1. #36861
    Premier League 2012/13 if shots that hit the frame of the goal were recorded as goals:

    Position Team P W D L F A GD Pts
    1 Man Utd 38 30 3 5 110 57 53 93
    2 Man City 38 24 8 6 82 41 41 80
    3 Tottenham 38 23 7 8 83 52 31 76
    4 Liverpool 38 23 6 9 90 45 45 75
    5 Arsenal 38 22 8 8 88 41 47 74
    6 Chelsea 38 21 9 8 83 50 33 72
    7 Everton 38 19 10 9 76 57 19 67
    8 West Brom 38 17 5 16 68 68 0 56
    9 Stoke City 38 13 10 15 46 55 -9 49
    10 Southampton 38 11 12 15 65 73 -8 45
    11 West Ham 38 13 5 20 54 71 -17 44
    12 Swansea 38 11 10 17 58 72 -14 43
    13 Norwich 38 11 10 17 48 70 -22 43
    14 Fulham 38 11 7 20 69 80 -11 40
    15 Sunderland 38 9 12 17 48 68 -20 39
    16 Wigan 38 12 3 23 55 84 -29 39
    17 Aston Villa 38 10 8 20 57 88 -31 38
    18 Newcastle 38 10 7 21 57 87 -30 37
    19 QPR 38 8 6 24 39 80 -41 30
    20 Reading 38 5 8 25 52 89 -37 23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Austin View Post
    They lost that last year too.



    Champions League with just champions would be rubbish. Europa would end up better.

    Yeah but think if Spurs were struggling to get top 4 (Like this year) and won it, or come 4th, won the Europa but Chelsea came 5th and won CL, both teams would be in it.
    Exactly, the Champions league would be the elite. The Europa League would be worth watching. Everyone wins.

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    So if Liverpool win EL next season and Chelsea win CL yet they come 5th and 6th we'd have 6 teams in CL. Class!


    Quote Originally Posted by THE HEARTBREAK KID View Post
    Exactly, the Champions league would be the elite. The Europa League would be worth watching. Everyone wins.
    Elite or Utd, Bayern and Barca every year.
    Would get awful views until the semi finals with teams from the obscure leagues that would get hammered 15-0 every game.

    Europa League would be better with Madrid, City, Dortmund, Chelsea etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Austin View Post
    So if Liverpool win EL next season and Chelsea win CL yet they come 5th and 6th we'd have 6 teams in CL. Class!


    Elite or Utd, Bayern and Barca every year.
    Would get awful views until the semi finals with teams from the obscure leagues that would get hammered 15-0 every game.

    Europa League would be better with Madrid, City, Dortmund, Chelsea etc.
    Well off course it would be the elite. It's the Champions. Okay, let's make it top two then I just like how they had it before, not a fan of seeing team's struggle in there own league and then win supposedly the best club competition in the world, like Chelsea. The best teams win there own league and then win the Champions league, that's what makes them the Elite. Like United, Barcelona and Bayern if they win it.

    Plus there's nothing wrong with making the Europa League better is there? For me, it's not worth watching how it is now. Then how teams who lose in the Champions League can go in the Europa league and try and win that.. I dunno, I don't like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE HEARTBREAK KID View Post
    Exactly, the Champions league would be the elite. The Europa League would be worth watching. Everyone wins.
    You're smart, Champions League with like 5 good teams. Elite

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE HEARTBREAK KID View Post
    Well off course it would be the elite. It's the Champions. Okay, let's make it top two then I just like how they had it before, not a fan of seeing team's struggle in there own league and then win supposedly the best club competition in the world, like Chelsea. The best teams win there own league and then win the Champions league, that's what makes them the Elite. Like United, Barcelona and Bayern if they win it.

    Plus there's nothing wrong with making the Europa League better is there? For me, it's not worth watching how it is now. Then how teams who lose in the Champions League can go in the Europa league and try and win that.. I dunno, I don't like that.
    Teams struggle in their own league because it's that competetive, don't wanna make the CL a laughing stock! People wanna the Europe's best teams not Europe's most obscure, a team with part time players from some country no ones heard of.

    I get what you're saying about Chelsea but it just shows how good our league is that they can beat Bayern and Barca yet can't beat Wigan.

    Europa is gonna improve with this new addition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by akbar View Post
    You're smart, Champions League with like 5 good teams. Elite
    So what would you call an all... CHAMPIONS league then?. It would seem to me the elite of those country's? No? Go home Akbar.

    You just know Arsenal would never see the Champions league again! Least you wouldn't have to watch your piss poor attempt at trying to compete at that level though right?.

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