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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Ron Garvin View Post
    Actually, WWE became a HUGE success thanks to the over the top characters and proper marketing of said characters along with the acquiring of the top tier talent from all territories around America. Remember, the “WWE” might have gotten their name in the past decade, but the lineage is traced back MUCH farther than the limited timeframe in which you are referencing. The storylines for the likes of Sammartino, Backlund, Hogan, and Hart weren’t quality storylines in general. They, much like all storylines in wrestling, were hit or miss. It just so happens that after the success of Austin vs. McMahon and the hostile takeover of the NWO, the emphasis shifted to storyline based with less emphasis on the action in the ring. Now with said “larger than life” characters such as Undertaker, HBK, Austin, Rock, HHH, (etc) having moved on past the “wrestling” aspect of it, they are left with an audience who doesn’t have the depth of big names to lean upon during durations of injury or top stars walking away. Storylines might be the mass appeal to the likes of you, but that is your taste; you’d rather have the “entertainment” (better known to the general public as “Male Soap Opera”) aspect where as I am geared towards the “sports” (better known as athleticism) aspects of wrestling...




    Now let me ask you a question – How do you know I don’t follow those promotions? If you had been around and had conversations with me, you would understand that I follow ALL wrestling that I can. From Dragon Gate/Evolve to CZW to CMLL to local indies such as Anarchy Championship and River City wrestling... I enjoy it because I take the Japanese approach (from what I understand) to viewing the product in that this is a work of art or a massively staged exhibition of talent in front of me. What you are describing is that you would rather look at “wrestling” as just another television but they just lump in matches on the in-between so they are their own genre of television show; Like a comedy or variety hour so to speak. Trust me, I understand the dynamic of how the E operates (another fact you could learn from a conversation of two rather than assuming others don’t “get it” the way you TRULY “get it”) which is why I choose not to follow it as closely as other products. I am the demographic of WWE fan that would rather watch the matches on Youtube as to save space on my DVR for better quality programming; after all, if I FFwd through 2 hours of programming, why would I want to DVR it in the first place. As to the “focusing on entertainment only” comment you made, I pose this question: Why are YOU here? If you opinion or view of the E Universe is so dreary as to think they won’t bring in the things that appeal to you, why watch? Obviously from the intent of your OP, the E is failing to give you that “quality entertainment” you are seeking, rather than good matches, but you complain that they are over saturating your television with what you are seeking; entertainment.




    And I can see your point. From my previous comments, you can see that all fans have their separate likes and dislikes. I for one did not like seeing VKM blow up, I wasn’t a fan of a birth to a live hand, and I am not interested in seeing a supposed porn star have his penis chopped off... I am a fan of seeing an epic battle of two story telling wrestlers that gets my blood pumping and endorphins introduced at massive speed only to yell “Oh my God” at my TV followed by the feeling of “did that just happen” or “did he really just pull that off” going through my veins. You see, I am here for the moments when I am on the edge of my seat, sitting in disbelief at what is unfolding in front of me and the clinching of my fists as a superstar was inches away from being declared the winner... I am not here to sit and listen to someone accuse another person of infidelity, steal another person’s car, or fight for the honor of another person. I already know it’s scripted; I’d much rather hear of someone doing these things in real life, not because the script called for it. Does that answer your question?

    Sorry my english isnt soo good i had trouble following up all u said..all i can tell is that u love all forms of wrestling that i do understand now..but..gosh i think u wrote too much for my brain to keep up with xD umm sure i think that answers my question then.
    You didnt had to write soo much when i asked u why u were here, but ok maybe not just me but everyone else will notice u from now on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberToothTigerz View Post
    Sorry my english isnt soo good i had trouble following up all u said..all i can tell is that u love all forms of wrestling that i do understand now..but..gosh i think u wrote too much for my brain to keep up with xD umm sure i think that answers my question then.
    You didnt had to write soo much when i asked u why u were here, but ok maybe not just me but everyone else will notice u from now on here.
    That's the thing though; when you automatically lump someone into a category without any idea as to what they appreciate or where they stand on a topic, you open yourself up for a response. I'm sorry if my opinions are too long, but I am a person who enjoys open discussion without having to limit them to 140 characters or less; if I wanted that, I'd hop on twitter, not a wrestling forum.


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    I only watch RAW and NXT. Smackdown! has no purpose anymore. I figured they would have used more of their under-utilized talents when half of the talent went over to the RAW brand, but they just ended up booking the same talents that appear on RAW already. It's basically a RAW results show. It's like Smackdown! died after Eddie Guerrero did(rip).
    Hey.. I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Ron Garvin View Post
    That's the thing though; when you automatically lump someone into a category without any idea as to what they appreciate or where they stand on a topic, you open yourself up for a response. I'm sorry if my opinions are too long, but I am a person who enjoys open discussion without having to limit them to 140 characters or less; if I wanted that, I'd hop on twitter, not a wrestling forum.

    well that's where we break in you like long discussions i dont i simply see things my way even if its wrong to judge quickly, i tend to do that often and i oftenly throw questions like those, sorry if it upset u i forgot this forum was not just about wwe, its about wrestling in general, like i said heh..i really cant comprehend things way too ahead of time and i oftenly make mistakes i dont really think things through.
    anyways this is somewhat stupid isnt it? here we are discussing what we love about wrestling, u love the moves i prefer the storylines instead, it's all in personal tastes and no one is arguing here, i just wanted to see what people think of the avalanche of shows the wwe produces nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDevilsAdvocate View Post
    I only watch RAW and NXT. Smackdown! has no purpose anymore. I figured they would have used more of their under-utilized talents when half of the talent went over to the RAW brand, but they just ended up booking the same talents that appear on RAW already. It's basically a RAW results show. It's like Smackdown! died after Eddie Guerrero did(rip).
    Not all is bad, u got hornswoggle dancing with khali and the farting natalya..oh.wait no..that's bad too..

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberToothTigerz View Post
    Not all is bad, u got hornswoggle dancing with khali and the farting natalya..oh.wait no..that's bad too..
    When was the last time you watched?



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    The only shows i watch are RAW and Smackdown but i will start watching Main Event soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberToothTigerz View Post
    well that's where we break in you like long discussions i dont i simply see things my way even if its wrong to judge quickly, i tend to do that often and i oftenly throw questions like those, sorry if it upset u i forgot this forum was not just about wwe, its about wrestling in general, like i said heh..i really cant comprehend things way too ahead of time and i oftenly make mistakes i dont really think things through.
    anyways this is somewhat stupid isnt it? here we are discussing what we love about wrestling, u love the moves i prefer the storylines instead, it's all in personal tastes and no one is arguing here, i just wanted to see what people think of the avalanche of shows the wwe produces nowadays.

    I guess that poses another question - Why join a wrestling forum if the only thing you are seeking is to put your opinion out there without considering others criticism? Would it better suit you to just write a blog about your opinions so you can speak your mind and then simply ignore the comments section as to avoid any negative feedback or thoughts against the views you have? Those around know that the last thing I do is to seek a fight about wrestling (I have the comment section on the news page if I want to just troll people) but I also have my base as to where my views come from. I am not going to close my mind to another’s opinion on it because we all see things differently. And no worries as to me being offended by anything people in the IWC have or will say to me; being a TNA fan, I have heard much worse from dense people and have (or at least tried) done my best impression of Damien Sandow in trying to educate the ignorant masses... I am just a wrestling martyr so to speak.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ewantu2 View Post
    The only shows i watch are RAW and Smackdown but i will start watching Main Event soon.


    Main Event is definitely worth watching at least once. The Ziggler/Miz (Main Event #8) was by far the best they have produced so far, but the show (or at least the marquee match and build for the show) has a different feel too it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Ron Garvin View Post
    I guess that poses another question - Why join a wrestling forum if the only thing you are seeking is to put your opinion out there without considering others criticism? Would it better suit you to just write a blog about your opinions so you can speak your mind and then simply ignore the comments section as to avoid any negative feedback or thoughts against the views you have? Those around know that the last thing I do is to seek a fight about wrestling (I have the comment section on the news page if I want to just troll people) but I also have my base as to where my views come from. I am not going to close my mind to another’s opinion on it because we all see things differently. And no worries as to me being offended by anything people in the IWC have or will say to me; being a TNA fan, I have heard much worse from dense people and have (or at least tried) done my best impression of Damien Sandow in trying to educate the ignorant masses... I am just a wrestling martyr so to speak.
    why join a wrestling forum u ask if i aint seeking discussions? :\ well it's simple really..
    i like to voice my opinion and hear what others think of it ^_^ i'm not exactly up for only writting something and ignoring others no no no..
    i want responses, negative or positive i could care less, i just want to see people's opinions on the matter when they clash with mine, but that doesnt nessecarely means i will reply to them to discuss further the topic, that's where i stop and other forum members may not.

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