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Steve Austin
06-20-2011, 06:18 AM
How can the ref one week DQ for The Miz dropping the belt in the ring because he thought he hit John Cena (he did but the ref wasn't looking) and at Extreme Rules pick up a phone and decide to listen to it and hear the I quit and restart the match but last night when Christians foot was under the rope he did nothing, there were tons of replays aswell, I know wwe book the matches and tell the ref what to do but they have to make it seem real if Christian and Orton reversed roles we all know the ref would restart the match, its always the same ref aswell.

Enforcer23
06-20-2011, 06:20 AM
yeah its called wwe remeber they have cole and king acting all nice agian asif we forgot the fued they have its jsut there way of carrying on this fued and what the refs did in other matches to make it more intresting

Yano88
06-20-2011, 06:42 AM
hope Christian gets a rematch...

Now that Sheamus is gone... he is the only true contender to Orton's title on Smackdown

Bennyladd1
06-20-2011, 06:43 AM
well its because Randy "Boreton" is above the rules, him and cena seem to win all the time unless their opponent screws them over, christian obviously carries him and Orton's matches and i had to skip most of the match due to Boreton, yes hes that damn boring.

shambo2k9
06-20-2011, 08:43 AM
well its because Randy "Boreton" is above the rules, him and cena seem to win all the time unless their opponent screws them over, christian obviously carries him and Orton's matches and i had to skip most of the match due to Boreton, yes hes that damn boring.

if you had to skip most the match how do you know christian carried him?

SilverGhost
06-20-2011, 08:48 AM
WWE creative team probably called Russo.

Rated_R(ob)KO
06-20-2011, 08:48 AM
if you had to skip most the match how do you know christian carried him?

Instant Zing!

sincara
06-20-2011, 10:35 AM
its simple cena is a face so the ref went in his favour same with orton

Steve Austin
06-20-2011, 11:17 AM
its simple cena is a face so the ref went in his favour same with orton

I get that it just really annoys me. That same ref all the time.

KSTornado
06-20-2011, 11:25 AM
How can the ref one week DQ for The Miz dropping the belt in the ring because he thought he hit John Cena (he did but the ref wasn't looking) and at Extreme Rules pick up a phone and decide to listen to it and hear the I quit and restart the match but last night when Christians foot was under the rope he did nothing, there were tons of replays aswell, I know wwe book the matches and tell the ref what to do but they have to make it seem real if Christian and Orton reversed roles we all know the ref would restart the match, its always the same ref aswell.



I guess people forget it is scripted. You do realise that the WWE is basically nothing but a male soap opera with physical contact correct or do you think every story line shown on tv is real?

Steve Austin
06-20-2011, 11:32 AM
I guess people forget it is scripted. You do realise that the WWE is basically nothing but a male soap opera with physical contact correct or do you think every story line shown on tv is real?

How can the ref one week DQ for The Miz dropping the belt in the ring because he thought he hit John Cena (he did but the ref wasn't looking) and at Extreme Rules pick up a phone and decide to listen to it and hear the I quit and restart the match but last night when Christians foot was under the rope he did nothing, there were tons of replays aswell, I know wwe book the matches and tell the ref what to do but they have to make it seem real if Christian and Orton reversed roles we all know the ref would restart the match, its always the same ref aswell.

Did you not see this bit. Come on pal I know it isn't real I just said its annoying.

TheBeardOfZeus
06-20-2011, 11:52 AM
To be honest, I agree with the OP.

But then again, this would have worked better the other way round, because a genuine case for a loss would be better for a face to argue and then get hit at the end.

But then again, Randy Orton is totally badass.

KSTornado
06-20-2011, 12:00 PM
How can the ref one week DQ for The Miz dropping the belt in the ring because he thought he hit John Cena (he did but the ref wasn't looking) and at Extreme Rules pick up a phone and decide to listen to it and hear the I quit and restart the match but last night when Christians foot was under the rope he did nothing, there were tons of replays aswell, I know wwe book the matches and tell the ref what to do but they have to make it seem real if Christian and Orton reversed roles we all know the ref would restart the match, its always the same ref aswell.

Did you not see this bit. Come on pal I know it isn't real I just said its annoying.



Guess I just think it is funny how people get all worked up over something they know is scripted and have no control over. I mean, you blame the ref when the ref is told what to do and then go on an internet forum and whine about it as though the ref has control or that WWE will all the sudden listen to you. Is it a joke what happened? Of course it is but that is what makes it a soap opera. Apparrently WWE is doing a good job since this ref "story line" was meant to piss you off.

Yano88
06-20-2011, 12:10 PM
Guess I just think it is funny how people get all worked up over something they know is scripted and have no control over. I mean, you blame the ref when the ref is told what to do and then go on an internet forum and whine about it as though the ref has control or that WWE will all the sudden listen to you. Is it a joke what happened? Of course it is but that is what makes it a soap opera. Apparrently WWE is doing a good job since this ref "story line" was meant to piss you off.

It's like saying "Why do you get scared when you watch an horror movie... You know it's fake and scripted"
"Why do you get emotional after seeing a good movie... You know it's fake and scripted"
"Why do you get a boner while watchin a porn movie... You know it's fake and scripted"

My point is: everything in television is fake and scripted... Of course we must not lose the sense of reality (which is a different thing) but we must also enjoy what we see...

Why are you registered on this site? Why do you watch wrestling if, no matter what they make you see, you'll say that is fake and scripted? Go doing something real like playing football or basketball...

Steve Austin
06-20-2011, 12:17 PM
It's like saying "Why do you get scared when you watch an horror movie... You know it's fake and scripted"
"Why do you get emotional after seeing a good movie... You know it's fake and scripted"
"Why do you get a boner while watchin a porn movie... You know it's fake and scripted"

My point is: everything in television is fake and scripted... Of course we must not lose the sense of reality (which is a different thing) but we must also enjoy what we see...

Why are you registered on this site? Why do you watch wrestling if, no matter what they make you see, you'll say that is fake and scripted? Go doing something real like playing football or basketball...

I like this guy. You just saved me a few minutes of having to reply :)

KSTornado
06-20-2011, 12:21 PM
It's like saying "Why do you get scared when you watch an horror movie... You know it's fake and scripted"
"Why do you get emotional after seeing a good movie... You know it's fake and scripted"
"Why do you get a boner while watchin a porn movie... You know it's fake and scripted"

My point is: everything in television is fake and scripted... Of course we must not lose the sense of reality (which is a different thing) but we must also enjoy what we see...

Why are you registered on this site? Why do you watch wrestling if, no matter what they make you see, you'll say that is fake and scripted? Go doing something real like playing football or basketball...



Thanks for your two cents and butting into the conversation. I've been watching wrestling since 1979. I registered in order to see comments from the wrestlers off tv and to read the PPV's since I only buy 2 of them a year. I enjoy watching wrestling because it is entertainment to me. I started posting on the forums awhile ago hoping for interesting dialog to certain subject matters. Unfortunately there are many here who just want to cry and whine about stuff instead of debate. Maybe it is my age compared to most here but to be honest there seems to be something missing from these forums and I would have to say that "thing" would be common sense.

Ps. I do do something real. It's called working for a living and paying my bills.

shambo2k9
06-20-2011, 12:25 PM
I like this guy. You just saved me a few minutes of having to reply :)


im pretty sure this is a reply ^http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRe0QcW3CMuMetkXrcg77xg7yEUP8tZE Pl-P9LCaWObFvKXv-Yojg&t=1

maar13
06-20-2011, 12:26 PM
How can the ref one week DQ for The Miz dropping the belt in the ring because he thought he hit John Cena (he did but the ref wasn't looking) and at Extreme Rules pick up a phone and decide to listen to it and hear the I quit and restart the match but last night when Christians foot was under the rope he did nothing, there were tons of replays aswell, I know wwe book the matches and tell the ref what to do but they have to make it seem real if Christian and Orton reversed roles we all know the ref would restart the match, its always the same ref aswell.

You know what? it is funny because 2 years ago, when Jeff Hardy was facing CM Punk, the same thing happened. Hardy had Punk pinned with his foot outside the ring and Mike Cioda counted 3, gave the title to Hardy, then he looked at Punk and called it off restarting the match that later Punk lost by DQ.

Thing here is the inconsistency of the calling. The match was cool though, but it is really becoming boring to see Christian lose time and time again. I mean either let it go or let the guy win at least one encounter.

The matches could be all 5 stars if you will but if the result is the same every time, it just gets boring.

shambo2k9
06-20-2011, 12:27 PM
Thanks for your two cents and butting into the conversation. I've been watching wrestling since 1979. I registered in order to see comments from the wrestlers off tv and to read the PPV's since I only buy 2 of them a year. I enjoy watching wrestling because it is entertainment to me. I started posting on the forums awhile ago hoping for interesting dialog to certain subject matters. Unfortunately there are many here who just want to cry and whine about stuff instead of debate. Maybe it is my age compared to most here but to be honest there seems to be something missing from these forums and I would have to say that "thing" would be common sense.

Ps. I do do something real. It's called working for a living and paying my bills.

lol you said do do. :)

shambo2k9
06-20-2011, 12:29 PM
You know what? it is funny because 2 years ago, when Jeff Hardy was facing CM Punk, the same thing happened. Hardy had Punk pinned with his foot outside the ring and Mike Cioda counted 3, gave the title to Hardy, then he looked at Punk and called it off restarting the match that later Punk lost by DQ.

Thing here is the inconsistency of the calling. The match was cool though, but it is really becoming boring to see Christian lose time and time again. I mean either let it go or let the guy win at least one encounter.

The matches could be all 5 stars if you will but if the result is the same every time, it just gets boring.

you do realise thos is a wrestlemania build up storyline.

Yano88
06-20-2011, 12:40 PM
Thanks for your two cents and butting into the conversation. I've been watching wrestling since 1979. I registered in order to see comments from the wrestlers off tv and to read the PPV's since I only buy 2 of them a year. I enjoy watching wrestling because it is entertainment to me. I started posting on the forums awhile ago hoping for interesting dialog to certain subject matters. Unfortunately there are many here who just want to cry and whine about stuff instead of debate. Maybe it is my age compared to most here but to be honest there seems to be something missing from these forums and I would have to say that "thing" would be common sense.

Ps. I do do something real. It's called working for a living and paying my bills.

Dude I did not want to offend you but it was you first saying: "Guess I just think it is funny how people get all worked up over something they know is scripted and have no control over."

I translated your words as: "It's funny to watch naive people that thinks tha t wrestling is real"
It's nothing like that...

It's like that there are people who try to enjoy what they see and thinks that is funnier to say "Hey the ref screwed Christian" instead of saying "Oh the WWE decided to not give the title to Christian".

KSTornado
06-20-2011, 12:48 PM
Perhaps it was the way it was posted because it sure looks like a whine post instead of a "Hey, why does the WWE keep doing this" type of post.

shambo2k9
06-20-2011, 01:02 PM
in 1979 this would of never happened
http://cdn.thefastertimes.com/prowrestling/files/2009/09/andre-the-giant.jpg

Bennyladd1
06-20-2011, 01:49 PM
if you had to skip most the match how do you know christian carried him?

1. Because orton is boring, therefore his opponent will make the match more exciting. Christian has a lot more charisma than Orton, the clue is in his nickname, captain charisma.

2. Christian is the veteran.

3. Did i mention Orton is boring?

Bennyladd1
06-20-2011, 01:56 PM
if you had to skip most the match how do you know christian carried him?

Lol, just re read my original post, before you try to be a smart ass (and fail) read more carefully, i said christian carries orton in their "matches" not the match at capitol punishment, which means im referring to their feud in general, do you understand what i am saying to you right now?

shambo2k9
06-20-2011, 02:20 PM
Lol, just re read my original post, before you try to be a smart ass (and fail) read more carefully, i said christian carries orton in their "matches" not the match at capitol punishment, which means im referring to their feud in general, do you understand what i am saying to you right now?

im happy that you know what you are referring too, its a shame you had to re read your own message to realize that. unfortunately randy orton has more charisma than christian. randy orton is todays jake the snake roberts. christian is todays koko b ware.


simplez.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/12/30/article-1239253-07A3F235000005DC-145_468x342.jpg

Steve Austin
06-20-2011, 03:12 PM
im pretty sure this is a reply ^http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRe0QcW3CMuMetkXrcg77xg7yEUP8tZE Pl-P9LCaWObFvKXv-Yojg&t=1

Well played sir but that only took a few seconds so I still saved time ;) BTW this zing thing seems to be catching on, I've seen it posted a couple times on here or was that all you?

AOF666
06-20-2011, 03:14 PM
I agree with this thread. For 2 weeks Mike Chioda became Dick Tracy. Then last night he missed his foot under the ropes. He can find a phone but didn't see Christian's foot. I think kids had a better memory they would be thinking the same thing.

maar13
06-20-2011, 03:37 PM
you do realise thos is a wrestlemania build up storyline.

I do realize that, but the thing here is that, but the thing is that unless they are going to give someone (not me, the character that is losing) hope, the point starts to become dull. I mean, right know you can't have Orton VS Christian every month, yes match of the night if you will, but at the same time again and again it goes with the same thing, and this match was no different not even on the way they put it together.

I mean you can try to build up something all you want but if you damage one side enough, people start fading away from it.


unfortunately randy orton has more charisma than christian. randy orton is todays jake the snake roberts. christian is todays koko b ware.



Don't you think you are exaggerating here? I mean, Christian is KoKo B. Ware? that is just BS and nope, Randy is no Jake Roberts at all. Seriously just because he is the Viper and The other was the Snake does note relate them at all, only because it was referenced in a video game does not relate them at all.

The styles are different and the psychology used by Roberts does not relate tot he one used by Randy since also the Wrestling styles and times are different.

I can give you that Orton has more charisma than Christian or has been built that way, but the comparisons are just lame.

shambo2k9
06-20-2011, 04:12 PM
I do realize that, but the thing here is that, but the thing is that unless they are going to give someone (not me, the character that is losing) hope, the point starts to become dull. I mean, right know you can't have Orton VS Christian every month, yes match of the night if you will, but at the same time again and again it goes with the same thing, and this match was no different not even on the way they put it together.

I mean you can try to build up something all you want but if you damage one side enough, people start fading away from it.



Don't you think you are exaggerating here? I mean, Christian is KoKo B. Ware? that is just BS and nope, Randy is no Jake Roberts at all. Seriously just because he is the Viper and The other was the Snake does note relate them at all, only because it was referenced in a video game does not relate them at all.

The styles are different and the psychology used by Roberts does not relate tot he one used by Randy since also the Wrestling styles and times are different.

I can give you that Orton has more charisma than Christian or has been built that way, but the comparisons are just lame.

i beg to differ... go back and watch a jake the snake match, not just the match itself but the way he walks to the ring, the way he interacts with his opponent. its very much the same.

as for the christian koko reference that was just off the top of my head, as much as i like christian he will never be a top draw star. thats where that reference came from. he just hasnt got it... hes got TNA it... but TNA it starts with sh.

Steve Austin
06-20-2011, 04:19 PM
i beg to differ... go back and watch a jake the snake match, not just the match itself but the way he walks to the ring, the way he interacts with his opponent. its very much the same.

as for the christian koko reference that was just off the top of my head, as much as i like christian he will never be a top draw star. thats where that reference came from. he just hasnt got it... hes got TNA it... but TNA it starts with sh.

I'd have to disagree on that I think Christian is main event material and IMO he has already proved it but what you said was very smooth.

Yano88
06-20-2011, 05:06 PM
Christian IS a top wrestler no matter what company he is in...

The thing is that the Little Jimmys do not know who Christian is and are fascinated by the awesome viper... the one that does the RKO... the Legend Killer.... the one with awesome tatoos... the one with an almost perfect physique..

What was his name again?? Oh right... Randy Orton!

That's why Christian cannot beat Orton... Seeing Christian defeat the viper can be gold for those fan, like myself, that are a little older then little jimmys and know about Christian's career...

But since the 80% of WWE viewers is made of little jimmys is better to keep Orton champ or the kids will start crying if they see their hero, Cena2, lose the title...