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THE_CRIPPLER
02-18-2011, 06:48 AM
Heres the list guys.. tell me what you think.. i never watched indys to know so your oppion means more than mine..... plus what you think is the best Independant match in Wrestling history (US Only)

1) Hardys vs. Serial Thrillerz - OMEGA (1/29/99) = 184 Points (2-2-2)
2) Hardys vs. Serial Thrillerz - OMEGA (12/5/98) = 118 Points (3-0-1)
3) Christopher Daniels vs. Mike Modest - APW (1/15/99) = 115 Points (0-3-2)
4) Christopher Daniels vs. Steve Bradley - ECWA "Super 8 '99" (2/27/99 - Finals) = 102 (0-1-0)
5) Surge vs. Willow The Wisp - OMEGA 7/31/98 (2/3 Falls Title vs. Mask) = 98 (1-1-0)
6) Venom/Shane Helms vs. Hardys - OMEGA (7/24/98) = 88
7) Christopher Daniels vs. Matt Hardy - ECWA "Super 8 '99" (2/27/99 - Semis) = 85
8) Willow the Whisp vs. Kid Dynamo - OMEGA (7/24/98) = 73
9) Cactus Jack vs. Eddie Gilbert - Tri State "Summer Sizzler '91" (8/3/91 - 2/3 Falls - Three matches) = 69
10) Sabu vs. Lightning Kid - NWA Grandslam (4/17/93) = 57
11) Heavenly Bodies v. Rock n' Roll Express - SMW "Bluegrass Brawl '94" (4/1/94 Loser Leaves Town Cage Match) = 54
12) Heavenly Bodies vs. Chris Jericho/Lance Storm - SMW "Night of Legends" 13) (8/5/94) = 51
13) Reckless Youth vs. Mike Quackenbush - ECWA (7/18/98) = 51
14) Cactus Jack vs. Eddie Gilbert - Tri State "Autumn Armageddon '90" (9/15/90 - 2/3 Falls) = 48
15) Reckless Youth vs. Lance Diamond vs. Cheetah Master - NWA 2nd Gilbert Memorial (4/12/97) = 47
16) Jeff Jarrett vs. Brian Christopher - USWA (4/93 TV) = 46
17) Lightning Kid vs. Jerry Lynn - Global (2/3 Falls, Light Heavyweight Title) = 46
18) Lightning Kid vs. Jerry Lynn - Global 7/13/91 (Light Heavyweight Title Tourney Finals) = 44
19) Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Christian York vs. Joey Matthews - MCW (3/20/99 - Maryland) = 44
20) Heavenly Bodies vs. T. Smothers/Dirty White Boy - SMW "Superbowl of Wrestling" (8/4/95) = 42 (0-1-0)

Necroyeti
02-18-2011, 10:12 AM
The only one of those I've seen is Heavenly Bodies vs. Jericho/Storm, because it was mentioned in Jericho's first book. I guess it's considered infamous for Jericho only having one good arm (he broke his arm attempting a shooting star press earlier that day) and him doing a crazy bladejob, (a fan supposedly tastes his blood) but I just thought it was an okay match with a shitty finish.

I've always wanted to watch some OMEGA and the ECWA Super 8 tournaments, but they're really hard to find. Everything else on there seems fairly obscure too.

They also have a 90's Japanese indy list, of which I've seen most of the WAR and FMW matches:

1) TAKA Michinoku/Sho Funaki/Dick Togo/Shiryu/Men's Teioh vs. Gran Naniwa/Super Delfin/Tiger Mask IV/Masato Yakushiji/Gran Hamada - M. Pro "3rd Anniversary Show" (10/10/96) - 527 Points (8-8-1)
2) Nobuhiko Takada vs. Vader - UWFi "Pro Wrestling World Tourney '94" (8/18/94 - Finals) - 307 (2-4-5)
3) Ryuji Yamakawa vs. Tomoaki Honma - Big Japan (6/20/99 - Death Match) - 298 (2-0-3)
4) Great Sasuke vs. Magnum Tokyo - Toryumon (2/7/99 - Middleweight Title Tourney Finals) - 296 (1-2-3)
5) Daisuke Ikeda vs. Yuki Ishikawa - BattlARTS Young Generation '99 (8/29/99 - Finals) - 240 (4-1-1)
6) Ultimo Dragon vs. Jushin Liger - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95 - Semis) - 204 (0-0-1)
7) Great Sasuke/ Tiger Mask IV/ Shiryu vs. Super Delfin/ Gran Naniwa/ TAKA Michinoku - M. Pro (3/16/96) - 192 (2-0-1)
8) Hayabusa vs. Mr Gannosuke - FMW 9th Anniversary Show (4/30/98 - Unified Title) - 159 (1-1-0)
9) Rey Misterio, Jr. vs. Psicosis (12/13/95 - Super J Non tourney match) - 156 (0-1-1)
10) Great Sasuke/Gran Hamada/Super Delfin/Gran Naniwa/Tiger Mask IV vs. Dick Togo/Men's Teioh/TAKA Michinoku/Shiryu/Sho Funaki - M. Pro (12/9/96 - Elimination Match) - 144 (0-0-1)
11) TAKA Michinoku vs. Minoru Tanaka - M. Pro/BattlARTS (10/17/99) - 135 (0-2-0)
12) Shiima Nobunaga vs. Magnum Tokyo - Toryumon (2/5/99 - Welterweight Title) - 126
13) Great Sasuke/Gran Hamada/Gran Naniwa/Super Delfin/Masato Yakushiji vs. Teioh/Togo/TAKA/Funaki/Shiryu - M. Pro (12/16/96) - 122 (2-0-1)
14) Taka Michinoku vs. Hayabusa - FMW (11/16/96) - 108 (0-1-0)
15) Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95) - 107
16) Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka - RINGS (6/27/98) - 97 (1-0-2)
17) Shinjiro Otani vs. Ultimo Dragon - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95) - 96 (1-0-0)
18) Nobunaga/Suwa/Fuji vs. Tokyo/Kid/SAITO - Toruymon (2/3/99 - Elimination Match) - 94 (1-1-1)
19) Hayabusa vs. Masato Tanaka - FMW (5/19/98) - 93 (0-1-0)
20) Ultimo Dragon vs. Great Sasuke - WAR "Crush Night" (10/11/96 - J Crown) - 89

Kashdinero
02-19-2011, 04:52 AM
Heres the list guys.. tell me what you think.. i never watched indys to know so your oppion means more than mine..... plus what you think is the best Independant match in Wrestling history (US Only)

1) Hardys vs. Serial Thrillerz - OMEGA (1/29/99) = 184 Points (2-2-2)
2) Hardys vs. Serial Thrillerz - OMEGA (12/5/98) = 118 Points (3-0-1)
3) Christopher Daniels vs. Mike Modest - APW (1/15/99) = 115 Points (0-3-2)
4) Christopher Daniels vs. Steve Bradley - ECWA "Super 8 '99" (2/27/99 - Finals) = 102 (0-1-0)
5) Surge vs. Willow The Wisp - OMEGA 7/31/98 (2/3 Falls Title vs. Mask) = 98 (1-1-0)
6) Venom/Shane Helms vs. Hardys - OMEGA (7/24/98) = 88
7) Christopher Daniels vs. Matt Hardy - ECWA "Super 8 '99" (2/27/99 - Semis) = 85
8) Willow the Whisp vs. Kid Dynamo - OMEGA (7/24/98) = 73
9) Cactus Jack vs. Eddie Gilbert - Tri State "Summer Sizzler '91" (8/3/91 - 2/3 Falls - Three matches) = 69
10) Sabu vs. Lightning Kid - NWA Grandslam (4/17/93) = 57
11) Heavenly Bodies v. Rock n' Roll Express - SMW "Bluegrass Brawl '94" (4/1/94 Loser Leaves Town Cage Match) = 54
12) Heavenly Bodies vs. Chris Jericho/Lance Storm - SMW "Night of Legends" 13) (8/5/94) = 51
13) Reckless Youth vs. Mike Quackenbush - ECWA (7/18/98) = 51
14) Cactus Jack vs. Eddie Gilbert - Tri State "Autumn Armageddon '90" (9/15/90 - 2/3 Falls) = 48
15) Reckless Youth vs. Lance Diamond vs. Cheetah Master - NWA 2nd Gilbert Memorial (4/12/97) = 47
16) Jeff Jarrett vs. Brian Christopher - USWA (4/93 TV) = 46
17) Lightning Kid vs. Jerry Lynn - Global (2/3 Falls, Light Heavyweight Title) = 46
18) Lightning Kid vs. Jerry Lynn - Global 7/13/91 (Light Heavyweight Title Tourney Finals) = 44
19) Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Christian York vs. Joey Matthews - MCW (3/20/99 - Maryland) = 44
20) Heavenly Bodies vs. T. Smothers/Dirty White Boy - SMW "Superbowl of Wrestling" (8/4/95) = 42 (0-1-0)

This is a great list of matches. I've only seen a few of them though, so I can't really argue with it. 90's Indies wrestling was a bit before my time. The first ECWA Super 8 I saw was 2000, which was awesome for the Lowki Vs American Dragon final's. The ones I have seen are bolded.

I've seen a few Kid-Lynn matches but only the 2/3 falls match is the one I can say I've seen for sure. I might have seen the other match on this list. Back then men the size of Lynn and Waltman were few and far between, and the type of matches they had were/are true rarities. Waltman was fantastic back then, back then he really was "quicker than a hiccough"

I've seen a few OMEGA matches, but none of the ones listed, Willow the Wisp Vs Shannon Moore springs to mind. These guys were both very young and you could tell. Extremely athletic though, Jeff did moves in that match he couldn't do today in his dreams!

Kashdinero
02-19-2011, 05:43 AM
They also have a 90's Japanese indy list, of which I've seen most of the WAR and FMW matches:

1) TAKA Michinoku/Sho Funaki/Dick Togo/Shiryu/Men's Teioh vs. Gran Naniwa/Super Delfin/Tiger Mask IV/Masato Yakushiji/Gran Hamada - M. Pro "3rd Anniversary Show" (10/10/96) - 527 Points (8-8-1)
2) Nobuhiko Takada vs. Vader - UWFi "Pro Wrestling World Tourney '94" (8/18/94 - Finals) - 307 (2-4-5)
3) Ryuji Yamakawa vs. Tomoaki Honma - Big Japan (6/20/99 - Death Match) - 298 (2-0-3)
4) Great Sasuke vs. Magnum Tokyo - Toryumon (2/7/99 - Middleweight Title Tourney Finals) - 296 (1-2-3)
5) Daisuke Ikeda vs. Yuki Ishikawa - BattlARTS Young Generation '99 (8/29/99 - Finals) - 240 (4-1-1)
6) Ultimo Dragon vs. Jushin Liger - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95 - Semis) - 204 (0-0-1)
7) Great Sasuke/ Tiger Mask IV/ Shiryu vs. Super Delfin/ Gran Naniwa/ TAKA Michinoku - M. Pro (3/16/96) - 192 (2-0-1)
8) Hayabusa vs. Mr Gannosuke - FMW 9th Anniversary Show (4/30/98 - Unified Title) - 159 (1-1-0)
9) Rey Misterio, Jr. vs. Psicosis (12/13/95 - Super J Non tourney match) - 156 (0-1-1)
10) Great Sasuke/Gran Hamada/Super Delfin/Gran Naniwa/Tiger Mask IV vs. Dick Togo/Men's Teioh/TAKA Michinoku/Shiryu/Sho Funaki - M. Pro (12/9/96 - Elimination Match) - 144 (0-0-1)
11) TAKA Michinoku vs. Minoru Tanaka - M. Pro/BattlARTS (10/17/99) - 135 (0-2-0)
12) Shiima Nobunaga vs. Magnum Tokyo - Toryumon (2/5/99 - Welterweight Title) - 126
13) Great Sasuke/Gran Hamada/Gran Naniwa/Super Delfin/Masato Yakushiji vs. Teioh/Togo/TAKA/Funaki/Shiryu - M. Pro (12/16/96) - 122 (2-0-1)
14) Taka Michinoku vs. Hayabusa - FMW (11/16/96) - 108 (0-1-0)
15) Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95) - 107
16) Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka - RINGS (6/27/98) - 97 (1-0-2)
17) Shinjiro Otani vs. Ultimo Dragon - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95) - 96 (1-0-0)
18) Nobunaga/Suwa/Fuji vs. Tokyo/Kid/SAITO - Toruymon (2/3/99 - Elimination Match) - 94 (1-1-1)
19) Hayabusa vs. Masato Tanaka - FMW (5/19/98) - 93 (0-1-0)
20) Ultimo Dragon vs. Great Sasuke - WAR "Crush Night" (10/11/96 - J Crown) - 89

I've also seen all the WAR matches and most of the FMW matches. The TAKA Vs Hayabusa match I've seen countless times, as Best of Hayabusa was one of the first bootlegs I bought and it was full of great matches of Hayabusa in FMW.
I must also add that I fuckin loved FMW, they had some amazing talent who competed in WARS (explosions and everything) with each other, they may have eventually been "out-hardcored" by BJPW but FMW is the Godfather of hardcore!

MPW and Toryumon were great as well, I've seen quite a bit of both, but I haven't seen any of those on the list. Those crazy 6-Man Tag's that these guys used to specialise in used to have me mesmerised for hours!

WAR's Super J Cup 95 wasn't as good as good as NJPW's 94, but it sits at a very comfortable second. As I think 2000 and 2004 were thin on great matches, and I havent seen 2009 yet. Ultimo, Ohtani, Jericho, Benoit, and others were at their best that night. The wrong man won in the end though.

Lastly, Vader Vs Takada sounds amazing, I've known about Vaders spell in the "shoot fed" for a while now and I can't believe I haven't seen any footage. Vader in the UWFI sounds brutal!!

Side note: UWFI used to be shown on Bravo under the name Bushido.

P.S TAKA Vs Tanaka. This I need to see.

THE_CRIPPLER
02-19-2011, 12:48 PM
The only one of those I've seen is Heavenly Bodies vs. Jericho/Storm, because it was mentioned in Jericho's first book. I guess it's considered infamous for Jericho only having one good arm (he broke his arm attempting a shooting star press earlier that day) and him doing a crazy bladejob, (a fan supposedly tastes his blood) but I just thought it was an okay match with a shitty finish.

I've always wanted to watch some OMEGA and the ECWA Super 8 tournaments, but they're really hard to find. Everything else on there seems fairly obscure too.

They also have a 90's Japanese indy list, of which I've seen most of the WAR and FMW matches:

1) TAKA Michinoku/Sho Funaki/Dick Togo/Shiryu/Men's Teioh vs. Gran Naniwa/Super Delfin/Tiger Mask IV/Masato Yakushiji/Gran Hamada - M. Pro "3rd Anniversary Show" (10/10/96) - 527 Points (8-8-1)
2) Nobuhiko Takada vs. Vader - UWFi "Pro Wrestling World Tourney '94" (8/18/94 - Finals) - 307 (2-4-5)
3) Ryuji Yamakawa vs. Tomoaki Honma - Big Japan (6/20/99 - Death Match) - 298 (2-0-3)
4) Great Sasuke vs. Magnum Tokyo - Toryumon (2/7/99 - Middleweight Title Tourney Finals) - 296 (1-2-3)
5) Daisuke Ikeda vs. Yuki Ishikawa - BattlARTS Young Generation '99 (8/29/99 - Finals) - 240 (4-1-1)
6) Ultimo Dragon vs. Jushin Liger - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95 - Semis) - 204 (0-0-1)
7) Great Sasuke/ Tiger Mask IV/ Shiryu vs. Super Delfin/ Gran Naniwa/ TAKA Michinoku - M. Pro (3/16/96) - 192 (2-0-1)
8) Hayabusa vs. Mr Gannosuke - FMW 9th Anniversary Show (4/30/98 - Unified Title) - 159 (1-1-0)
9) Rey Misterio, Jr. vs. Psicosis (12/13/95 - Super J Non tourney match) - 156 (0-1-1)
10) Great Sasuke/Gran Hamada/Super Delfin/Gran Naniwa/Tiger Mask IV vs. Dick Togo/Men's Teioh/TAKA Michinoku/Shiryu/Sho Funaki - M. Pro (12/9/96 - Elimination Match) - 144 (0-0-1)
11) TAKA Michinoku vs. Minoru Tanaka - M. Pro/BattlARTS (10/17/99) - 135 (0-2-0)
12) Shiima Nobunaga vs. Magnum Tokyo - Toryumon (2/5/99 - Welterweight Title) - 126
13) Great Sasuke/Gran Hamada/Gran Naniwa/Super Delfin/Masato Yakushiji vs. Teioh/Togo/TAKA/Funaki/Shiryu - M. Pro (12/16/96) - 122 (2-0-1)
14) Taka Michinoku vs. Hayabusa - FMW (11/16/96) - 108 (0-1-0)
15) Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95) - 107
16) Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka - RINGS (6/27/98) - 97 (1-0-2)
17) Shinjiro Otani vs. Ultimo Dragon - WAR Super J Cup (12/13/95) - 96 (1-0-0)
18) Nobunaga/Suwa/Fuji vs. Tokyo/Kid/SAITO - Toruymon (2/3/99 - Elimination Match) - 94 (1-1-1)
19) Hayabusa vs. Masato Tanaka - FMW (5/19/98) - 93 (0-1-0)
20) Ultimo Dragon vs. Great Sasuke - WAR "Crush Night" (10/11/96 - J Crown) - 89

You Know there is a commerical Omega DVD directed by the Hardy boys, it was when both were not working for WWE (around the Hardy, Edge,Lita Triangle)...... the Doc will show you how big of losers the Omega boys are... the matches i havent really watch yet but most the matches listed are on there

Kashdinero
02-19-2011, 04:50 PM
You Know there is a commerical Omega DVD directed by the Hardy boys, it was when both were not working for WWE (around the Hardy, Edge,Lita Triangle)...... the Doc will show you how big of losers the Omega boys are... the matches i havent really watch yet but most the matches listed are on there

I bought that about a year ago, but it's only the documentary and there's no full matches on it, no biggie, but at the time I was kinda pissed, as I thought it was the double disk set I saw advertised somewhere!

THE_CRIPPLER
02-20-2011, 02:10 AM
i got the double disc set, never got around to watching it... i forget the list of matches........ that fat guy in the documentart was so annoying, everyone was annoying besides the Cham-pane guy but Other than his Rock Story i wasnt intersted.

Kashdinero
02-20-2011, 02:17 AM
i got the double disc set, never got around to watching it... i forget the list of matches........ that fat guy in the documentart was so annoying, everyone was annoying besides the Cham-pane guy but Other than his Rock Story i wasnt intersted.


I pretty much feel the same way about it, I only watched it once and can only really remember the Rock story.