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  1. weems's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kajmere
    ​I dont mind old school wrestlers getting title reigns, but really? This not only makes for a guaranteed boring main event, but guarantees a boring main event rematch at the next ppv, as well. Not every guy needs a courtesy title reign on his way out. I mean, if HBK and Flair didn't need one, why the hell does Henry, who has rarely put on a decent match in his career. Nice blog, but I hate the idea.
    I may have a compromise....I don't want to see Mark Henry experiencing a title reign either. However, if Mark Henry really is about to retire, how about one angle and one PPV main event of Henry v Cena for the WWE title and it is also a career match. The IWC will all know this is Mark Henry's swansong. However, the kids (which are Cena's fan base) will buy into the angle of how much of a monster Henry is and how he could put an end to Cena's career. This lets Henry go out in a main event match and also helps put over Cena and the WWE title. Likewise, us in the IWC will only have to suffer through one Cena v Henry match and have the pleasure of knowing there will not be a rematch.
  2. Kajmere's Avatar
    ​I dont mind old school wrestlers getting title reigns, but really? This not only makes for a guaranteed boring main event, but guarantees a boring main event rematch at the next ppv, as well. Not every guy needs a courtesy title reign on his way out. I mean, if HBK and Flair didn't need one, why the hell does Henry, who has rarely put on a decent match in his career. Nice blog, but I hate the idea.
  3. Mr. Jay's Avatar
    We haven't forgotten that Hogan was the Cena of the 90s. If that were the case, we would be making T NA the #1 show. Also the divas are not an issue. The issue is creative. H
  4. Darkside Ron Garvin's Avatar
    While I agree with your stance, you have a few major holes in your theory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis
    Reason Number 1: It makes it more kid friendly.
    ...For one, members who have watched WWE their entire life are still going to be entertained by a product even if that product isn't vulgar. As a wrestling fan, I want to watch Daniel Bryan vs Cm Punk for the wwe title, as the pg era has given us...



    Yes, when these matches occur it will keep the older crowds invested, but the time between classics like this is where the older audience declines. The counter part is that during this times (depending on where your top face is at) is also where the younger crowd dwindles; It’s a catch-22, but there is no guarantee that said 10 year fan will remain a fan their entire life when the product shifts outside of what they find entertaining.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis
    This allows them to capitalize on two markets, one the parents of the children for buy rates in the now, and two buy rates in the future because the children will watch it with their children, setting up this scenario hopefully for them, again in the future.




    This is speculation; when you have a massive amount of viewers dropping off (which the WWE has had) then those second generation fans aren’t being exposed to the product to become new fans due to the fact that Daddy is turning the channel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis
    Reason Number 2: You can take the divas division more seriously.
    Today's divas have a much better chance to shine as more of an equal to their male counterparts instead of a sex symbol and borderline object that they seemed to be in the attitude era... they perpetuated the idea that she was a sexual object instead of a strong, powerful woman.


    How are they treated as equals? Is it because the 4-10 min matches are what RAW is featuring now, so their “time to shine” in a 2-5 min match is closer to the amount of time the men get?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis
    Obviously a diva like AJ lee is overly sexualized but I still am yet to see her in a damsel in distress role instead she is a diva who uses her sexuality, instead she uses her sexuality for power... This is good for the WWE for multiple reason, one it allows woman to watch this product for strong role model like figures and two it doesn't stop parents from allowing children to watch this product out of fear of exposing their child to a very sexual television show.



    How is a woman who uses her sexuality to gain power considered a “strong role model” when most would call her a whore? The majority of parents wouldn’t want their daughters acting this way, nor do I think they would want their talented daughter playing second fiddle to a less talented man the way Natty does, but that’s just my opinion.



    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis
    Reason number three: It gives us new dynamics to watch and pushes great superstars ahead.
    The difference at least in my eyes is that the attitude era is that Stone Cold Steve Austin was not a great role model for the fans...


    This is dependent upon your personal view. Some took Austin as a beer drinking redneck whereas others took him as what Dusty Rhodes was supposed to be against the 4 Horsemen; the regular guy who stands up to the corporate bullies. Austin (much like Punk) was the character you wanted to be like due to his ability to say what he wanted without the fear of repercussion, which CAN be a beneficial type of character.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis
    Also faces tend to be more face like making them idols for the children, and hated by the smarks. Also heels tend to be hated by the children but loved by the smarks.


    This is the one thing I love about the current era; we have fewer “tweeners” and a more cohesive idea for where a specific character stands. With this ideal, it makes for turns to be much more impactful on careers and helps to make storylines have more continuity.

    All in all, good blog Donny; it definitely got people talking, which is the goal after all.

  5. Dennis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by walldo 3:16
    Don't agree with any of it .. If daniel bryan was involved in the attitude era picture the matches with benoit angle and a young y2j .. Wood love to see bryan in tna .. Diva devision sucks so much ass at the minute and the whole creative team shood be fired .. The wwe should employ fans to be on the creative team GIVE US WHAT WE WANT
    There is so much to tackle here I don't even know where to start. Your point about Daniel Bryan has no internal link anywhere... Sure Daniel Bryan would have had great matches against the likes of young Jericho or Chris Benoit, but he still has great matches today and you never denied that. Sure, the divas division isn't great right now but that's not a direct clash with my argumentation. I never said this crop of divas is better than the last one, or puts on better matches. I said that these divas will be less sexualized and more known for their in ring action. WWE does employ fans, Edge was a fan, Cm punk was a fan, AJ lee was a fan... etc etc etc... Most involved in the product love this business and try to do what they think is most advantageous for this business since you don't agree with them don't smash their character, that's a fallacy at it's worst.
  6. walldo 3:16's Avatar
    Don't agree with any of it .. If daniel bryan was involved in the attitude era picture the matches with benoit angle and a young y2j .. Wood love to see bryan in tna .. Diva devision sucks so much ass at the minute and the whole creative team shood be fired .. The wwe should employ fans to be on the creative team GIVE US WHAT WE WANT
  7. Dennis's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Glamour Girl
    I don't agree with the first thing that comes to mind about Trish is puppies lol, it's not even on the first 5 things that come to my mind (maybe it's cause I'm a straight woman, but I don't remember the word puppies being used that much for Trish). The word puppies was used more for Debra (queen of the puppies), Terri, Torrie, Sable and a few others. Sex appeal wasn't the only tool the Divas of the Attitude Era had to draw the fans in, the women of that era were better wrestlers overall cause most of them weren't models and had a wrestling background before their debut in the company. Women like Ivory, Jacqueline, Victoria, Jazz, Molly Holly and others helped make the Attitude Era memorable and not just based on sex appeal, but on amazing wrestling skills. The women today just lack all the tools that drew me to wrestling to begin with since sex appeal wasn't that important to me.
    Trust me as a straight male I can tell you that term was used a ton on Trish Stratus. I think your main problem with this era isn't how they present the woman that are on tv per say, I think it's that this era tends not to show the woman on tv as often. This could be for several reasons, and likely to be fixed over time. Women like Chyna got a lot of air time via stables, Natalya the current rosters closest replica of Chyna has been pushed in several fashions just none of them has stuck. The WWE sadly is a business so even though a diva might show promise if she can't get over, it's not the fault of the company all the time. The company can not always push superstars who as wrestlers are great but for some reason lack the persona to get over. Natalya and many other divas have been pushed in several different ways, and WWE has tried to get divas that could match up against those divas in the past. Kharma for instance is obviously not a sex symbol either in my opinion were Beth Phoenix or Natalya. Just in curiosity so I can touch more on your issue with my initial claim, what drew you to woman's wrestling in the first place? I don't know your current age but could it be that there were strong woman on the tv, and so you idolized them because you were a young girl? Similar to the reason during that era I really idolized WWE superstars like Stone Cold and Jeff Hardy because they were male superstars who were presented as strong and reluctant to be held down even against the odds because I felt that I could relate to them... Just a side note, there were plenty of not very good wrestlers in the Attitude Era, even though my point doesn't need me to defend this I think it's worth saying. Sable, Dawn Marie, and Torrie Wilson should never make a top 25 best in ring female competitors list haha... Todays divas in my opinion tend not to be models first, or even if they are, tend to be of some wrestling quality. I mean, Layla was a model first but still is one of the better divas on the roster as far as wrestling ability goes.
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