed, angry as fuck that the line let Sanchez break out like that, but he barely touches him. James starts diving before Sanchez starts diving, and if you know anything about physics, there would be no way for James to stop himself before he hit Sanchez, and yet, he barely hit Sanchez at all. That didn't look in any sort of way, painful at all.
Up next, we have another Harrison one. First of all, with all the controversy surrounding Harrison over his hits, you kind of took the easy way out picking videos of him. Cribbs isn't on the ground yet in this video, and Harrison is once again running full speed, trying to do his job and stop him. Of course he got helmet to helmet, I'm not sure if he was fine, but he should have been. Plus this was a division game, there's more emotion going into rivalry games.
Helmet-to-helmet hits happen every week, nearly every game, by many different players. These our angry, grown men, with a lot of emotion going into their playing, with the rules just recently getting stricter. Some may call Harrison a head hunter, but I think he's just trying to play football.
Lastly, we have our third straight Harrison video, out of six...and it's not even an illegal take down. Vince Young is fast, and he likes to scramble. There were 3 guys there, and they all wanted to take him down. They all did take him down, and all though it was a hard hit, it wasn't illegal, and thus this video is not a great video either.
You wanna see some big hits, watch this video.
Roman, shut the fuck up. We know you hate the Steelers, and we all know I love the Steelers. Putting us together isn't going to be pretty. Just please, if you want to put up an argument, put up an argument. We're both being bias, but at least I can agree when some of those players should have been fined.
All of the videos you showed, never showed any players doing any illegal hits because they knew they would get caught. Smith admitted that he already saw the pass interference flag, and played dirty on his side of the ball...which led to him getting the TD unpunished, and not getting any of the blame. That is why the referees should wait until the play is over, to start throwing flags.