View RSS Feed

Polly-Pablo

PG: There's a limit to how far we 'tone down'

Rate this Entry
This is my first blog entry, so I'd like to start off my saying hello and I hope that this isn't too bad of a read for you all (or those of you who wish to read this).

I've been a fan of Wrestling ever since I can remember. Along with my brother and sister, I've been an avid watcher right back to when we were old enough to hold a remote.

As a slightly less spritely 29 year old, I can proudly say that I can remember some of the best (and arguably better) eras in wrestling.

I could ponder on the 'good old days' all day long, but that's for another time.

The issue I wish to address right now is that of the new PG era that we are seeing in WWE right now (I will take the time to mention that I do not, and never have, watched TNA, therefore I do not feel that I am qualified to address TNA's position).

I understand the reasoning why VKM has introduced the PG era. I get that 'going PG' draws interest from the younger generations, those with parents that will relent to demands for merchandise and ring side seats.
I fully comprehend that this means extra dollars into the metaphorical pockets of the WWE. I know that PG is, more than likely, here to stay, regardless of the feelings of us 'older wrestling fans'. When all is said and done, we have to accept it and try to find enjoyment through the technical skills of the athletes - or if you like, 'superstars'.

My major bug-bear when it comes to PG is this:

Whilst 99% of the WWE programming now is PG friendly to the point that it has all but diluted the origins of WWE (or WCW, WWF as we remember it), every now and then there will be a point where WWE creative relax the reigns ever so slightly and we get flashes of the old WWE.

Case in point;

Both The Rock and Cena's promo's over the last two RAW shows.

Yes, the word 'ass' was used sparingly and yes John Cena did use the words 'blow me' in response to The Rock.

What grates on me is this. We, the long term fans, live for these moments at present. We literally light up whenever we get a flash back to the 'old days' and the way, in my personal opinion, we want the WWE to be.

So when I see comments posted on FB etc from the parents of younger fans berating WWE for thsese moments, I get a tad irate.

What I fail to comprehend is this: Wrestling is, and has always been, about (if you take it right back to the bare bones) someone wanting to beat the **** out of someone else. That, essentially, is what wrestling is.

So, let me get this straight. It is absolutely fine for you to let your children watch two grown men beat the living daylights out of each other to solve their differences, BUT, in no way are they to

a) see blood (because no blood is ever spilt during a fight right?)
b) hear obsenities ("gosh, darn that hurt" is usually the mantra when fighting)
c) hear insults that may contain references to certain parts of the anatomy

Letting children watch a sport where the sole purpose is to beat your opponent so badly that he/she can barely move is child friendly and not at all a promotion of violence, nor a bad example for your child, right?

So, when they get into a fight one day, or get sent home from school for fighting, you won't in any way see the connection between letting them watch WWE and their behaviour.
However, should they be heard to swear/curse at someone and, because The Rock, John Cena etc have said the word 'ass' , that will be the WWE's fault will it?

At some point we have to draw the line. Whilst I have an understanding on PG when it relates to marketing and money making, I fail to see why we must tone down, what has always essentially been an adult entertainment show.

If your child is not prepared for the things that he/she may see or hear when watching or attending these shows, don't let them watch and certainly don't take them to see one live.

If it's a child friendly show that you want your child to see, please take them to a PG movie, let them watch cartoons or introduce them to Disney.

Yes PG may be here to stay, but there comes a point when enough is enough. WWE was not made to be a childrens show - it's your call as a parent to understand that and make the decision on whether your child is old enough to handle that.

My apologies if I waffled on a bit, my sincerest apologies if I have offended anyone, but this is my view and my personal opinion. Please feel free to let me know your opinions, all are welcome.

Submit "PG: There's a limit to how far we 'tone down'" to Digg Submit "PG: There's a limit to how far we 'tone down'" to del.icio.us Submit "PG: There's a limit to how far we 'tone down'" to StumbleUpon Submit "PG: There's a limit to how far we 'tone down'" to Google

Updated 02-23-2011 at 11:56 AM by Frank

Categories
Uncategorized

Comments

Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
  1. candlelarbra5212's Avatar
    [QUOTE=The Sheep;bt2953]k, 1st we all love the attidude era. ahh the golden years... but times have changed. Your forgetting the biggest reason wwe is pg is... sponsors!!! advertising! money money money! nobody wants to sponsor a show that shows kane raping a dead corpse or may young giving birth to a baby mark henry hand.

    wwe again guys, wwe are not stupid. they know what their fans want. u know they called sting after the 1st 2-21-11 promo, u know they know fans like attitude era better. and honestly i think they did those cena rock promos and punks blood to test the waters. see how much they can get away with, or if ratings would pick up if they got edgier (which they did).

    but i also think the parents have a right to be pissed because they were led to belive the wwe was safe to watch for kids. sure the over all idea is violent, but so is bugs bunny and batman. its good vs evil, its cartoony. but to alot of ppl swearing is what crosses the line. simple fix is to rate their programs per episode instead of being full pg, make it tv14 if they plan to have blood or cursing. there could be a good balance somewhere. looked like cena enjoyed being edgy for once i thought[/QUOTE]

    Agreed WWEs PG era is only for the dollars, mainly from sponsers, but I still think WWE is shooting themselves in the foot. If WWE had a good product like they did in the AE then not only would they make more off TV ratings and PPV but I think sponsers would come. If WWE had a bigger audience then sponsers would pay more. To get a bigger audience they have to have edgier TV (mabye not the same as the AE but more then now).
    I think there is a market for sponsers in TV14 wrestling e.g. video games, movies and TV that has the same or higher rating. Again I'm not a market expert but surely this is common sense. I am happy to be corrected if you find proof to the contrary.
    Doing the shows rating week by week is silly. WWE is episodic and telling a kid they can't watch this week because John Cena swears is dumb, and not only for business reasons.

    Also the 2-21-11 thing was never sting... ever.
    I think your right about the balence. WWE can have blood and swearing. Just no stupid rape storylines or anything that can get a life sentence prison which WWE seems to do regularly.

    When we say kids it only really applies to young children (<6-9) any child 10 or older will most likley have seen blood in a game or movie and heard ass and swearing somwhere. The kids (<6-10) are a tiny market when compared to other demographics and they have alot less spending power the tweens, teens and adults.
  2. LCWfan's Avatar
    I think it is foolish to say that wrestling, or sports entertainment, is not for children. That's like saying hockey isn't suitable for children b/c of the fights that take place between players, sorry for the hockey reference, but I'm Canadian, lol. I'm a teacher and a parent myself, so I know about teaching children right from wrong, and make believe from reality, so don't give me the argument that it is my responsibility to teach these things to my child because I already know that. The point is, to say that wrestling is not, and never has been intended for my child is ignorant.
    Although I do not agree with the extent that this current pg era has gone, we have to remember the days of Hulkamania, etc. If that's not marketing to children, what is? It got me hooked as a young girl! I remember watching hulk, bulldog, hitman, etc. with my grandfather and being in awe and bouncing up and down at the tv set. Although I enjoyed the attitude era, I just never felt comfortable watching a naked Sable with my grandfather sitting their in his easychair. This was not what I grew up on.
    I know a lot of people will disagree and that's ok, it's your right, but b/c you long for a previous era and style of wrestling, don't spur untruths and take the stand, "My rasslin is not for kids", it just shows ignorance for the history and lineage of the sport, and I'm talking pre-hulkamaina days here people. There must be a balance where mature fans can be satisifed, as well as the younger generations who are currently embracing the "sport", but I guess that has yet to be achieved. Thanks
  3. candlelarbra5212's Avatar
    [QUOTE=LCWfan;bt2968]I think it is foolish to say that wrestling, or sports entertainment, is not for children. That's like saying hockey isn't suitable for children b/c of the fights that take place between players, sorry for the hockey reference, but I'm Canadian, lol. I'm a teacher and a parent myself, so I know about teaching children right from wrong, and make believe from reality, so don't give me the argument that it is my responsibility to teach these things to my child because I already know that. The point is, to say that wrestling is not, and never has been intended for my child is ignorant.
    Although I do not agree with the extent that this current pg era has gone, we have to remember the days of Hulkamania, etc. If that's not marketing to children, what is? It got me hooked as a young girl! I remember watching hulk, bulldog, hitman, etc. with my grandfather and being in awe and bouncing up and down at the tv set. Although I enjoyed the attitude era, I just never felt comfortable watching a naked Sable with my grandfather sitting their in his easychair. This was not what I grew up on.
    I know a lot of people will disagree and that's ok, it's your right, but b/c you long for a previous era and style of wrestling, don't spur untruths and take the stand, "My rasslin is not for kids", it just shows ignorance for the history and lineage of the sport, and I'm talking pre-hulkamaina days here people. There must be a balance where mature fans can be satisifed, as well as the younger generations who are currently embracing the "sport", but I guess that has yet to be achieved. Thanks :)[/QUOTE]

    Hey I don't know if you were refering to my comment but when I said wrestling isn't kid friendly I meant young children 6-10. Wrestling is catered towards a younger audience but not small children.
    BTW the reason the old days of the golden era in the 80s are not relevent is because as a form of entertainment wrestling has moved on. The AE and even PG era are more advanced, as they targeted an older audience (12 and above). By going back to the golden era ways we are going backwards, wrestlign has evolved. Wrestling fans don't need to have one of their favourite entertainment forms didtated by children(6-10) when it is unessicary.

    Think about the 80s, I mean really think. You had guys like Hogan Savage Ultimate Warrior etc. Yes it may have been good at the time but it can't stand up to the AE or even the PG era. You had roided up guys with no mic skills and even less ring skills, granted there were a few good wrestlers but they were kept down by the superhuman monsters.

    In terms of my parents comment granted I was a little hot under the coler, but, I get annoyed when TV stops being a simple tool for entertainment and enjoyment and starts being a tool for parents to get rid of their kids for all weedend and afternoon. Granted some partents have it tough, but when you leave a child with a TV and don't teach them or spend anytime with them yourself you can't complain if a child act like his favourite TV show characters. I think children can spend some, or even a lot of time with TV as long as they know its not real and parents tell them the difference between TV and real life. If parents are unhappy with the show don't let them watch until they are older. The show souldn't have to fit the children.
  4. The D's Avatar
    You say your a wrestling fan but you said "I do not, and never have, watched TNA"...your not really a wrestling fan then are you, your a WWE fan, its like saying your a sports fan but you only watch basketball....
  5. Polly-Pablo's Avatar
    Thank you to everyone who has commented, I appreciate people's views and opinions. It's interesting to see the mixed reaction that the PG era receives :-)


    Wrestling has always been, and will always be a PG product, save for a good ten year run that is in all of our recent memory stemming from the late 90's and most of the 2000's. I'm shocked to hear that a long time wrestling fan either didn't know this, or choose to omit this from his argument.

    xStraightxEdgexSaviorx - Whether wrestling has always been a PG product is a matter of opinion and not a fact - show me the proof that I am wrong and we'll discuss it.

    As for not knowing this/omitting it from my argument - I wasn't arguing, I was sharing an opinion in a blog and I welcomed opinions and comments.
    I am neither ignorant, nor did I omit anything that I wanted to say.

    Just on a seperate point though - I was always taught to assume something, was to make an Ass out of U and Me (AssUMe) - therefore, your assumption that I am male (due to my interest in wrestling??) is short sighted on your part.
  6. Polly-Pablo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The D
    You say your a wrestling fan but you said "I do not, and never have, watched TNA"...your not really a wrestling fan then are you, your a WWE fan, its like saying your a sports fan but you only watch basketball....
    I did say that and I, wholeheartedly, stand by that statement. TNA is one company in a wide array of 'wrestling' practices....just because I do not watch TNA , does not make my status as a wrestling fan null and void.
    TNA is the only wrestling 'show' that I do not watch, this is a personal choice and does not make me ignorant to wrestling in any way.

    I am a sports fan - it doesn't mean I have to like every sport! So by that analogy, you're implying that all sports fans are therefore fans of every single sport that is played worldwide?
    That seems a very poor argument to me.

    I'll assume that you are a TNA 'fan' of sorts and somehow you took offence to my avoidance of it?
    Also, on a final point here - my blog was in reference to the PG era in WWE, therefore there was really no need for me to speak of it in reference to TNA as it didn't apply to them.

    Please do not place aspersions on my status as a wrestling fan unless you have a full picture - and, more importantly, a valid argument/analogy, to back it up.
  7. Polly-Pablo's Avatar
    [QUOTE=therealdegenerate;bt2894]There are several points I want to make so bare with me.

    1) Those fb parents have the right to be upset. WWE says there are a PG product and they do particular things that aren't pg, such as vulgarity from the rock. Like it or not, any tv show needs to uphold what they say they are.
    age of wrestling, was family friendly. Thats the business, not adult entertainment.
    QUOTE]

    Definition of PG: A rating meaning “parental guidance suggested”: it indicates that parents may find some content unsuitable for children under seventeen.

    According to the legal definition of PG, nothing that The Rock or John Cena have said over the last couple of RAW shows has even come close to stepping outside the parameters of PG.
    I stand by what I said.
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123

© 2011 eWrestlingNews, All Rights Reserved.