Completely agree with audioslave. Like when the Rock was announced to host WM a couple of years ago. I was watching every week and wasn't reading the sites, and I was completely shocked and excited when he came out.
The way i see it is it's not wwe for ignoring the smart marks that causes a problem it's the internet leaking shit out. I guarantee if u ignorant people didn't come on the Internet and just watched wrestling everything would be dandy and you'd be talking bout it with your friends instead of just coming on here. The only reason I'm on this site is to read the results of smackdown and tna and ppvs as I actually have a life.......
So do you want things to look like before the MSG incident???
I think some are missing the point with "not giving hardcore fans what they want". I'm talking about some sort of continuity with real life. I -can't- cheer or boo for a coward heel that won't wrestle if I know he's injured and can't wrestle, it's blatantly fake and it doesn't grab my attention. It's a performance, yes, but this affects a live crowd reacting to what's going on in the arena. It's the same thing when you compare two guys that know how to work in the ring versus two guys that can't work and are blatantly whiffing their punches and kicks, one's clearly faker than the other and you don't get the same crowd reaction.
I'm not talking about appealing to hardcore fans only, like bringing back legends if I can use that as an example. It somehow worked for Vader... I chalk it up to the crowd that night, but it hasn't worked as well for Lauper, Sid, Doink and DDP. It's clearly an issue of kids not knowing who these people are, and that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about some sort of continuity with reality for people that are into what goes on behind the scenes.
Hmm, interesting to read. I understand (correct me if I'm wrong) that you are talking in relations to storylines only. I can see your point with the Trip arm thing cuz it was bogus to me from the get go. There was nothing to him selling the broken arm that made it "believable" to me, but that's because I have seen this way too much. Now the injured wrestler being used in a story to further character development rather than just being written off is an interesting concept. It can be used to advance this character and also give them a little time to work on both mic skills and character advancement, as well as building up other stars (if that's what you're saying with the stable idea) by using them as drones for hire to do their bidding.
Honestly, this would be a great move for someone in the current situation as Bray because it would still get him to TV and also bring a few more to television. This however, doesn't work if he is hiring the likes of a JTG, Cesaro, etc. because why would they listen to a guy who has never been on TV? I do think the stable idea works with Bray being in a manager’s role until he is "forced" to compete after the injury heals, but that also takes into a count a LOT of story time to continue pushing Bray. I could see this working with a guy currently on roster that isn't "well known" but Bray's reach in this is only limited to FCW, unless they are willing to bring in more FCW talent with him (Rollins, Woods, etc.) That's just my opinion though, but interesting thought none the less.
Excellent response by thegreatone. And your right, ignoring smart fans does damage your product. AND WHAT IT ALSO DOES is EXPAND your demography, revenue stream, company growth, and ratings. That's simple buisness 101, and that's why the WWE continues to put out the product that they do. Because they understand this. My 8yr old son can't differenciate a good storyline from a bad one, but what he does know is that he likes wwe and not tna. Therefore every week he gives wwe ratings and not tna. And he has tons of wwe merchandise in his room. If TNA or any other promotion ever wants to see true growth, profits, and ratings, then they too will have to start ignoring the smart or hardcore fans also and start catering to the casual fan also.
I understand what you're saying and I agree with it. I'll put it like this; the best wrestling has to at least pretend to be real and when you have things like Kane coming out from under the ring trying to drag Zack Ryder to 'hell', it just does not work.
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