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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketTragic View Post
    I agree it was worse then AW's comment because AW said nothing wrong.

    Although this is the first time I can relate to Tensai as a character
    please elaborate haha
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    #temamodest are the nicest people aboit. get outa here team ego! its not that my spelling gets shit when ikm drunk, just that i canr be bothered correctin the many mistakes i make while typing !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Playboy Stevie V View Post
    Believe it or not I do have enough common sense to know the difference of an actor playing a role or blatant racism. It's a joke. I remember a while back someone giving Sheamus a potato on air. I've seen the same type of jokes on reruns of the George Lopez show which is pg.

    I guess some people just can't tell the difference between acting and real life. SMH.
    The problem isn't that it was in character or not, but that it was said at all.
    Lazy stereotype jokes are a problem in WWE, and it's the same thing as making fun for someone based on colour of skin, gender or sexuality.

    In character or not, these guys are speaking in front of kids and some adults, that might not appreciate the fact that it is a work, that these aren't things to say or believe.

    Tout and Twitter are being aimed and pushed onto their younger audience and this is why WWE have to be so careful with what they broadcast.
    Ignore whether you are ok with it, and think more if you want your kids being fed racist jokes by a TV show you thought was safe for them to watch.

    You can appreciate it's a work, but like you said, maybe not everyone else can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tchocky360 View Post
    The problem isn't that it was in character or not, but that it was said at all.
    Lazy stereotype jokes are a problem in WWE, and it's the same thing as making fun for someone based on colour of skin, gender or sexuality.

    In character or not, these guys are speaking in front of kids and some adults, that might not appreciate the fact that it is a work, that these aren't things to say or believe.

    Tout and Twitter are being aimed and pushed onto their you

    nger audience and this is why WWE have to be so careful with what they broadcast.
    Ignore whether you are ok with it, and think more if you want your kids being fed racist jokes by a TV show you thought was safe for them to watch.

    You can appreciate it's a work, but like you said, maybe not everyone else can.

    If you want a totally safe thing for kids to watch I would stick to letting them watch rated G shows, which WWE is not. Its pg by definition "parental guidance is advised"

    Instead of people using the "think of the children" excuse, maybe parents should take responsibility on the content which is acceptable to them that their kids should watch and stop blaming the programs or internet. Media shouldn't be raising kids, parents should be teaching them morals.

    I guess we just have a different take on sheltering youngsters. The world isnt perfect and i wouldn't have a problem with them seeing what Tensai said and have a discussion on the appropriateness of the content.
    Last edited by Playboy Stevie V; 08-01-2012 at 01:14 PM.



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    But calling Sheamus "The Great White" is PERFECTLY acceptable.

    And I know it wasn't in WWE but can you remember in TNA when The Pope called Matt Morgan a Honkey, and that wasn't considered a big deal.

    Everyone know its impossible for a 'racist comment' to be aimed at a white person.
    (technically what I just said is wrong as i said white instead of Caucasian, but it doesn't matter)


    Equal rights my arse.

    Anyway i could go on about this all day, but I'm going to stop before i get carried away, as double standards really piss me off.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Playboy Stevie V View Post
    If you want a totally safe thing for kids to watch I would stick to letting them watch rated G shows, which WWE is not. Its pg by definition "parental guidance is advised"

    Instead of people using the "think of the children" excuse, maybe parents should take responsibility on the content which is acceptable to them that their kids should watch and stop blaming the programs or internet. Media shouldn't be raising kids, parents should be teaching them morals.

    I guess we just have a different take on sheltering youngsters. The world isnt perfect and i wouldn't have a problem with them seeing what Tensai said and have a discussion on the appropriateness of the content.
    I feel as if this comment won the war. I agree. Yea it was a bit unsensitive what Tensai did but yes, it was funny. yes it was something that we would have seen on live TV back in 2006 and earlier. i understand it's a PG show but parents need to be parental and guide there children in the right way of understanding whats going on and telling them right from wrong. Youre right. Vince Mcmahon is not the father of the WWE's 5 million child viewers. I dont condone racism but comedic stereotyping is a stable in all entertainment. Whether your white black, chines, or arabic. Comedians do it, television shows do it. it's life. As long as no one is being insulted then it's typically ok. It's not like Lawler is saying hey look at the pale mick coming out. Or when Truth comes out Lawler says the rapping and dancing nigga man. I believe the way they handle the characters is appropriate. SOmetimes they could handle certain things better but for the most part they do a good job. A kid could go on Xbox Live and hear significantly more crude and hurtful things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Scrapper View Post
    As bad as that sounds I agree. I cringe ever time WWE plays those stupid fan touts. They look like a bunch of no life idiots who are sipping the WWE teet.

    Personally, fan interaction is always a nice thing. What makes them look like a no life idiot? Because they make a 20 second video on a subject in wrestling? Whats the difference between that and posting on this fourm? Come on, man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Playboy Stevie V View Post
    If you want a totally safe thing for kids to watch I would stick to letting them watch rated G shows, which WWE is not. Its pg by definition "parental guidance is advised"

    Instead of people using the "think of the children" excuse, maybe parents should take responsibility on the content which is acceptable to them that their kids should watch and stop blaming the programs or internet. Media shouldn't be raising kids, parents should be teaching them morals.

    I guess we just have a different take on sheltering youngsters. The world isnt perfect and i wouldn't have a problem with them seeing what Tensai said and have a discussion on the appropriateness of the content.
    It isn't a simple think of the children matter. I mentioned kids as one aspect since that's obviously where Tout and the WWE target mot of their audience.

    For me it's also a matter of respecting others.

    Sum Ting Wong and the Tensai joke aren't much better than saying towelhead and laughing about that, or chinny chong chong and squinting your eyes, and laughing at how clever that is either...

    It mostly comes down to do you want racist language in your wrestling product?

    I know I don't, so when I see it, I'll feel uncomfortable and I'll say, maybe that shouldn't be in there.

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    To be honest. Too many people get too butthurt over dumbstuff. It's not like he was saying, "I HATE THE DAMN JAPANESE PEOPLE AND THEIR CULTURE AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THEM. BURN THEM ALL!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Scrapper View Post
    I feel as if this comment won the war. I agree. Yea it was a bit unsensitive what Tensai did but yes, it was funny. yes it was something that we would have seen on live TV back in 2006 and earlier. i understand it's a PG show but parents need to be parental and guide there children in the right way of understanding whats going on and telling them right from wrong. Youre right. Vince Mcmahon is not the father of the WWE's 5 million child viewers. I dont condone racism but comedic stereotyping is a stable in all entertainment. Whether your white black, chines, or arabic. Comedians do it, television shows do it. it's life. As long as no one is being insulted then it's typically ok. It's not like Lawler is saying hey look at the pale mick coming out. Or when Truth comes out Lawler says the rapping and dancing nigga man. I believe the way they handle the characters is appropriate. SOmetimes they could handle certain things better but for the most part they do a good job. A kid could go on Xbox Live and hear significantly more crude and hurtful things.
    Not a war, a discussion. Two sides trying to understand each other better is how I'd had put it.

    Again to make this clear, I'm not saying kids should get their morality or be raised from WWE television. I'm pointing out that it's mostly aimed at them, because of this content is and should be adapted to suit them.

    You want to go see a racist comedian, as a grown up you can do do that.
    If you're a kid, your parents would probably prefer it not be in your programming.

    As for "A kid could go on Xbox Live and hear significantly more crude and hurtful things"

    A kid could also easily find porn if they searched on a laptop, does that mean WWE can stick in a bit of full frontal since kids have probably seen worse. Probably not.

    WWE are responsible for their content only. It doesn't matter what else a kid might have seen somewhere else.
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