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    John Cena-Hypocrite?

    Off the heels of JC's "red-hot" pre-Wrestlemania promo about the Rock, I just thought the fact that he complains about the Rock becoming a movie "star" just seems a bit hypocritical. When the Rock left,he not only left the Wrestling business,but he also created a bridge between Hollywood and Sports Entertainment that was alot more legitimate than the Hogans, DDPs,Jesse Venturas and others before him. It was because of the Rock that Vince Mcmahon started putting his name in producer credits in films,and the eventual [horrendous] idea of WWE films studios came about. Even John Cena's foray into motion picture has roots in the Rock's success and when Vinnie Mac and Rocky had a falling out over "The Rock" name, John Cena became not only the WWE posterboy,but it's own attempt at the home grown action hero. IF Cena was a huge hit in "the Marine" and "12 Rounds" would he really have stayed around to be a sports entertainer? His matches have been sub-par for the most of his career, so why the hell wouldn't he want to be the next Rock in Hollywood? So Rocky left to be a movie star, but wasn't John Cena hoping to do the same? If things were different, wouldn't we be encouraged to "never give up", "hustle,loyalty and respect" and "rise above hate" via satellite by John "Hollywood" Cena?

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    I honestly don't think Cena would have left.Wrestling seems to be his life and he seems to love doing it.


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    john cenais a guy who had a neck surgery and the same day or the day after came to an sd taping just to say hey and hang around so when he says he loves the wwe i tend to beilive him more then the rock

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    You guys are missing the point, I'm not disagreeing that he loves the WWE and his job, but that's a result of who and what we know him as NOW. But if he had a chance to be a huge movie star in Hollywood, in legit movies back when his popularity earned him,at the very least, an opportunity to be a movie star, would he not have done the same things the Rock has done,including distancing himself from the WWE. It's no secret, the movie industry and Hollywood in general don't think highly of wrestlers,at all. If John Cena had to disappear from the WWE Universe for a couple of years to be a big time movie star, he'd do the same damn thing that he's criticizing the Rock for doing as well. AND Vinnie Mac would be tugging at his leash to do it,if for nothing else, to make the WWE,a true entertainment giant in Hollywood as well, not just direct to DVD bins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowOfMurders View Post
    Off the heels of JC's "red-hot" pre-Wrestlemania promo about the Rock, I just thought the fact that he complains about the Rock becoming a movie "star" just seems a bit hypocritical. When the Rock left,he not only left the Wrestling business,but he also created a bridge between Hollywood and Sports Entertainment that was alot more legitimate than the Hogans, DDPs,Jesse Venturas and others before him. It was because of the Rock that Vince Mcmahon started putting his name in producer credits in films,and the eventual [horrendous] idea of WWE films studios came about. Even John Cena's foray into motion picture has roots in the Rock's success and when Vinnie Mac and Rocky had a falling out over "The Rock" name, John Cena became not only the WWE posterboy,but it's own attempt at the home grown action hero. IF Cena was a huge hit in "the Marine" and "12 Rounds" would he really have stayed around to be a sports entertainer? His matches have been sub-par for the most of his career, so why the hell wouldn't he want to be the next Rock in Hollywood? So Rocky left to be a movie star, but wasn't John Cena hoping to do the same? If things were different, wouldn't we be encouraged to "never give up", "hustle,loyalty and respect" and "rise above hate" via satellite by John "Hollywood" Cena?
    Actually that is the other way the storyline could go in case of a heel turn, in that ti will be like when Jericho turned on HBK, HBK cheated and lied to people (in the storyline) faking an injury and Jericho supported him and everything until he snapped and turned on him and the fans who were still loving him.

    In all seriousness the comparison is not that simple, Cena has never said he wanted to be an Actor, he became one because WWE wanted him to and it will be good for him and the WWE as a company, but he never stated he really wanted to follow that path.

    The Rock on the other have saw Wrestling as a mean to an end, to be an actor in Hollywood and it worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrowOfMurders View Post
    You guys are missing the point, I'm not disagreeing that he loves the WWE and his job, but that's a result of who and what we know him as NOW. But if he had a chance to be a huge movie star in Hollywood, in legit movies back when his popularity earned him,at the very least, an opportunity to be a movie star, would he not have done the same things the Rock has done,including distancing himself from the WWE. It's no secret, the movie industry and Hollywood in general don't think highly of wrestlers,at all. If John Cena had to disappear from the WWE Universe for a couple of years to be a big time movie star, he'd do the same damn thing that he's criticizing the Rock for doing as well. AND Vinnie Mac would be tugging at his leash to do it,if for nothing else, to make the WWE,a true entertainment giant in Hollywood as well, not just direct to DVD bins.
    I couldn't agree more. Before The Rock started filming movies (and decent ones at that), he was just as dedicated as Cena, with better Mic Skills, Just as profitable and Way more skilled in ring.

    Cena will follow suit soon enough.


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    Both men love the company. The Rock made a successful go of a movie career and I commend him on that. I commend him on getting out before being seriously injured or broken to the point of some former talent. I commend him on continually giving back to the company that made him rather than hitting the gas and never looking back.

    I have absolutely no doubt that if Cena had gotten a real break into Hollywood, he would be doing the same thing Rockie did and is doing right now. But despite trying and being pushed for such a break, he isn't getting it for one reason or another. So he's here and continues to do for the business what he can from the inside and his legacy will be something like that of today's Undertaker 10 years down the road.

    They both love the company and the business and would be nobodies without it... They both give back what they can and that's awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maar13 View Post
    Actually that is the other way the storyline could go in case of a heel turn, in that ti will be like when Jericho turned on HBK, HBK cheated and lied to people (in the storyline) faking an injury and Jericho supported him and everything until he snapped and turned on him and the fans who were still loving him.In all seriousness the comparison is not that simple, Cena has never said he wanted to be an Actor, he became one because WWE wanted him to and it will be good for him and the WWE as a company, but he never stated he really wanted to follow that path.The Rock on the other have saw Wrestling as a mean to an end, to be an actor in Hollywood and it worked.
    No offense,but that has to be the most ignorant thing I've ever read being said about the Rock. He's third Generation,his father was a wrestler, his grandfather was a wrestler,his uncles were wrestlers,alot of his extended family are all wrestlers. This isn't Kevin Nash,or Batista,who literally only came into the business to make a buck. The Rock has one of the most engrained and most personal associations with pro wrestling spanning generations, and his daddy wasn't some indy failure like John Cena's pops. Also,can you find one SINGLE clip or interview of the Rock saying "Oh,I always wanted to be an actor,f*ck wrestling, I'm just doing this to pass the time til a Hollywood offer comes my way." Before the Rock, no wrestler was even considered good enough to actually be the lead in a movie that wasn't a campy satirical b-grade piece of shit like the stuff done by Hogan and Piper. The Rock didn't set out to "be an actor" either,but,at the height of his popularity, he made a damn convincing argument that he could be a great one. And sure,his movies did "OKAY",and he had to succumb to Disney hell for a bit,but he still knows how to play a convincing,charismatic badass lead. Something Cena couldn't do if his life depended on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by DUBS View Post
    Agreed.

    Just because Cena has done some movies on the side does not mean he sees acting as his passion. The Rock saw his next career as being an actor. Doesn't mean Cena would follow suit. Not everyone has the same career interests.
    This in a nut shell really.

    Rock wanted to go to Hollywood, he did and he has done well for himself. John probably will do the odd WWE studio movie but not Hollywood movies and will continue wrestling until he retires.

    They're walking 2 different paths that will just combine at WM 28. Rock will probably go back to Hollywood again and appearances every now and again whilst John will try to give us as much entertainment as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2Jandy View Post
    I honestly don't think Cena would have left.Wrestling seems to be his life and he seems to love doing it.
    Here's the thing people don't understand about Cena. He would have never become a professional wrestler if he would have succeeded at bodybuilding. Wrestling wasn't his first choice. If his so called movie career would have gone better, i have a feeling that he would have made the same move the Rock did, or would have eventually. If his album would have sold better, and he would have made more money off of it than what he makes in his wwe contract, then he would have become a full time rapper. mark my words
    "What was dat honey? Oh dat was da dragon screw leg whip!" -Dusty Rhodes on commentary during Rey Mysterio jr. vs. Eddie Guerrero at Halloween Havoc '96

    After years of shrugging it off, Cena's beginning to get annoyed by his haters.

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