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THE_CRIPPLER
01-18-2011, 11:39 PM
Today in Wrestling most finishing moves look like they wouldnt hurt a Fly (John Morrisons Star Ship Pain) or are performed badly (Skull Crushing Finale) or are just simple basic take down moves but used as finishers (John Cenas AA or Wade Barretts Wasteland, Which are just Firemens carrys, shouldn't be used for a finishing move for main eventers)...... Gone are the days where people had finishers like a Stone cold Stunner, Rock Bottom, F5, Great looking super kicks, Elbow smashes from the top rope, Power Bombs and so on...... and the people who have decent looking finishers ripped them off someone and perfomed them badly, Randy Orton and his RKO,which is a great finisher, performs that move about half as well as DDP use to hit the Diamond Cutter.... Im no a fan of DDP but compare how Orton hits the RKO (which is leaps and bounds better than he use to back in 2007) to how DDP did it....... DDP made it look like you can hit it out of no where, from any Angle... Randy Orton seems to mess it up anytime its is spouse to be hit by surprise or supposed to be a surprise counter (see his match with Dolph Ziggler)......


We are in the Day in age where Dolph Ziggler uses a badly excuted Sleeper for a finisher or that dumb mid card finisher the "Zig Zag".... Cena and Barrett use Firemen carries for a dominate finisher..... look at the least of moves from someof the top level guys in the 5 years or so.....

Somoan Spike (thumb to the neck)

Star Ship Pain/ Knee to the Head (john Morrison)

Skull Crushing Finale (terrible Looking Stroke)

John Cena AA (firemen Carry)

Wade Barrett (Firemen carry slam)

619 (a light looking swinging kick of thee ropes)

DreamStreet (just stupid)

Ken andersons mic Check (just looked so dumb and it doesnt looklike it could pin any main eventer)

Jeff Hardy Swanton bomb (does he even touch the other guy when he performs it?)

MVP (dont even know what that playmaker is sopuse to be but i have seen the move done before and it looks a hell of alot better than that, Than in no way shape or form needs to be used as a finisher)

Ill Give Credit to guys like Drew mac for using that awesome sit out double DDT or Cody Rhodes for making that generic finisher he uses look incredible.... but i fear thats its back to the days where the most feared moves in wrestling was Hulk Hogans LEG DROP or Warriors RUNNING SPLASH TO YOUR BACK.....i dont wanna go threw the years where leg drops and running rope splashes were dreaded end all finishers.... There is so many moves out there to choose from, simple moves, how about making a DDT look good or a reverse DDT and using it for a finsher, but now Wrestlers sell mid rope DDTs as if they were rakes to the eyes.... i take that back Drew mac won a match or 2 with rakes to the eyes Randy orton never won a match with the middle rope DDT.

JohnnyPhantom
01-19-2011, 12:05 AM
I would have to agree with many things said. The one that I disagree with and i know some people this its stupid but I liked Umaga's Somoan Spike. The way that Umaga performed it made it look like the other guy could potentially have throat damage. The premise of the move is pure pain, a huge man putting all of his force into your throat. Mhmmm... yeah i dont think i want this to happen to me.

All of these moves look like guy are trying to be waywayway overcreative. Lets see more moves like The Dominator, the original Liontamer that looked like he was gonna break the other guys neck, Mcyntires ddt, canadian destroyer, F5, The Y2J Triple Powerbomb he did for awhile when he was facing cruiserweights.

I know i duplicated a few but ehhhh, that just means im agreeing.

JohnnyPhantom
01-19-2011, 12:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRWEk29nFuM&feature=related

Oh and Just because...

NightWolf
01-19-2011, 12:16 AM
I agree with Johnny about the triple powerbomb thing that Y2J used to do. I'd give anything to see that as somebodies finisher. it is just really dominating to look at an I think it would look good on somebody like Jackson Andrews, Mason Ryan, or Ezekiel Jackson.


Another move I really liked was X-pacs X-factor, and that sitout chokeslam that Test used to use.


Another sick move would be a front flip powerbomb from the top rope. I remember seeing it before an it was amazing an looked like it really hurt the guy that was on the rechieving end of it.

SilverGhost
01-19-2011, 12:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wImaQfjXSUM

This is a finisher.

Bodom
01-19-2011, 12:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wImaQfjXSUM

This is a finisher.

You do realize thats basically the same motion as Cena's AA.

68wPayne
01-19-2011, 12:28 AM
Sean O'Haire was one of WWE's biggest F-ups. That man could have been a main eventer easy.

SilverGhost
01-19-2011, 12:34 AM
You do realize thats basically the same motion as Cena's AA.

Its better than the AA.

PrimusSucks
01-19-2011, 12:37 AM
Its better than the AA.

Nothing against Cena, but I agree with this, O'Haire's just looked like it had much more impact.

Saiga
01-19-2011, 12:45 AM
i enjoyed o haire's devil advocate gimmick he used for a short time before becoming roddy piper's biatch.

other weak finishers forgot to mention were:

great khali's chop to the head (lame & looks weak)

santino marella's cobra (give me a break)

The Brown One
01-19-2011, 12:47 AM
Another sick move would be a front flip powerbomb from the top rope. I remember seeing it before an it was amazing an looked like it really hurt the guy that was on the rechieving end of it.

Dude that is a sick move!!! I think its banned though, due to the danger involved of a broken neck.

SilverGhost
01-19-2011, 12:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCgV8N3FhQw

Eric Bischoff
01-19-2011, 01:35 AM
Don't you all think that the GTS is a very effective move when done properly. R-Truth's lie detector is weak, it seems to me that Truth receives more pain than his opponent after the landing.

tealc16
01-19-2011, 01:53 AM
R-Truth's lie detector is weak, it seems to me that Truth receives more pain than his opponent after the landing.

I just watched R-Truth's finisher because I always turn it off when he is on, that is terrible!

JohnnyPhantom
01-19-2011, 02:07 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wc6zJDQ8CM

Another good one. Was it this or the running powerbomb that broke Droz's neck?

C_Dogg024
01-19-2011, 02:18 AM
i enjoyed o haire's devil advocate gimmick he used for a short time before becoming roddy piper's biatch.

other weak finishers forgot to mention were:

great khali's chop to the head (lame & looks weak)

santino marella's cobra (give me a break)

oh come on give santino a break....I like the cobra it is hilarious...hehe

The Brown One
01-19-2011, 03:15 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wc6zJDQ8CM

Another good one. Was it this or the running powerbomb that broke Droz's neck?

The running powerbomb.

JohnnyPhantom
01-19-2011, 05:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq1sugcporc&feature=related

So i know i just put one up... but this is my fav finisher of all time. Ohhh yes!

SaberToothTigerz
01-19-2011, 06:03 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wq1sugcporc&feature=related

So i know i just put one up... but this is my fav finisher of all time. Ohhh yes!

HOLY SHIT O_O

a move that sucks was the one they gave zack ryder


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSdzwj8mLY8

JohnnyPhantom
01-19-2011, 06:24 AM
Uhhh wait... Ryders move is supposed to hurt people?

LMPunker
01-19-2011, 06:55 AM
nobodies mentioned the worm or the peoples elbow dont get me wrong i enjoyed them and they were super over and was abig scotty fan and a big rock fan but looking back it doesnt look like it would keep a guy down for 3 seconds and in logical straight forward thinking why didnt scotty just pin the guy with the bulldog before the worm?lol

Bodom
01-19-2011, 10:07 AM
Another sick move would be a front flip powerbomb from the top rope. I remember seeing it before an it was amazing an looked like it really hurt the guy that was on the rechieving end of it.

Is this what you're referring too?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df49kNN2yQA&feature=related

daverende5
01-19-2011, 10:42 AM
Mason Ryane's finisher is cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8YtdtHHR8s

AngrySamoan
01-19-2011, 10:46 AM
There were definitely a lot of non-believable finishers back in the day too.

Kevin Sullivan's Double Foot Stomp
Hulk Hogan's Leg Drop

Rich Cranium
01-19-2011, 11:23 AM
This:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kppGpbm8EHk

JohnnyPhantom
01-19-2011, 03:20 PM
Wow, nice hair stiener.

Adam Bomb II
01-20-2011, 04:32 PM
Always, always liked Bam Bams "Greetings From Asbury Park" (although i know it's a piledriver variation, and they are gone from the wwe).
And O'Haires "Widowmaker" looked BAD ASS!! Loved it.

I have to agree on the "Starship Pain"... It looks so poetic and great when JoMo is in the air, but the impact is just.... meh.

THE_CRIPPLER
01-20-2011, 09:01 PM
nobodies mentioned the worm or the peoples elbow dont get me wrong i enjoyed them and they were super over and was abig scotty fan and a big rock fan but looking back it doesnt look like it would keep a guy down for 3 seconds and in logical straight forward thinking why didnt scotty just pin the guy with the bulldog before the worm?lol

You Knowi was gonna mention the worm but that was more like a santino cobra comedy act....... The worm wouldnt pin a HHH or Austin it was just for comedy acts or low level guys to get pinned from.... Peoples elbow Followed the Rock Bottom or a some what acceptable spine buster but still it is a ridcules move also

THE_CRIPPLER
01-20-2011, 09:14 PM
I would have to agree with many things said. The one that I disagree with and i know some people this its stupid but I liked Umaga's Somoan Spike. The way that Umaga performed it made it look like the other guy could potentially have throat damage. The premise of the move is pure pain, a huge man putting all of his force into your throat. Mhmmm... yeah i dont think i want this to happen to me.

All of these moves look like guy are trying to be waywayway overcreative. Lets see more moves like The Dominator, the original Liontamer that looked like he was gonna break the other guys neck, Mcyntires ddt, canadian destroyer, F5, The Y2J Triple Powerbomb he did for awhile when he was facing cruiserweights.

I know i duplicated a few but ehhhh, that just means im agreeing.

I agree with everything you said except the Candadian Destroyer and the Triple Power Bomb..... The Triple power bobm was the 2nd most opponent assisted move i ever seen, you can see wrestlers pulling them self up for jericho, if guys like Brock Lesnar did it it would be amazing, but Jericho doesnt have the strenth to do it.... now the most Opponent assisted move i ever seen was the Candaian destroyer,to fake looking you can see the other guy flip, i know wrestling isnt real but do the guys have to littlerally put move effort in the move pinning them then the wrestlers doing the offensive move....
Brock Lesnar never did a Double power bomb and in mid motion on picking back up his opponent turn it in to a f-5.... Cena could do the same With the AA...... basicly when you pick them up for the 3rd Power bomb jerk them up in one motion to a firemans carry and you have the option to do a F-5 or a AA oreven a DVD
I never understood why

THE_CRIPPLER
01-20-2011, 09:17 PM
This:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kppGpbm8EHk

Wasnt there a video of him turning a suplex in to a regular pile driver? but this was a amazing move, i remember when the harts fought the Steiners and he did it to Owen and Owen sold it like he would a clothesline.... but hell that was a amazing tag match who ever didnt see it look it up or buy the Hart and Soul DVD

xStraightxEdgexSaviorx
01-20-2011, 09:30 PM
Wait a minute, did you just say (and yes I am paraphrasing) "Today you have weak looking moves like the AA, but back in the day you had great moves like the Rock Bottom." WTH?!? The Rock Bottom looked just as, if not more weak than the AA.

EDIT: Plus it's not like the moves are really supposed to hurt people anyway. Their just supposed to look cool. With that being said I have to disagree about Starship Pain too. Even if he doesn't hit it flush all the time, it still looks awesome and it isn't like it's the easiest move to pull off. I do like the fact that he's incorporated a Wizard into his moveset though. I do wish he turned it into a Shining Wizard, but the move is booked strong anyway so I guess I'm just nitpicking.

THE_CRIPPLER
01-20-2011, 11:07 PM
Wait a minute, did you just say (and yes I am paraphrasing) "Today you have weak looking moves like the AA, but back in the day you had great moves like the Rock Bottom." WTH?!? The Rock Bottom looked just as, if not more weak than the AA.

EDIT: Plus it's not like the moves are really supposed to hurt people anyway. Their just supposed to look cool. With that being said I have to disagree about Starship Pain too. Even if he doesn't hit it flush all the time, it still looks awesome and it isn't like it's the easiest move to pull off. I do like the fact that he's incorporated a Wizard into his moveset though. I do wish he turned it into a Shining Wizard, but the move is booked strong anyway so I guess I'm just nitpicking.

The Rock bottom wasnt the greatest finisher but it was a good uranagi suplex (cant spell it). it was more beilevable... SSP looks terrible you have to touch your opponent for the finisher to work, if finishing moves were just sopuse to look good than they brink PAC in and have him rule the whole WWE with his standing shooting star torpedo move what ever its call, they have to look effective, something like the peddigree,something that looks like it would hurt, SSP looks like it hurt JoMo more, i take a 1,000 SSP's and wouldnt even flinch........AA isnt a horrible move but its to simple it looks like a firemans carry, and so does wastland.

Tommy Thunder
01-20-2011, 11:23 PM
The sitout sideslam that Mason Ryan used on Cena on RAW looks dominating. Good to see that they didn't give him a shit finisher like they did with others!!
(Vladmir Kozlov is 6"8, and his finisher when he debuted was an inverted ddt, same goes for Vance Archer).

Unpopular1
04-04-2011, 03:14 PM
I know this is late coming but I finally found this thread. One reason for weaker looking finishers is safety. Why don't we see piledrivers as much, or for that matter swinging neckbreakers. They have to look at what is safe so no one gets really injured. But yes, a lot out there look weak. Give me a few and I'll name some.

Sypheres
04-04-2011, 03:40 PM
And yet the funny thing is Layla has a damned good finisher using the Sit Out Hangman's Neckbreaker. Not only is a pretty decent move, but she performs it well too. Rick Rude would be proud!

Sypheres
04-04-2011, 03:41 PM
In fact, come to think of it... The divas have some pretty damned good finishers! Its just a shame they get botched too often :(

xAzureSkye
04-04-2011, 03:50 PM
Agreed, the Divas have a lot of great finishing moves, here are just a few.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScPltynRtEY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIKsZSbFpqY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxUJ6b2IKkQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORr4lWpzsxk

THEKEVINBRAND
04-04-2011, 04:58 PM
I miss this in TNA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YBs3I8kDuw

SESAfro
04-04-2011, 05:45 PM
You guys failed to mention this good finisher:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfQkfW8ABr8

BoycottTNA
04-04-2011, 06:08 PM
CM Punk Indie Finisher

Pepsi Plunge (Top rope pedigree, doesn't now do for obvious reasons)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AstFlUu22Fo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVMyp9f7v_M