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Scottland
09-27-2010, 11:29 PM
Randy Orton.

Yes, Randy Orton is the best thing in the WWE. Say what you want but 2010 is truly the beginning of the Orton Era (especially since Orton just signed a 10 year deal with WWE earlier in the year). Orton is at the age when most guys are going to hit there peak & Orton is well on his way to become the "it" guy in the wrestling world. This turn of him becoming a tweener/anti-hero type is the best thing for both the WWE & Randy himself. Orton has that "Attitude Era" persona. He has mixture of Austin & Rock in him in terms of persona & in-ring skillset. I know some have said Orton should stay heel but no...he shouldn't. Orton may have a heel-like persona but so did Stone Cold & The Rock who were both really tweener/anti-hero types but mixed it at times being a semi-babyface-like persona & a heel-like persona but were most successful & at there peaks when they were just plain out-and-out tweeners. Randy Orton becoming a tweener is already showing the crowd has been wanting this badly & he's getting loudest pops as of late let alone RKO signs are all over the place in the areana crowd. Sure, John Cena is "Vince's poster child" of the WWE but Randy Orton is the real star & the real "it" guy.

Also, the report of Orton being "unhappy" with his character is false through-and-through. Hell, Randy Orton is still heel-like but just a tweener & more bad@$$ which is again the best thing for Orton but truth be told, no matter what they do to Orton's character from here on out he's going to be an ultimate fan favorite especially since he's getting loud pops no matter who he RKO's & that includes Cena.

Kashdinero
09-28-2010, 03:23 AM
The best thing about orton being the top face is, now they will probably make Cena the top heel. Although they've clashed MAAAANNNY times before, the reversals of roles would change things dramatically.
I remember reading an interview with hogan where he said that soon the wwe would be able to change cena & orton and the fans would accept it... IMO that time
is now!!
Then again most of the fans who boo cena would probably cheer him should he turn
heel... Oh the irony

Getting back to orton don't you think it's about time he graced the silver screen. I mean, surely they couldn't be worse than cena's...
The big question is though, where would this leave a certain owners son in law?

shanethewolf
09-28-2010, 05:08 AM
I might've agreed with the title when he was a heel, but his run as a face is almost as painful as watching AJ Styles as a heel. Actually, I lie, nothing is that bad. :) But still, Orton is a natural heel and plays both the cocky and smug type of heel and the psychopathic heel absolutely perfectly.

The problem with the WWE is they let the crowd pops influence their heels and faces. In my opinion, Steve Austin was a much better heel than he was a face, but because the fans cheered for him WWE decided they should cash in on the merchandise sales and turn him into a fan favourite. It was all good while he was beating up Vince McMahon, but after that was done with good guy Steve really got boring.

I just hate the way the WWE have to make everything so black and white, so organised and predictable. They fail to understand that some people actually like cheering for the bad guys. I was a huge fan of Orton the heel, but I'm just not interested in him any more.

Murphdogg4
09-28-2010, 06:16 AM
I might've agreed with the title when he was a heel, but his run as a face is almost as painful as watching AJ Styles as a heel. Actually, I lie, nothing is that bad. :) But still, Orton is a natural heel and plays both the cocky and smug type of heel and the psychopathic heel absolutely perfectly.

The problem with the WWE is they let the crowd pops influence their heels and faces. In my opinion, Steve Austin was a much better heel than he was a face, but because the fans cheered for him WWE decided they should cash in on the merchandise sales and turn him into a fan favourite. It was all good while he was beating up Vince McMahon, but after that was done with good guy Steve really got boring.

I just hate the way the WWE have to make everything so black and white, so organised and predictable. They fail to understand that some people actually like cheering for the bad guys. I was a huge fan of Orton the heel, but I'm just not interested in him any more.


I agree with you both were better as heels. The problem with the WWE when they turn someone face is that they homgenize them. Make them say the same catch phrases over and over again. Make them do their signature moves very predictably. You can see a RKO coming for miles now.

BaileyRose
09-28-2010, 08:16 AM
EDGE

He got some major pops over the past few years now, but most notably the loudest pop he ever got was back when he returned at the royal rumble as the 30th entry. Even Matt Striker marked out an said, "Oh SHI-" on PG programming which gave me my laughs for that whole entire night. As for Randy Orton he is very nice. I had a really long conversation with him on Twitter about puppies, and I also met him 5 times in person(4 times during his evolution days, and once last year before HHH raided his house with a sledgehammer,) and he used to be extremely ripped. People may hate on Orton just because he is in the main event but I really think you should meet the guy before you start calling him a failure to the WWE. The pops he has been getting recently prove otherwise. I hope he keeps the gold for a good while. I heard recently that creative are wanting to put the belt back on Cena? No!!! I love Cena but it gets boring seeing him going after the title at each an every ppv when he is not away filming a movie.

Also, to my knowledge... Edge played a better psycho than Randy did. I think the way he throws his arms around an bulges out the veins in his neck after a clothesline is kind of stupid looking(talking about the viper). I liked the heel Randy that was apart of Rated RKO where he had loads of personality more. Now they wont let him showcase that. When I used to hang out backstage during 2002 with my Uncle Mark (He met hogan in florida an the two became friends) so Hulkster got me an my uncle backstage as guests. The pops back then were phenomenal, especially when Kane returned! It was a happy moment for me. Edge was even there visiting backstage an he gave me a pair of his sunglasses. =/ RIP UNCLE MARK!!

Verdammung
09-28-2010, 08:54 AM
I'm happy as long as Orton isn't booked like a coward. Legacy was a terrible time for me because every Orton match would either end up in a DQ or Orton losing to the face. Fact is, if Orton can't be a full-fledged heel and dominant, I'd rather have tweener/anti-hero and dominant. One thing that will not work for sure is Orton as a face.

SilverGhost
09-28-2010, 09:11 AM
Isn't Orton having a problem being a babyface? He said he would rather be a full heel than tweener.

I admit that Orton and face don't mix.

IPEEINTHESHOWER
09-28-2010, 10:19 AM
Please allow me to give my infinite wisdom on this matter. I feel the hate coming my way before i even get done writing this post. I like professionalism in people whether they work at a gas station or in the rasslin business. Mr RKO has shown very little and that's sad. When Kofi was in the wrong position for the RKO Randy yelling at him on national tv just showed his true colors. No one on God's green earth is perfect and that includes Mr. RKO. I'm all for second chances but this has happened more than once. Randy acting like a bad ass and tearing up hotel rooms tells me even more about the guy even though i hear he hasn't done this in awhile and that's a good thing. When Mr. RKO complains about another talent kiss their push goodbye and i can only assume he has friends in high places (HHH). As for Randy's rassling ability IMO its ok at best. When i see him on tv or in person i can call out his moves before he does them. It goes like this, punch, punch, kick, kick, RKO, go for the pin. As for Mr. RKO being a face or a heel it doesn't matter, he is still the same character either way. When people compare him to one of the greats like Austin or the Rock i just laugh my ass off. He couldn't hold up those two jock straps if he tried. Randy is the viper, he is not the beer drinking, don't take shit from anyone Austin, nor his he the most electrifying man in sports entertainment THE GREAT ONE. In time he might be in the same class as both of those greats but that road is a long and tedious one. Very few make it that big and no one will ever surpass them. The bar was set way to high. I like the RKO move it is a classic for sure and it can come out of nowhere which makes it not only a classic but one of the best rasslin moves ever. My point is with Randy right now their is way to much sizzle and not enough steak. U MAD???

For the select few that want to know more about the man that freely admits he is a shameless shower squirter I have updated my profile and by all means please click on the (about me) tab at the top of the profile page. It will give you some understanding of the man, the legend, the one and only IPEEINTHESHOWER. U MAD???

BaileyRose
09-28-2010, 12:16 PM
Please allow me to give my infinite wisdom on this matter. I feel the hate coming my way before i even get done writing this post. I like professionalism in people whether they work at a gas station or in the rasslin business. Mr RKO has shown very little and that's sad. When Kofi was in the wrong position for the RKO Randy yelling at him on national tv just showed his true colors. No one on God's green earth is perfect and that includes Mr. RKO. I'm all for second chances but this has happened more than once. Randy acting like a bad ass and tearing up hotel rooms tells me even more about the guy even though i hear he hasn't done this in awhile and that's a good thing. When Mr. RKO complains about another talent kiss their push goodbye and i can only assume he has friends in high places (HHH). As for Randy's rassling ability IMO its ok at best. When i see him on tv or in person i can call out his moves before he does them. It goes like this, punch, punch, kick, kick, RKO, go for the pin. As for Mr. RKO being a face or a heel it doesn't matter, he is still the same character either way. When people compare him to one of the greats like Austin or the Rock i just laugh my ass off. He couldn't hold up those two jock straps if he tried. Randy is the viper, he is not the beer drinking, don't take shit from anyone Austin, nor his he the most electrifying man in sports entertainment THE GREAT ONE. In time he might be in the same class as both of those greats but that road is a long and tedious one. Very few make it that big and no one will ever surpass them. The bar was set way to high. I like the RKO move it is a classic for sure and it can come out of nowhere which makes it not only a classic but one of the best rasslin moves ever. My point is with Randy right now their is way to much sizzle and not enough steak. U MAD???

For the select few that want to know more about the man that is called IPEEINTHESHOWER I have updated my profile and by all means please click on the (about me) tab at the top of the profile page. It will give you some understanding of the man, the legend, the one and only IPEEINTHESHOWER. U MAD???

I agree that Randy Orton will never reach the calibur of Rock an Austin, but he is still pretty darn huge in the WWE at the moment. Some of his moves do infact mirror off some of Austins moves which led people to begin making comparisions of the two. I really have no idea how Rocky fits into the matter. I think in time Randy will mold into his very own legendary status inside of the ring despite his well known attitude problems. Randy has already said he would be retiring when he reaches his 40s which is 9 or 10 years away? (: I would be well into my 30s by then!


I have grown to like you as just that mysterious guy who has funny opinions that pees in his shower.

wallyman
09-28-2010, 02:12 PM
fortune is the best thing going right now....they are without a doubt the best thing right now why bcuz flair is steppin back a bit and aj styles has stepped out...he is a legitimate heel and i think hes doing a good job and improvin on the mic...he was painful to watch but litle by litle hes gettin there

Robstar
09-28-2010, 04:11 PM
fortune is the best thing going right now....they are without a doubt the best thing right now why bcuz flair is steppin back a bit and aj styles has stepped out...he is a legitimate heel and i think hes doing a good job and improvin on the mic...he was painful to watch but litle by litle hes gettin there

SMH. Firstly, this is a WWE forum and a WWE question.

Secondly - fortune sucks ass. Individually, their members are good, but the idea, the name and the execution of the formation of this stable bites big time. AJ is an idiot for letting himself get involved, but he is just another corn-fed hick from Carolina (I'm looking at the Hardy's here) who can only benefit from someone doing the mic work for him. As for Flair, he's great on the mic, when I can understand what the hell he's saying! Much like Dusty Rhodes....

Anyway, back to WWE now, ok?

djsoulslayer
09-28-2010, 04:17 PM
I disagree on the assumption that Orton is "ok at best". I feel like he is a really talented in-ring competitor and on screen character. He is able to get over with the fans no matter whether he's an heel or face and I can stand watching his matches much longer than others. A few things I don't like about Orton is:

1.) This new Superman trip he has been on as of late. I especially hate it when he is in the ring and he start going in to those mentally unstable, handicapped-like convulsions. It scares me.

2.) The arrogant, self-absorbed, I-want-it-my-way attitude I've been made to believe he has. I say it that way because I don't know him personally. All I have to go on it what I've witnessed on tv. And we all know, television doesn't exactly paint the most accurate picture of people.

merhardt03
09-28-2010, 04:27 PM
To IPEEINTHESHOWER... You are the best thing on this website. Youve never insulted me yet.... Y lol. Anyway Orton is doing a great job. The tweener gimmick is fun to watch. Hes got a way to go to be in Austins class tho.. THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD

Daniel Bryan
09-28-2010, 04:46 PM
fortune is the best thing going right now....they are without a doubt the best thing right now why bcuz flair is steppin back a bit and aj styles has stepped out...he is a legitimate heel and i think hes doing a good job and improvin on the mic...he was painful to watch but litle by litle hes gettin there

first this is about WWE not TNA or AJ Styles
second AJ Styles is horrible
third the only thing more horrible than AJ Styles as a heel is fortune itself

IrkenInvader
09-28-2010, 04:52 PM
To the guy who said "isn't it time for Orton grace the silver screen." Orton was suppossed to be the star of The Marine 2, but right before they started shooting was when Randy broke his collar bone. So they replaced him with Ted DiBiase.

I think John Morrison will be the best thing in a few more years. He just needs to work on his promo abilities. I swear he is the new HBK, if he breaks his back and comesback from it, everyone else is going to see it.

The Miz is going to be the biggest heel we've seen in a long time. I'm telling you people will hate him more than they hated Punk after he screwed Hardy.

Evan Bourne would be big right now, if they would send him to smackdown. Thats where he belongs, its a pure highflyer type of show. Raw is more for showman types.

WilliamJames
09-28-2010, 05:16 PM
To the guy who said "isn't it time for Orton grace the silver screen." Orton was suppossed to be the star of The Marine 2, but right before they started shooting was when Randy broke his collar bone. So they replaced him with Ted DiBiase.

I think John Morrison will be the best thing in a few more years. He just needs to work on his promo abilities. I swear he is the new HBK, if he breaks his back and comesback from it, everyone else is going to see it.

The Miz is going to be the biggest heel we've seen in a long time. I'm telling you people will hate him more than they hated Punk after he screwed Hardy.

Evan Bourne would be big right now, if they would send him to smackdown. Thats where he belongs, its a pure highflyer type of show. Raw is more for showman types.

You took every word out of my mouth about Miz an Morrison. Those two have worked their butts off to get to where they are. Morrison is obviously moving toward the main event (slowly) while The Miz could be in the main event at any moment now.

An about Evan Bourne.. I entirely agree with you. He could have had some wicked feuds with Kofi Kingston or Rey Mysterio. I think he will go to SD! during the next draft though..

Justdawg08
09-28-2010, 07:38 PM
I have been a big Orton basher.. but I think his time is now and he deserves it.

Look if the crowd is waving their arms... chanting RKO... jumping up and down... in anticipation of your finisher... there is no doubt in my mind that he should be where he is right now.

He's in the perfect situation. You people got it all wrong.. heel/face... those are just words... there is no limit to what a heel can do and there is no limit to what a face can do. It's just a classification. Stop worrying about whether he's heel or face... because it don't really matter... what matters is that he is.. Randy Orton.. and you mark out for his RKOs.

rstar221
09-28-2010, 08:35 PM
Michael Cole's NXT commentary is the best thing in WWE right now. Now where's my gong.

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SilverGhost
09-28-2010, 09:20 PM
Michael Cole's NXT commentary is the best thing in WWE right now. Now where's my gong.

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I should beat Cole senseless like this.

Scottland
09-28-2010, 11:12 PM
I don't think it matters what Cena is whether face or heel he's always going to be a mixed reaction towards him. There is no in between with Cena & most of Cena's fans are kids & women while a guy like Orton has really a much larger fanbase when you think about it simply because kids, women & men (men being the factor there) like him let alone especially now, Orton is on cloud 9 with the fans. Hell, the crowd was chanting "punt" when Jericho was down. When Orton did the punt to Jericho it got a nice size pop from the crowd.

SilverGhost
09-28-2010, 11:15 PM
Probably showing signs that Orton will be the new posterboy for the WWE. For now....

Scottland
09-28-2010, 11:40 PM
I've seen some praises on these boards for some of the young upcoming talent BUT I must say the young upcoming talent isn't all that promising.

John Morrison: Morrison is an athletic in-ring performer no question about it but his promo work is significantly insufficient let alone he doesn't have the charasmatic personality which is something you either have or don't have as an individual. I've heard the comparisons of him & HBK. I'm sorry but Morrison doesn't hold a candle to HBK (truly, no one does. HBK is a one of a kind). The only comparison would be his athletism but other then that...Morrison isn't the next HBK by any margin of the imagination. In any other era of wrestling, Morrison would a mid-card performer is entire career. Saying Morrison is the next best thing...is a stretch especially when guys like Orton & Cena (who are going to be the main guys for the next decade & so fourth) are around the same age as Morrison. Like I said earlier, Orton is going to his peak within the next year or so which will last for sometime. There is a reason why WWE signed Orton to a 10 year deal. He's going to be the face of the WWE down the road. To be honest, after Orton...the next best thing hasn't arrived yet.

The Miz: Miz is a moderate in-ring performer with pretty good promo assets. I don't think Miz is a prime time main eventer though. He's like Morrison, in any other era in wrestling Miz is just a mid-card talent. He's a decent heel character (nothing special) & Miz will probably win the WWE Championship or WWE World Heavyweight Championship down the line but I think it's more because WWE is desperate on talent & The Miz is passable enough to maybe be a top level guy in the right situations.

Evan Bourne: Evan will never be a top guy. Evan has the athletic in-ring ability of a highflyer but other then that...Bourne has nothing else going for him let alone the dude is just goofy looking especially his facial expressions. It's a shame too because the athletism is there but he's really nothing but a jobber. What puts Rey Mysterio on as such a top level guy is because he's good with promos let alone his in-ring ability is superb. Bourne is good in the in-ring material but fails in the promo material & again that comes with charasma which is something you either have or don't have.

Robstar
09-29-2010, 12:39 AM
To IPEEINTHESHOWER... You are the best thing on this website. Youve never insulted me yet.... Y lol. Anyway Orton is doing a great job. The tweener gimmick is fun to watch. Hes got a way to go to be in Austins class tho.. THE TRUTH WILL BE TOLD

Geez, don't encourage him! Listen if he doesn't insult you soon, give me a holler and I'll insult you ok? I know some people have that domination fetish and who are we to judge? lol ;)

As for Orton "gracing" the silver screen........uuuuuuummmm, NO! What a terrible idea, the guy can barely do a convincing promo - and he's gotten better! WWE has to stop making movies for themselves. Have you ever noticed how every other thing Vince does outside of WWE falls flat on it's face? That's because he's sailing in his percieved "unsinkable ship" known as WWE and he thinks he's a friggin genius with ideas. You're not Vince. Not even close.

SilverGhost
09-29-2010, 12:46 AM
Orton in a few movies is way too much IMO....

Kashdinero
10-05-2010, 05:25 AM
Geez, don't encourage him! Listen if he doesn't insult you soon, give me a holler and I'll insult you ok? I know some people have that domination fetish and who are we to judge? lol ;)

As for Orton "gracing" the silver screen........uuuuuuummmm, NO! What a terrible idea, the guy can barely do a convincing promo - and he's gotten better! WWE has to stop making movies for themselves. Have you ever noticed how every other thing Vince does outside of WWE falls flat on it's face? That's because he's sailing in his percieved "unsinkable ship" known as WWE and he thinks he's a friggin genius with ideas. You're not Vince. Not even close.

I agree that an orton movie would probably suck as much all the other tripe wwe films puts out (I don't know as I've never really seen one of their movies) I just think good or bad it would be a bit of a boost for his career (not that he really needs one).

IrkenInvader
07-11-2011, 09:07 PM
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