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Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 10:20 PM
Can anyone think of any previous gimmick that either wouldnt work or is too politically incorrect for todays sports entertainment?

And any wrestler/superstar/diva that wouldnt of had a career if they started about this time?



EDIT:

Thought i should add storylines that wouldnt work as well.

Ruthless_Aggression
07-28-2011, 10:21 PM
Big Dick Johnson.

RomanFlare
07-28-2011, 10:23 PM
I imagine Eugene probably wouldn't go over well if it was debuted now, but you never know I guess.

helmsley
07-28-2011, 10:24 PM
sgt slaughter.- the irak gimmick, i dont think they would let him do it right now
ricky steamboat woudnt have a career right now, i think he will be unaprecciated, i think the same could happen with hacksaw jim duggan and mr perfect

tad locust
07-28-2011, 10:27 PM
I don't think Undertakers gimmick would work well if debuted in this era.Many people wouldn't take it seriously

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 10:29 PM
ricky steamboat woudnt have a career right now, i think he will be unaprecciated,t

100% disagree with this the guy is an amazing worker his match against Y2J a few years ago put some of the youth talent in WWE to shame. His character may not of been the best but this guy was amazing in the ring.


I imagine Eugene probably wouldn't go over well if it was debuted now, but you never know I guess.

I remember about 3 months into he started they had a WWE special here in the UK and it was all about how Eugene was going to be the next big thing to happen in sports entertainment. They were comparing him to The Rock saying no wrestler has been so over with the crowd and having so much potential.

helmsley
07-28-2011, 10:31 PM
[QUOTE=Eve's Arse No.1;195196]100% disagree with this the guy is an amazing worker his match against Y2J a few years ago put some of the youth talent in WWE to shame. His character may not of been the best but this guy was amazing in the ring.

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i agree with you, but how many wrestlers are amazing in the ring in the actual era and wwe wastes them??? i just dont think he has what wwe is looking for right now

SESAfro
07-28-2011, 10:39 PM
When Rico went all glittery wearing make-up and pink and stuff. Yeah, Orlando Jordan did it too but most people felt it wasn't the smartest thing. I personally found it hilarious. Also, Goldust, transgender/ genderlessness gets people going insane.

The Brown One
07-28-2011, 11:50 PM
Thankyou for making this thread-its the smartest one I've seen in a while. Many, many things from the Attitude Era and such wouldn't work in the current WWE landscape, so Attitude Era marks, get over it.

Things that wouldn't work right now:
* Masked Kane
* Stone Cold at his best
* The Rock at his best
* Triple H with the sledgehammer

zapphoman
07-28-2011, 11:54 PM
DX at its prime, Corporate Ministry(Sacrificing Stephanie anyone?), I don't think The Nation of Domination would work either.

CeezAlee80
07-28-2011, 11:57 PM
donk the clown and the repo-man.... i think Mr. perfect would do fine by the way.

Eve's Arse No.1
07-29-2011, 12:02 AM
donk the clown and the repo-man.... i think Mr. perfect would do fine by the way.

Ive been waiting for Doink the Clown. I dont think you could use him as a serious guy anymore but he could become an amazing jobber. Turn him heel and have him wind up the crowd be horrible to everyone in the front rows and do this normal annoying thing then have a face come out and just do a few signature moves on him. Maybe not for TV but to warm up a live audience at a house show could work.

Adrian Adonesis(if i spelt it correctly) wouldnt work not just because of his gimmick but because of his weight.

Also can anyone remember when Piper painted himself half black. Love to see them try something like that these days can you imagine the complaints and law suits

alexrules01
07-29-2011, 12:06 AM
Muhammad Hassan

radturtle
07-29-2011, 12:16 AM
Everything Val Venis did in the 90's.

Eve's Arse No.1
07-29-2011, 12:38 AM
Thankyou for making this thread-its the smartest one I've seen in a while. Many, many things from the Attitude Era and such wouldn't work in the current WWE landscape, so Attitude Era marks, get over it.

Things that wouldn't work right now:
* Masked Kane
* Stone Cold at his best
* The Rock at his best
* Triple H with the sledgehammer

Thanks

and yet the sledgehammer was more over then he was at the time. Shows how things have changed

North Vegas Benny
07-29-2011, 12:43 AM
Chuck Palumbo getting married to Billy Gunn

Jack Windham
07-29-2011, 12:49 AM
Abdullah the Butcher would never work in today's WWE.

bstepter
07-29-2011, 01:00 AM
I'm surprised no one has said Katie Vick yet. I'm pretty sure that wouldn't fly today

Jack Windham
07-29-2011, 01:02 AM
That lame storyline where Savage and Hogan fought the Dungeon of Doom wouldn't do too well today. In fact, it didn't do too well back then either.

alexrules01
07-29-2011, 01:07 AM
The Shockmaster!

Final_Silence
07-29-2011, 01:12 AM
Almost everything from the attitude era.
radturtle is right, Val Venis in the 90s. His finisher was a money shot...
The Godfather, I don't imagine hoes and pimps would go over well.
Stone Cold's character never would have been what it was.
Debra and the puppies!
Crash Holly, he was famous for the 24/7 hardcore title...

SESAfro
07-29-2011, 01:18 AM
Disciples of the Apocolypse wouldn't work either. They had a strong resemblance to the Hell's Angles, not a good look.

Dr. Death
07-29-2011, 06:55 AM
Most everything don't work in wrestling today. The whole world has gone soft and is afraid to upset people for the sake of entertainment or anything else. That's why wrestling has such stupid gimmics for their stars. There are too many people that are too easily offended now days.

Juvenile Junkie
07-29-2011, 07:04 AM
Pillman/Austin......

Juvenile Junkie
07-29-2011, 07:05 AM
hello,people the nWo!!!We would all know that they were indeed WCW employed talent

Y2J___Y2J
07-29-2011, 07:23 AM
I don't think the Undertaker gimmick would work if someone just started using it..

steveorton
07-29-2011, 07:28 AM
Doink the Clown, I hated this guy so much, I'm jus sayin...

King Scrapper
07-29-2011, 08:11 AM
Thankyou for making this thread-its the smartest one I've seen in a while. Many, many things from the Attitude Era and such wouldn't work in the current WWE landscape, so Attitude Era marks, get over it.

Things that wouldn't work right now:
* Masked Kane
* Stone Cold at his best
* The Rock at his best
* Triple H with the sledgehammer

This is a very good thread. However I dont agree with any of the things you dont think would work. Masked Kane would work. If Sin Cara could work now, masked Kane could. Stone Cold at his best is what WWE needs right now and is somewhat where Punk is aiming towards. The Rock is a character that would work at any time. Triple H with the sledgehammer? Why do you not think that would work? I thinking in terms of PG era, but I think the purpose of the thread is to find out what we think wouldnt work in terms of how fans respond.

steveorton
07-29-2011, 08:18 AM
Or an Eugene, I never liked him, always using poeople's finishers, I'm jus sayin...

AOF666
07-29-2011, 11:27 AM
I don't think Undertakers gimmick would work well if debuted in this era.Many people wouldn't take it seriously

Disagree, Undertaker new how to sell it, that is why he been around for 20+ years. Val Venus porn star gimmick or Goodfather pimping gimmick.

Ruthless_Aggression
07-29-2011, 11:28 AM
Mister Fuji.

The name alone.

Eve's Arse No.1
07-29-2011, 11:32 AM
Disagree, Undertaker new how to sell it, that is why he been around for 20+ years.

Thats because its an established gimmick from one of the most liked wrestlers of all time.

Mordecai - arguably the closet thing to the Undertaker gimmick in recent years lasted Two Months.

The Undertaker gimmick would be seen as abit of a joke if it was debuted in this era. Hell The Boogeyman gimmick would of been a serious character back in the early 90's.

jethro
07-29-2011, 11:39 AM
Blading,the available of youtube,fans find out the way wrestlers blading and breaking the fourth wall...it is not as awesome like back in the day anymore,maybe work hell in the cell or grudge match...there are crowd out there chant 'we want blood' though.

Juvenile Junkie
07-29-2011, 11:48 AM
those shock WWF to WCW and WCW to WWF departures/arrivals on Raw and Nitro that would leak over the internet nowadyas

Rich Cranium
07-29-2011, 11:50 AM
those shock WWF to WCW and WCW to WWF departures/arrivals on Raw and Nitro that would leak over the internet nowadyas

A perfect example is when TNA was trying to keep the arrival of Matt Hardy under wraps but everyone knew he was going to be at the PPV.

bcfccalum
07-29-2011, 01:11 PM
viscera and his worlds largest love machine gimmick

helmsley
07-29-2011, 01:16 PM
mae young flashing her goodies??? hell, i dont think that even worked back then, but they did it anyway LOL

FLWWEFan
07-29-2011, 01:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAWJbjrzUYA

Akeem and Slick...that strut Akeem used to do is priceless! LMAO.

Final_Silence
07-29-2011, 01:53 PM
The thread says wouldn't work in wrestling today, nothing about reaction of the crowd. Just saying. Masked Kane was built around fire... Stone Cold drank beer, put the fingers up and swore. The Rock could pass as we can see he does when he buries Cena. HHH with the sledge hammer didn't make him that big anyway. He was already huge on a good gimmick.

jordan1995
07-29-2011, 02:31 PM
Muhammad Hassan

whaaat ? stupidest thing ive heard all day ..

Juvenile Junkie
07-31-2011, 07:13 AM
Mohammed Hassan?? WTF.Im sure in the attitude era/monday night wars,WWF would not have dropped the character and fired the person altogether like they did with him.He could have been a big rasslin star



The biggest star since Mordecai!

xAzureSkye
07-31-2011, 10:41 AM
Candice's 2005/2006 gimmick

Tommy Thunder
07-31-2011, 10:45 AM
Chavo Guerrero's Kerwin White gimmick, and in particular his catchphrase:
"If it ain't white, it ain't right!!"

xAzureSkye
07-31-2011, 12:55 PM
Right to Censor lol

HCollins-TNA1
07-31-2011, 12:59 PM
Right to Censor lol

Hummmmm...... just saying...

HCollins-TNA1
07-31-2011, 01:02 PM
Don't know if it been said but the Cold War gimmick of the 60s, 70s and 80s.... Sure we still have our problems with Russia, but does it make much sense looking back 20 or 30 years ago with USA vs the old USSR????

HCollins-TNA1
07-31-2011, 01:04 PM
Mohammed Hassan?? WTF.Im sure in the attitude era/monday night wars,WWF would not have dropped the character and fired the person altogether like they did with him.He could have been a big rasslin star



The biggest star since Mordecai!

If done right Mohammed Hassan would been as big as Ivan Koloff, Iron Sheik and all foreigners/characters before him.... WWE was just scared to cross the line like they use to, for some odd reason???

Tommy Thunder
07-31-2011, 01:09 PM
If done right Mohammed Hassan would been as big as Ivan Koloff, Iron Sheik and all foreigners/characters before him.... WWE was just scared to cross the line like they use to, for some odd reason???

The reason they were scared to cross the line, was because he was around at the same time as the terrorist attacks on London. WWE received a lot of criticism for his character at the time, so they had to drop him really.
Shame though, as he could have been one of the biggest heels ever.

HCollins-TNA1
07-31-2011, 01:14 PM
The reason they were scared to cross the line, was because he was around at the same time as the terrorist attacks on London. WWE received a lot of criticism for his character at the time, so they had to drop him really.
Shame though, as he could have been one of the biggest heels ever.

It wouldn't have been the 1st time WWE did something Controversial.... Sure the Terriost attacks in London ha some to do with taking of the character as well Abdu Grave scandal I think as well.....
Him and Cena could had a historic feud???? But they choose not to risk such....

Juvenile Junkie
07-31-2011, 01:37 PM
sadly Mohammed Hassan gave up rasslin pretty much after that if i remember correctly

WWTNA Mark
07-31-2011, 01:51 PM
Thankyou for making this thread-its the smartest one I've seen in a while. Many, many things from the Attitude Era and such wouldn't work in the current WWE landscape, so Attitude Era marks, get over it.

Things that wouldn't work right now:
* Masked Kane
* Stone Cold at his best
* The Rock at his best
* Triple H with the sledgehammer

I kinda disagree with this. Whenever Rock and Stone Cold arrive on Raw, the crowd goes insane. The Rock and Stone Cold at there best would have people standing on there feet with excitement.

Kane needs that mask to be taken seriously again. I know it sounds silly but that was the only thing that made Kane's character over with the fans. It made him seem mysterious and made sense since he was suppose to have a burnt face. Once WWE took it off, they took off the only mysterious thing going for Kane to be honest.

Triple H's use of the sledgehammer was awesome, especially when he was a heel.

What wouldn't work in the WWE today is "Win or YOUR FIRED!" storylines. Its been done by WWE a million times as of late and its really not needed unless they use this storyline for someone who is actually leaving the WWE.

ELNIOJR
07-31-2011, 01:52 PM
Allow me to Reverse the Question: In what Era possible, would this one work?!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1MAkFa7GU0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ias1cneqfA&feature=fvwrel

HCollins-TNA1
07-31-2011, 02:01 PM
I kinda disagree with this. Whenever Rock and Stone Cold arrive on Raw, the crowd goes insane. The Rock and Stone Cold at there best would have people standing on there feet with excitement.

Kane needs that mask to be taken seriously again. I know it sounds silly but that was the only thing that made Kane's character over with the fans. It made him seem mysterious and made sense since he was suppose to have a burnt face. Once WWE took it off, they took off the only mysterious thing going for Kane to be honest.

Triple H's use of the sledgehammer was awesome, especially when he was a heel.

What wouldn't work in the WWE today is "Win or YOUR FIRED!" storylines. Its been done by WWE a million times as of late and its really not needed unless they use this storyline for someone who is actually leaving the WWE.

I don't think Kane could go back to the mask... it wouldn't make much sense.... unless they make it more unbelievable and say it super power behind it..
As for Austin and Rock at their best see John Cena and Randy Orton who seems to took them roles on.....
The Triple H Sledge Hammer. can and can't work today... maybe a simple gut shot yes.... but a serious attack no.....

Juvenile Junkie
07-31-2011, 02:01 PM
Allow me to Reverse the Question: In what Era possible, would this one work?!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1MAkFa7GU0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ias1cneqfA&feature=fvwrel

no era,TNA's answer to the Boogeyman

WWTNA Mark
07-31-2011, 02:04 PM
I don't think Kane could go back to the mask... it wouldn't make much sense.... unless they make it more unbelievable and say it super power behind it..

It actually would. All they have to do is turn this into a storyline and it would go over with the crowd. Note that two weeks ago, Kane said that he was feeling more of a human and less of a monster. This would be a great time to bring the mask back.


As for Austin and Rock at their best see John Cena and Randy Orton who seems to took them roles on.....
The Triple H Sledge Hammer. can and can't work today... maybe a simple gut shot yes.... but a serious attack no.....

Agreed with this.

HCollins-TNA1
07-31-2011, 02:05 PM
no era,TNA's answer to the Boogeyman
Or Rico, or Perry Saturn....

HCollins-TNA1
07-31-2011, 02:07 PM
How believable is super power we isn't all kids who don't real from fake......
Although something with the mask could work.... it would take something to make it seem real...

It actually would. All they have to do is turn this into a storyline and it would go over with the crowd. Note that two weeks ago, Kane said that he was feeling more of a human and less of a monster. This would be a great time to bring the mask back.



Agreed with this.

WWTNA Mark
07-31-2011, 02:35 PM
How believable is super power we isn't all kids who don't real from fake......
Although something with the mask could work.... it would take something to make it seem real...

Everything doesn't have to be all believable in WWE hence why its an entertainment show.

Juvenile Junkie
07-31-2011, 02:45 PM
Or Rico, or Perry Saturn....

Goldust.imGINE ORLndo JordAN and Goldust(nineties version) tag team

Juvenile Junkie
07-31-2011, 02:47 PM
Everything doesn't have to be all believable in WWE hence why its an entertainment show.

false,it should be as believable as possible in order to not insult the viewer's intelligance

WWTNA Mark
07-31-2011, 02:51 PM
false,it should be as believable as possible in order to not insult the viewer's intelligance

Its a scripted wrestling show with entertainment in it for crying out loud, don't you think trying to make it seem real is already insulting out intelligence???

xAzureSkye
07-31-2011, 02:53 PM
false,it should be as believable as possible in order to not insult the viewer's intelligance

So are we supposed to believe that Hornswoggle is actually a leprechaun? or that Undertaker is dead?

Tommy Thunder
07-31-2011, 02:56 PM
Allow me to Reverse the Question: In what Era possible, would this one work?!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1MAkFa7GU0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ias1cneqfA&feature=fvwrel

I'll be honest, that theme is freaking awesome!!

xAzureSkye
07-31-2011, 02:58 PM
I'll be honest, that theme is freaking awesome!!

Better than his WWE theme anyway

ELNIOJR
07-31-2011, 03:58 PM
I'll be honest, that theme is freaking awesome!!

I'll give him/them that. It's not bad at all, but it would be epic on somebody else, probably...

Tommy Thunder
07-31-2011, 04:16 PM
I'll give him/them that. It's not bad at all, but it would be epic on somebody else, probably...

Yeah, shame they wasted that theme on someone they hardly used and who's nor gone!!

gohan
07-31-2011, 04:51 PM
well same thing with edge his rated r super star char would not go down well look at mick floey him coming out barbie would not happen case pg 14 wwe let floey have his barbwire brod and his thumbtacks to a days that would not happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for you youngins who dont who barbie is it is mick barwire bat !

WWTNA Mark
07-31-2011, 06:14 PM
well same thing with edge his rated r super star char would not go down well look at mick floey him coming out barbie would not happen case pg 14 wwe let floey have his barbwire brod and his thumbtacks to a days that would not happen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for you youngins who dont who barbie is it is mick barwire bat !

Its PG 13, not PG 14.

xAzureSkye
07-31-2011, 06:20 PM
Its PG 13, not PG 14.

In certain countries it's rated TV 14

Where I live the ratings are more complicated, they aren't like PG, PG 13, TV-R etc.

eboy
07-31-2011, 06:40 PM
I don't think Undertakers gimmick would work well if debuted in this era.Many people wouldn't take it seriously
i dont think managment would have gone for it

although Undertaker is actually an Icon amongst Kids More than HHH or HBK

Juvenile Junkie
08-01-2011, 12:38 AM
Its a scripted wrestling show with entertainment in it for crying out loud, don't you think trying to make it seem real is already insulting out intelligence???

no just keep storylines as believable as possible(avoid nonsense like that AByss vs Sting feud from 2007/08) and have matches end with a 'realistic' finish,not some guy betting pinned after being hit by a shoe(Jeff Hardy) or some guy getting pinned after a low blow(Matt Hardy)

Juvenile Junkie
08-01-2011, 12:41 AM
CM Punk and Edge(main eventer,rated R superstar) would have been better suited to the attitiude era.Imagine the uproar and commotion that his affair with Lita would have caused in the nineties!


Raven wouldn't have been as effective as he was in the nineties

WWTNA Mark
08-01-2011, 01:37 PM
no just keep storylines as believable as possible(avoid nonsense like that AByss vs Sting feud from 2007/08) and have matches end with a 'realistic' finish,not some guy betting pinned after being hit by a shoe(Jeff Hardy) or some guy getting pinned after a low blow(Matt Hardy)

Still, WWE is a scripted entertainment wrestling show either way you put it. Its nothing wrong with it either.

Markedoutforlife
08-01-2011, 02:09 PM
Katie vick
Kane and rvd weed jokes
First blood matches
Golddust/piper/oj simpson car chase
Schnitsky/lita/kane pregnancy
Billy and chuck relationship
Takers gimmick
Dude love
Sandman/raven storyline

xAzureSkye
08-01-2011, 02:27 PM
Mae Young... the things that woman did.

Had sex with Mark Henry
gave birth to a hand
tried to get naked several times
had a threesome with Moolah and Gene Okerlund which was hilarious