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    Give them a chance! Heartbreak after Heartbreak

    I am curious to know, what the Wrestling Universe's feelings are towards the lack of use of the mid card wrestlers, the ones who work really hard through the whole year, with less pay than the big league-rs, who then miss out on their PPV chance, to the likes of, and I'm sorry to say this, but that the likes of the Rock, Brock Lesnar, and now Undertaker. I seem to be forever getting my hopes boosted high up, then suffering heartbreak after heartbreak. Take the Rock for example, he came back, cut a few promos, wrestled at two wrestlemanias, a couple other PPV's then left. Brock Lesnar, wrestles 3 PPV's a year, the Undertaker, a Wrestlemania specialist, and as much as I love it, surely it is the last year for him now (hopefully with streak in tact). I think that this is a slap in the face to the likes of Justin Gabriel, Mason Ryan, Ezekiel Jackson, Wade Barrett, John Morrison, talents like them. I can use young Kofi Kingston as a good example. Remember Wrestlemania 29. Yea he wasn't in it in the end, there was no room for Kofi, even no room for the mid card titles. He is a great performer and he missed out on his Wrestlemania moment. All because of a few old guys, who albeit are still awesome, are blocking the path to glory for others. The WWE anaged their lower status wrestlers at Wrestlemania well by including MITB, but now that it's it's own PPV so not needed at Wrestlemania (that topic is for another time). So what are you're guys thoughts? Do you actually like getting slapped in the face by the legends who appear then disappear again when they got what the want, or would you rather see the likes of Justin Gabriel get a boost, or Wade Barrett pushed to the top? Because I know what I'd prefer.
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    Midcarders have to prove their worth by connecting with the crowd. That's basically how they get pushed unless creative has plans for them. It's a business first and rarely a charity. If you want to earn your spot, you have to show the world why you deserve it. That's basically why Daniel Bryan's getting the push that he's getting. He's been consistently over with the crowd since Wrestlemania 28 and is almost always the one the fans go crazy for.

    In fact, I like the fact that old legends are coming back and making it harder on the young talent by soaking up the spotlight they wished they could have. It makes them less complacent and willing to make an impact. Besides, like you say, they come and they go. The main roster has the luxury of getting over all year 'round. It's pretty much up to them and/or up to the crowd to see how far they'll go.

    EDIT: And besides, there are a good number of mainstay WWE talent getting chances. Daniel Bryan, The Shield, Curtis Axel, Bray Wyatt, Damien Sandow, Los Matadores and Ryback are relatively new talent getting opportunities to carve their niche.
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    I can agree with the mid-carders having to prove themselves for sure. But when the legends are coming in to the biggest stages and blocking their chances, they can't build the big fan base they need. I too love the legends who come back as they draw the biggest reactions from the crowd, but the point of this thread was saying how shattering it is for them to come back, barely ever wrestle then leave again, and how it is blocking the potential future stars. There needs to be a compromise I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Right View Post
    I can agree with the mid-carders having to prove themselves for sure. But when the legends are coming in to the biggest stages and blocking their chances, they can't build the big fan base they need. I too love the legends who come back as they draw the biggest reactions from the crowd, but the point of this thread was saying how shattering it is for them to come back, barely ever wrestle then leave again, and how it is blocking the potential future stars. There needs to be a compromise I believe.
    I disagree, the big stars coming back puts more eyes on the product thus more eyes on the talent on the product.
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    Yea, you are right in that regards, I was referring to like their own fans, ones that watch the product for them, but you do make a point with the legends drawing in more crowds, so in turn creating better chances. I guess I'm just annoyed from the legends not wrestling all the time as I would want them to be, and annoyed at the fact that some of my loved wrestlers are not in the spotlight!

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    The problem is most of the legends are only working with main event talent not the mid carders. I thought Y2J did a great job with Fandango.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K2Jelly View Post
    Midcarders have to prove their worth by connecting with the crowd. That's basically how they get pushed unless creative has plans for them. It's a business first and rarely a charity. If you want to earn your spot, you have to show the world why you deserve it. That's basically why Daniel Bryan's getting the push that he's getting. He's been consistently over with the crowd since Wrestlemania 28 and is almost always the one the fans go crazy for.

    In fact, I like the fact that old legends are coming back and making it harder on the young talent by soaking up the spotlight they wished they could have. It makes them less complacent and willing to make an impact. Besides, like you say, they come and they go. The main roster has the luxury of getting over all year 'round. It's pretty much up to them and/or up to the crowd to see how far they'll go.

    EDIT: And besides, there are a good number of mainstay WWE talent getting chances. Daniel Bryan, The Shield, Curtis Axel, Bray Wyatt, Damien Sandow, Los Matadores and Ryback are relatively new talent getting opportunities to carve their niche.

    The thing I don't agree with what your saying is how do they have to prove themselves? Why would the crowd get behind somebody that always loses? And two dude they always lose and stick around, I think that's more proof than just getting bumped up to the front of the line, Ryder busted his ass to move up got the crowd behind him and everything but that didn't do anything go him did it? He always loses but the crowd still cheers for him so where's his chance? Being taken by the people who come and go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Right View Post
    So what are you're guys thoughts? Do you actually like getting slapped in the face by the legends who appear then disappear again when they got what the want, or would you rather see the likes of Justin Gabriel get a boost, or Wade Barrett pushed to the top? Because I know what I'd prefer.
    I don't mind to see Legends on TV or on ppv, as long as they don't "steal" unused talents spots ! And yes, of course, I'm not happy to see talented superstars stuck backstage. But also the question is, if there were no Legends on TV or ppv, do you think we would see the unused talents instead ? If they're stuck backstage, it's because Vince does not have faith in them, so perhaps it would change nothing to have Legends or not...no ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by body slam View Post
    The problem is most of the legends are only working with main event talent not the mid carders. I thought Y2J did a great job with Fandango.
    you're spot on ma man ... Y2j takes pride in torch passing ziggler , fandango to name a few .. Jericho got the biggest torch passing wrestlings ever seen when he beat scsa and rock in 1 night a lot of wrestlers 2day find it hard to do the job but I really do think the roster is 2 big qaulity over qauntity

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    This is a good call bada. It's important to regard that those big-time wrestlers have earned their status. They've done the hard yards and, let's be honest, they sell tickets, but they can't expect to turn up three or four times a year and expect to retain their mana. #GiveKofiAChance

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