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SaberToothTigerz
01-02-2011, 10:28 AM
what in your opinnion are the most painfull submission holds u have whitnessed?
in my opinnion it was this one performed by alicia fox
i know i could have chosen one from daniel bryan, or benoit's or angle's book but this one seems painfull as hell
knowing melina is flexible, still this performed to anyone could break u like a twig.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G7pS3MW_oY&feature=related

SgtGohan
01-02-2011, 11:03 AM
- Ankle lock
- Regal Stretch
- Gogoplata
- Figure four leglock
- Liontamer

steveorton
01-02-2011, 11:08 AM
@Gohan, You mean the walls of jericho, the lion tamer is not a submission and idk if all of you would agree but I like the rings of saturn, or that submission Batista used on Cena in 2010, I'm jus sayin...

RomanFlare
01-02-2011, 11:13 AM
@Gohan, You mean the walls of jericho, the lion tamer is not a submission and idk if all of you would agree but I like the rings of saturn, or that submission Batista used on Cena in 2010, I'm jus sayin...

What. Liontamer not a submission?

Edit: The next post has a much better video. Ouch o.O

SgtGohan
01-02-2011, 11:13 AM
@Gohan, You mean the walls of jericho, the lion tamer is not a submission and idk if all of you would agree but I like the rings of saturn, or that submission Batista used on Cena in 2010, I'm jus sayin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGrswQWOSTU

It is steveorton, its the walls of jericho with the knee on the face/neck.

steveorton
01-02-2011, 11:32 AM
Sorry SgtGohan bout that I thought it wasn't, thanks for the correction.

Snair
01-02-2011, 11:41 AM
How abt tonga death grip?

SaberToothTigerz
01-02-2011, 12:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGrswQWOSTU

It is steveorton, its the walls of jericho with the knee on the face/neck.

striker says its the walls of jericho
lol
shouldnt it be named something else?
i mean with a knee to his skull
its a variation of his original submission hold
pretty much like a single leg boston crab and a full boston crab

Tommy Thunder
01-02-2011, 12:17 PM
Most submissions are painful if enough pressure is applied. A simple wristlock or hammerlock can break your wrist or arm.
But seriously, the ankle lock, figure 4, sharpshoter, and cloverleaf are very painful leg/back submissions. The anaconda vise is a painful arm/neck submission.

SaberToothTigerz
01-02-2011, 12:20 PM
Michael cole: THE OCTUPUS!!!!!!!

HeelTurn
01-02-2011, 12:32 PM
The ankle lock, if done right it looks devastating and painful.

Allison
01-02-2011, 12:36 PM
the dreaded pretzel hold

(google it) :)

Chapel
01-02-2011, 12:47 PM
The Labell Lock looks pretty painful .Look how Zac Ryder's arm was bent when he was in it on Raw last week.

AgeoftheFallguy
01-02-2011, 12:50 PM
did any one see the list of top wwe submission guys? some reason they had the miz discussing these holds and people. why I have no idea. I mean I guess hes the champ but that doesn't mean hes a good submission wrestler. He then says during the piece t hat any move he taps out to must be painful and also says Danial Bryn is a joke to be on the list despite the fact that he had made him tap a few times. Just kinda made him sound stupid in my book.

Dierdorf
01-02-2011, 01:19 PM
What about when the combo of the Walls of Jerico and the cripple cross face by beniot??

Tommy Thunder
01-02-2011, 01:23 PM
What about when the combo of the Walls of Jerico and the cripple cross face by beniot??

Now THAT looked painful!!

xStraightxEdgexSaviorx
01-02-2011, 01:47 PM
Skip to 6:30. It's #4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWtb4hoYlqw

Rich Cranium
01-02-2011, 02:20 PM
London Dungeon by Nigel Mcguinness looks pretty brutal!

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 02:26 PM
-Crossface/Lebell lock
-Ankle Lock
-Walls of Jericho
-Gogoplata
-Regal Stretch
-Anaconda Vice
-Torture Rack
-Figure 4 Leg Lock
-Brock Lock
-Haas of Pain
-Texas Cloverleaf
-Sharpshooter
-Cattle Mutilation

My picks of painful submissions. Haas of Pain gets most brutal.

Rich Cranium
01-02-2011, 02:30 PM
-Crossface/Lebell lock
-Ankle Lock
-Walls of Jericho
-Gogoplata
-Regal Stretch
-Anaconda Vice
-Torture Rack
-Figure 4 Leg Lock
-Brock Lock
-Haas of Pain
-Texas Cloverleaf
-Sharpshooter
-Cattle Mutilation

My picks of painful submissions. Haas of Pain gets most brutal.

Were most of these moves established in Japan and Mexico? Seems like federations in those countries were using many of the moves in this thread first.

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 02:34 PM
Were most of these moves established in Japan and Mexico? Seems like federations in those countries were using many of the moves in this thread first.

Don't know their origins....:\

I just know they are painful xD

I do know that Dean Malenko gave Beniot the Crossface and I think Eddie the Texas Cloverleaf(Lasso from El Paso)

Rich Cranium
01-02-2011, 02:38 PM
Don't know their origins....:\

I just know they are painful xD

I do know that Dean Malenko gave Beniot the Crossface and I think Eddie the Texas Cloverleaf(Lasso from El Paso)

And Konnan taught Bret Hart the Sharpshooter :)

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 02:41 PM
Oh! These two moves on my list.

-Cross Armbreaker=Alberto Del Rio
-Billy Goat's Curse(Chicago Crab)=Colt Cabana

NexSES
01-02-2011, 04:08 PM
striker says its the walls of jericho
lol

actually, i think thats the original walls of jericho

Lowki
01-02-2011, 04:37 PM
If we are talking about painful as in if it was used in a real situation effectively;
Any armbar.
Ankle lock.
Gogoplata - Hard to set up, but it's rare in the fact that it is a choke that crushes the wind pipe (air) rather than to the side of the neck (blood chokes)
Tazzmission (kata-ha-jime) - in the few seconds you are awake.
Crippler Crossface

Things like the torture rack seem to be more for show.

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 06:41 PM
If we are talking about painful as in if it was used in a real situation effectively;
Any armbar.
Ankle lock.
Gogoplata - Hard to set up, but it's rare in the fact that it is a choke that crushes the wind pipe (air) rather than to the side of the neck (blood chokes)
Tazzmission (kata-ha-jime) - in the few seconds you are awake.
Crippler Crossface

Things like the torture rack seem to be more for show.

Torture Rack can be painful as a submission. Just work the back and then do it.

ed is dead
01-02-2011, 07:02 PM
the stf, cus' it clearly hurts john cena too, just look at his face whenever he applies it to someone

Jonas120109
01-02-2011, 07:34 PM
Cloverleaf

Lock it on my cousins all the time

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 07:37 PM
Oh! These two moves on my list.

-Cross Armbreaker=Alberto Del Rio
-Billy Goat's Curse(Chicago Crab)=Colt Cabana

http://getlostphotography.smugmug.com/Other/2010-07-16-ROH-on-HDNet/DPP1001/943075122_aUsKA-L-1.jpg

Jonas120109
01-02-2011, 08:02 PM
Damn that hurts!

The Brown One
01-02-2011, 08:17 PM
http://getlostphotography.smugmug.com/Other/2010-07-16-ROH-on-HDNet/DPP1001/943075122_aUsKA-L-1.jpg

Love that move :D

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 08:28 PM
Love that move :D

I love it too. Simple and painful!

I remember a NWA Hollywood show when he did that and grabbed the opponents head and pulled it. THAT looked painful.

Saiga
01-02-2011, 08:43 PM
ankle lock n crossface at the same time will leave you hurting for days.

The Brown One
01-02-2011, 08:48 PM
I love it too. Simple and painful!

I remember a NWA Hollywood show when he did that and grabbed the opponents head and pulled it. THAT looked painful.

OMG sick! I can imagine that would hurt like hell. Is it up on YT?

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 08:58 PM
OMG sick! I can imagine that would hurt like hell. Is it up on YT?

I don't think its in youtube for some reason but I have went back to my NWA Hollywood thread for the website.

http://nwahollywood.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=112%3Atelevision&catid=14%3Anwa-championship-wrestling-from-hollywood&Itemid=10

Episode 14 around 43:30

The Brown One
01-02-2011, 09:05 PM
I don't think its in youtube for some reason but I have went back to my NWA Hollywood thread for the website.

http://nwahollywood.com/main/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=112%3Atelevision&catid=14%3Anwa-championship-wrestling-from-hollywood&Itemid=10

Episode 14 around 43:30

Can't open it on Chrome for some reason. I'll try on Mozilla after a nap. Goodnight.

Necroyeti
01-02-2011, 09:05 PM
Awesome Kong had MsChif up in the torture rack once, but kept bending MsChif's spine so that she was effectively kicking her own head in at the same time. Pretty awesome.

TARANTULA MOTHERFUCKERS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDYQFeaHxYs

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 09:12 PM
Awesome Kong had MsChif up in the torture rack once, but kept bending MsChif's spine so that she was effectively kicking her own head in at the same time. Pretty awesome.

TARANTULA MOTHERFUCKERS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDYQFeaHxYs

Tarantula is really cool and painful!

The Brown One
01-02-2011, 09:16 PM
What the hell do you call this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPv15n9STk

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 09:19 PM
What the hell do you call this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yPv15n9STk

I would call it STF Cradle Clutch

Lance Storm
01-02-2011, 09:25 PM
Cattle Mutilation

The Brown One
01-02-2011, 09:25 PM
I would call it STF Cradle Clutch

Looks devestating.

SilverGhost
01-02-2011, 09:28 PM
Looks devestating.

I don't know the names XD I was guessing on that BUT it looks painful as hell.

The Brown One
01-02-2011, 10:05 PM
I don't know the names XD I was guessing on that BUT it looks painful as hell.

They said the name in the video, but I think even they were trying to come up with a name, since they hadn't seen it before. Its just that awesome! Doesn't look that good, but looks damn painful.

Bodom
01-02-2011, 10:12 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5F1TguXbc8

Mike Quackenbush FTW

The Brown One
01-02-2011, 10:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5F1TguXbc8

Mike Quackenbush FTW

Damn that looked painful. The guys whole body was bent!

Tommy Thunder
01-03-2011, 09:25 AM
How about the Brock Lock that Brock Lesnar did, he locked in a few painful looking ones in his time including this one on Benoit:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHR1aG4UDw0

68wPayne
01-04-2011, 11:24 AM
I'm going with the Brock Lock, Texas Cloverleaf, or the Gorilla Clutch
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