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Coffee Talk: Will Punk vs Taker Deliver?

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Hey Wrestling Fans. Savior here with another edition of Coffee Talk. However, instead of multiple topics to touch on, I'm going back to the roots of Coffee Talk's inception and sticking to one topic here. That topic is, of course, the CM Punk vs Undertaker match at Wrestlemania. Many people were loving the fact that this match was going to happen, and at first, I was too. Then I witnessed the last two weeks of Raw with the match build up and my opinion of it has changed dramatically.

So grab your cup of joe, espresso, latte, whatever your poison is and let's enjoy some Coffee Talk.

I wanted last year to be Undertaker's last Wrestlemania. And that's huge considering Undertaker has always been my all time favorite. 20-0 is a great way to just stop doing Wrestlemania matches. I don't see a need to go for 21-0, 22-0, etc. Are they really expecting a potentially 25-0 record? To me, anything that's not a 20-0 or 25-0 record is pretty underwhelming. Once you reach that 20-0 mark, that number needs to be even of sorts. 25-0, 30-0, etc. So, to me, this Undertaker match doesn't make a whole lot of sense to begin with.

But rather than throw numbers out there and all the "what looks better" stuff, I'm going to get into the meat of this whole thing. For the last four years, Undertaker was involved in "highlight of the night" type matches with HBK and HHH. The thing about those 4 matches is, even though we all knew Undertaker was going to win, there were moments where it really seemed like he actually might lose. This was especially true at WM 26. While HBK's career was on the line, and it was a surefire thing that he would lose and retire, there was a point where it looked like he had it won. He hit Sweet Chin Music, followed it up with a moonsault off the ropes to the outside through a table, threw Taker back into the ring and Superkicked him again. My job dropped because I thought Undertaker was actually going to lose after that. I couldn't believe he kicked out. Then two brutal matches the next two years with HHH. The types of matches that are memorable and always considered when thinking about the best match of the night.

Now we have CM Punk. I know everyone puts CM Punk on as high a pedestal as it gets. I like CM Punk but I do not put him quite so high. The fact is, and despite this comment is probably going to send the hounds on me as far as those who love CM Punk, he is no HHH and no HBK. He's had a very nice run as champ and did a fantastic job at being one of if not THE top heel in the business, he's just not in their league. He's the brightest star, in a sky full of dim stars. I'm not calling him overrated like others have done. I'm simply stating that the previous four Undertaker WM matches were absolute showcase matches, this is more of, just a match.

The build up isn't really there. Of course, those Punk lovers who love everything he does will say, "Oh, this feud is awesome". But look at it realistically for a second. Look at it with an opened mind. Undertaker has so far, not said a single word. He's shown up and posed. And WWE did some cool camera work to show the WM sign above the ring to close out the show. Punk brought up the death of Paul Bearer, (tasteless on WWE's part in my opinion, regardless of who's approval they got.) He stole the urn and that's the premise in which we're building this match on. To me, that's very underwhelming.

With the level Punk is on, and the underwhelming build to the match, and in the wake of Paul Bearer's death, I don't see how Punk poses even the slightest threat in this match. It leaves ZERO drama. And this isn't the same type of knowing that Undertaker will win, as it's been the past 4 years. This is a match that Punk will probably need to carry and while I like him as a performer, I don't think he can carry this match in a manner that will leave us in awe. And honestly, that's what Undertaker WM matches need to be. They need to leave a lasting impression. Punk lost this past Raw to Kane after a simple chokeslam. So how realistic is it going to be if Punk kicks out of an Undertaker tombstone? In fact, if that does happen, even once, it will ruin the match completely for me. If he kicks out of a chokeslam, fine. If he kicks out of a Last Ride. Cool. If he escapes Hell's Gate by getting to the ropes. Good for him. But if he kicks out of a Tombstone, in my opinion, that would be too much of a stretch to be considered believable. It's already a stretch to see him kick out of a Last Ride but since that's not Taker's absolute finisher anymore, I'd be okay with that. Over the last few months, I've seen anyone and everyone kick out of the GTS. And of course, Undertaker is not tapping to the Anaconda Vice. So what else does Punk have that could even threaten the streak in anyway?

My final issue, and this goes beyond all the rest of these statements I made, is this. This past week on Raw, I watched Punk attack Kane with the urn. And I watched an Undertaker struggle to even walk down to the ring. This is my biggest concern with this match taking place. Undertaker is broken down. And while he does leave it all out there for the fans to enjoy, wanting to put on the best performance, and being able to put on the best performance. are two totally different things. If he's limping to the ring, then we won't be seeing him hurdle the top rope on a suicide dive. We probably won't see him flying off the top rope with a clothesline like Kane does. And we probably will see Punk counter his way out of Old School so Taker doesn't have to balance the ropes and doing the leaping forearm smash. Underaker's move set that starts with Snake Eyes is probably going to come off very slow as well. Punk's move set, in turn, will probably be slower, and he'll use time to do taunts and things like that to draw heat so Undertaker won't have to do too much in the match.

To answer the question in the title of this blog...I think that this match WILL NOT deliver the way we all hope.

Please understand that this blog is not me hating on CM Punk. This is more about my dislike for the fact that this match is even happening. We have three weeks left before Wrestlemania and I'm truly hoping that in these three weeks, WWE will change my mind about this match. But as it stands now, and I can't believe I'm saying this, I'm looking at this match to actually be one of the lowlights of the night. Again, I'm truly hoping I'm proven wrong. But for what I've seen so far, just the nature in which Punk got the match was bland and lame. We knew Orton, Sheamus and Big Show weren't winning that Fatal Four Way. They could've have built it so much differently. And honestly, I think I might rather have seen Orton or Sheamus take on Undertaker this year, if Undertaker absolutely HAD to have a match.

A little bonus note here, Wrestlemania this year is set up to be very underwhelming as it is. So Underwhelming that Jack Swagger vs Alberto Del Rio is potentially going to be the best performed match of the night. If I were to book Wrestlemania this year, my card would go like this. Cena vs Rock II, CM Punk vs Brock Lesnar, Chris Jericho vs Dolph Ziggler, ADR vs Swagger, Sheamus vs Orton, Ryback vs Mark Henry, Big Show and two others vs Shield, Cesaro vs Someone, Team Hell No vs Some Tag Team. To me, that's good utilization of the bigger names on the roster which is what it should be. I can do without Undertaker at WM now and I can do without HHH at WM as well.

Ahhhhh, my cup is no empty, so I will be ending this week's Coffee Talk. I will say this. I know this edition won't be real popular. There are a lot of CM Punk fans that read my blogs and won't take kindly to my negative outlook on one of his matches. For that, I apologize. Please take this for what it is, my opinion. And not all hope is lost. We do still have three weeks left. I'll be watching and hoping for something to happen that will change my mind.

I hope you all enjoyed this edition of Coffee Talk. Enjoy the rest of your weekend.

Be Safe Everyone!!!

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Updated 03-16-2013 at 04:15 PM by DK Wrestling Savior

Thoughts and Opinions


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  1. Tall's Avatar
    Taker's match with Edge and Batista the two years before were also MOTY contenders. That's six MOTY contenders in a row at WrestleMania. I think too many IWC guys criticise Taker for his age and ability, but six MOTY contenders in a row deserves credit. Trust in Taker.
  2. cjstonecold's Avatar
    The only reason this match is happening is Punk is so over that he needed a great opponent at wrestlemania. I know some where talking of a triple threat for the WWE title, but how many of those do we need at the show of shows? As for Taker, he will be done when he wants to be. I'm sure he will be around for at least 2 more wrestlemania's. I'm sure Cena and Sheamus will get their chance with Cena being Taker's last opponent.
  3. akbar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by sunny1378
    You guys dont know what you are talking about. CM Punk with the help of the Shield and Hayman have undertaker on the verge until the stadium goes black....then we see a hologram of paul bearer walking to the ring....eeerie with urn in his hand...OR old viginettes of him urging his undertaker on...."get up my taker" ..." my undertaker will never rest in peace" and taker finally puts CM Punk, Shield to sleep.....the urn will play a special role because it will show taker the way and light up the entire arena...
    LOL Holy shit, that will be nuts!
  4. The Enlightened One's Avatar
    I believe that Taker v Punk will do better than most expect. I know I am a huge advocator of Punk's but he will be able to carry Taker. Punk brings the best out of John Cena, he will be able to bring the best of the Taker. Punk is a solid in ring performer and has not had a bad match in for a long time. Think of the last match Punk had and you thought to yourself that it was garbage or crap. Taker always brings it for WM and this year will be no different.

    Taker is in his last stages of his career and it is up to him and Vince when he decides to no longer perform at WM. I know that it is a forgone conclusion that Punk loses but Taker had selected KA to beat him and end the streak a long time ago. If anyone on the roster today could beat Taker and make it seem believeable, it would be Punk. Cena doing it would make everyone snap and probably riot and nobody else is even worthy to end it. I assume that 25-0 would make sense for Taker but really 20-1 is not a bad record. It would also allow Taker not to have to keep doing WM matches with his health deteriorating.
  5. wsm1996's Avatar
    I agree that they should have stopped with wm 27 with taker going 20-0 but taker is gunna be 22-0 in lesss than a month, he doesn't need to compete at consecutive wm and I think he will go to 25-0 possible at wm 34 or 35, lot of you won't agree with me but as long as vince is alive taker will finish with 25-0
  6. RobVelcoff's Avatar
    I'm really hoping Punk can carry Taker, because if he can this should be a very good match. I agree that Punk is no HHH or HBK, but he was the best option available. The best thing about the Undertaker's WM matches is that the fans have to have a slight belief that the Deadman might actually lose. Unfortunately for the match, there is a 0% chance of Punk defeating the Undertaker at WM. The WWE messed up big time when they took the title off Punk, because if this was a streak vs streak match (Punk would have had the belt for around 500 days if he still had it up to WM), there would have been at least a little doubt as to the outcome. Now, since it's a 100% certainty that the Undertaker will win, the match loses something. Although I'm still looking forward to it.
    Nice blog. Thanx. Rob
    Updated 03-19-2013 at 08:32 AM by RobVelcoff
  7. ewantu2's Avatar
    I don't even get why fans compare the older guys to the newer guys. CM Punk is no HBK or HHH, but he still has years of his career to get there. Yes i think it willbe a great match and the build so far has been good (could be better but we still have 3 RAWs left) but i 100% agree with, that they should of started the build the right after EC.
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