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HCollins-TNA1
03-09-2011, 01:07 AM
People always have dream matches..... Just wonder what if this would or could ever happen who would win??? All in knowing it will never happen cause of lots of factors that is already known!
Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Ole Anderson, Tully Blanchard vs AJ Styles, Robert Roode, James Storm, Kazerian

In my opinion the Horseman will sale Fortune good, but the Horsemen will end up winning probably having Kaz submit to a Flair figure 4??

willos19991
03-09-2011, 01:52 AM
actually i would like more to see evolution vs the 4 horsemen and have flair as the referee, but yea the 4 horsemen would make fortune look like a million bucks

brianjones90
03-09-2011, 02:31 AM
That's not even the best Horsemen line up.Ric Flair,Arn Anderson,Tully Blanchard & Barry Windham are the best group.With Lex Luger than maybe Ole Anderson.That match is a massacre in the waiting.I mean Arn & Tully are meaner,tougher & smarter wrestlers.Kazerian isn't worthy to carry Barry's Jock and come on do i have to even menchen the greatest wrestler to ever grace the ring?As for Evolution?Flair in his prime would pick HHH apart,Arn is the most under rated singles wrestler in the world and well.....Sid would powerbomb Batista to hell.Ric should go back to WWE and regroup a new stable with Joe Henning,Cody Roads,Ted Dibeasie & Mason ryan.

Justdawg08
03-09-2011, 03:48 AM
1.) Evolution
2.) Fortune
3.) The Four Horseman
4.) The Radicalz

Just cause the Four Horseman were first... doesn't mean they were best... look at the amount of World Titles amongst Evolution...

I also believe Fortune are better WRESTLERS than The Four Horseman... MORE ATHLETIC...

Lowki
03-09-2011, 06:40 AM
No way! Horseman, Evolution, Radicalz, Fortune.

AJ, Kaz, Beer Money v Benoit, Guerrero, Saturn, Malenko - no way are fortune better wrestlers than these! When you talk technical wrestlers; besides Saturn the other three are always up there among the best.

Like it's been stated, any incarnation of the Horsemen would dominate. Arn Anderson, Flair, Windham, Vicious (without Ole as manager) in 1990 would have too much Size,power,charisma,technicality for Fortune to handle. AJ and Roode would be a fair match for the horsemen by today's standards, but Kaz and Storm are overrated.

Evolution in their prime would have the best chance against three out of four horsemen. There were only THREE members imo (flair was a manager/mentor role). So HHH, Batista, Orton vs Arn/Windham/Flair or Vicious (any 3) - It's more evenly matched because Batista is there to add more power but i still think the horsemen were better.

samoan619
03-09-2011, 07:25 AM
1.) Evolution
2.) Fortune
3.) The Four Horseman
4.) The Radicalz

Just cause the Four Horseman were first... doesn't mean they were best... look at the amount of World Titles amongst Evolution...

I also believe Fortune are better WRESTLERS than The Four Horseman... MORE ATHLETIC...

Just because the Four Horsemen were first, does not mean that's the reason why people chose them..

hystrix
03-09-2011, 09:38 AM
Just because the Four Horsemen were first, does not mean that's the reason why people chose them..

/Agree.

No one will ever compare to the Four Horsemen. They were the greatset stable ever... Not that Fortune is that bad. There are alot of good stables out there, but the Horsemen will be remembered forever. Check it out 25 years later we are still talking about them.

PrimusSucks
03-09-2011, 10:14 AM
I think Fortune is the worst of the 4, and I feel bad saying that, I like all 4 wrestlers in Fortune, but I don't see them being memorable 10 or even 5 years from now, where The Horsemen and Evolution will go down in history as being one of the most memorable groups ever, and The Radicalz are extremely underrated as a stable.

HCollins-TNA1
03-09-2011, 10:41 AM
I think Fortune is the worst of the 4, and I feel bad saying that, I like all 4 wrestlers in Fortune, but I don't see them being memorable 10 or even 5 years from now, where The Horsemen and Evolution will go down in history as being one of the most memorable groups ever, and The Radicalz are extremely underrated as a stable.

The thing is Fortune are better as heels, but TNA don't really need them as heels right now!!!! Sure AJ could and can be heel or face anytime as well as Kaz and Beer Money too....
Also no one can be as good as the orginal Horsemen they sat a standard.... Ric as the leader, Arn as the enforcer, Ole as the Tag team specialist Veteran leader, and Tully as the young hot shot...... Much like how TNA mirriored Fortune to be!!!!

But if i have to rank these groups.
1 The Orginal 4 Horsemen
2 the Dangerous Allanice
3 Fotune
4 Evolution

Bralon23
03-09-2011, 10:59 AM
I know you guys are talking about 3-4 man stables, but I think a tag team deserves an honorable mention. One of the best stables, in my opinion, would have to be the Power Trip with Triple H and Stone Cold. They could've done so much if Triple H didn't destroy his knee. I always wished that they'd be brought back together after the fact. The way they were destroying people was classic and it was such a surprise when they were brought together.

Rich Cranium
03-09-2011, 11:01 AM
I think the Radicalz could beat Fortune easily!

HCollins-TNA1
03-09-2011, 11:11 AM
I think the Radicalz could beat Fortune easily!

The thing is Radicalz wasn't really a team they all came in together... maybe tagged up one or two nights and son they was seperated....
Saturn was being made a joke cross dressing and having a mop as a girlfriend....
Dean Melenko was the ladies man.....
Eddie and Beniot probably was the only 2 WWE cared about as they was the only 2 who really got a push!!!!

willos19991
03-09-2011, 12:20 PM
fortune wont be remember there are bigger stables way before them like the 4 horseman, dx, nwo, the nation of domination, legion of doom, the dudleys, the radicalz, evolution that had better overall wrestlers and that made a bigger impact in the industry, is to early to say if fortune will ever be anything

justin sane
03-09-2011, 12:23 PM
where is Paul Roma?

jethro
03-09-2011, 12:39 PM
I followed 4 Horsemen Flair,Double A,Steve Mongo,Benoit and Malenko version and I think this version of Horsemen will defeat Fortune.

CobraNightviper
03-09-2011, 12:58 PM
lol pretty Paul Roma he didn't really fit the horse men I was getting ready to mention him for a laugh.
where is Paul Roma?

Lowki
03-09-2011, 01:09 PM
Oh shit, Here coms mongo!

lostbot101
03-09-2011, 03:28 PM
As long as were talking stable here .

1. nWo .because of the impact they had on wrestling both good and bad
2. The 4 Horsemen they were still awesome in the mid 90's
3. the Dangerous Allanice .was good
4.The Radicalz were some of the best wrestlers that ever came out of the wrestling business
5.Fortune. there Ok but if anyone pick them over the 4 horsemen. it must be the newer fans are something. the people don't have much of a personality on Fortune.

I would have said dx but I think they were more of a tag team

CobraNightviper
03-09-2011, 04:16 PM
ahh Mongo another member of the Horsemen who sucked and so did his finisher the mongo spike there were alot of sucky members now that I think of it.
Oh shit, Here coms mongo!

CobraNightviper
03-09-2011, 04:18 PM
wait a second this is suppose to be a who's better thread not who sucks worse so nevermind what I said above this^^^

thedag
03-09-2011, 04:30 PM
freebirds beat all. thread is done now.

lostbot101
03-09-2011, 04:55 PM
freebirds beat all. thread is done now.

I can't beileve I forgot about them. but your right

Rich Cranium
03-09-2011, 05:37 PM
freebirds beat all. thread is done now.

However, the Four Horsemen and the other factions being discussed are 4 and the Freebirds were 3 so your point is invalid :)

KayfabeIsDead
03-09-2011, 05:42 PM
i think if you go by the evolution of wrestling and each of the wrestlers move sets
Fortune would destroy the Horsemen but Evolution would beat the crap out of Fortune
i think the best match between the two would be Benoit,AA,Pillman,Flair vs Fortune
but i didnt really watch wCw in the 80s

HCollins-TNA1
03-09-2011, 09:01 PM
However, the Four Horsemen and the other factions being discussed are 4 and the Freebirds were 3 so your point is invalid :)

not if you add Kubaki

HCollins-TNA1
03-09-2011, 09:07 PM
But still I say the Orginal Horsemen sat the Standard..... I mean they had all the gold World title, TV, national tag titles....
Then the 2nd version of the Horsemen would be next...... World, world tag and US title....
then Dangerous Allainace where they dominated with most of all the belts world tag, US and TV.....
Then Fortune where they held most of all the belts in TNA just recently TV, X-Division,and World tag....
The Evolution where 3 of the 4 where champions world and world tag.....
Radicalz can't say they where great like i said they wasn't really kept togther.....

thedag
03-09-2011, 09:15 PM
But still I say the Orginal Horsemen sat the Standard..... I mean they had all the gold World title, TV, national tag titles....
Then the 2nd version of the Horsemen would be next...... World, world tag and US title....
then Dangerous Allainace where they dominated with most of all the belts world tag, US and TV.....
Then Fortune where they held most of all the belts in TNA just recently TV, X-Division,and World tag....
The Evolution where 3 of the 4 where champions world and world tag.....
Radicalz can't say they where great like i said they wasn't really kept togther.....

Fortune isn't anywhere near the Horsemen level. Fortune may have titles but at the end of the day there TNA titles. Horsemen hold real titles.

HCollins-TNA1
03-09-2011, 09:22 PM
Fortune isn't anywhere near the Horsemen level. Fortune may have titles but at the end of the day there TNA titles. Horsemen hold real titles.

How can i forget the Main Event Mafia.....

HCollins-TNA1
03-09-2011, 09:25 PM
Fortune isn't anywhere near the Horsemen level. Fortune may have titles but at the end of the day there TNA titles. Horsemen hold real titles.

Hate to disagree..... also in no way am i saying Fortune is better then the Horsemen....
All i am doing is comparing them...... It don't matter if they holding titles in the crappist Independent or not.... The fact is Fortune hold titles and TNA is the 2nd biggest federation in the USA....
And Fortune was created to resemble the Horsemen as well....

body slam
03-09-2011, 10:48 PM
To say Fortune is not in the league of the 4 Horsemen may be a understaement. Break it down match buy match.

Tully vs Kaz - great match up

Arn and Ole vs Beer Money - Not quit a 5 star mtch but damn close.

Flair vs AJ - 5 star wrestling gold!!!!!!!!

Who would win? Who really cares? It would make for some great wrestling.

Trips88
03-09-2011, 10:50 PM
People always have dream matches..... Just wonder what if this would or could ever happen who would win??? All in knowing it will never happen cause of lots of factors that is already known!
Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Ole Anderson, Tully Blanchard vs AJ Styles, Robert Roode, James Storm, Kazerian

In my opinion the Horseman will sale Fortune good, but the Horsemen will end up winning probably having Kaz submit to a Flair figure 4??

Ok so Flair is dragging his name through the mad by being in TNA so you want the rest of the Horsemen to do the same thing? GAY

HCollins-TNA1
03-10-2011, 12:34 AM
To say Fortune is not in the league of the 4 Horsemen may be a understaement. Break it down match buy match.

Tully vs Kaz - great match up

Arn and Ole vs Beer Money - Not quit a 5 star mtch but damn close.

Flair vs AJ - 5 star wrestling gold!!!!!!!!

Who would win? Who really cares? It would make for some great wrestling.

Exactly made to be mirrior images!!!!!

HCollins-TNA1
03-10-2011, 12:37 AM
Ok so Flair is dragging his name through the mad by being in TNA so you want the rest of the Horsemen to do the same thing? GAY

Its all about the money in the end...... and that why Flair is there.....
With TNA he can work Indy bookings and TNA and make the money..... In case you forgot Flair have went trought 5 or 6 marriages since he been wrestling!!!!!
Actually I wouldn't mind seeing some of the former Horsemen come to TNA again!!!!!

thedag
03-10-2011, 02:39 AM
To say Fortune is not in the league of the 4 Horsemen may be a understaement. Break it down match buy match.

Tully vs Kaz - great match up

Arn and Ole vs Beer Money - Not quit a 5 star mtch but damn close.

Flair vs AJ - 5 star wrestling gold!!!!!!!!

Who would win? Who really cares? It would make for some great wrestling.

ok the horsemen can go 60 minutes. Fortune can't go 20 minutes. Fortune blow through the move set in 5 minutes. theres more to wrestle then matches too.all 4 of the horsemen can cut a killer promo. Fortune has one guy with mic skills and thats Roode. don't even try to say AJ has mic skills. the horsemen will live for ever. Fortune will be dead before summer. you're comparing wrestling gods to low midcarders. the horsemen had real titles. Fortune has TNA titles that means nothing.

Lowki
03-10-2011, 06:55 AM
If Fortune were in the 1980s they would have been lost in the shuffle. Robert roode would be the only one that could have made it back then due to his physique. Horsemen were winning titles when they meant something, TNA titles are nothing compared to them.

HCollins-TNA1
03-10-2011, 08:20 PM
ok the horsemen can go 60 minutes. Fortune can't go 20 minutes. Fortune blow through the move set in 5 minutes. theres more to wrestle then matches too.all 4 of the horsemen can cut a killer promo. Fortune has one guy with mic skills and thats Roode. don't even try to say AJ has mic skills. the horsemen will live for ever. Fortune will be dead before summer. you're comparing wrestling gods to low midcarders. the horsemen had real titles. Fortune has TNA titles that means nothing.

WE are dealing with different times here the 80s and the 2000s/2010s...... Very different time Sure the Horsemen was the most dominate team or stable of the 80s...... But Fortune is their mirror image........ Pretty much exactly their mirror image......
Isn't arguing The Horsemen would pick Fortune apart but yet will make them look good while doing it..... I'm sure all 8 will hit their respective moves only to end it with Arn DDTing AJ Styles and Flair slapping on the Figure 4...
AJ will Pale kick Arn... Ole will come in with gourd buster on AJ, Kaz will hit Fade to black, Tully will hit the sling shot suplex, james Storm hits the last call super kick Flair come in with some knife edge chops Roode throught Flair into the ropes and connect with double R spine buster, Arn hits roode with a Double A spinebuster.... AJ throws Flair intot the corner... Flair goes over but come down on his own to be caught by AJ who does the Styles Clash... The ref is distracted trying to restore order Arn DDT AJ and Flair slaps on the figure 4......

body slam
03-10-2011, 08:55 PM
ok the horsemen can go 60 minutes. Fortune can't go 20 minutes. Fortune blow through the move set in 5 minutes. theres more to wrestle then matches too.all 4 of the horsemen can cut a killer promo. Fortune has one guy with mic skills and thats Roode. don't even try to say AJ has mic skills. the horsemen will live for ever. Fortune will be dead before summer. you're comparing wrestling gods to low midcarders. the horsemen had real titles. Fortune has TNA titles that means nothing.

The Horsemen will live forever because the were the origionals and they were that good. That good for the 80's. Like someone else mentioned it was a different era. Alot of todays fans of thats been fallowing the sport since 2000 would most likely call the 80's style of wrestling slow and boring.


If Fortune were in the 1980s they would have been lost in the shuffle. Robert roode would be the only one that could have made it back then due to his physique. Horsemen were winning titles when they meant something, TNA titles are nothing compared to them.

Did you ever see the physiques of the Horsemen and the average 80's wrestler. No one was buffed, cut, ripped, chizzelled and jacked the way guys are today. Ok maybe Lugar. If anything Fortune might be to in shape. With the titles meaning something again different era. As far as being lost in the suffle if the horesmen would have gotten their start in this era they would be lost in the shuffle of the WWE or in the same spot as Fortune in TNA.

Lowki
03-11-2011, 08:42 AM
They were lost in the WWF shuffle in the 80s. The Horsemen, like Sting, made their name outside of the WWF.
Only Luger and Sid really made anything of themselves in the WWF.