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VanHooliganX
09-06-2011, 09:59 AM
Something has been bugging me about Raw lately. Its main events. These matches are pretty good to watch until 15 seconds to the end, because you know what will happen.

Cena has won again!!!

So can any of you answer these questions to the date? (Thought i'd break them up because then a few are easier to answer)

1. When was the last time Cena lost on Raw?
2. When was the last time Cena lost cleanly on Raw?
3. Excluding Summerslam and Money in the Bank, when was the last time Cena lost cleanly on a PPV?

If you can answer these, then you're probably Howard Finkel in disguise.

Rich Cranium
09-06-2011, 10:09 AM
Are these rhetorical questions because I just don't have an answer. :)

VanHooliganX
09-06-2011, 10:10 AM
Are these rhetorical questions because I just don't have an answer. :)

non-rhetorical pal but I can see what you mean. Quite hard to answer :S

HeelTurn
09-06-2011, 10:11 AM
I remember Punk beating him on Raw earlier this year, other than that, erm a tag match possibly?

As far as PPV goes he lost clean at WM24 lol

BlazersDozen
09-06-2011, 10:19 AM
Lol he didn't lose clean on MITB or SS either.

I'll google this & return with answers...hopefully & I'm expecting to be disgusted.

So far I have

Triple H at Night Of Champions & once on RAW before Bragging Rights.

HBK beat Cena on RAW in 2007 before Backlash

Batista beat Cena in 2008 at Summerslam

Sheamus 2009 at TLC (basically a Cena botch, but still a clean win for Sheamus)

Triple H & Randy Orton at WM

Randy Orton Hell In A Cell 2009

Some are also saying Orton on RAW in a Tables match in 2009

This is sad...

Y2Jryder
09-06-2011, 10:20 AM
A bash Cena thread again

Bodom
09-06-2011, 10:21 AM
Last clean PPV loss was TLC against Sheamus. If you accept a count-out as a clean loss, he lost to R-Truth clean in May

jordan1995
09-06-2011, 10:22 AM
A bash Cena thread again

my thoughts lol

Y2Jryder
09-06-2011, 10:25 AM
Last clean PPV loss was TLC against Sheamus. If you accept a count-out as a clean loss, he lost to R-Truth clean in May

I think a count-out doesn't really count as a 'clean' win

Bodom
09-06-2011, 10:27 AM
I think a count-out doesn't really count as a 'clean' win

Regardless, he still lost to Truth in May.

Y2Jryder
09-06-2011, 10:31 AM
Regardless, he still lost to Truth in May.
you're right, but not clean:p

TheDevilsAdvocate
09-06-2011, 10:33 AM
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In 2008:

As the Royal Rumble winner, he LOST at WM. - That was a Triple Threat...

Lost at Backlash - This was a fatal four way.

Lost to Triple H clean - Like I said... only Triple H can beat Cena.

Lost to JBL clean - Yeah... after going through a windsheild

Lost to Tista clean - Batista isn't on the roster, but fair enough.


^^^ IWC actually thought he was going to be de-pushed

In 2009:

Lost to Edge in the last match of the feud - Big Show interfered... Hardly "clean".

Lost to Orton at Summerslam - Yeah after about 4 restarts. Again, hardly "clean".

Lost to Orton at HitC clean - Orton tapped like a bitch when the ref was out. Like the commentators stretched - "Cena had it won."

Lost to Triple H clean - Again... only Triple H

Lost to Sheamus at TLC clean - No, he "accidently" fell through that table.

2010:

He lost to Wade Barret at Hell In A Cell.

2011:

He lost to CM Punk on MITB, SummerSlam, and on an episode of Raw.

He got beat by R-Truth on Raw.

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That is all I have gathered so far.
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BlazersDozen
09-06-2011, 10:33 AM
I posted the majority of his clean loses in my previous post on page 1 dating back to 2007 lol

VanHooliganX
09-06-2011, 10:34 AM
A bash Cena thread again

I am in no way bashing Cena. Cena is starting to be a decent wrestler in my eyes with the right opponent.

I am merely asking 3 questions :)

TheDevilsAdvocate
09-06-2011, 10:35 AM
I couldn't find anything before 2008. I know for sure that he lost his WWE SD! debut though.

TheDevilsAdvocate
09-06-2011, 10:36 AM
Lol he didn't lose clean on MITB or SS either.

I'll google this & return with answers...hopefully & I'm expecting to be disgusted.

So far I have

Triple H at Night Of Champions & once on RAW before Bragging Rights.

HBK beat Cena on RAW in 2007 before Backlash

Batista beat Cena in 2008 at Summerslam

Sheamus 2009 at TLC (basically a Cena botch, but still a clean win for Sheamus)

Triple H & Randy Orton at WM

Randy Orton Hell In A Cell 2009

Some are also saying Orton on RAW in a Tables match in 2009

This is sad...

The missing part! You complete me, Blazers.

VanHooliganX
09-06-2011, 10:39 AM
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In 2008:

As the Royal Rumble winner, he LOST at WM. - That was a Triple Threat...

Lost at Backlash - This was a fatal four way.

Lost to Triple H clean - Like I said... only Triple H can beat Cena.

Lost to JBL clean - Yeah... after going through a windsheild

Lost to Tista clean - Batista isn't on the roster, but fair enough.


^^^ IWC actually thought he was going to be de-pushed

In 2009:

Lost to Edge in the last match of the feud - Big Show interfered... Hardly "clean".

Lost to Orton at Summerslam - Yeah after about 4 restarts. Again, hardly "clean".

Lost to Orton at HitC clean - Orton tapped like a bitch when the ref was out. Like the commentators stretched - "Cena had it won."

Lost to Triple H clean - Again... only Triple H

Lost to Sheamus at TLC clean - No, he "accidently" fell through that table.

2010:

He lost to Wade Barret at Hell In A Cell.

2011:

He lost to CM Punk on MITB, SummerSlam, and on an episode of Raw.

He got beat by R-Truth on Raw.

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That is all I have gathered so far.
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He also lost to CM Punk at this past MITB ppv an the Summerslam ppv.

Ah. This helps. But thats 3 years worth of loses? He should be called Ultra-Cena

(There is your Cena bashing ladies :))

Daffy Duck's Finest
09-06-2011, 10:51 AM
In addition, when's the last time Cena submitted (if ever)?

BlazersDozen
09-06-2011, 10:51 AM
The missing part! You complete me, Blazers.

Lol you're welcome

& prior to 2008 I'm pretty sure he lost clean to also Big Show, JBL, Kurt Angle & MAYBE Brock Lesnar (memory is blurred thinking that far back.)

HeelTurn
09-06-2011, 10:53 AM
In addition, when's the last time Cena submitted (if ever)?

Never, hence never back down never quit lol its not just a slogan for t-shirts.

TheDevilsAdvocate
09-06-2011, 10:57 AM
Never, hence never back down never quit lol its not just a slogan for t-shirts.

I thought either Nexus or Miz made him quit. Then he had a brief run as Juan Cena then came back to Raw the following week taking members of Nexus out backstage. He did not even have a contract an that was also when CM Punk was on commentary I think. I could be wrong. My memory sucks sometimes.

HeelTurn
09-06-2011, 10:58 AM
I thought either Nexus or Miz made him quit. Then he had a brief run as Juan Cena then came back to Raw the following week taking members of Nexus out backstage. He did not even have a contract an that was also when CM Punk was on commentary I think. I could be wrong. My memory sucks sometimes.

Ah meant quit as in tap out or submit.

BlazersDozen
09-06-2011, 10:58 AM
In addition, when's the last time Cena submitted (if ever)?

Kurt Angle @ No Way Out 2004

VanHooliganX
09-06-2011, 10:58 AM
In addition, when's the last time Cena submitted (if ever)?

Chris Benoit, Jericho and Kurt Angle are the only people to make him tap :(

Y2Jryder
09-06-2011, 11:06 AM
Chris Benoit, Jericho and Kurt Angle are the only people to make him tap :(

But that was the time he wasn't SS3

VanHooliganX
09-06-2011, 11:08 AM
But that was the time he wasn't SS3

Very true :( I doubt Goku could destroy him

johnnydropkicks
09-06-2011, 11:13 AM
A bash Cena thread again

a bash thread post again

seriously maybe switch it up a bit? a little bit?

johnnydropkicks
09-06-2011, 11:14 AM
In addition, when's the last time Cena submitted (if ever)?


I can't remember seeing Cena tap ever

Bodom
09-06-2011, 11:16 AM
I can't remember seeing Cena tap ever

He's tapped a couple times. It was early on though, before he started main eventing.

Y2Jryder
09-06-2011, 11:16 AM
a bash thread post again

seriously maybe switch it up a bit? a little bit?
no chance in hell

Sully
09-06-2011, 11:17 AM
Jesus, all you people do on here is whine about John Cena. Whether you like it or not, he is the top guy in the WWE right now, his character is a super hero that would never do wrong on anyone else, and he never gives up (He even had a fucking t-shirt saying that one). If he's as good as WWE makes his character, he's not going to be shooting out loses left and right, good people don't lose, and the top guy in the E isn't going to lose often.

TheDevilsAdvocate
09-06-2011, 11:17 AM
no chance in hell

Vince Mcmahon.


Oh wait, this isn't the word association thread. My bad~

johnnydropkicks
09-06-2011, 11:20 AM
He's tapped a couple times. It was early on though, before he started main eventing.

he must tap for Daniel!

Y2Jryder
09-06-2011, 11:23 AM
Vince Mcmahon.


Oh wait, this isn't the word association thread. My bad~
this thread is already stupid so be my guest^^

Bodom
09-06-2011, 11:23 AM
Jesus, all you people do on here is whine about John Cena. Whether you like it or not, he is the top guy in the WWE right now, his character is a super hero that would never do wrong on anyone else, and he never gives up (He even had a fucking t-shirt saying that one). If he's as good as WWE makes his character, he's not going to be shooting out loses left and right, good people don't lose, and the top guy in the E isn't going to lose often.

I'm not bothered by him winning all the time. However, I am bothered by him destroying the credibility of everyone he steps in the ring with.

Bodom
09-06-2011, 11:24 AM
this thread is already stupid so be my guest^^

So don't press the "reply to thread" button. It's not difficult to do. Even a child can do it.

Y2Jryder
09-06-2011, 11:31 AM
So don't press the "reply to thread" button. It's not difficult to do. Even a child can do it.

But I like to reply:(

Rich Cranium
09-06-2011, 11:33 AM
I'm not bothered by him winning all the time. However, I am bothered by him destroying the credibility of everyone he steps in the ring with.

In the words of JR, "Shades of Hulk Hogan".

Bodom
09-06-2011, 11:36 AM
In the words of JR, "Shades of Hulk Hogan".

Except Hogan would actually build up his opponents.

KJ PUNK
09-06-2011, 11:44 AM
Except Hogan would actually build up his opponents.

Then he'd bury them back further than they wear.

Bodom
09-06-2011, 11:45 AM
Then he'd bury them back further than they wear.

But at least he took his opponents serious!

The_Awesome_One
09-06-2011, 11:49 AM
I'm not bothered by him winning all the time. However, I am bothered by him destroying the credibility of everyone he steps in the ring with.

you mean like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3TFWXY8xXI

I still throw up a little when I see this

Bodom
09-06-2011, 11:53 AM
you mean like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3TFWXY8xXI

I still throw up a little when I see this

John Cena could pin a local rookie in 42 seconds and get the same reaction from his fans as he did pinning Wade Barrett. There is absolutely no reason to have Cena pin Wade in 5 minutes.

KJ PUNK
09-06-2011, 11:58 AM
But at least he took his opponents serious!

:p



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di2DX_3KStQ

daverende5
09-06-2011, 12:09 PM
Cena taps out:
Link 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRMmMFZSK_w&NR=1
Link 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOPMCAaXhVw&feature=related
Link 3 (lol) :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSXPrslQJlQ&feature=related

Bodom
09-06-2011, 12:11 PM
:p



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di2DX_3KStQ

WCW Hogan doesn't count.

johnnydropkicks
09-06-2011, 12:13 PM
John Cena could pin a local rookie in 42 seconds and get the same reaction from his fans as he did pinning Wade Barrett. There is absolutely no reason to have Cena pin Wade in 5 minutes.

I'm sure wade would have loved 5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3TFWXY8xXI#t=2m21s

CobraNightviper
09-06-2011, 02:02 PM
I agree and neither does Hollywood Hogan unless you count when he returned to the wwe.
WCW Hogan doesn't count.

AOF666
09-06-2011, 03:53 PM
Cena lost to R-Truth a couple of weeks before MIIB PPV. The only answer I know.

Bralon23
09-06-2011, 03:54 PM
Very true :( I doubt Goku could destroy him

This is one of the best things I've ever read

KJ PUNK
09-06-2011, 04:51 PM
WCW Hogan doesn't count.

Awww come on! WCW Hogan was the best at burying people!

Reichwulf
09-06-2011, 04:54 PM
Lol he didn't lose clean on MITB or SS either.

I'll google this & return with answers...hopefully & I'm expecting to be disgusted.

So far I have

Triple H at Night Of Champions & once on RAW before Bragging Rights.

HBK beat Cena on RAW in 2007 before Backlash

Batista beat Cena in 2008 at Summerslam

Sheamus 2009 at TLC (basically a Cena botch, but still a clean win for Sheamus)

Triple H & Randy Orton at WM

Randy Orton Hell In A Cell 2009

Some are also saying Orton on RAW in a Tables match in 2009

This is sad...

wow. was it really that long ago :l

KingOrton
09-06-2011, 06:35 PM
Another Cena hate thread. -_-

The Brown One
09-06-2011, 07:09 PM
This disgusts me. It shows just how reliant they are on Cena. We get it, hes OVER! He doesn't need to win match after match though. I could swear he lost more matches on Raw than those listed above though.

wrestlingfan66513
09-06-2011, 07:30 PM
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In 2008:

As the Royal Rumble winner, he LOST at WM. - That was a Triple Threat...

Lost at Backlash - This was a fatal four way.

Lost to Triple H clean - Like I said... only Triple H can beat Cena.

Lost to JBL clean - Yeah... after going through a windsheild

Lost to Tista clean - Batista isn't on the roster, but fair enough.


^^^ IWC actually thought he was going to be de-pushed

In 2009:

Lost to Edge in the last match of the feud - Big Show interfered... Hardly "clean".

Lost to Orton at Summerslam - Yeah after about 4 restarts. Again, hardly "clean".

Lost to Orton at HitC clean - Orton tapped like a bitch when the ref was out. Like the commentators stretched - "Cena had it won."

Lost to Triple H clean - Again... only Triple H

Lost to Sheamus at TLC clean - No, he "accidently" fell through that table.

2010:

He lost to Wade Barret at Hell In A Cell.

2011:

He lost to CM Punk on MITB, SummerSlam, and on an episode of Raw.

He got beat by R-Truth on Raw.

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That is all I have gathered so far.
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There was interference in that match.

BlazersDozen
09-06-2011, 09:19 PM
This disgusts me. It shows just how reliant they are on Cena. We get it, hes OVER! He doesn't need to win match after match though. I could swear he lost more matches on Raw than those listed above though.

He has lost more but they involved run ins or dirty tactics. I only listed CLEAN loses. It seems like his only weakness is Randy Orton, Triple H & table matches.