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The_Awesome_One
07-28-2011, 04:55 PM
Ever since july 28th 2008 WWE has offically been PG wether it has brought WWE to its knees or made it truely better for all audiences (LOL Yeah right), is beyond the point for today is the offical third birthday of PG so be nice to the little peckerhead. (for today anyway)

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 05:01 PM
Yep strange how all the DVDs that they release of the PPVs over that time are either 12 0r 15 cert.

Steve Austin
07-28-2011, 05:23 PM
Yep strange how all the DVDs that they release of the PPVs over that time are either 12 0r 15 cert.

It may seem like I'm stalking you but I'm not ;) WWE DVD's in the uk are still 15 rated and so are the games, I don't get it but I'm old enough to buy them anyway its just weird seeing as it PG.

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 05:27 PM
It may seem like I'm stalking you but I'm not ;) WWE DVD's in the uk are still 15 rated and so are the games, I don't get it but I'm old enough to buy them anyway its just weird seeing as it PG.

Well part of a course i had to do at college we learnt all about PEGI and the BBFC and we had to give the right cert to the right thing. Going on there rules LEGO STAR WARS should technically be a 15. But i think its classed as a 12 cant remember

ChrisQ1
07-28-2011, 05:29 PM
Storyline wise, its made the product stale and theres not been many breakout stars. But in a way I am glad they went PG and toned it down, the amount of stress that hardcore and attitude style wrestling puts on the wrestlers bodies is quite harsh and the less blood ect means they will be healthier. Creative just need a shot up the arse really because if they can make captivating storylines we dont need 12 or 15 tv. TNA proves that a maturer content doesnt mean its better than PG.

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 05:31 PM
Storyline wise, its made the product stale and theres not been many breakout stars. But in a way I am glad they went PG and toned it down, the amount of stress that hardcore and attitude style wrestling puts on the wrestlers bodies is quite harsh and the less blood ect means they will be healthier. Creative just need a shot up the arse really because if they can make captivating storylines we dont need 12 or 15 tv. TNA proves that a maturer content doesnt mean its better than PG.

TNA of 5 years ago did

The Brown One
07-28-2011, 05:44 PM
TNA of 5 years ago did

Stop living in the past.

Y2J___Y2J
07-28-2011, 05:44 PM
PG has made it less interesting for the fans BUT all around it's better for everyone in general
Better for the wrestlers as there's no blading and kids only want to see their finishers or more used moves so they don't have to go out of their way and turn the match into a spot fest..
Better for the fans .. as parents let kids watch wrestling nowadays as there's no swearing or insane storylines (which what was practically attempted murder in some cases) but it brings fans in which is good for the business

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 05:45 PM
Stop living in the past.

I know i know but that was back when TNA was watchable. HAIL SABIN.

The Brown One
07-28-2011, 05:58 PM
I know i know but that was back when TNA was watchable. HAIL SABIN.

TNA has it's occassional good highlights:

* Destination X PPV-with the great X-Division matches that we used to watch TNA for
* Gen Me/Beer Money/MCMG matches

Unfortunately they managed to fuck up the last section too, but at least we still have the people in MCMG and Beer Money left.

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 06:02 PM
TNA has it's occassional good highlights:

* Destination X PPV-with the great X-Division matches that we used to watch TNA for
* Gen Me/Beer Money/MCMG matches

Unfortunately they managed to fuck up the last section too, but at least we still have the people in MCMG and Beer Money left.

Yeah but main problem with that is you have to sit through a hour of crap until Beer Money Inc come along. (best tag team of last five years)

And agree with Destination X by far their best PPV

The Brown One
07-28-2011, 06:56 PM
Yeah but main problem with that is you have to sit through a hour of crap until Beer Money Inc come along. (best tag team of last five years)

And agree with Destination X by far their best PPV

Thats something that we can both completely agree on.

And people say that the WWE is stale. Its doing quite well right now compared to TNA (who aren't that bad either right now to be fair).

helmsley
07-28-2011, 07:13 PM
i think that pg era is both good and bad, and i think that more than a prohibition, its an opportunity to do different things

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 07:18 PM
You know alot of people have been talking about a 3rd brand recently.

What do you all think of them ditching this PG era and turning the 3rd brand into a PG zone.

Have the likes of John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara, Kofi Kingston, etc..... all the wrestlers that dont really need to be over the PG rating or their main appeal being towards a younger audience. This would keep parents happy only allowing kids to watch that show and would allow more violence back into matches for more mature fans?

What do you all think?

MinistryOfDarkness
07-28-2011, 07:22 PM
That would be great if I could remember what you said. I'm still looking at Eve's trunk.

ChrisQ1
07-28-2011, 07:46 PM
You know alot of people have been talking about a 3rd brand recently.

What do you all think of them ditching this PG era and turning the 3rd brand into a PG zone.

Have the likes of John Cena, Rey Mysterio, Sin Cara, Kofi Kingston, etc..... all the wrestlers that dont really need to be over the PG rating or their main appeal being towards a younger audience. This would keep parents happy only allowing kids to watch that show and would allow more violence back into matches for more mature fans?

What do you all think?

Do you really think that violence and blood will make for a better product. The current storyline with Punk and Cena is PG, no extreme violence, no outlandish story which will turn parents away. CM Punk said it best on a recent ESPN podcast, the attitude era is in the past, instead of reliving the violence and blood its time for a new era. A more real era, with real characters being portayed by real people. He called it the reality era and I for one would like to see that instead of some watered down version of the attitude era. WWE will be PG for many years to come, they have no real reason to go 12 or 15. Only when rating and buyrates fall to an extremely low level will Vince, Steph, Dunn and Hunter think about changing it up. But I think from this point on we will see an improvement in storylines but not with the violence people crave. They need to build more stars before the young children grow older and only then in about 4-8 years time will we see slightly more violence but we will never return to the extreme of the past. Theres just no need for the violence in todays culture.

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 07:50 PM
Do you really think that violence and blood will make for a better product. The current storyline with Punk and Cena is PG, no extreme violence, no outlandish story which will turn parents away. CM Punk said it best on a recent ESPN podcast, the attitude era is in the past, instead of reliving the violence and blood its time for a new era. A more real era, with real characters being portayed by real people. He called it the reality era and I for one would like to see that instead of some watered down version of the attitude era. WWE will be PG for many years to come, they have no real reason to go 12 or 15. Only when rating and buyrates fall to an extremely low level will Vince, Steph, Dunn and Hunter think about changing it up. But I think from this point on we will see an improvement in storylines but not with the violence people crave. They need to build more stars before the young children grow older and only then in about 4-8 years time will we see slightly more violence but we will never return to the extreme of the past. Theres just no need for the violence in todays culture.

Fair point but it would just give it more of a vareity. Its just WWE has alienated the fans that love the violence. CM Punk storyline is excellent but name me one other storyline at the minute that has everyone waiting to see what happens next? (Daniel Bryan dosent count because he said hed cash i at wrestlemania)

ChrisQ1
07-28-2011, 07:59 PM
I personally am looking foward to the conclusion of the Orton, Christian fued, again good wrestling with a good compelling storyline with little to no violence. The R Truth conspiricy also cracks me up, I am looking forward to a good match between him and Morrison at Summerslam. Given there isnt too much to pick from at the moment but I think there will be a improvement in the near future. Dont get me wrong I would love to see the blood and violence back as much as you do, the attitude era was what got me hooked but sadly it just won't happen, Vince isnt interested to much in the 'violence' demographic at the moment. If I want blood and hardcore I just watch TNA because while they arent the best company storyline wise you know you will get a good match or two and you also know that when they go hardcore they wont hold much back. But hey if Vince comes out tomorrow and says we are going mature, I would not complain one bit.

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 08:08 PM
I personally am looking foward to the conclusion of the Orton, Christian fued, again good wrestling with a good compelling storyline with little to no violence.

(Joke) Included spitting in another persons mouth though which is rarely seen outside of porn.

I lost all interest in Orton though after his rivalry with Undertaker ended. But the rest of what you say you cant really argue with.

I have hated TNA for five years now. I know i repeated myself but dont care.

Necroyeti
07-28-2011, 08:36 PM
PG's not been that bad. It's probably more correlation than causation, but the quality of the actual wrestling in WWE seems to have improved A LOT since 2005-2008. (In my opinion)

I do miss the occasional blood though. Let's hold a quick tribute to bladejobs.
http://www.silhobbit.com/silweb/features/wilsonwrestle/wrestlemania13.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DfkOI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fv5ZO.gif
http://amoidewa.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/200px-eddie_jbl_jd04.jpg

TNA 'The very best'
07-28-2011, 08:36 PM
28th July 2008, the day WWE managed to fuck there own arses, - i dont even think this makes sense but i wanted to say it anyways.

WWTNA Mark
07-28-2011, 08:39 PM
http://i.imgur.com/DfkOI.jpg


Holy fuck! Cena bladed like hell that night!

helmsley
07-28-2011, 09:09 PM
PG's not been that bad. It's probably more correlation than causation, but the quality of the actual wrestling in WWE seems to have improved A LOT since 2005-2008. (In my opinion)

I do miss the occasional blood though. Let's hold a quick tribute to bladejobs.
http://www.silhobbit.com/silweb/features/wilsonwrestle/wrestlemania13.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DfkOI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fv5ZO.gif
http://amoidewa.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/200px-eddie_jbl_jd04.jpg

damn........ althought i think pg is a good move, i also think that in some matches blood is necessary, as part of the storyline or to make the match better. but not all the time like tna does, for example taker vs hhh in wm 27 could have used some blood

Necroyeti
07-28-2011, 09:16 PM
I don't think it's so much "necessary" so much as it's "fucking cool".

It certainly isn't "necessary" nowadays, because you rarely see guys waffling each other over the head anymore in WWE. What are they gonna do, blade for no reason? (Hey Ric Flair, how ya doin'?)

helmsley
07-28-2011, 09:28 PM
I don't think it's so much "necessary" so much as it's "fucking cool".

It certainly isn't "necessary" nowadays, because you rarely see guys waffling each other over the head anymore in WWE. What are they gonna do, blade for no reason? (Hey Ric Flair, how ya doin'?)

haha see your point, what i mean is that sometimes it makes the match "cooler" or more intense, i agree that it might be a detail but sometimes details matter, for example, i think first blood matches were really entertaining and refreshing

Necroyeti
07-28-2011, 10:12 PM
First Blood matches are a strange case of nostalgia for me.... I hated them when they used to have them because they almost always ended in some kind of fuck finish, and yet I still miss them. I think the idea of "brawl until you make the other guy bleed" is just, well, a really cool stip.

Ruthless_Aggression
07-28-2011, 10:15 PM
PG's not been that bad. It's probably more correlation than causation, but the quality of the actual wrestling in WWE seems to have improved A LOT since 2005-2008. (In my opinion)

I do miss the occasional blood though. Let's hold a quick tribute to bladejobs.
http://www.silhobbit.com/silweb/features/wilsonwrestle/wrestlemania13.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/DfkOI.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fv5ZO.gif
http://amoidewa.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/200px-eddie_jbl_jd04.jpg

Holy hell, without that spinner belt, I would never have guessed that was John Cena! O.O

Eve's Arse No.1
07-28-2011, 10:15 PM
First Blood matches are a strange case of nostalgia for me.... I hated them when they used to have them because they almost always ended in some kind of fuck finish, and yet I still miss them. I think the idea of "brawl until you make the other guy bleed" is just, well, a really cool stip.

I remember the Stone Cold - Undertaker one i swear stone cold started bleeding but it wasnt called. That was a major problem with them.

And the infamous bloody towel in TNA

Necroyeti
07-28-2011, 10:27 PM
Holy hell, without that spinner belt, I would never have guessed that was John Cena! O.O
Yeah, he looks like a walking corpse there.
http://i.imgur.com/JCX0M.png

WPack911
07-28-2011, 10:42 PM
Yeah, he looks like a walking corpse there.
http://i.imgur.com/JCX0M.png

LOL, that shit is priceless!

Oh and don't worry guys, PG might not be so PG anymore cause we have now entered the Reality Era! :D

sincara
07-29-2011, 02:37 AM
Its the 29th now we can all complain about pg again :)

Juvenile Junkie
07-29-2011, 04:33 AM
Stop living in the past.

why things were so much better

Juvenile Junkie
07-29-2011, 04:38 AM
PG sucks.
PG sucks
PG sucks
PG sucks


WWE without WCW is nothing

Markedoutforlife
07-29-2011, 06:01 AM
Ecw progessed and overexposed extreme violence. We have to go backwards to grow sometimes in life. Do you teally think that blading is a good thing? We are in,the rennaisance of wrestling right now, and I beleive that all three companies offer something for everyone. No one needs to bleed a gallon of blood for entertainment. Remember when undertaker fought lesnar in hell in a cell? I got queezy seeing taker bleed like that. Even the ufc has bammed things for the betterment of the talent. Pg is a good thing, and an unjust scapegoat. Dont blame pg for lackluster writing. It is 2011 and im still a lifer. Im not gonna be disenchanted because a steel chair cant be wrapped around a human beings head. Everyone cried foel when tna had a brutal chairshot, and for good reason, but wwe gets all kinds of heat when they protect their talent.
Leave it to the marks to complain about every facet of what they claim to love.

Thanks alot ewn.

steveorton
07-29-2011, 07:49 AM
Ecw progessed and overexposed extreme violence. We have to go backwards to grow sometimes in life. Do you teally think that blading is a good thing? We are in,the rennaisance of wrestling right now, and I beleive that all three companies offer something for everyone. No one needs to bleed a gallon of blood for entertainment. Remember when undertaker fought lesnar in hell in a cell? I got queezy seeing taker bleed like that. Even the ufc has bammed things for the betterment of the talent. Pg is a good thing, and an unjust scapegoat. Dont blame pg for lackluster writing. It is 2011 and im still a lifer. Im not gonna be disenchanted because a steel chair cant be wrapped around a human beings head. Everyone cried foel when tna had a brutal chairshot, and for good reason, but wwe gets all kinds of heat when they protect their talent.
Leave it to the marks to complain about every facet of what they claim to love.

Thanks alot ewn.

Quoted for the f@cking truth, I'm jus sayin...

Markedoutforlife
07-29-2011, 08:55 AM
Quoted for the f@cking truth, I'm jus sayin...

I may have killed this thread.