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    Quote Originally Posted by Torphy View Post
    Oh no, it's nothing bad, it's something that applies to every fed really. I noticed that there were no clean finishes on Raw tonight, aside from the Ryback vs jobbers match.

    The questions I have are: In an Efed setting where ideally we would like everyone to be happy with a match outcome, or at least not upset. Is it better to write up 'controversial' endings to matches than clean endings? Do we as writers (Not me anymore but I used to do this) have a responsibility to our rosters to make sure that in a following weeks promo a character has an excuse/reason for losing that he/she can call upon so as not to get cornered by another character?

    When I was writing, I always struggled with how to end my matches. Because one way or another, someone was potentially going to be disappointed (hopefully not as it's just an efed) with losing. I always felt that adding controversy was the ideal way of solving this, as the losing party could always say 'Yeah I lost, but only because blah blah blah. I guess i'd just like to know other peoples opinions, whether they disagree with me and think that clean wins gives more validation to a result?

    So is it for the best that writers are diplomatic and sit on the fence for the sake of story lines? I think so, what do you think?
    Interesting. I didn't notice there being only one clean result on Raw. I think clean wins are something that should be saved for the right character and in the right situation. Like before a PPV, or coming off of one, clean wins are hard to come by. Last week at Backlash, Cena defeated Black. But on Raw, Cena lost dirtily. As we're pushing this as the no.2 feud on Raw, and Cena lost clean just after defeating Black clean, well that would have made Black not look capable of being in Raw's second top feud.

    Really, I think it all depends on the state of the character at the time - is he being pushed or lingering in the midcard? Is his opponent? The heel/face alignments (having a face lose clean is a lot harder to do than vice versa)

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    Oh and Torphs, I would make that into a poll. I'll be interested to see what the people outside the WWE Fed thinks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torphy View Post
    Oh no, it's nothing bad, it's something that applies to every fed really. I noticed that there were no clean finishes on Raw tonight, aside from the Ryback vs jobbers match.

    The questions I have are: In an Efed setting where ideally we would like everyone to be happy with a match outcome, or at least not upset. Is it better to write up 'controversial' endings to matches than clean endings? Do we as writers (Not me anymore but I used to do this) have a responsibility to our rosters to make sure that in a following weeks promo a character has an excuse/reason for losing that he/she can call upon so as not to get cornered by another character?

    When I was writing, I always struggled with how to end my matches. Because one way or another, someone was potentially going to be disappointed (hopefully not as it's just an efed) with losing. I always felt that adding controversy was the ideal way of solving this, as the losing party could always say 'Yeah I lost, but only because blah blah blah. I guess i'd just like to know other peoples opinions, whether they disagree with me and think that clean wins gives more validation to a result?

    So is it for the best that writers are diplomatic and sit on the fence for the sake of story lines? I think so, what do you think?
    Absolutely not.
    If someone has a problem with loosing, then tough luck I say. I write my matches, and more specifically the ending of matches to suit the storylines, not to satisfy a person.

    Like you said, it's just an e-fed, so nobody should have a problem with losing. If someone does have a problem with losing, then they know where the door is. But I'm not going to write a non-clean finish to a match because Mr X can't take a clean loss.

    Luckily, only very rarely have I had to deal with guys that can't take losses.

    I'll write a controversial ending if it's adding something to a character or if it serves the storyline, but to satisfy someone's ego? No way.
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    The controversial endings all add to the storylines this week guys.

    The only one that didn't was Black-Rhodes but we didn't want Rhodes to look weak but give Black the win.

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    Good points by everyone there, I think the main thing is finding the balance and in all honesty I can see that the endings on Raw are all in the interests of progressing stories! Like I said, i used to ponder at times whether I was being too soft and whether I should just give someone the clean win, can be tricky.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Torphy View Post
    Good points by everyone there, I think the main thing is finding the balance and in all honesty I can see that the endings on Raw are all in the interests of progressing stories! Like I said, i used to ponder at times whether I was being too soft and whether I should just give someone the clean win, can be tricky.
    Those small little words just put me in a mood to listen to a Reggae riddim.


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    Fantastic show. Love the opening promos, the Black-Rhodes promo and the controversial finish of the show. Good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.E. Zero View Post
    Fantastic show. Love the opening promos, the Black-Rhodes promo and the controversial finish of the show. Good job.
    I really liked that promo too, the whole show was really well done and written. Thumbs up guys!
     
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    Current WWE World Heavyweight Champion - Dean Ambrose

    1 x EWNCW Tag Team Champion - Malcolm Adonis w/ Kyojin

    Current No 1 Contender to the EWNCW Title - Arthur Lansdale

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    In all fairness, I write matches and endings come as a result of the storyline. Whether that require someone to lose clean or in a controversial ending, then so be it. RAW was written with the sole purpose of advancing storylines and characters. If I thought it would help the storyline to end a match cleanly, I would have. I believe most of the matches at Backlash ended cleanly
     

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    Excellent show guys, well done!



     

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