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Rassling_Fan
02-09-2011, 09:48 AM
Source (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/597426-tna-mr-andersons-title-reign-a-fluke)


According to sources listed at the end of this article, TNA World Champion, Mr. Anderson, was originally planned to lose the World Title this past iMPACT!

The plan was to have Anderson drop the World Title to Jeff Hardy on February 3rd.

The dilemma that stopped this plan was Hardy's court case. Hardy's court case didn't wrap up in time, and TNA didn't want to risk putting the belt on Hardy.

TNA obviously wants Hardy as the World Champion.

If this person's source is true, why? As he said, "He is over with the crowd and the iMPACT Zone loves him." Why give it to someone that is having legal trouble when you can make money giving the belt to someone who the people like?

Stinger187
02-09-2011, 09:52 AM
Source (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/597426-tna-mr-andersons-title-reign-a-fluke)



If this person's source is true, why? As he said, "He is over with the crowd and the iMPACT Zone loves him." Why give it to someone that is having legal trouble when you can make money giving the belt to someone who the people like?

Cause its T frickN A and that's what they do! Andersons kick ass on the mic they would rather Jeff because he was bigger in WWE

HeelTurn
02-09-2011, 09:53 AM
I suppose htat explains why he still has the purple belt instead of the real belt EY is carrying around. I like Anderson, he is over with the fans as you said, no question about that and he can put on some great matches. I guess TNA still think theres money to be made with Jeff as champ, hes still popular with some fans, but I agree the belt is better on Anderson.

Rich Cranium
02-09-2011, 09:57 AM
I suppose htat explains why he still has the purple belt instead of the real belt EY is carrying around. I like Anderson, he is over with the fans as you said, no question about that and he can put on some great matches. I guess TNA still think theres money to be made with Jeff as champ, hes still popular with some fans, but I agree the belt is better on Anderson.

True about the Diva belt so if Jeff doesn't have to do time he will regain it!

*Jeff probably will do community service so maybe if your driving down the road in North Carolina, you might see Jeff picking up trash while wearing that purple Barney belt!

maar13
02-09-2011, 12:06 PM
Well I think thsat will suck.

I know this is not much but if Matt Hardy is attributing the rating "Increase" to the Hardys it also has something to do with Anderson being Champion. I think he isa good champion, not really boring or anything, but they need to give him the shot to be champion istead of a fluke.

Hopefully they don't start playing hot potato with the belt again and either let Hardy (I hope not) or Anderson have a nice run with the belt, 5 months at least, enough time to build a good title change or a lenghtier run better.

Bennyladd1
02-09-2011, 12:44 PM
lets just hope TNA goes out of business soon, its awful.

wallyman
02-09-2011, 01:02 PM
lets just hope TNA goes out of business soon, its awful.

why would u want tna out of business...seriouysly i dont understand this people....do u think wwe is doing that better....god this comments make me so mad...i understand if u loove wwe but come on man,...wishin death to another company aint right...and tna has been really entertaining this last few weeks....better than anytning wwe has been doing....anyways i think anderson is provin that he is championship material....and he will get his own belt from wha i hear

thedag
02-09-2011, 02:03 PM
why would u want tna out of business...seriouysly i dont understand this people....do u think wwe is doing that better....god this comments make me so mad...i understand if u loove wwe but come on man,...wishin death to another company aint right...and tna has been really entertaining this last few weeks....better than anytning wwe has been doing....anyways i think anderson is provin that he is championship material....and he will get his own belt from wha i hear

wtf did he just say? anyways take the belt off him soon cuz he will be injuried soon. he is do for a new injury.

Rassling_Fan
02-09-2011, 02:11 PM
and tna has been really entertaining this last few weeks....better than anytning wwe has been doing....

As long as you ignore last week. That Karen/Jarrett thing really made that week horrible to watch, and it was the first TNA I've seen since my discontinuation.

WWTNA Mark
02-09-2011, 02:20 PM
why would u want tna out of business...seriouysly i dont understand this people....do u think wwe is doing that better....god this comments make me so mad...i understand if u loove wwe but come on man,...wishin death to another company aint right...and tna has been really entertaining this last few weeks....better than anytning wwe has been doing....anyways i think anderson is provin that he is championship material....and he will get his own belt from wha i hear

You have got to be bullshitting right? Oh wait, i'm talking to wallymen.

wallyman
02-09-2011, 02:41 PM
As long as you ignore last week. That Karen/Jarrett thing really made that week horrible to watch, and it was the first TNA I've seen since my discontinuation.

yeah thats a stupid angle...no one gives a shit aboue the karen/jarret...iu think this angle would of worked when it was fresh but...everyone knows angle is happy with his gf and the baby they have...and tna has been entertaining unless u dont watch it and bash it....

Rassling_Fan
02-09-2011, 02:51 PM
yeah thats a stupid angle...no one gives a shit aboue the karen/jarret...iu think this angle would of worked when it was fresh but...everyone knows angle is happy with his gf and the baby they have...and tna has been entertaining unless u dont watch it and bash it....

As I mentioned, last week was the first time I've seen TNA since the first They and finding out about their poor treatment of talent. (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/9/29/1719902/an-examination-of-tnas-appalling-treatment-of-talent)

And after watching all that (except the final two Karen/Jarret segments), the only thing I could think of positively of the show was They being Fortune (as long as I ignore what was already established as continuity, which I had trouble doing when they did the whole "They" angle in the first place before I officially stopped).

WWTNA Mark
02-09-2011, 03:19 PM
yeah thats a stupid angle...no one gives a shit aboue the karen/jarret...iu think this angle would of worked when it was fresh but...everyone knows angle is happy with his gf and the baby they have...and tna has been entertaining unless u dont watch it and bash it....

I'm really not seeing what TNA is doing special that WWE isn't doing. Impact was alright but I would't say entertaining. What was so entertaining about it? Finding out that "they" were Fortune? Don't really know about TNA being entertaining but its your opinion.

thedag
02-09-2011, 03:35 PM
only good thing that tna done in the last few weeks was aj promo. good for him for remembering what they told him to say. but any punk promo beats anything tna.

Stinger187
02-09-2011, 04:02 PM
How come everything onhe TNA board has to become TNA bash fest? There are threads for bashing! Plenty of them, I know I've posted on them! Come on guys, put your disk away and stop trying to see who can pee the farthest!

Bodom
02-09-2011, 04:18 PM
Must say something about the company when 90% of the comments are about how awful they are.

Rassling_Fan
02-09-2011, 04:39 PM
How come everything onhe TNA board has to become TNA bash fest? There are threads for bashing! Plenty of them, I know I've posted on them! Come on guys, put your disk away and stop trying to see who can pee the farthest!

It's very hard to do especially since TNA bashes themselves. (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/600947-eric-bischoff-kevin-nash-is-a-smart-man-and-thats-why-he-went-to-the-wwe)

The Brown One
02-09-2011, 04:41 PM
On topic: I swear the higher ups in TNA must be high. Its understandable that they want Jeff to look like a dominant champion, build the company around him, and keep the world title in Immortal, but its a stupid idea. They want to keep the belt on someone who they don't know is going to jail. Thats not very smart, if Jeff is sentenced to prison. It should be about time that this stupid Immortal angle ended. Its been around too long for my liking, and Jeff losing the world title should have been the first step to them disbanding.

merhardt03
02-09-2011, 04:52 PM
Im all for Anderson being TNA Champion. Im a lil biased since Im from Green Bay though, lol. But He is damn entertaining on the mic, and good in-ring work, but hopin he keeps injury free for a while since its no argument he's injury-prone. That is the biggest con against him and hurts his credibility and reliability with the TNA and wrestling audience.

AndyWonder
02-09-2011, 08:46 PM
He is not a fluke. He is, however, a much better fit in TNA than in WWE. He has the look of a TNA star. He just needs the original TNA title belt. No reason to carry around the custom made belt.

Rich Cranium
02-09-2011, 08:50 PM
He is not a fluke. He is, however, a much better fit in TNA than in WWE. He has the look of a TNA star. He just needs the original TNA title belt. No reason to carry around the custom made belt.

Well, he certainly can't have the 'assholes' in WWE.

Stinger187
02-09-2011, 09:00 PM
He is not a fluke. He is, however, a much better fit in TNA than in WWE. He has the look of a TNA star. He just needs the original TNA title belt. No reason to carry around the custom made belt.

It's not he was saying he's a fluke! Hevwas saying he was supposed to drop the belt to hardy on feb third but Hardy's court stuff wasn't resolved, so he kept it!

Justdawg08
02-09-2011, 09:28 PM
I think it comes down to there are more legit faces in TNA than there are heels... Jeff Hardy Vs Angle... Vs... Rvd... Vs Anderson... Vs Styles... Vs Joe.... Vs Pope..

Anderson Vs..... Jeff? Vs.... Matt Hardy?

Who else is Anderson going to defend against? Theres no legit heels for Anderson to feud with.

VKM
02-10-2011, 09:41 PM
lets just hope TNA goes out of business soon, its awful.

Well thats dumb to say. Assuming that you're a WWE fan, you probably hate the PG system. Well the only chance of WWE getting out of the PG phase is if a company (TNA) has better success and ratings than them. WWE would then realize "Hey we better do something or we'll get buried!". Thats what happened when WCW rised over WWF. WCW kicked their butts and then WWE could'nt take it anymore and had to revolutionize itself...And that is how the Attitude Era came about. So yeah, its better to want them to grow so WWE could become better in result of TNA's rise.

The only thing that doesn't make sense is that the people that bash TNA would rather watch WWE. Listen, I'm a neutral. Both the companies are garbage IMO. However, I'd rather tune into TNA than to watch WWE have The Great Khali dancing, Daniel Bryan being used in a love triangle, Jerry lawyler facing The Miz for the championship, John Cena being being better than everybody else...The list goes on and on. Kevin Steen says that he gets headaches from watching TNA...I can't lie i do too...But when I watch WWE, I feel like throwing up. Its so disgusting.

Rassling_Fan
02-10-2011, 10:55 PM
The only thing that doesn't make sense is that the people that bash TNA would rather watch WWE. Listen, I'm a neutral. Both the companies are garbage IMO. However, I'd rather tune into TNA than to watch WWE have The Great Khali dancing, Daniel Bryan being used in a love triangle, Jerry lawyler facing The Miz for the championship, John Cena being being better than everybody else...The list goes on and on. Kevin Steen says that he gets headaches from watching TNA...I can't lie i do too...But when I watch WWE, I feel like throwing up. Its so disgusting.

Compared that to the Jarret/Karen bits last week, made me not want to touch TNA with a 50 foot pole (again, and this was after hearing "AJ's Promo was so good, which wasn't thanks to Bishoff's comments). WWE may put you off, but they are doing more for wrestling then TNA is.

VKM
02-11-2011, 08:51 AM
Compared that to the Jarret/Karen bits last week, made me not want to touch TNA with a 50 foot pole (again, and this was after hearing "AJ's Promo was so good, which wasn't thanks to Bishoff's comments). WWE may put you off, but they are doing more for wrestling then TNA is.

Yeah your right, with WWE having dance off battles and love triangles on RAW, its really doing wonders for the wrestling community. C'mon are you serious!? There is no wrestling in WWE, all they have is entertainment! For Goodness sake! Justin Beiber just might be the host of Wrestlemania! The best match they gave on RAW so far was either William Regal vs. Daniel Bryan or Daniel Bryan vs. John Morrison. TNA puts ongreat wrestling matches almost every week. And you can't dispute that fact. WWE has entertainers while TNA has Wrestlers.

Rassling_Fan
02-11-2011, 04:45 PM
Yeah your right, with WWE having dance off battles and love triangles on RAW, its really doing wonders for the wrestling community. C'mon are you serious!? There is no wrestling in WWE, all they have is entertainment! For Goodness sake! Justin Beiber just might be the host of Wrestlemania! The best match they gave on RAW so far was either William Regal vs. Daniel Bryan or Daniel Bryan vs. John Morrison. TNA puts ongreat wrestling matches almost every week. And you can't dispute that fact. WWE has entertainers while TNA has Wrestlers.

Last week on TNA (and the last time I saw TNA),
-Ink Inc vs Gunner & Muffin: Boring.
-Bully Ray & The Pope vs Brother Devon & Samoa Joe: Wasn't a match.
-X-Division #1 Contender's Tournament Match: Jeremy Buck vs Douglas Williams vs Jay Lethal: Only good one, but short.
-Taped Fist Match: Sarita vs Mickie James: Here's your Last Man Standing match.
-Ken Anderson vs Jeff Hardy: Pointless because of the Fortune Reveal...

Last week on Raw:
-Santino Marella and Vladimir Kozlov vs. Husky Harris and Michael McGillicutty: About the same as the Tag match above.
-Tyson Kidd vs. Daniel Bryan: Great but short match
-The Miz vs. Edge: Alright match.
-Natalya and Eve vs. Laycool: Better then the Knock outs thanks to Natalya.
-The Raw Rumble Match: Entertaining, yet had King won.

Last week, Raw had the same number of matches as TNA. And they were longer then TNA's matches put together.

And lets not forget WWE is making new stars while TNA is using those who left the WWE (seriously tell me, besides Desmond Wolfe, who was the newest TNA Star not associated with the WWE, WCW or ECW?). That WWE was the first to ban exposed head shots while TNA had to follow because of the poor practice they did with Magnus. Or how about that Daniel Bryan is still on TV while Desmond Wolfe is nowhere to be seen. Or how about the fact you're completely ignoring Smackdown since it had more matches then Raw or TNA. Or NXT and Superstars, their combined hours have more Wrestling then all three shows individually. Or how about the fact their drug policies do have a punishment while there seems to be no report for TNA?

How about the fact that WWE makes sense! That Dance Off made a lot more sense then Eric Young, the Brain Damaged Wrestler who is still here after they had a story about not wanting to make people wrestle because they have a concussion! It made more sense for Cena to return after being fired (Security didn't like Nexus because they attacked them) then Angle returning after the POLICE ESCORTED HIM OUT OF THE ARENA! AND NO ONE TRIES TO CALL THEM AGAIN WHEN HE DOES RETURN!

Or how about the fact WWE actually treats their wrestlers well (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/9/29/1719902/an-examination-of-tnas-appalling-treatment-of-talent). Or that they look to the independent and international circuit to bring in new people no one the average wrestling fan sees. That WWE's Youth Group was a planned team while TNA's Fortune face turn was plan B. How about the fact WWE promotes their PPVs while TNA doesn't.

I can go on and on, but someone beat me to it. (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/604141-tna-wrestling-a-promotion-but-not-yet-a-defined-brand)

VKM
02-11-2011, 05:23 PM
Last week on TNA (and the last time I saw TNA),
-Ink Inc vs Gunner & Muffin: Boring.
-Bully Ray & The Pope vs Brother Devon & Samoa Joe: Wasn't a match.
-X-Division #1 Contender's Tournament Match: Jeremy Buck vs Douglas Williams vs Jay Lethal: Only good one, but short.
-Taped Fist Match: Sarita vs Mickie James: Here's your Last Man Standing match.
-Ken Anderson vs Jeff Hardy: Pointless because of the Fortune Reveal...

Last week on Raw:
-Santino Marella and Vladimir Kozlov vs. Husky Harris and Michael McGillicutty: About the same as the Tag match above.
-Tyson Kidd vs. Daniel Bryan: Great but short match
-The Miz vs. Edge: Alright match.
-Natalya and Eve vs. Laycool: Better then the Knock outs thanks to Natalya.
-The Raw Rumble Match: Entertaining, yet had King won.

Last week, Raw had the same number of matches as TNA. And they were longer then TNA's matches put together.

And lets not forget WWE is making new stars while TNA is using those who left the WWE (seriously tell me, besides Desmond Wolfe, who was the newest TNA Star not associated with the WWE, WCW or ECW?). That WWE was the first to ban exposed head shots while TNA had to follow because of the poor practice they did with Magnus. Or how about that Daniel Bryan is still on TV while Desmond Wolfe is nowhere to be seen. Or how about the fact you're completely ignoring Smackdown since it had more matches then Raw or TNA. Or NXT and Superstars, their combined hours have more Wrestling then all three shows individually. Or how about the fact their drug policies do have a punishment while there seems to be no report for TNA?

How about the fact that WWE makes sense! That Dance Off made a lot more sense then Eric Young, the Brain Damaged Wrestler who is still here after they had a story about not wanting to make people wrestle because they have a concussion! It made more sense for Cena to return after being fired (Security didn't like Nexus because they attacked them) then Angle returning after the POLICE ESCORTED HIM OUT OF THE ARENA! AND NO ONE TRIES TO CALL THEM AGAIN WHEN HE DOES RETURN!

Or how about the fact WWE actually treats their wrestlers well (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/9/29/1719902/an-examination-of-tnas-appalling-treatment-of-talent). Or that they look to the independent and international circuit to bring in new people no one the average wrestling fan sees. That WWE's Youth Group was a planned team while TNA's Fortune face turn was plan B. How about the fact WWE promotes their PPVs while TNA doesn't.

I can go on and on, but someone beat me to it. (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/604141-tna-wrestling-a-promotion-but-not-yet-a-defined-brand)

Okay, obviously your going off topic. We are arguing about which company supports wrestling. In your post before this, you said "WWE may put you off, but they are doing more for wrestling then TNA is."

You still haven't showed me any proof of how WWE is doing more for wrestling than TNA. Then, you said "How about the fact that WWE makes sense! That Dance Off made a lot more sense then Eric Young, the Brain Damaged Wrestler who is still here after they had a story about not wanting to make people wrestle because they have a concussion!"

First of all, everything that TNA does makes much more sense then having a dance off. WWE is suppose to be a wrestling company, not a circus. A dance off! Wow, you make me want to puke. The rest of your statements just went off topic though. You should really learn how to debate more so you can stay on the subject.

The only worthy statement you presented was about the camparison between last weeks RAW and TNA matches. Comparing just last weeks show doesn't prove anything. All you proved was how both terrible both shows were. Like I said before, IMO both of the companies are garbage.

TNA does more for wrestling because their wrestling matches are much more entertaining! WWE has lost it's ability to even make entertaining matches. The only matches that are entertianing is their midcard matches. TNA and WWE both are horrible. And i have no idea why you are even trying to stick up for WWE. And i don't even know why I'm even trying to tell you the truth when everything I say to you will just go in one ear and out of the other. So I'll let you go back to watching people dancing and people having love triagnles like its General Hospital or all my children. I think I just puked all over my computer.

The Brown One
02-11-2011, 06:21 PM
Last week on TNA (and the last time I saw TNA),
-Ink Inc vs Gunner & Muffin: Boring.
-Bully Ray & The Pope vs Brother Devon & Samoa Joe: Wasn't a match.
-X-Division #1 Contender's Tournament Match: Jeremy Buck vs Douglas Williams vs Jay Lethal: Only good one, but short.
-Taped Fist Match: Sarita vs Mickie James: Here's your Last Man Standing match.
-Ken Anderson vs Jeff Hardy: Pointless because of the Fortune Reveal...

Last week on Raw:
-Santino Marella and Vladimir Kozlov vs. Husky Harris and Michael McGillicutty: About the same as the Tag match above.
-Tyson Kidd vs. Daniel Bryan: Great but short match
-The Miz vs. Edge: Alright match.
-Natalya and Eve vs. Laycool: Better then the Knock outs thanks to Natalya.
-The Raw Rumble Match: Entertaining, yet had King won.

Last week, Raw had the same number of matches as TNA. And they were longer then TNA's matches put together.

And lets not forget WWE is making new stars while TNA is using those who left the WWE (seriously tell me, besides Desmond Wolfe, who was the newest TNA Star not associated with the WWE, WCW or ECW?). That WWE was the first to ban exposed head shots while TNA had to follow because of the poor practice they did with Magnus. Or how about that Daniel Bryan is still on TV while Desmond Wolfe is nowhere to be seen. Or how about the fact you're completely ignoring Smackdown since it had more matches then Raw or TNA. Or NXT and Superstars, their combined hours have more Wrestling then all three shows individually. Or how about the fact their drug policies do have a punishment while there seems to be no report for TNA?

How about the fact that WWE makes sense! That Dance Off made a lot more sense then Eric Young, the Brain Damaged Wrestler who is still here after they had a story about not wanting to make people wrestle because they have a concussion! It made more sense for Cena to return after being fired (Security didn't like Nexus because they attacked them) then Angle returning after the POLICE ESCORTED HIM OUT OF THE ARENA! AND NO ONE TRIES TO CALL THEM AGAIN WHEN HE DOES RETURN!

Or how about the fact WWE actually treats their wrestlers well (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/9/29/1719902/an-examination-of-tnas-appalling-treatment-of-talent). Or that they look to the independent and international circuit to bring in new people no one the average wrestling fan sees. That WWE's Youth Group was a planned team while TNA's Fortune face turn was plan B. How about the fact WWE promotes their PPVs while TNA doesn't.

I can go on and on, but someone beat me to it. (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/604141-tna-wrestling-a-promotion-but-not-yet-a-defined-brand)


Okay, obviously your going off topic. We are arguing about which company supports wrestling. In your post before this, you said "WWE may put you off, but they are doing more for wrestling then TNA is."

You still haven't showed me any proof of how WWE is doing more for wrestling than TNA. Then, you said "How about the fact that WWE makes sense! That Dance Off made a lot more sense then Eric Young, the Brain Damaged Wrestler who is still here after they had a story about not wanting to make people wrestle because they have a concussion!"

First of all, everything that TNA does makes much more sense then having a dance off. WWE is suppose to be a wrestling company, not a circus. A dance off! Wow, you make me want to puke. The rest of your statements just went off topic though. You should really learn how to debate more so you can stay on the subject.

The only worthy statement you presented was about the camparison between last weeks RAW and TNA matches. Comparing just last weeks show doesn't prove anything. All you proved was how both terrible both shows were. Like I said before, IMO both of the companies are garbage.

TNA does more for wrestling because their wrestling matches are much more entertaining! WWE has lost it's ability to even make entertaining matches. The only matches that are entertianing is their midcard matches. TNA and WWE both are horrible. And i have no idea why you are even trying to stick up for WWE. And i don't even know why I'm even trying to tell you the truth when everything I say to you will just go in one ear and out of the other. So I'll let you go back to watching people dancing and people having love triagnles like its General Hospital or all my children. I think I just puked all over my computer.

I respect both of your points. But VKM, you have to understand that WWE is no longer only a wrestling company, but also an entertainment company. They had to change, to still be the #1 "wrestling" company in the world. To continue making huge profits, and to get kids as fans, who will become life-long fans of the product. WWE and TNA both have their flaws, and their strong points, and I must say, both companies don't have much wrestling on their shows, but they build towards angles that will continue/conclude at PPVs, where the matches are long. Sorry for going off topic, but I think that you both should put your thoughts into blogs, because it really was an interesting read.

Rassling_Fan
02-11-2011, 08:08 PM
So I'll let you go back to watching people dancing and people having love triagnles like its General Hospital or all my children. I think I just puked all over my computer.

I laughed at this because isn't one of the big storylines in TNA right now is Kurt and Karen/Jarret fighting for their kids, which originally stemmed off a love triangle between the adults involved?

News flash, Pro Wrestling is a male Soap Opera, even TNA. For example, remember when Abyss was KILLED! Wait a month or two and you'll see he's back. Or currently as Hernandez returns (as I recall reading a spoiler) to reveal that Morgan isn't the honorable guy we thought he was (the rare time TNA has continuity). Pretending it's less story based then WWE is just foolish.

I also loved how you ignored the fact I pointed out that WWE was pushing younger talent, paying their talent well, and pushing for safety in their matches.

VKM
02-12-2011, 10:24 AM
I laughed at this because isn't one of the big storylines in TNA right now is Kurt and Karen/Jarret fighting for their kids, which originally stemmed off a love triangle between the adults involved?

News flash, Pro Wrestling is a male Soap Opera, even TNA. For example, remember when Abyss was KILLED! Wait a month or two and you'll see he's back. Or currently as Hernandez returns (as I recall reading a spoiler) to reveal that Morgan isn't the honorable guy we thought he was (the rare time TNA has continuity). Pretending it's less story based then WWE is just foolish.

I also loved how you ignored the fact I pointed out that WWE was pushing younger talent, paying their talent well, and pushing for safety in their matches.

Like I said....Its going in one ear and out the other. FYI, WWE is not paying their talent well. The FCW wrestlers arebeing payed very, very little amounts of money. And so far, how many people have gotten injured in a TNA ring? Few. With TNA's TV taping schedule, it is a very little chance of getting injured. However, with WWE, they go on the road almost 300 days of the year. Its so easy for them to get injured. The fact is, Vince really doesn't care about his wrestlers either. The only reason why they stopped bloody matches and other hardcore stuff is because of the PG system which was only made to make more money. The truth is, WWE has more safe matches but their wrestlers will get injured first before TNA wrestlers.

WWE's Serious injries in 2010:
Evan Bourne
Triple H
Beth Phoenix
Undertaker
Christian
Cm Punk
Ezekiel Jackson
Michael Tarver
Skip Shefiled
John Morrsion
The Great Khali

source: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/520882-wwe-injuries-and-inactivity-biggest-losses-of-2010#page/12

TNA Serious Injuries in 2010:
The Pope
Daffney
Angelina love
Mr. Anderson
Kurt Angle
AJ Styles

Smh. I still don't know what is so interesting about a dance off though. And no one here cannot say that TNA does not put on good matches. Their matches are better than WWE's. Rassling_Fan, maybe you don't realize what I'm arguing about. I'm arguing about the fact that TNA does more for the wrestling community because they put on great matches. And your right, most of their time on the shows is about Promos and backstage beatdowns, which I hate. But when its time to put on a good match, TNA will deliver. Like I siad before, both WWE and TNA are horrible. No one should even try to argue about which one is better because both of them have major work to do. I just don't understand why people even try to back up WWE like its doing any better. Both are garbage. THE END

Rassling_Fan
02-12-2011, 11:52 AM
Like I said....Its going in one ear and out the other. FYI, WWE is not paying their talent well. The FCW wrestlers arebeing payed very, very little amounts of money.
Then why did Gail Kim left TNA for WWE? Or Awesome Kong didn't resign with TNA? Or Homicide? Or Konnan, who hates WWE as well? Or how about the fact many of TNA's talent are paid per appearance, and are unable to make indy show appearances unless they go through TNA themsleves (with the exception of Eric Young and Samoa Joe, who got those added to their contract)?


And so far, how many people have gotten injured in a TNA ring? Few. With TNA's TV taping schedule, it is a very little chance of getting injured. However, with WWE, they go on the road almost 300 days of the year. Its so easy for them to get injured. The fact is, Vince really doesn't care about his wrestlers either. The only reason why they stopped bloody matches and other hardcore stuff is because of the PG system which was only made to make more money. The truth is, WWE has more safe matches but their wrestlers will get injured first before TNA wrestlers.
When those stars get injured, guess who pays for their recoveries, WWE. Who also pays for rehab, even with former employees? WWE (http://www.yardbarker.com/wwe/articles/report_scott_hall_taken_to_mandatory_rehab_paid_fo r_by_wwe/3061529). Who refused to pay for someone's injury? TNA (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/9/29/1719902/an-examination-of-tnas-appalling-treatment-of-talent). Who's drug test is a complete farce? TNA (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/10/6/1735506/surprise-surprise-tnas-drug-testing-is-a-complete-farce-and-theyre). Who hired Desmond Wolfe even though he had concussion issues? TNA.

WWE may make them work for 300 days, but they do take care of their talent.


Smh. I still don't know what is so interesting about a dance off though. And no one here cannot say that TNA does not put on good matches. Their matches are better than WWE's. Rassling_Fan, maybe you don't realize what I'm arguing about. I'm arguing about the fact that TNA does more for the wrestling community because they put on great matches.
We are not the Wrestling community. We are fans. The Wrestling Community are those who do the wrestling, who are involved with wrestling. Having a great match benefits only the company they work for and if they are lucky, the wrestlers themselves. TNA may put on "better" matches, how they treat their talent is not benefitial to TNA as a whole.

If you truly love wrestling, you would want them to be happy. If they're happy, we're happy.

VKM
02-13-2011, 10:47 AM
Then why did Gail Kim left TNA for WWE? Or Awesome Kong didn't resign with TNA? Or Homicide? Or Konnan, who hates WWE as well? Or how about the fact many of TNA's talent are paid per appearance, and are unable to make indy show appearances unless they go through TNA themsleves (with the exception of Eric Young and Samoa Joe, who got those added to their contract)?


When those stars get injured, guess who pays for their recoveries, WWE. Who also pays for rehab, even with former employees? WWE (http://www.yardbarker.com/wwe/articles/report_scott_hall_taken_to_mandatory_rehab_paid_fo r_by_wwe/3061529). Who refused to pay for someone's injury? TNA (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/9/29/1719902/an-examination-of-tnas-appalling-treatment-of-talent). Who's drug test is a complete farce? TNA (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/10/6/1735506/surprise-surprise-tnas-drug-testing-is-a-complete-farce-and-theyre). Who hired Desmond Wolfe even though he had concussion issues? TNA.

WWE may make them work for 300 days, but they do take care of their talent.


We are not the Wrestling community. We are fans. The Wrestling Community are those who do the wrestling, who are involved with wrestling. Having a great match benefits only the company they work for and if they are lucky, the wrestlers themselves. TNA may put on "better" matches, how they treat their talent is not benefitial to TNA as a whole.

If you truly love wrestling, you would want them to be happy. If they're happy, we're happy.

Like i said, its going in one ear and out the other. I don't even know how you went from "WWE offers more to wrestling" to "injuries,paychecks, and happiness." Obviously you can't stay on topic. Its no use arguing with someone who is Pro WWE. Its a sad thing. I'm glad im a Neutral cuz both of the companies suck and thats the bottom line. Both need work. But someone who is WWE Pro will find a way to say "at least WWE does this...does that..." The truth is they still suck! Two wrongs don't make a right. WWE is wrong and TNA is wrong. Neither one is righter than the other because both are wrong.

Rassling_Fan
02-13-2011, 08:34 PM
Like i said, its going in one ear and out the other. I don't even know how you went from "WWE offers more to wrestling" to "injuries,paychecks, and happiness." Obviously you can't stay on topic. Its no use arguing with someone who is Pro WWE. Its a sad thing. I'm glad im a Neutral cuz both of the companies suck and thats the bottom line. Both need work. But someone who is WWE Pro will find a way to say "at least WWE does this...does that..." The truth is they still suck! Two wrongs don't make a right. WWE is wrong and TNA is wrong. Neither one is righter than the other because both are wrong.

Post to Post...

RF - #25 (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?4314-Is-Mr.-Anderson-a-Fluke-Champion-(Offsite-Article)&p=70128&viewfull=1#post70128) - "more for wrestling then TNA is..."
VKM - #26 (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?4314-Is-Mr.-Anderson-a-Fluke-Champion-(Offsite-Article)&p=70256&viewfull=1#post70256) - "Yeah your right, with WWE having dance off battles and love triangles on RAW, its really doing wonders for the wrestling community..."
RF - #27 (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?4314-Is-Mr.-Anderson-a-Fluke-Champion-(Offsite-Article)&p=70389&viewfull=1#post70389) - "That WWE was the first to ban exposed head shots while TNA had to follow because of the poor practice they did with Magnus."
VKM - #28 (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?4314-Is-Mr.-Anderson-a-Fluke-Champion-(Offsite-Article)&p=70414&viewfull=1#post70414) - Ignoring my points and targeting specific ones to help your case "You should really learn how to debate more so you can stay on the subject."
RF - #30 (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?4314-Is-Mr.-Anderson-a-Fluke-Champion-(Offsite-Article)&p=70496&viewfull=1#post70496) - "I also loved how you ignored the fact I pointed out that WWE was pushing younger talent, paying their talent well, and pushing for safety in their matches."
VKM - #31 (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?4314-Is-Mr.-Anderson-a-Fluke-Champion-(Offsite-Article)&p=70713&viewfull=1#post70713) - List of injuries of 2010 between WWE and TNA
RF - #32 (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?4314-Is-Mr.-Anderson-a-Fluke-Champion-(Offsite-Article)&p=70728&viewfull=1#post70728) - Pointing out what the list didn't show

One of my points in #27 was that WWE was keeping their wrestlers healthy. #28 you ignored my for wrestling points and focused on the ones pointing out how not wrestling oriented TNA is. By #30, I brought up three points I made that were ignored. Then you post a list of injuries.

This isn't a pro WWE/TNA thing with me. This is based on my boycott on TNA for their poor treatment of their talent. Not only do they poorly pay the non-big stars (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/9/29/1719902/an-examination-of-tnas-appalling-treatment-of-talent) but they don't punish failed drug tests (http://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/10/6/1735506/surprise-surprise-tnas-drug-testing-is-a-complete-farce-and-theyre). For a company that is turning a profit off them, they should treat their talent much better.