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  1. #11
    I hate triple h. Triple h is a snake. Something about him gives off those types. He's one of the reasons why shane o mac left the company. If the miz can get a run as wwe champ then everyone should get a run. Dolph ziggler AIN'T all that. Shawn michaels wasn't all that in the 90s, to be honest he wasn't even top ten as far as being over. I hate how people overrate dx as if the group was some revolutionary group that shook the wrestling world. Wolfpac >>> dx. I hate the shawn michaels/ bret hart era because that wasn't anything close to a era. That was the wwe starving during its lowest point. Bishoff and heyman>>> Vince in terms of creativity in the 90s. Kevin nash was a beast in wcw . People should stop hating and appreciate what he did in the 90s.

    People need to stop acting like the wwe divas division is important. The perverted Vince needs to come back. I know he missed with the katie vick storyline ( ya know the one where hhh is butt naked with a kane cutout mask on humping a dummy in a casket); but he hit it out of the park with that torrie wilson/ dawn marie stuff. Bra and panties matches need to be a staple for the divas division.

    I hate how they took away smackdown`s uniqueness. It had its own feel that was different from raw. I hate how undertaker has aged. Anonymous gm. Yeah right , I don't believe in that hornswoggle gm bullcrap. I hate the bullcrap the wwe put booker t through from the start of his wwe career to the king booker stuff.

    I absolutely hate the stone cold and cm punk comparisons. Stone cold was an outlaw that was whooping anyone and everyone's ass. He simply wasn't about being defiant towards the authority. He wasn't even trying to do that. He just didn't give a damn about anything. Just look at how careless he carried the wwe championship belt. That's just who he was. Cm punk isn't that. Complaining about your status in the company isn't the same as whooping ass. Stone cold was raw realness that won't be duplicated ever. No comparison.
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  2. #12
    Shawn Michaels wasen't all that in the 90's? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Wow, good one.



    I like Nash too, but a beast.. Okay, not even Nash thinks so highly of himself.

    Each to there own opinions though I guess.

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  3. #13
    Mankind, the rock, stone cold, the ultimate warrior, kevin nash, sting, bret hart, hulk hogan, goldberg, and taz were more over than shawn michaels during the 90s`. In the grand scheme of things. Shawn michaels wasn't making any rumbling compared to the guys I just mentioned. When you compare the height of their popularity to shaen michaels, they're superior to him.

    Kevin Nash had a year long reign as wwf champ. He's one of the few guys to have a wwf and wcw championship reign in a stacked decade full of main event household names. He was part of two of the most popular stables of the 90s`. He broke goldberg`s streak. Dude definitely had the it factor in wcw. If that isn't beast mode especially in the 90s` then I don't know what is.

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    So, I'm assuming you ain't talking about the whole 90's, just towards the back end of it- because, HBK was good all through the 90's and that's the major difference from some of the people you have said. HBK is the best of all time, only really Flair can challenge him on that front as a performer, I believe. You don't earn the names "Main Event" "Show Stopper" "Mr. Wrestlemania" without having something about you.. Maybe your not a fan? Either way, you are wrong on this one.

    Taz over HBK? You must be joking man Ha! I don't agree with you at all. You didn't even mention Taker, surprising.

    HBK and Bret, carried the load when people were jumping ship for the money at WCW- Without them two, being as good as they were, who knows what would have happened to the WWE at them early stages.

    I can see some points you made with Nash, or more importantly, Diesal during the early 90's and I was, still am, a fan of the guy but a beast? I don't know about that. Plus, without HBK, there is no Kevin Nash. In effect, HBK got him over too, when Diesal turned on him, went baby face, his reaction was good, again making your earlier point, very questionable as HBK was a good over heel, which made Diesal a good face to feud with. Plus, I could be wrong, didn't Nash struggle to draw money as WWE Champ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE HEARTBREAK KID View Post
    So, I'm assuming you ain't talking about the whole 90's, just towards the back end of it- because, HBK was good all through the 90's and that's the major difference from some of the people you have said. HBK is the best of all time, only really Flair can challenge him on that front as a performer, I believe. You don't earn the names "Main Event" "Show Stopper" "Mr. Wrestlemania" without having something about you.. Maybe your not a fan? Either way, you are wrong on this one.

    Taz over HBK? You must be joking man Ha! I don't agree with you at all. You didn't even mention Taker, surprising.

    HBK and Bret, carried the load when people were jumping ship for the money at WCW- Without them two, being as good as they were, who knows what would have happened to the WWE at them early stages.

    I can see some points you made with Nash, or more importantly, Diesal during the early 90's and I was, still am, a fan of the guy but a beast? I don't know about that. Plus, without HBK, there is no Kevin Nash. In effect, HBK got him over too, when Diesal turned on him, went baby face, his reaction was good, again making your earlier point, very questionable as HBK was a good over heel, which made Diesal a good face to feud with. Plus, I could be wrong, didn't Nash struggle to draw money as WWE Champ?
    Well and and the late Undertaker.

  6. #16
    I was talking about popularity wise, he was never really top ten in the 90s. Shawn michaels reign as champ and as top dog in the wwf didn't draw either. As soon as he left stone cold and the rock carried the wwf to new heights after shawn and bret carried it to new lows.There were other guys more over than shawn michaels in the 90s whether they were face or heel. The rock(heel), stone cold (face), The ultimate warrior(face), Bret Hart(heel), mankind(face), sting(face),Goldberg(face), hulk hogan(heel), taz(heel), and ddp(face). These guys were more over than michaels. Shawn probably had the best matches of anyone in the 90s, but he's just top 15 in popularity in the 90s. He wasn't really over until the mid 90s.

    Taz as a heel was the best heel in ecw and arguably the biggest star in ecw. He was the ecw version of stone cold and Goldberg in terms of being a badass. Diesel didn't draw money, but kevin nash did.

    I would add in kurt angle in the mix for greatest in ring performer of all time as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realwrestling View Post
    People need to stop acting like the wwe divas division is important. The perverted Vince needs to come back. I know he missed with the katie vick storyline ( ya know the one where hhh is butt naked with a kane cutout mask on humping a dummy in a casket); but he hit it out of the park with that torrie wilson/ dawn marie stuff. Bra and panties matches need to be a staple for the divas division.

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    I actually hate how the divas get very little time to get over with the Raw crowd. Divas can wrestle, if you don't believe that... Turn on Becky Lynch vs Sasha Banks from a few months ago. It honestly is my favorite match this year. The idea of bringing us back to the Torrie Wilson days when they were more of something to look at than a wrestler seems awful. They can make a diva seem sexy, and not make me feel like I'm watching soft porn.
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  9. #19
    Until the wwe is willing to give the divas division consistency in its importance then I will take the division seriously. This past monday raw was the most exciting segment I've seen since awesome kong`s wwe debut, but it's all a flash in a pan to me. The wwe never took it seriously from the beginning so you can't expect someone to change their outlook suddenly about the division. The divas division gets like 5 minutes on a three hour show. That alone speaks volume to where the divas division fits into the wwe`s social hierarchy. My preference is to bring back back bra and panties matches because it'll at least get me interested in what their doing. In hindsight , let's not kid ourselves; Vince McMahon doesn't give a damn about the divas division. He figures the wwe universe need a piss break every now and then so they can re-up on some Cena merch. That's why I say we might as well bring the perverted vince back so the diva segments can go from piss break status to at least something worth watching.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realwrestling View Post
    Until the wwe is willing to give the divas division consistency in its importance then I will take the division seriously. This past monday raw was the most exciting segment I've seen since awesome kong`s wwe debut, but it's all a flash in a pan to me. The wwe never took it seriously from the beginning so you can't expect someone to change their outlook suddenly about the division. The divas division gets like 5 minutes on a three hour show. That alone speaks volume to where the divas division fits into the wwe`s social hierarchy. My preference is to bring back back bra and panties matches because it'll at least get me interested in what their doing. In hindsight , let's not kid ourselves; Vince McMahon doesn't give a damn about the divas division. He figures the wwe universe need a piss break every now and then so they can re-up on some Cena merch. That's why I say we might as well bring the perverted vince back so the diva segments can go from piss break status to at least something worth watching.
    What you're suggesting is sexist and pretty degrading to the women. A much better idea would be to hope that they continue to invest some good work into the Divas division (which has picked up as of late if you've been watching) and make something worth watching out of it.

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