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Bralon23
06-30-2011, 01:29 AM
I recently purchased the Best of WCW Nitro DVD and I've been re-living some of the great moments with the nWo. They were so hated by the fans, but the thing that put their hatred over so much can be attributed to Hulk Hogan. He was so beloved by the kids, and the parents that it was unconceivable that he would turn their backs on them. I think this is what's going to be done with John Cena. They're putting him over as a super face so much with the fans right now. They can hear the divide in the crowds where half of the people boo and half of the people cheer. I think they're setting him up to be our eras new Hollywood Hogan. He's eventually going to have to work heel and I think the time will come after the WM match with The Rock. What do you guys think about Cena going heel? Do you think he'll be the best at it, because personally I do. Let me know what you think.

jrsckilla23
06-30-2011, 02:20 AM
I dont care if cena is a face or heel I will never like him inside the wrestling entertainment business. Cena is like the new hogan as a face but I never hogan and cena might be the new heel like hogan which I still didnt like him. So no matter what cena does I will never have respect for him inside the wrestling business, ourside the.business its a whole different story

blink
06-30-2011, 02:32 AM
I dont care if cena is a face or heel I will never like him inside the wrestling entertainment business. Cena is like the new hogan as a face but I never hogan and cena might be the new heel like hogan which I still didnt like him. So no matter what cena does I will never have respect for him inside the wrestling business, ourside the.business its a whole different story

Why wouldn't you respect him in the wrestling business? Hes only been praised as one of the hardest working superstars in and out of the ring. Sure his character is bland but he's proven he can put on good matches and goes out there every night and gives solid performances. I'm saying this and I'm not a cena fan either! He's not the best but he's far from the worst and the fact that he bleeds wwe and does anything the company asks of him and more is admirable. You can say you don't like his character but you have to respect the man. He's practically carried the company on his shoulders for years now.

Enforcer23
06-30-2011, 02:33 AM
yeah i remeber when he was a white rapper and was heel he can play it very well and after all these years of being face a turn like that would be jaw dropping to the fans

BackDaFoosleUp
06-30-2011, 02:40 AM
cena will never be heel, get over it

Razorblade
06-30-2011, 04:18 AM
Rapper Cena was one of the best heels the WWE had, specially when he had great feuds with Angle, Undertaker, Brock Lesnar .. IMO his promos are one of the best. His super Cena gimmick has become boring and very predictable specially when he wins wins every match.

K-Jammin
06-30-2011, 04:19 AM
I so so SO want Cena to be heel, i think as soon as someone starts selling more merchandise than him then it's possible they will turn him heel but im not holding my breath over it.

WWTNA Mark
06-30-2011, 06:22 AM
cena will never be heel, get over it

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monctonvike
06-30-2011, 06:42 AM
Cena would likely never be a heel unless he leaves wwe, although this is the business of never say never personified. So I won't say never but its likely never, vkm has a cash cow, its a big risk that he might not be able to come back from.

ihearvoices
06-30-2011, 08:17 AM
I for one hope he never turns heel...Why would you want to take that away from the younger fan base thats kinda selfish IMO...We got the chance to fall in love with larger than life wrestlers like Hogan..Ultimate Warrior and much others who was never heels in WWE these guys was our heroes growing up. i would never want to take that away from the younger fan base. i hope cena never turns heel he can become more bad ass but not heel. Cena was already heel for the first part of his career i think he should just end it off as face and be one of the rare guys who became larger than life and never turn his back on the fans and became heel. When it comes to Rey and cena they just better off face than heel

zapphoman
06-30-2011, 08:45 AM
Why wouldn't you respect him in the wrestling business? Hes only been praised as one of the hardest working superstars in and out of the ring. Sure his character is bland but he's proven he can put on good matches and goes out there every night and gives solid performances. I'm saying this and I'm not a cena fan either! He's not the best but he's far from the worst and the fact that he bleeds wwe and does anything the company asks of him and more is admirable. You can say you don't like his character but you have to respect the man. He's practically carried the company on his shoulders for years now.

I agree. Not a big fan of him myself, but I do have to admit he paid his dues unlike Orton. He does have the potential to be an amazing wrestler, they just need to make a drastic change to his in ring style and character and he would have a mark in me.

Lamar8902
06-30-2011, 10:21 AM
I recently purchased the Best of WCW Nitro DVD and I've been re-living some of the great moments with the nWo. They were so hated by the fans, but the thing that put their hatred over so much can be attributed to Hulk Hogan. He was so beloved by the kids, and the parents that it was unconceivable that he would turn their backs on them. I think this is what's going to be done with John Cena. They're putting him over as a super face so much with the fans right now. They can hear the divide in the crowds where half of the people boo and half of the people cheer. I think they're setting him up to be our eras new Hollywood Hogan. He's eventually going to have to work heel and I think the time will come after the WM match with The Rock. What do you guys think about Cena going heel? Do you think he'll be the best at it, because personally I do. Let me know what you think.

Hahahahahaha this is a very funny topic Cena won't be a heel I repeat won't be a heel Cena has already stated he won't go heel he has to many kids way more than what Hogan had remember Hogan had everyone not just kids 1.if it does happen isn't wwe copying wcw??? So nobody is going to trash wwe for copying old wcw storylines or is it just TNA u bash 2.it won't work after all Cena has done for the kids the make a wish foundation and what not look Cena won't go heel even if Vince told him to he has too many kids as his fans well it's the only thing he has so it won't happen Hahahahahaha sorry dude!!!

AOF666
06-30-2011, 11:53 AM
Reality check, Cena is the poor man Hogan. His white boy rapper gimmick sucked, I looked at him as a joke and still do. I think his chances of turning heel already passed. If they were going to turn him heel, it should been when he was with NEXUS. He should of became the new leader.

Snair
06-30-2011, 12:23 PM
But you gotta look at the other side as well, for me the talent of wrestler is how well he is able to do justice to his face/heel turn along with inring work but if WWE isn't willing to turn him heel at somewhere down the line then they're not showing confidence in his abilities as a heel.

erroneous
06-30-2011, 12:25 PM
If John Cena turned heel the half the crowd that boo him now would start cheering him, and the half that are currently cheering him will start booing.

Enforcer23
06-30-2011, 12:45 PM
If John Cena turned heel the half the crowd that boo him now would start cheering him, and the half that are currently cheering him will start booing.


it would give us something fresh

ihearvoices
06-30-2011, 01:02 PM
If John Cena turned heel the half the crowd that boo him now would start cheering him, and the half that are currently cheering him will start booing.

We basically get that now aint no point in changing him at all...WWE would lose money...IMO alot of the IWC who claim to be fans of wwe are as closed minded as vince is...Alot of the IWC dont think from both point of view just like vince he only cares about what he wants and what works for him and will make him money while most of the IWC only cares what works for them and what will be entertaining for them....if both side would look at either others point of views and way of thinking then WWE would be OMG the greatest thing since the late 70's early 90's

WWTNA Mark
06-30-2011, 01:23 PM
We basically get that now aint no point in changing him at all...WWE would lose money...IMO alot of the IWC who claim to be fans of wwe are as closed minded as vince is...Alot of the IWC dont think from both point of view just like vince he only cares about what he wants and what works for him and will make him money while most of the IWC only cares what works for them and what will be entertaining for them....if both side would look at either others point of views and way of thinking then WWE would be OMG the greatest thing since the late 70's early 90's

Well said ihearvoices.

Mr. McMahon
06-30-2011, 01:38 PM
everyone who says cena should never turn heel, jeez am I glad you don't run the company.

So what if Cena turns heel? WWE is scared that they will stop making money? That sales will go down. Oh for god sakes, where have WWE's balls gone? Quit relying on Cena... who knows tomorrow Cena might have a heart attack, or his plane might crash, he may be in a car accident... what then WWE? How are you going to make money then huh?

I am so sick of WWE 'testing the waters' to see if something works, they don't wanna risk something... fuck that, what happened to WWE's balls? By doing this they have not been able to create any new stars for the past 6 years... all their potential future big stars have left the company: Carlito, Shelton, Kennedy, Hassan, Burke, Lesnar, Lashley, MVP and now CM Punk.

They only pushed Orton to look strong when they knew Batista was leaving and needed a replacement, they could have done that to Orton in 2007. But no.

Fine keep Cena face, and he will be the only big star in the company for years to come. Morrison, Miz, Del Rio, Swagger, Sheamus will all remain in the mid card just like Orton was from 2005-2009 despite being world champions.

They have failed to create new stars cause they are oh so scared of loosing Cena fans.

I don't recollect WWE losing fans, or merch sales when Austin and Rock turned heel? Oh wait that was in an era when WWF had balls and when the average rating was a 6.2... my bad... oh yeah their biggest star 'Stone Cold' was out for like 10 months but they still managed to keep their high ratings and merch sales... but no wait Attitude era sucked right? it was horrible, I mean it was the worse... they had awful promos, awful wrestlers, awful wresting yet the numbers were the record breaking...

ihearvoices
06-30-2011, 01:54 PM
everyone who says cena should never turn heel, jeez am I glad you don't run the company.

So what if Cena turns heel? WWE is scared that they will stop making money? That sales will go down. Oh for god sakes, where have WWE's balls gone? Quit relying on Cena... who knows tomorrow Cena might have a heart attack, or his plane might crash, he may be in a car accident... what then WWE? How are you going to make money then huh?

I am so sick of WWE 'testing the waters' to see if something works, they don't wanna risk something... fuck that, what happened to WWE's balls? By doing this they have not been able to create any new stars for the past 6 years... all their potential future big stars have left the company: Carlito, Shelton, Kennedy, Hassan, Burke, Lesnar, Lashley, MVP and now CM Punk.

They only pushed Orton to look strong when they knew Batista was leaving and needed a replacement, they could have done that to Orton in 2007. But no.

Fine keep Cena face, and he will be the only big star in the company for years to come. Morrison, Miz, Del Rio, Swagger, Sheamus will all remain in the mid card just like Orton was from 2005-2009 despite being world champions.

They have failed to create new stars cause they are oh so scared of loosing Cena fans.

I don't recollect WWE losing fans, or merch sales when Austin and Rock turned heel? Oh wait that was in an era when WWF had balls and when the average rating was a 6.2... my bad... oh yeah their biggest star 'Stone Cold' was out for like 10 months but they still managed to keep their high ratings and merch sales... but no wait Attitude era sucked right? it was horrible, I mean it was the worse... they had awful promos, awful wrestlers, awful wresting yet the numbers were the record breaking...

^^^Perfect example of what im talking about....As far as rock and austin turning heel Rock was never ever a baby face he was a face no doubt but never a mega face and real over with the younger fans as hogan and cena. Stone cold has always and will always be Face/heel it just at one point in his career they decide to have him be 100% heel and work with HHH thats all. So u can compare the two plus times are way different if vince listen to people like you and had" balls" as you say and risked it every night he would lose sponsors and sooner than later be just like WCW,ECW and soon TNA and be out of business... You cant run business like how u saying making a bunch of not though tout risk u will lose customers and be out of business before you know it...As far as the whole making a star thing WWE nor Vince can make a star thats all up to the superstar and mainly fans. Either you got it or you dont and alot of people on the roster dont have it atleast right now. the roster is full of young guys with lack of experience. All those guys who had experience and that was in the main event picture left within a year apart from each other leaving the main event div very empty and unfilled. So alot of the IWC included yourself need to understand that and stop pointing the finger to vince and making the only suggesting of turning superstars heel or face cause that does not solve all problems.

WWTNA Mark
06-30-2011, 01:56 PM
everyone who says cena should never turn heel, jeez am I glad you don't run the company.

So what if Cena turns heel? WWE is scared that they will stop making money? That sales will go down. Oh for god sakes, where have WWE's balls gone? Quit relying on Cena... who knows tomorrow Cena might have a heart attack, or his plane might crash, he may be in a car accident... what then WWE? How are you going to make money then huh?

I am so sick of WWE 'testing the waters' to see if something works, they don't wanna risk something... fuck that, what happened to WWE's balls? By doing this they have not been able to create any new stars for the past 6 years... all their potential future big stars have left the company: Carlito, Shelton, Kennedy, Hassan, Burke, Lesnar, Lashley, MVP and now CM Punk.

They only pushed Orton to look strong when they knew Batista was leaving and needed a replacement, they could have done that to Orton in 2007. But no.

Fine keep Cena face, and he will be the only big star in the company for years to come. Morrison, Miz, Del Rio, Swagger, Sheamus will all remain in the mid card just like Orton was from 2005-2009 despite being world champions.

They have failed to create new stars cause they are oh so scared of loosing Cena fans.

I don't recollect WWE losing fans, or merch sales when Austin and Rock turned heel? Oh wait that was in an era when WWF had balls and when the average rating was a 6.2... my bad... oh yeah their biggest star 'Stone Cold' was out for like 10 months but they still managed to keep their high ratings and merch sales... but no wait Attitude era sucked right? it was horrible, I mean it was the worse... they had awful promos, awful wrestlers, awful wresting yet the numbers were the record breaking...

I strongly disagree and I tell you why:

When Austin turned heel, WWE had The Rock. When Hulk Hogan turned heel, WCW had Sting, Luger, and Flair. If John Cena turns heel, whose going to replace him? See your not thinking about that. Your too busy thinking of how great of a heel turn it would be for Cena and not realizing that if WWE were to make Cena a heel, WWE would lose money on merchandising and other deals and it would be a huge risk, especially in WWE's roster seeing as though Cena is their only cash cow. You say WWE had balls back then but that was in a time when heel turns were pretty much common during the Attitude Era. I got news for ya, the Attitude Era is dead my friend, it ain't coming back.

I also don't see whats the point in turning Cena heel in the first place. WWE would lose there only cash cow if he were to turn heel and WWE already has great heels like CM Punk, The Miz, R-Truth, Christian, Del Rio, Cody Rhodes, and Mark Henry. I just don't see the point in turning your only cash cow that is Cena just because the butt-hurt IWC can't get over the fact that Cena will be the face of the company for many years to come. Just to put it simple, IT IS NOT NEEDED.

ihearvoices
06-30-2011, 02:21 PM
I strongly disagree and I tell you why:

When Austin turned heel, WWE had The Rock. When Hulk Hogan turned heel, WCW had Sting, Luger, and Flair. If John Cena turns heel, whose going to replace him? See your not thinking about that. Your too busy thinking of how great of a heel turn it would be for Cena and not realizing that if WWE were to make Cena a heel, WWE would lose money on merchandising and other deals and it would be a huge risk, especially in WWE's roster seeing as though Cena is their only cash cow. You say WWE had balls back then but that was in a time when heel turns were pretty much common during the Attitude Era. I got news for ya, the Attitude Era is dead my friend, it ain't coming back.

I also don't see whats the point in turning Cena heel in the first place. WWE would lose there only cash cow if he were to turn heel and WWE already has great heels like CM Punk, The Miz, R-Truth, Christian, Del Rio, Cody Rhodes, and Mark Henry. I just don't see the point in turning your only cash cow that is Cena just because the butt-hurt IWC can't get over the fact that Cena will be the face of the company for many years to come. Just to put it simple, IT IS NOT NEEDED.

^^^^I strongly Agree plus if i remember we just had a post on here about WWE having too many heels and not enough faces so i dont get why alot of the IWC would want to change another superstar face

Y2J___Y2J
06-30-2011, 03:28 PM
Cena won't turn heel until he is no longer the face of the company.. sure every adult hates his character but the 'E is aimed at kids.. if Cena turned heel it would be a major fuck up.. I mean , I hate his character as much as any other member of the IWC but it would be insane the amount of revenue the WWE would lose on t-shirts and DVD's and other shit he endorses

maar13
06-30-2011, 04:03 PM
cena will never be heel, get over it


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OK, first of all, never say never, When Hulk Hogan character really became stagnant, he whent Heel in 1996 and it completed changed the game.

At some point, not this year, maybe not even the year after that, but at some point, he will go heel. I am not looking forward to that day because is not somethign that intrigues me that much, but that is just how things go.

Wrestling can be stagnant at the moment, yes but at some point something will have to change, even if it is a little change, even Cena at some point needs to try other things and Vince knows it, at some pint even if it has to be Randy Orton as the main face for a few months (Please....no) Cena will have to turn a little, young kids will have to grow and will stop caring, at some point for them to care again he will have to become more human and that means to walk on the Dark side for a little.


I for one hope he never turns heel...Why would you want to take that away from the younger fan base thats kinda selfish IMO...We got the chance to fall in love with larger than life wrestlers like Hogan..Ultimate Warrior and much others who was never heels in WWE these guys was our heroes growing up. i would never want to take that away from the younger fan base. i hope cena never turns heel he can become more bad ass but not heel. Cena was already heel for the first part of his career i think he should just end it off as face and be one of the rare guys who became larger than life and never turn his back on the fans and became heel. When it comes to Rey and cena they just better off face than heel

Yes tha tlgic works too, but just notice than Hogan was 10 years with the WWE as a face butt hey were trying to find someone else after 8 years, he became stale, in order to refresh himlsef, he needed to cange and he was welcomed when he returned to being a good guy, even if the WCW was going down.


John Cena has been a face for 7 solid years, e could be the same for anothe rtwo but a little refreshment of character would not hurt him, he can be the same guy afterwards but needs a little look at his darker side.

Why? because there is nothing better than redemtion in pretty much all stories, when heroes redeem theirselves. I thing that it would do wonders for Cena, he will become even more over, or over with certain people that are asking for him to turn, it will give them a reason to care, even if he becomes face again, which I thing he is good at.

Noth everything has to be black and white, Cena can pull a great heel turn and even a better return to be a face.

maar13
06-30-2011, 04:30 PM
I strongly disagree and I tell you why:

When Austin turned heel, WWE had The Rock. When Hulk Hogan turned heel, WCW had Sting, Luger, and Flair. If John Cena turns heel, whose going to replace him? See your not thinking about that. Your too busy thinking of how great of a heel turn it would be for Cena and not realizing that if WWE were to make Cena a heel, WWE would lose money on merchandising and other deals and it would be a huge risk, especially in WWE's roster seeing as though Cena is their only cash cow. You say WWE had balls back then but that was in a time when heel turns were pretty much common during the Attitude Era. I got news for ya, the Attitude Era is dead my friend, it ain't coming back.

I also don't see whats the point in turning Cena heel in the first place. WWE would lose there only cash cow if he were to turn heel and WWE already has great heels like CM Punk, The Miz, R-Truth, Christian, Del Rio, Cody Rhodes, and Mark Henry. I just don't see the point in turning your only cash cow that is Cena just because the butt-hurt IWC can't get over the fact that Cena will be the face of the company for many years to come. Just to put it simple, IT IS NOT NEEDED.

Is not needed...now, but it might be into the future. Don't look at everthing black and white. You said that if he turns, there is none to replace him, and right now, I agree, but if it happens it opens a huge door for every one and it also gives the WWE it's major challenge in years.

Who is going to step up? who knows, maybe he is not even in the WWE yet, or maybe he has, but everyone has been so busy bashing everyone that probably none is noticing the next guy, and it doesn't have to be only one, it culd be a bunch of guys going there.

All the comments (Mentioning random guys, not because I support them but because they are there) on Morrison, Kingston, Bryan, Ryder and even some actual heels like Punk, The Miz, Otunga.....crap....no Delete Otunga...forget about Otunga.....Swagger, Mcintyre or someone else like Seth Rollins, all of them will have the oportunity to step up.

If the WWE continue with Cena strenght as a heel, he would be pretty much unbeatable until a major plarer comes along and the day he is defeated could serve two ways:

1. Humble the character again and made him more likable when he turns face again acknowledging his mistakes and relating again to the fans.

2. Opens the door to another major player in the board not named Randy Orton who at the time, still will be major player.

When Austing turned you said the Rock was there, sorry but that guy Left right after the turn (Which in my view was a major mistake at the time, i would hav ebeen better just one at the invasion that turned him 2 times) and the WWE had to turn to an Injured Undertaker and try to get the other talents over in the faces of Chris Jericho, Benoit, Kane and Kurt Angle, all of them great wrestlers but not the ones the fans need ed at the time.

Until the Rock came back people started to care but as it was before because they knew he was on and off so while a lot of people prise the The Rock, he was barely there.

Do I want him to turn heel? Not really. Do I want the Atittude Era to return? No, Been there, done that, was nice while it lasted but something new has to come. DOes it bother me that Cena is the Face of the company? Not really, but allow someone else to go to the top and really go to the top would be nice.

SO Will john Cena turn heel? Never say never becasue maybe tha tis what he needs to comeback as a real legend.

dres1214
06-30-2011, 06:45 PM
Fellas, we can argue about Cena turning heel and what not but whats the point. The man is the face of WWE. Like it or hate it that's how it is. I wouldn't mind seeing another face of the company. But, if John Cena turned heel and we would have a new face of WWE. The IWC would get tired of that person as well. I respect John Cena for what he does in and outside the business. The man is one of the hardest workers in WWE. But I am not a fan of his character, but I am realistic and realize that John Cena won't turn heel in the near future or any time soon.

WWTNA Mark
06-30-2011, 07:16 PM
^^^^I strongly Agree plus if i remember we just had a post on here about WWE having too many heels and not enough faces so i dont get why alot of the IWC would want to change another superstar face

Thanks. At least you get it.

WWTNA Mark
06-30-2011, 07:18 PM
Is not needed...now, but it might be into the future. Don't look at everthing black and white. You said that if he turns, there is none to replace him, and right now, I agree, but if it happens it opens a huge door for every one and it also gives the WWE it's major challenge in years.

Who is going to step up? who knows, maybe he is not even in the WWE yet, or maybe he has, but everyone has been so busy bashing everyone that probably none is noticing the next guy, and it doesn't have to be only one, it culd be a bunch of guys going there.

All the comments (Mentioning random guys, not because I support them but because they are there) on Morrison, Kingston, Bryan, Ryder and even some actual heels like Punk, The Miz, Otunga.....crap....no Delete Otunga...forget about Otunga.....Swagger, Mcintyre or someone else like Seth Rollins, all of them will have the oportunity to step up.

If the WWE continue with Cena strenght as a heel, he would be pretty much unbeatable until a major plarer comes along and the day he is defeated could serve two ways:

1. Humble the character again and made him more likable when he turns face again acknowledging his mistakes and relating again to the fans.

2. Opens the door to another major player in the board not named Randy Orton who at the time, still will be major player.

When Austing turned you said the Rock was there, sorry but that guy Left right after the turn (Which in my view was a major mistake at the time, i would hav ebeen better just one at the invasion that turned him 2 times) and the WWE had to turn to an Injured Undertaker and try to get the other talents over in the faces of Chris Jericho, Benoit, Kane and Kurt Angle, all of them great wrestlers but not the ones the fans need ed at the time.

Until the Rock came back people started to care but as it was before because they knew he was on and off so while a lot of people prise the The Rock, he was barely there.

Do I want him to turn heel? Not really. Do I want the Atittude Era to return? No, Been there, done that, was nice while it lasted but something new has to come. DOes it bother me that Cena is the Face of the company? Not really, but allow someone else to go to the top and really go to the top would be nice.

SO Will john Cena turn heel? Never say never becasue maybe tha tis what he needs to comeback as a real legend.

You clearly misread my post, big time. I never said Cena shouldn't ever turn heel, I said he shouldn't turn heel so quickly.

Trips88
06-30-2011, 07:40 PM
I would mark out if Cena went heel. That would make my day.

TheVipersCenation
06-30-2011, 11:47 PM
He doesn't even have to go heel ffs, just a new face gimmick will work.. maybe the good rapper guy? The leader of the Chain Gang Command Unit... and he doesn't always win.. im sure he'd get cheered more.

MrzigglesFTW!
07-01-2011, 06:41 AM
he could be behind the "company wide conspiracy" you never know he may join with R-truth.

maar13
07-01-2011, 03:02 PM
You clearly misread my post, big time. I never said Cena shouldn't ever turn heel, I said he shouldn't turn heel so quickly.

Nope, I read it all right. Yous said it was not needed, That he was going to be face for the years to come and that none was thinking of the aftermath. That you don't see the point on turning him in the first place. Those were your words not mine, that is post.

And so quickly? Then is what you misread mine, 2 years from now a year from now, not tomorrow, and even if it is tomorrow, it is not sudden, he has being a face for 7 freaking years, that is not quickly.


I do think in the Aftermath, I see the benefits of his turning, maybe you don0't even know about, people will turn with him, a lot of his older haters used to be Cena fans when he was a heel, and if a kid follows like some of us used to do, you don't turn on him, you turn with him.

When Stone Cold turned, a lot of people kept cheering, same happened to Hogan, and Sorry but Cena is not on that league yet, but he could in a few years, heel turn or not.

The only thing I say is don't be as closed as your post make you seem to be, the turn can benefit everyone some day, not now and not tomorrow but some day and if you thing that is something sudden, then the one mistaken is you. John Cena probably won't turn in along time,but when the time is right, the possibilities of it happening are very real.

WWTNA Mark
07-05-2011, 08:24 PM
Is not needed...now, but it might be into the future. Don't look at everthing black and white. You said that if he turns, there is none to replace him, and right now, I agree, but if it happens it opens a huge door for every one and it also gives the WWE it's major challenge in years.

Who is going to step up? who knows, maybe he is not even in the WWE yet, or maybe he has, but everyone has been so busy bashing everyone that probably none is noticing the next guy, and it doesn't have to be only one, it culd be a bunch of guys going there.

All the comments (Mentioning random guys, not because I support them but because they are there) on Morrison, Kingston, Bryan, Ryder and even some actual heels like Punk, The Miz, Otunga.....crap....no Delete Otunga...forget about Otunga.....Swagger, Mcintyre or someone else like Seth Rollins, all of them will have the oportunity to step up.

If the WWE continue with Cena strenght as a heel, he would be pretty much unbeatable until a major plarer comes along and the day he is defeated could serve two ways:

1. Humble the character again and made him more likable when he turns face again acknowledging his mistakes and relating again to the fans.

2. Opens the door to another major player in the board not named Randy Orton who at the time, still will be major player.

When Austing turned you said the Rock was there, sorry but that guy Left right after the turn (Which in my view was a major mistake at the time, i would hav ebeen better just one at the invasion that turned him 2 times) and the WWE had to turn to an Injured Undertaker and try to get the other talents over in the faces of Chris Jericho, Benoit, Kane and Kurt Angle, all of them great wrestlers but not the ones the fans need ed at the time.

Until the Rock came back people started to care but as it was before because they knew he was on and off so while a lot of people prise the The Rock, he was barely there.

Do I want him to turn heel? Not really. Do I want the Atittude Era to return? No, Been there, done that, was nice while it lasted but something new has to come. DOes it bother me that Cena is the Face of the company? Not really, but allow someone else to go to the top and really go to the top would be nice.

SO Will john Cena turn heel? Never say never becasue maybe tha tis what he needs to comeback as a real legend.

Its not looking at things black and white, its being realistic. WWE already has top heels *CM Punk & R-Truth* so I don't see how Cena truing heel will make a big difference. Also, Cena is WWE's money maker at the moment so he should play his role as WWE's money maker. Just my thoughts though.