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    Quote Originally Posted by K2Jelly View Post
    Asinine ideas? Such as?
    Gays shouldn't marry because it's "against God's will." Two wars that were started, in part, because a religion.



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    Quote Originally Posted by thejman93 View Post
    Gays shouldn't marry because it's "against God's will." Two wars that were started, in part, because a religion.
    That's actually a part of that religion; Christianity anyway.

    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-f018.html


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    Since I love Bacon and Porn, I'll see you lots in hell as well.

    and fuck it, give me some of that Beer too.
    That's the spirit

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    Quote Originally Posted by K2Jelly View Post
    That's actually a part of that religion; Christianity anyway.

    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-f018.html
    Do you think that should still stand up in 2012, though? The Bible was written a long time ago; I'm sure God couldn't have foreseen gay marriage ever being as prevalent as it is now. Wouldn't he want all his people to be treated with respect?



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    Quote Originally Posted by thejman93 View Post
    Do you think that should still stand up in 2012, though? The Bible was written a long time ago; I'm sure God couldn't have foreseen gay marriage ever being as prevalent as it is now. Wouldn't he want all his people to be treated with respect?
    We're taught that His doctrine on sin is unchanging; societal norms don't have relevance on what He defines as sin so whether or not it was written years ago doesn't reflect outdatedness in our eyes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by K2Jelly View Post
    We're taught that His doctrine on sin is unchanging; societal norms don't have relevance on what He defines as sin so whether or not it was written years ago doesn't reflect outdatedness in our eyes.
    Fair enough, my man. Just seems strange to me...



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    Quote Originally Posted by thejman93 View Post
    Fair enough, my man. Just seems strange to me...
    I understand. On the surface, it appears to be prejudice but it really isn't once you look at it from His perspective. Anything that rebels or contradicts His nature and endeavors is considered sinful.


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    You got it, man. If God really is this sort of a judgmental, hateful prick, why would I, or anyone else who claims to be a loving person, want to align with that sort of thing? That shit just doesn't compute.
    Oh Ape, you are taking the logic of a few and applying it to a massive group. Haven't we discussed this before? I understand the argument you are making because the majority of "Christians" or "God Fearing Men" you see on television or run into on the streets pushing beliefs upon you are quite frankly, wrong. The difference is that most would rather preach the Old Testament rather than focus on the aspect of what Christians are supposed to believe; being the teachings of Christ in the New Testament. This is where the negative connotation of Christianity these people are more "Religious" than "Spiritual". To Clarify - Religion is a man made idea of how the Bible is to be interpreted. Spirituality is the connection you have with your Lord. They want to nitpick over the fact that some churches dance, where as they believe it's wrong to do so. I got into an argument with a teacher who was Church of Christ over this. They did not allow musical instruments in their church because music leads to promiscuity. My argument was that David, being the "Apple of God's eye", sang and danced for the Lord while playing the Harp. It hardly seems to me that God would punish you or dislike you because you had a piano playing in your church.

    The fact that I am going to make and leave this topic alone is this. Jesus made the best statement possible when sparing the Adulterating woman from the stoning. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." The example is that we are all sinners (according to the actions of Adam) and when Jesus makes the comment "Why look at the spec in one man’s eye when there is a plank in your own" tells us that it's not our job to be the final judge of a person. We as Christians are to be an example as to what our Lord has done for us (our testimony), not step in the Lords place to tell you what is right or wrong in your life, unless you are in need of my council. Then I would provide you with what change my life and how blessed I am after turning my life to Christ, my savior. Jesus said that the two greatest commandments were to Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and to Love others as you would Love yourself. If you see people who aren't following the two greatest commandments, then you are looking at someone who's "Religious" mindset is out weighing his "Spiritual" life.

    To me, the idea of "Christians are against Gay Marriage" is inaccurate. All major "Religions" are against gay marriage. I am pretty sure it is not acceptable in other forms of "spiritual" ideas, but Christians are the ones to be blamed because they are commonly witnessed inside media outlets speaking their mind about the topic. The problem is they speak to the radicals who just say things like "Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" rather than talking to Christians who have logical thoughts and can present the idea that they are following the words of the Book of Life as it pertains to that specific subject. It’s kind of the same thing with Rednecks and Tornados. The only seem to pick the craziest of the bunch, rather than talk to the smart man who followed proper protocol and knows how to speak eloquently. On that, I have no further comment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by K2Jelly View Post
    I understand. On the surface, it appears to be prejudice but it really isn't once you look at it from His perspective. Anything that rebels or contradicts His nature and endeavors is considered sinful.
    I get it, I guess. It just doesn't float my boat, y'know?

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