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SilverGhost
03-11-2011, 12:53 AM
Watching Cena sober? You're not, like, actually serious are you??

Unfortunately yes.

(Doesn't drink)

SilverGhost
03-11-2011, 12:54 AM
Thanks but no thanks. If I give my liver a rest it might stop working, we wouldn't want that to happen now would we?:D

Eh....You got beer and I got soda. As long as we can enjoy wrestling, its all good right?

Rich Cranium
03-11-2011, 12:54 AM
Thanks but no thanks. If I give my liver a rest it might stop working, we wouldn't want that to happen now would we?:D

I bet Cena is funny as hell to those who indulge in the finer greens!

IPEEINTHESHOWER
03-11-2011, 12:55 AM
Aw shucks :o

lol....beer is the nectar of the Gods

Funny how you brought that up. I was just talking about that somewhere else on here just the other day. Great minds think alike.:D

Bodom
03-11-2011, 12:55 AM
The only time that I'v drank during a wrestling show, I was home playing the Impact Drinking Game with some friends.

Basically you take a shot every time TNA does something that doesn't make sense. Needless to say, I almost died.

Polly-Pablo
03-11-2011, 12:55 AM
What I do best.

Then we should be able to communicate well.....

SilverGhost
03-11-2011, 12:56 AM
The only time that I'v drank during a wrestling show, I was home playing the Impact Drinking Game with some friends.

Basically you take a shot every time TNA does something that doesn't make sense. Needless to say, I almost died.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA xD

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2011, 12:56 AM
I bet Cena is funny as hell to those who indulge in the finer greens!

Try some good West Virginia Moonshine!!!!! and watching Cena!!!!

Bodom
03-11-2011, 12:57 AM
Then we should be able to communicate well.....

It's quite possible.

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2011, 12:57 AM
The only time that I'v drank during a wrestling show, I was home playing the Impact Drinking Game with some friends.

Basically you take a shot every time TNA does something that doesn't make sense. Needless to say, I almost died.

Advice don't play that game with Scott Hall......

IPEEINTHESHOWER
03-11-2011, 12:58 AM
I bet Cena is funny as hell to those who indulge in the finer greens!


Mother natures finest, ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!

Rich Cranium
03-11-2011, 12:58 AM
Try some good West Virginia Moonshine!!!!! and watching Cena!!!!

- thinks of the movies Deliverance and Wrong Turn - ;)

Bodom
03-11-2011, 12:58 AM
Advice don't play that game with Scott Hall......

I would actually love to drink with Scott Hall lol

Polly-Pablo
03-11-2011, 12:59 AM
Try some good West Virginia Moonshine!!!!! and watching Cena!!!!

I drink Henry's smooth, a glass of Smarties and a few glasses of wine.....and then he's funny as hell!

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2011, 01:00 AM
- thinks of the movies Deliverance and Wrong Turn - ;)

Deliverance was actually Geogia and Tennessee!!!!!

Polly-Pablo
03-11-2011, 01:01 AM
Funny how you brought that up. I was just talking about that somewhere else on here just the other day. Great minds think alike.:D

Certainly do....although you're going to have to be the great mind here....mine's fried from years and years of over-indulgence

Rich Cranium
03-11-2011, 01:01 AM
Deliverance was actually Geogia and Tennessee!!!!!

Not the same? just playing dude!

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2011, 01:01 AM
Deliverance was actually Geogia and Tennessee!!!!!

Georgia.....

IPEEINTHESHOWER
03-11-2011, 01:02 AM
I would actually love to drink with Scott Hall lol

me too. I bet we wouldnt remember where we went or what we did but I'm pretty sure I know where we would end up
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHxCZX9_kx18UlJjB8F3j-VXOJwdpVCRMatXzcom0o2kDtTdS0kQ

Bodom
03-11-2011, 01:03 AM
me too. I bet we wouldnt remember where we went or what we did but I'm pretty sure I know where we would end up
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHxCZX9_kx18UlJjB8F3j-VXOJwdpVCRMatXzcom0o2kDtTdS0kQ

But you'd have a fun fucking time.

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2011, 01:03 AM
Not the same? just playing dude!

Thats good and don't knock WV great minds came from here Barney Fife and Gilligan!!!!

Rich Cranium
03-11-2011, 01:04 AM
But you'd have a fun fucking time.

But if you end up there, you'll really be discussing back doors! ;)

SilverGhost
03-11-2011, 01:04 AM
Certainly do....although you're going to have to be the great mind here....mine's fried from years and years of over-indulgence

Wisdom is forever.

Bodom
03-11-2011, 01:04 AM
Don Knotts is a f'n legend. No doubt about that.

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2011, 01:05 AM
Thats good and don't knock WV great minds came from here Barney Fife and Gilligan!!!!

Replying to my ownself again......
They actually funnier then Cena!!!!!

Bodom
03-11-2011, 01:05 AM
But if you end up there, you'll really be discussing back doors! ;)

I'm sure Scott Hall still has some WCW money to bail us out with :rolleyes:

Rich Cranium
03-11-2011, 01:05 AM
Wisdom is forever.

Did you just watch Karate Kid?

Bodom
03-11-2011, 01:06 AM
Did you just watch Karate Kid?

He read a fortune cookie.

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2011, 01:07 AM
He read a fortune cookie.

Magic 8 Ball

Polly-Pablo
03-11-2011, 01:07 AM
Wisdom is forever.

Hmmm, but so are my hangovers it seems.....

IPEEINTHESHOWER
03-11-2011, 01:07 AM
Certainly do....although you're going to have to be the great mind here....mine's fried from years and years of over-indulgence

IPEEINTHESHOWER's brain is fully functional but somewhere in the back I heard a doctor say a screw was loose;) Not to worry as he is perfectly capable of using his other head.;)

TheMadThinker
03-11-2011, 01:08 AM
Did you just watch Karate Kid?

I think wax on, wax off may have a whole different meaning in jail.

SilverGhost
03-11-2011, 01:08 AM
He read a fortune cookie.

Sorry I'm not into Chinese as much as Japanese lol

But yeah.....IMO the only thing that makes IPITS and I similar is wisdom lol Just he is more of a veteran at it.

SilverGhost
03-11-2011, 01:10 AM
IPEEINTHESHOWER's brain is fully functional but somewhere in the back I heard a doctor say a screw was loose;) Not to worry as he is perfectly capable of using his other head.;)

He was lying to you. Your brain is damaged. He didn't want to tell you the truth lol

IPEEINTHESHOWER
03-11-2011, 01:10 AM
I'm sure Scott Hall still has some WCW money to bail us out with :rolleyes:

IPEEINTHESHOWER has bail money, I just hope we didn't do someone so serious that bail would be denied. That would suck.

SilverGhost
03-11-2011, 01:13 AM
IPEEINTHESHOWER has bail money, I just hope we didn't do someone so serious that bail would be denied. That would suck.

One step ahead!

Bodom
03-11-2011, 01:14 AM
IPEEINTHESHOWER has bail money, I just hope we didn't do someone so serious that bail would be denied. That would suck.

Indeed it would.

Polly-Pablo
03-11-2011, 01:16 AM
IPEEINTHESHOWER has bail money, I just hope we didn't do someone so serious that bail would be denied. That would suck.

Interesting choice of words there :D

SilverGhost
03-11-2011, 01:17 AM
Interesting choice of words there :D

He knows he has to be careful. Especially drunk in the streets.

IPEEINTHESHOWER
03-11-2011, 01:18 AM
Interesting choice of words there :D

hahahahahhahahaha What I meant to say was something. hahahahahhahahahahahaha

Time for IPEEINTHESHOWER to go bed.

TheMadThinker
03-11-2011, 01:22 AM
Interesting choice of words there :D

Yeah, never figured he was in to those protein based beverages.

Trips88
03-11-2011, 01:22 AM
hahahahahhahahaha What I meant to say was something. hahahahahhahahahahahaha

Time for IPEEINTHESHOWER to go bed.

That was a pretty epic win right there! :)

KJ PUNK
03-11-2011, 01:54 AM
WOW...I go away for a few hours and the derailed thread managed to get onto a different set of tracks and derail again. Many have died in the chaos but the ride has been EPIC! And yes, i've read all 25 (and counting) pages of this thread. :D

Bodom
03-11-2011, 02:10 AM
I can't imagine what reading this thread is like lol

Kashdinero
03-11-2011, 04:04 AM
I can't imagine what reading this thread is like lol

I can.....

This was simultaneously the best and worst thread ever.

Well done to everyone/shame on you all.

;) :(

hystrix
03-11-2011, 09:21 AM
Really guys? Really?

We go from some irroneous notion that every wrestler has to bleed to make it realistic...to jokes about sodomy...to drinking games... to what now? Awful, just awful...

KJ PUNK
03-11-2011, 10:31 AM
Really guys? Really?

We go from some irroneous notion that every wrestler has to bleed to make it realistic...to jokes about sodomy...to drinking games... to what now? Awful, just awful...

You mean AWESOME, just AWESOME

Polly-Pablo
03-12-2011, 11:03 AM
Really guys? Really?

We go from some irroneous notion that every wrestler has to bleed to make it realistic...to jokes about sodomy...to drinking games... to what now? Awful, just awful...

Just a bit of fun.....

SilverGhost
03-12-2011, 11:13 AM
Just a bit of fun.....

Ah ignore that.

Actually it was good just to have a convo here. It was very active on that day lol

HCollins-TNA1
03-14-2011, 11:36 PM
Again the reason why WWE needed to use some blood tonight....
Cena took 2 shots in the head with the mic..... then a DDT on the steel stage and then skull crushing finale..... I mean it lack the reality.....
Not unless next week Cena can't wrestle cause he suffering froma consusion but it unlikely.....

Bodom
03-14-2011, 11:41 PM
Agreed. A little bit of blood would have been a great way to really driven home that attack. They've been bending a lot of rules lately and I wish they bent that one.

HCollins-TNA1
03-15-2011, 12:01 AM
Notice they letted Khali bleed but that was by accident!!!

Hesterica
03-15-2011, 12:23 AM
I can't imagine what reading this thread is like lol

I challenged myself and I just finished reading the thread...

Bodom
03-15-2011, 12:40 AM
I challenged myself and I just finished reading the thread...

Is it as awful as imagine it is?

Hesterica
03-15-2011, 01:02 AM
Is it as awful as imagine it is?

All of a sudden I feel like needing to hug something cuddly...

skanky
03-15-2011, 01:20 AM
cena is prolly the last person they would have bleed considering his fan base. seeing em cry when he had to join nexus there is no way they would have the kids hero bleeding. if i had kids that worshipped cena i wouldnt want my kids to see him a bloody mess.

Polly-Pablo
03-20-2011, 06:25 AM
All of a sudden I feel like needing to hug something cuddly...

Lol....is it really that awful? Apologies, my bad (well, some of it) :o

Attitude-Era
04-02-2011, 03:20 AM
What would you name it? Based on everything within our current WWE age..

For me, I would have to say it's either the PG Kid Era or the SMUG Era.

..PG I wouldn't really have to explain to ya but SMUG is my own little term used to describe the wrestlers of today with their personalities of those always being smug about themselves for ex: "I am <Insert Name> dang it <PG language> and I am your current champion because I am just that freaking good and all these fans know it <Insert Smirk>" & along with the smug comes the act of talk trash then sneak attack..

Never again do we get F-u this hell ya that eff you say..?<Insert Stunner> in middle of the ring..

Rated_R(ob)KO
04-02-2011, 05:56 AM
I've always just called it the "PG Era" I mean, wrestling was PG before 1997 anyway so, I mean, technically it's back to where it was.

SESAfro
04-02-2011, 10:36 AM
I would say the Modern Era because it has been reformed after being reformed...sort of like Modern Art.

Lowki
04-02-2011, 10:49 AM
Smackdown has ALWAYS been PG anyways.

monctonvike
04-02-2011, 11:21 AM
is there a name for the early 2000's I just got done watching wm 16,17,18,19,and 20 is some of those wm post attitude ?

Maybe we call nowadays attitude a.d?

The New Guy
04-02-2011, 11:34 AM
The entertaining era :)

merhardt03
04-02-2011, 12:45 PM
The New Generation.

maar13
04-02-2011, 12:54 PM
Smackdown has ALWAYS been PG anyways.

But that is also an statement the the PG crap means nothing really. I mean if the thign was completely PG and watch a rivalry like Batista VS Taker in 2007 or Angle VS Taker in 2006 or even Punk VS J. Hardy in 2009 just proves that the rating should mean nothing in the end.

SevenCagedTigers
04-02-2011, 01:16 PM
Smackdown has ALWAYS been PG anyways.

Tell that to Al Wilson's boner during the Dawn Marie wedding angle

thejman93
04-02-2011, 01:33 PM
The Attitude Adjustment Era.

Scottland
04-02-2011, 02:06 PM
is there a name for the early 2000's I just got done watching wm 16,17,18,19,and 20 is some of those wm post attitude ?

Maybe we call nowadays attitude a.d?

What in the hell are you talking about? Hello! The early 2000's were part of the Attitude Era. The Attitude Era was technically from 1997 to 2004. So, the name for the early 2000's was the Attitude Era.

P.S. As for the this Era? It should be called the Bubblegum Era.

WWTNA Mark
04-02-2011, 02:13 PM
What in the hell are you talking about? Hello! The early 2000's were part of the Attitude Era. The Attitude Era was technically from 1997 to 2004. So, the name for the early 2000's was the Attitude Era.

P.S. As for the this Era? It should be called the Bubblegum Era.

No. The A era ended in 2002.

Rich Cranium
04-02-2011, 02:57 PM
Right to Censor

Outsider
04-02-2011, 03:01 PM
Watered Down Era

Scottland
04-02-2011, 03:28 PM
No. The A era ended in 2002.

That really depends on who you ask. Some would say 2002 was the beginning of the Invasion Era but I know many people who feel that was part of the Attitude Era. Hell, the Attitude Era & the Invasion Era really go hand-and-hand (they were both TV-14 material). Many consider the Attitude Era died when when Rock & Austin both officially left the WWE in 2004. Granted, you could say the Attitude Era died in 2002 & then transmitted over to the Invasion Era. But me personally (many others), just call from '97 to '04 the Attitude Era.

Outsider
04-02-2011, 03:37 PM
The Attitude Era ended at WrestleMania X-Seven.

Scottland
04-02-2011, 04:17 PM
The Attitude Era ended at WrestleMania X-Seven.

That would be 2002. Funny thing is I've heard people say the Attitude Era died in 2001. This is one of those topics that seems to have a few various answers depending on how someone looks at it.

Scottland
04-02-2011, 04:23 PM
Capitol Wrestling Corporation Era (1954-1963)
World Wide Wrestling Federation Era (1963-1979)
World Wrestling Federation Era (1980-1985) even if it was still known as the WWF until 2002, there was no set era until WrestleMania I
Golden Age Era (1985-1993)
New Generation Era (1994-1997)
The Attitude Era (1998-2001)
In 2002, World Wrestling Federation Entertainment, Inc became known as World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc following a name dispute with the World Wlidlife Fund for Nature.
Ruthless Agression Era (2002-2007)
PG Era (2008-present)

Pretty good list but I think you forgot the Invasion Era which was from 2002-2004 (but many have just called this part of the Attitude Era) then transmitted to The Agression Era which was from 2005-2007.

The Brown One
04-02-2011, 05:09 PM
For fucks sakes its just a name. But if your'e going to go into details, then THEKEVINBRAND almost has it right.

Scottland
04-02-2011, 05:14 PM
For fucks sakes its just a name. But if your'e going to go into details, then THEKEVINBRAND almost has it right.

Calm down there man. It's just a little correction & that's all. No one said THEKEVINBRAND got it wrong as it is pretty much technically correct. No need to get bent out of shape over. Not having a good day mate?

The Brown One
04-02-2011, 05:22 PM
Calm down there man. It's just a little correction & that's all. No one said THEKEVINBRAND got it wrong as it is pretty much technically correct. No need to get bent out of shape over. Not having a good day mate?

No problem mate. I just figured that people were making too much of a deal over this. Besides, threads like this have happened several times before.

Scottland
04-02-2011, 05:31 PM
I didn't count The Invasion Era because it was only a short amount of time, but the Agression era started with their "Get the 'F' Out" campaign if i'm not mistaken

True, the Invasion Era was short but like I said earlier many have just counted it with the Attitude Era. As for the "Get the F Out" campaign? It started in 2002 just as WWF became WWE. Just for some proof. The Rock used it in his 2002 return to comment when Stone Cold took his ball & walked.

Here's the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5qdzQd0jTA

P.S. Man, was the city of Oakland on fire that night as that place exploded for The Rock.

SevenCagedTigers
04-02-2011, 08:07 PM
I distinctly recall both Edge and The Miz declaring it "The Era of Awesome".

So.

There.

Androo
04-02-2011, 08:11 PM
Jesus, fuckin, Christ, everthings a fucking era! {sarcasm}

What about the era of using feet to walk in arenas? Or the era of having buildings with lights? Or the era of using air, taken in to the lungs, by the act of breathing?

rsf8405
04-02-2011, 08:26 PM
Evolution Era.
We are going through with one of the Biggest Changes in a long time,The Movies,Pg,Social Networking,Legends Retiring,Totally new Faces Ect

hankamania83
04-02-2011, 08:33 PM
Golden era 83~93
New Generation 93~97
Attitude 97~03
Ruthless Agression 03~06


Imo, Modern 06~now..... They will name the era when its over and they start a new one.
If you think about it, it should be called the "Brand Era" and it started from 02~now, but thats just my veiw.

hankamania83
04-02-2011, 08:41 PM
@ Androo, in between all your fowl language, your ranting, your stupid humor. I managed to find absolutly nothing that made any sense whatsoever, and I along with anyone else who read what you wrote are now dumber for it....thank you

NightWolf
04-02-2011, 08:45 PM
I believe I heard a lot of people in the WWE refer to it as "The Transitional Era."

I like "The BubbleGum Era" though.. It has a ring to it.

Androo
04-02-2011, 11:52 PM
@ Androo, in between all your fowl language, your ranting, your stupid humor. I managed to find absolutly nothing that made any sense whatsoever, and I along with anyone else who read what you wrote are now dumber for it....thank you

Yeh, you did find things that made sense. You said it yourself, you found FOWL language, a rant, and stupid humour. Well not quite, actually. I never provided any language of the Aves class at all?! Hardly a rant was it? Two fucking "fuckings"? (oh, there's another two), come on, i'm sure you've seen much worse. Stupid, how so? Humour? Yes! If i have to effectively describe forms of sarcasm to you, then I sincerely doubt how much more dumber one can get after reading my previous comment. But after yours? Well, a well-structured sentence and use of appropriate words in the context surely wouldn't stretch your limits. Along with a basic grasp of picking up on the tone and meaning in a comment, wouldn't go a miss either. No, thank you.

Lowki
04-03-2011, 06:07 AM
But that is also an statement the the PG crap means nothing really. I mean if the thign was completely PG and watch a rivalry like Batista VS Taker in 2007 or Angle VS Taker in 2006 or even Punk VS J. Hardy in 2009 just proves that the rating should mean nothing in the end.
Yeah, PPVs after 2008 went PG. Raw only went PG in 1999-2005. The reason the rating went up was due to the sexual themes more than anything.


Tell that to Al Wilson's boner during the Dawn Marie wedding angle
It was still PG lol.

How can you call it the PG era when most of the WWF/Es history has been PG? I'd settle for something like the "Transitional era" or something to reference the fact that most of the legends of the 90s are almost all gone.

Dax
04-03-2011, 09:01 AM
The Short Hair era, because all the wrestlers with long hair are slowly fading... LOL.

Rich Cranium
04-03-2011, 09:22 AM
The Era of WWE saying TNA doesn't exist although they block Ric Flair's name and presence!

rko619
04-03-2011, 11:11 AM
the new blood era

Tommy Thunder
04-03-2011, 11:40 AM
For fucks sakes its just a name. But if your'e going to go into details, then THEKEVINBRAND almost has it right.

This. I could not care less what this era is called!! As long as what's put in front of me is good to watch, I'll be happy!! And so far in late 2010-now, it's been pretty awesome from the WWE, considering how bad some of the stuff was in late 2008-late 2010.

Attitude-Era
04-04-2011, 09:52 AM
P.S. As for the this Era? It should be called the Bubblegum Era.

Ahahahaha.. wtf.


Watered Down Era

Ya, most people call it that these days.


Ruthless Agression Era (2002-2007)
PG Era (2008-present)

I agree with your whole era post since it's pretty spot on but I myself personally and (IMO) never really felt that the Ruthless Aggression Era was well...Ruthless Aggression. I just toss it into the PG Era in a way.

sincara
05-08-2011, 09:49 AM
i hate wwpg

Stinger187
05-08-2011, 11:10 AM
i hate wwpg

that was random! I don't hate it I just wish there was some better writing which would help A LOT!!!

Ruthless_Aggression
05-08-2011, 11:14 AM
I miss Mae Young giving birth to human body parts and Lita miscarriage angles... Oh and bring back Katie Vick!

xAzureSkye
05-08-2011, 11:22 AM
I miss Mae Young giving birth to human body parts and Lita miscarriage angles... Oh and bring back Katie Vick!

Who's Katie Vick? But i agree bring back the wacky sexy storylines, like Val Venis choosing a mop over Terri, The Kat and Terri's stinkface match at Summerslam. Mae Young competing in the Miss Royal Rumble bikini contest

Bodom
05-08-2011, 11:23 AM
Who's Katie Vick?t

The mannequin that Triple H had sex with in a casket?

SilverGhost
05-08-2011, 11:24 AM
How can anyone forget Katie Vick? lol

Rich Cranium
05-08-2011, 12:20 PM
I miss Mae Young giving birth to human body parts and Lita miscarriage angles... Oh and bring back Katie Vick!


Who's Katie Vick? But i agree bring back the wacky sexy storylines, like Val Venis choosing a mop over Terri, The Kat and Terri's stinkface match at Summerslam. Mae Young competing in the Miss Royal Rumble bikini contest


The mannequin that Triple H had sex with in a casket?


How can anyone forget Katie Vick? lol

You guys really enjoy the raunchy storylines.

Los Conquistador
05-08-2011, 12:24 PM
I miss Mae Young giving birth to human body parts and Lita miscarriage angles... Oh and bring back Katie Vick!


Katie Vick
A Direction in WWE Storylines that which they would never recover
The Most Memorable part of it taking place right next door to an actual Funeral
Thank God no one mixed the rooms up

Enforcer23
06-02-2011, 09:30 AM
now i dont really know how to go about this but bear with me....ok so to solve this whole pg thing i was wondering what if wwe joint the roster back up to one and have raw m 15+ and have smackdown the pg show...and a world title and wwe title could be unified maybe bringing more prestige to the title and so forth...so add ya ideas and thoughts i think id be a great idea

Black Mass Reverend
06-02-2011, 10:19 AM
Ok... I'm a grizzly! Jokes aside, I don't think there's anything to solve. In another few years we'll probably get another Attitude era anyway. Just be patient and wait for the Cenation to hit puberty.

P.S. You should probably get that wound checked out ;)

ut11smithcor
06-02-2011, 10:24 AM
Ok... I'm a grizzly! Jokes aside, I don't think there's anything to solve. In another few years we'll probably get another Attitude era anyway. Just be patient and wait for the Cenation to hit puberty.

This^^ lol
but you see what i think is this..
We had Hogans era.. it was good.
Then you had a weak point in wrestling over the years with no exciting superstars because they were building them until The Rock/Attitude Era
then a small weak point before the Invasion Era involving the same guys
now were having a longer weak point as the New Kurt Angles and Rocks and Steve Austins are being built in front of us, FACT is it will get better.
always does. I just hope this new Mexican wrestler or Chavo they could make into a new Eddie because i miss him, and he was hilarious lol.

Enforcer23
06-02-2011, 10:29 AM
Ok... I'm a grizzly! Jokes aside, I don't think there's anything to solve. In another few years we'll probably get another Attitude era anyway. Just be patient and wait for the Cenation to hit puberty.

P.S. You should probably get that wound checked out ;)

hahaha yeah i have a problam with typing just a bit to fast haha

Black Mass Reverend
06-02-2011, 10:33 AM
hahaha yeah i have a problam with typing just a bit to fast haha

Just having a bit of fun lol. Glad you're not offended.

Xpacfan
06-02-2011, 12:28 PM
now i dont really know how to go about this but bear with me....ok so to solve this whole pg thing i was wondering what if wwe joint the roster back up to one and have raw m 15+ and have smackdown the pg show...and a world title and wwe title could be unified maybe bringing more prestige to the title and so forth...so add ya ideas and thoughts i think id be a great idea

This has been said tons of time by the IWC but at the end of the day, the WWE is going to do what it wants. The only way to get great ideas across to them is by letting them know that their current ones aren't...via not continuing to give them ratings.

tshizzy34
06-02-2011, 02:29 PM
This has been mentioned about 100 times before on here and the same answer as it always is, is that John Cena is the top superstar for WWE. He sells 90% of his merch to kids under 13. Until someone else comes in or Cena fades away WWE will remain PG for years to come. Not to mention Vince is cashing in on his deals with Mattel & K-Mart with WWE action figures and what not. There is no way he is gonna go past PG so long as those deals are still in place. I honestly don't mind the PG as of now. You still see scantily clad hot women, there are still hints of swearing, and PG+ quotes and words so why are people bitching so much? Does everyone just have some fascination with seeing more blood and more swearing on a wrestling show, cuz that's about the only difference in the ratings tbh.

the-rocks-stunner
06-02-2011, 02:31 PM
WWE to go TV-Y in 6 months :P

Rassling_Fan
06-02-2011, 02:32 PM
It's more nostalgia pains than real complaints. WWE did this exact thing to the older fans when the Attitude Era showed up. They either got over it or simply left.

Moe21
06-02-2011, 03:01 PM
This whole pg thing isnt that bad. The only thing I would like to see is the SD and RAW brands combine. I think it will bring more ratings for both programs. Also Id like to see it get a tiny bit edgier. They are already starting to do that and I think it would make both the pg fans and the attitude era fans happier. Im not saying have the divas strip and all that stuff they use to do but just make things a little more edgier.

AOF666
06-02-2011, 04:09 PM
It's not the pg I having a problem with, it's how they been run ning their show. Both show recently been focused around 2 people. That means no matter how good someone else is, they will be a jobber. Vince been slacking on building stars, in the 80's and 90's they had enough stars so if their face was out or took vacation, it didn't hurt them at all. Now they are only pushing Cena and Orton. I don't understand is that Vince been in this game for a long time, he should no what to do.

Daffy Duck's Finest
06-02-2011, 06:07 PM
This whole pg thing isnt that bad. The only thing I would like to see is the SD and RAW brands combine. I think it will bring more ratings for both programs. Also Id like to see it get a tiny bit edgier. They are already starting to do that and I think it would make both the pg fans and the attitude era fans happier. Im not saying have the divas strip and all that stuff they use to do but just make things a little more edgier.

I agree entirely with this statement.

Although in addition I'd like to see WWE using Superstars in the way that Smackdown is being run at the moment - That being the show to breed up and coming talent, in addition to tweaking some of the wrestler's gimmicks slightly. That way it could get away with not showing any of the 'elite' superstars on that programme

lewis666m
06-02-2011, 08:39 PM
I always thought 2nd hour of RAW wasnt PG anyway i mean since when has use of the word Bastard been PG? Half the Rocks material isnt PG either, even Mr Cena himself has been guilty of some dodgy language recently.

The Hit Man
06-02-2011, 09:28 PM
In a way I like that it's PG because when you do get the odd moment of TV-14 it receives a bigger pop and brings back nostalgia of the Attitude Era.

However, the WWE's problem is not that it's PG but, like someone said, they're not using there talent correctly. They need to build up stronger characters.

S.E. Zero
06-03-2011, 03:56 AM
WWE to go TV-Y in 6 months :P

If this happens I can only imagine the writer's making a stable based of the Teletubbies, who do you think will be the 4 unfortunates to be a part of this stables?

I know Santino and Yoshi Tatsu are probably shoe in's for those roles but I cant imagine who the other two might be.....maybe that knucklehead called Big Show and a returning Goldust lol.

xAzureSkye
06-04-2011, 07:03 AM
Pg sucks dfdfshbng ATTITEWD ERA RULEZ!!!! [/sarcasm

K2Jelly
06-04-2011, 10:10 AM
I didn't think this thread would be relevant anymore.

RomanFlare
06-04-2011, 10:15 AM
I miss Kelly Kelly's strip teases!!!

xAzureSkye
06-04-2011, 11:32 AM
Hmm me too RomanFlare :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl0doHXpQDY

Automatic
06-04-2011, 11:38 AM
I hate it that, that Barney bitch is hogging the TV time, while obviously Rock and Austin should and would bring back the 'F'.
Attitude Era: Fuck yeah.
* thinks about the baby with fist.*

Ruthless_Aggression
06-04-2011, 11:47 AM
Goddammit motherfucking bullshit PG Barney shit. Goddamn little kiddie fuckers don't know rasslin' is serious business!

WWTNA Mark
06-05-2011, 12:19 AM
"WTF WWE!?! Barney's lover is fucking stale and no fucking stars are built!!! WWE is trying to punish us with this PG bullshit!!! I'm going to punish them by watching UFC and never watching that fucking kiddie show again!!! CENA Sux 4life!!! PG kiddie wrestling is bad!!!"

Just trying to keep this stupid thread alive! :D

TNA 'The very best'
08-08-2011, 12:08 AM
Because before the PG era, WWE did shit like this.


http://wweo.net/?movie=/watch/5654/wwe-divas---undressed

TNA 'The very best'
08-08-2011, 12:09 AM
Oh and i love the King, i forgot how funny he is.

TheDevilsAdvocate
08-08-2011, 12:12 AM
The WWE is in the middle of a transition period so who knows.. They might go back toward more edgier stuff. Hell, they are already letting the WWE superstars curse like sailors nowadays. So anything beyond this point is highly possible.

IrkenInvader
08-08-2011, 12:28 AM
Umm...... No.

jrsckilla23
08-08-2011, 12:30 AM
The WWE is in the middle of a transition period so who knows.. They might go back toward more edgier stuff. Hell, they are already letting the WWE superstars curse like sailors nowadays. So anything beyond this point is highly possible.

I hope your right man cuz if they start doing different things now I want to see a Cena heel turn cuz I've Cena Nuff never been a fan of his and never will. They also need to make these woman wrestlers tougher like Trish vs Lita they had some good matches. And we need a new monster in the WWE they don't have that right now since Undertaker is going to retire pretty soon.

The Brown One
08-08-2011, 01:35 AM
It seems to me that if you needed blood, slutty divas, weapons and cursing to make wrestling enjoyable, you're immature. Its a disappointment that people forget what wrestling is really about. The Attitude Era was great while it lasted, but seriously, grow up.

Hesterica
08-08-2011, 01:57 AM
The Attitude Era was great and all but I agree with The Brown One 100%.

The_Awesome_One
08-08-2011, 04:51 AM
It seems to me that if you needed blood, slutty divas, weapons and cursing to make wrestling enjoyable, you're immature. Its a disappointment that people forget what wrestling is really about. The Attitude Era was great while it lasted, but seriously, grow up.

Agreed

cant go wrong with slutty divas though

BlazersDozen
08-08-2011, 05:00 AM
I have no problem with no cursing, no blood & no Torrie Wilson. What I have a problem with is banning moves & shots to the head. I realize the risks but it looks far too staged to be hitting someone in the gut or back for then next 20 years. Are you telling your audience that every guy would rather have a guy lose his breath for a minute rather than knock him asleep?! Also shots to the head & blood do not go hand in hand...

Restricting moves really hurt guys like Rey, Kidd, Bourne, Morrison & others. They could put on the most amazing shows with this roster if they were given full oppurtunity to flaunt their stuff, but they are restricted. Its like telling a major league pitcher who can throw 100mph to only throw 90 incase he hits someone in the head.

Dude573
08-08-2011, 05:23 AM
But guys! The Little Jimmy's and Little Jillies won't understand all of this! Their 'littler' Jimmy will want to come out and play. All the mumma Jimmy's would rather have them talk to a strange man in a mask who looks like he wants to kiss them when he puts his head that close, and follow a middle aged man who dresses like he was years old.

The Brown One
08-08-2011, 05:35 AM
Agreed

cant go wrong with slutty divas though

Can and it has. Sure the divas of the AA were hot, but some people seem to overlook the fact that they can't wrestle for shit-which is the point of wrestling. As someone said earlier, the divas are "mastabatory ammo". I like girls as much as the next guy, but when I tune in to watch wrestling-I WANT TO WATCH WRESTLING.


I have no problem with no cursing, no blood & no Torrie Wilson. What I have a problem with is banning moves & shots to the head. I realize the risks but it looks far too staged to be hitting someone in the gut or back for then next 20 years. Are you telling your audience that every guy would rather have a guy lose his breath for a minute rather than knock him asleep?! Also shots to the head & blood do not go hand in hand...

Restricting moves really hurt guys like Rey, Kidd, Bourne, Morrison & others. They could put on the most amazing shows with this roster if they were given full oppurtunity to flaunt their stuff, but they are restricted. Its like telling a major league pitcher who can throw 100mph to only throw 90 incase he hits someone in the head.

This is true. But it was already unbelievable (in a negative way) how they managed to pull off these athletic moves and put down guys who dwarf them. So I don't think it restricted them that much.

tshizzy34
08-08-2011, 05:47 AM
For it supposedly being the PG era I think they are doing a good job at trying to stretch the ratings without going overboard. I mean they have done a lot of stuff and said a lot of things that really stretch the limits of what they can say or do. It's def not as bad as it could be so I'm more than content!

ChrisQ1
08-08-2011, 06:50 AM
Stop living in the past.

The Brown One
08-08-2011, 07:47 AM
For it supposedly being the PG era I think they are doing a good job at trying to stretch the ratings without going overboard. I mean they have done a lot of stuff and said a lot of things that really stretch the limits of what they can say or do. It's def not as bad as it could be so I'm more than content!


Stop living in the past.

Well said.

Grind_Bastard
08-08-2011, 08:05 AM
Restricting moves really hurt guys like Rey, Kidd, Bourne, Morrison & others. They could put on the most amazing shows with this roster if they were given full oppurtunity to flaunt their stuff, but they are restricted. Its like telling a major league pitcher who can throw 100mph to only throw 90 incase he hits someone in the head.

Yes, that's a pity. Perhaps the travel schedule has to do with it?

I do not want to see blood all the time, but from time to time in certain matches it'll be OK. And it's cool they are trying to be a bit edgier within the PG limit.

Markedoutforlife
08-08-2011, 08:06 AM
Pg is good for business, p ain and simple. Advertisers are leery of sponsoring blood and debauchery, beleive it or not.
Pg is good for the wreslers, just ask benoit. Oops, too soon?
Pg is good for viewership, ask lil jimmys mom.
Pg is good for us, we get to see matches intead of blood baths and carnage.

Spear-O-Matic
08-08-2011, 09:00 AM
This might be a stretch, but if you want chair shots to the head back then you don't give a damn about the wrestlers and their health. I'd rather never have another Chris Beniot-type incident.

Dr. Death
08-08-2011, 09:06 AM
It seems to me that if you needed blood, slutty divas, weapons and cursing to make wrestling enjoyable, you're immature. Its a disappointment that people forget what wrestling is really about. The Attitude Era was great while it lasted, but seriously, grow up.

100% spot on. Some of the best matches in wrestling history never contained half if any of this.

AOF666
08-08-2011, 09:21 AM
PG wasn't the problem, it was how they ran their program. They didn't wasnt to disappoint the kids so the faces won every match and they buried their heels. Only way heels can win is either cheating or outside interference/distractions. Heels are suppose a legitament threat and WWE has forgotten that that why it when down hill. Not to mention focusing everything around Cena and Orton and not building new stars.

FaceOfSpades
08-08-2011, 09:48 AM
umm...... No.

whoa! What a profile pic

Rilla
08-08-2011, 09:58 AM
LOL. Funny.

CM Punk and Cena got a 5 star rating from someone, the first one from WWE in years, and it contained /no blood/, /no carnage/, and was a generally amazing back and forth.

But owait, PG sucks.

On restricting moves, it's good for the wrestlers health, as some of the moves are /horrible/ on some body parts. West Coast Pop(I believe that's the one) and Pepsi Plunge = Murder on the knees.

TNA 'The very best'
08-08-2011, 09:59 AM
It seems to me that if you needed blood, slutty divas, weapons and cursing to make wrestling enjoyable, you're immature. Its a disappointment that people forget what wrestling is really about. The Attitude Era was great while it lasted, but seriously, grow up.

Dude this was more of a thread to give people a chance to watch this video, I don't really see how it's immature to 1. Remember a time where I really enjoyed wrestling, 2. Like this video, I never said anything about needing blood divas weapons etc to enjoy wrestling, if you want to presume that's what I meant then fine but please do not tell me to grow up.

BlazersDozen
08-08-2011, 10:02 AM
PG wasn't the problem, it was how they ran their program. They didn't wasnt to disappoint the kids so the faces won every match and they buried their heels. Only way heels can win is either cheating or outside interference/distractions. Heels are suppose a legitament threat and WWE has forgotten that that why it when down hill. Not to mention focusing everything around Cena and Orton and not building new stars.

I agree with this SO much! The E has lost their unpredictability factor. Its like you don't even need to look at spoilers anymore. They also say they are in a youth movement but a youth movement won't work when you build the youth up just to be buried back down to midcard status by Orton or Cena. & its not just them losing but how they lose to these guys & how unbalanced the fueds are when they face these two that completely destroys any hype & credibility that they've built with the young guys like Sheamus, Barrett, DiBiase. It has taken Sheamus forever just to SMELL the main event area on SMACKDOWN & he had to turn FACE to do it! CM Punk is the only heel that has been put over properly in a very long time.

To go along with this, its disgusting how lazy Cena & Orton are in television matches. They get carried through a match and do a 2011 version of Hulking up & win in the last 2 minutes every time. When was the last time either of them have lost clean while being face?!

Nikhil Chandwani
12-02-2011, 11:34 AM
As I watch old school WWE videos on YouTube, I realized just how much I miss the beautiful past. The time where the WWF pushed the envelope as far as what they could get away with on TV.

With the PG rating taking affect lately, we've had to sit through all the changes. Gone were the blood scenes, extreme action, and the adult-suggested actions. Instead, we see matches stopped due to an open wound, five-second delays on live promos, and a tamer set of matches in the ring.

Enough!

Let's get back to the mayhem most of us craved on Monday and Friday nights. Let's get back to pushing the envelope to the point where it was going to shred to pieces. Bring back the hardcore matches, weapons, the violence that made wrestling a household name for years. Bring back bra and panties, the women mixing it up in the ring with the men, the adult situations that we laughed at backstage.

It's what needed. Let's face, how much more of the boring monotony can we take? Each week, it's becoming predictable of what will happen on either RAW or SmackDown. The fans are wanting to see more happen, both live and on TV. CM Punk's promo was just the beginning, but it pretty much stopped there. There's no true excitement, no real drama. When you see ratings drop, you know something must be done.

I can only hope these changes come soon for the WWE. Otherwise, it'll be WCW all over again, this time without anyone to buy them out.
Thoughts?

Reichwulf
12-02-2011, 11:40 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e7/Monday_Night_Wars_Ratings.JPG

Compared to raws ratings now, it kinda speaks for itself to be honest.

Asherdelampyr
12-02-2011, 11:49 AM
PG Isn't the issue
Shitty writing is the issue
we need to go back to having "Bookers" not "Writers" We need people in there who have a deep and abiding love for Wrestling. not people who made a few mini-series or soap operas before and moved on to do "That sports entertainment thing" for cash.

Then, once we have that, we need, as fans, to vote with our money, to buy PPVs worth watching, to buy merchandise of our favorite wrestlers, to pay to go to live shows to see them in action.

In this world Money is the last universal language, and the only one that every business speaks, if you want change, then you have to tell them that in the only way that they understand. With your wallet.

WWE Didn't go PG to piss people off, they didn't do it because Vince is getting old, they didn't do it for Linda's political aspirations, they did it to make money.

Just like they went with the Attitude Era to make money. before the Attitude era they were essentially PG and raking in cash, when WCW started kicking them around the playground they had to become edgier to compete.

If becoming PG13 will make them more money, both in fan revenue and in ad revenue, then they will do that, but until it does they will stay PG, and that's fine because PG doesn't mean that they can't tell a good story.

SESAfro
12-02-2011, 12:06 PM
PG Isn't the issue
Shitty writing is the issue
we need to go back to having "Bookers" not "Writers" We need people in there who have a deep and abiding love for Wrestling. not people who made a few mini-series or soap operas before and moved on to do "That sports entertainment thing" for cash.

Then, once we have that, we need, as fans, to vote with our money, to buy PPVs worth watching, to buy merchandise of our favorite wrestlers, to pay to go to live shows to see them in action.

In this world Money is the last universal language, and the only one that every business speaks, if you want change, then you have to tell them that in the only way that they understand. With your wallet.

WWE Didn't go PG to piss people off, they didn't do it because Vince is getting old, they didn't do it for Linda's political aspirations, they did it to make money.

Just like they went with the Attitude Era to make money. before the Attitude era they were essentially PG and raking in cash, when WCW started kicking them around the playground they had to become edgier to compete.

If becoming PG13 will make them more money, both in fan revenue and in ad revenue, then they will do that, but until it does they will stay PG, and that's fine because PG doesn't mean that they can't tell a good story.
The truth has been spoken!

Steve Austin
12-02-2011, 12:23 PM
Get Paul Heyman as a writer!

shambo2k9
12-02-2011, 12:45 PM
What is needed is Paul Heyman and Jake "The Snake" Roberts as HEAD bookers.... those two in my mind are the best wrestling minds to exist.

Wrestlinfan608
12-02-2011, 12:52 PM
As I watch old school WWE videos on YouTube, I realized just how much I miss the beautiful past. The time where the WWF pushed the envelope as far as what they could get away with on TV.

With the PG rating taking affect lately, we've had to sit through all the changes. Gone were the blood scenes, extreme action, and the adult-suggested actions. Instead, we see matches stopped due to an open wound, five-second delays on live promos, and a tamer set of matches in the ring.

Enough!

Let's get back to the mayhem most of us craved on Monday and Friday nights. Let's get back to pushing the envelope to the point where it was going to shred to pieces. Bring back the hardcore matches, weapons, the violence that made wrestling a household name for years. Bring back bra and panties, the women mixing it up in the ring with the men, the adult situations that we laughed at backstage.

It's what needed. Let's face, how much more of the boring monotony can we take? Each week, it's becoming predictable of what will happen on either RAW or SmackDown. The fans are wanting to see more happen, both live and on TV. CM Punk's promo was just the beginning, but it pretty much stopped there. There's no true excitement, no real drama. When you see ratings drop, you know something must be done.

I can only hope these changes come soon for the WWE. Otherwise, it'll be WCW all over again, this time without anyone to buy them out.
Thoughts?

what puzzles me about this whole thing is fans continue to get mad about it, when they could simply start watching TNA wrestling which is TV 14 and has most of the kind of angles that the attitude era had, WWE is going to change anytime soon. Get used to the PG style or watch TNA wrestling

Irish Nature boy
12-02-2011, 01:03 PM
Its nothing to do with PG, its just the times have changed, Type on youtube "Jerry Lawler brutal promo" he calls goldust a flaming fag and yes it was PG then too, if they did this now they would be off the air or would have gay and lesbian rights activists marching to titan towers. More examples i think of a change in times is cartoons for kids, i grew up on seeing he-man hacking dragons heads off and conan the barbarian also, now my cousin who is 5 would probably have nightmares if he seen it, There are examples everywhere of the world pussying up i cant thin of a better term for it, its not just WWE

lewism173
12-02-2011, 01:24 PM
what puzzles me about this whole thing is fans continue to get mad about it, when they could simply start watching TNA wrestling which is TV 14 and has most of the kind of angles that the attitude era had, WWE is going to change anytime soon. Get used to the PG style or watch TNA wrestling

comparing TNA and WWF ....bad move

Wrestlinfan608
12-02-2011, 01:27 PM
comparing TNA and WWF ....bad move

how did I "compare" TNA and WWE ? Actually, If anything, I pointed out the things that make them different.


All I said was if you don't like PG Wrestling quit complaining about it and watch TNA instead. How is that comparing?
and why is that a "bad move"? what am I going to get "reprimanded" for doing so? LMAO

Asherdelampyr
12-02-2011, 01:33 PM
how did I "compare" TNA and WWE ? Actually, If anything, I pointed out the things that make them different.


All I said was if you don't like PG Wrestling quit complaining about it and watch TNA instead. How is that comparing?
and why is that a "bad move"? what am I going to get "reprimanded" for doing so? LMAO

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Xpacfan
12-02-2011, 01:45 PM
what puzzles me about this whole thing is fans continue to get mad about it, when they could simply start watching TNA wrestling which is TV 14 and has most of the kind of angles that the attitude era had, WWE is going to change anytime soon. Get used to the PG style or watch TNA wrestling

I agree with this and the original post. Protest by giving your ratings to someone else...

SilverGhost
12-02-2011, 01:51 PM
"Wahhhh!!! WAHHH!!!! I am scared of change :( My precious blood not shown wrestling! :( My precious violence from backstage isn't shown much in wrestling :( :( I SO SCARED THAT IF VIOLENCE ISN'T SHOWN, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!! My puny, ignorant brain can't comprehend anything if no chairs are used!!!!"

Asher made the best point out of the whole thread. PG is NOT the problem, its the writers.

Murphdogg4
12-02-2011, 01:55 PM
What is needed is Paul Heyman and Jake "The Snake" Roberts as HEAD bookers.... those two in my mind are the best wrestling minds to exist.

Thank you. We need wrestlers booking not writers writing. poor modern fans never got a chance to see wrestling when wrestlng people actually ran it. I liked the attitude era but four horsemen, road warriors, Magnum Ta era was even better.

Asherdelampyr
12-02-2011, 01:57 PM
something fairly pertinent to the conversation at hand


Stone Cold Steve Austin "It's funny to me that "The Attitude Era" was named that way. Guys and gals in this business have always had attitude. But for some reason, I started cutting off-the-hook promos, and someone wanted to label it 'The Attitude Era.' It's an interesting way to reference that time, but WWE has always had over-the-top, extreme attitudes. I don't think the answer is creating something different, or bringing back the The Attitude Era. I think you need to let these cats fly. Kick them out of the nest to see if they can survive. The cream will rise to the top and the weak is going to fall by the wayside because this is a competitive environment. That's the only way to bring any edge back into the product. It's about letting guys fly, talking from their hearts, and their guts, and their brains. That's what makes for exciting TV. It ain't about 'attitude.' End of story."

Murphdogg4
12-02-2011, 01:57 PM
LOl by the way I so knew this thread would be attacked because someone dared tell the truth that they liked the product more then they do now!!! How dare you not enjoy whatever the WWE force feeds you? With that being said it really is not the PG rating, the WWF in the 80's had compelling angles and it was even more PG. It is the over scripted souless writing.

Krysys
12-02-2011, 01:57 PM
"Wahhhh!!! WAHHH!!!! I am scared of change :( My precious blood not shown wrestling! :( My precious violence from backstage isn't shown much in wrestling :( :( I SO SCARED THAT IF VIOLENCE ISN'T SHOWN, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!!! My puny, ignorant brain can't comprehend anything if no chairs are used!!!!"

Asher made the best point out of the whole thread. PG is NOT the problem, its the writers.

This is gold! Thank you SilverGhost!

SilverGhost
12-02-2011, 01:59 PM
This is gold! Thank you SilverGhost!

Ehhh? EHHHHH!??? :confused:

KJ PUNK
12-02-2011, 02:01 PM
My favorite part of the original post is that he wants the women to wrestle the women again. Even though no network will allow it. Example is that Daffney suffered a concussion from Abyss when she got chokeslammed through a table or something and Spike didn't even show it because they don't allow violence towards women. And that's on a more "loose" network than the USA network.

Wade Barrett 1979
12-02-2011, 02:03 PM
LOl by the way I so knew this thread would be attacked because someone dared tell the truth that they liked the product more then they do now!!! How dare you not enjoy whatever the WWE force feeds you?.

Yup, as predictable as this response eventually surfacing!!

Murphdogg4
12-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Things that will never come back from the attitude era hopefully is the spotfest where workers were shortening their career to pop a slight rating. WWe did the wrestlers a favor when he toned that down.

Asherdelampyr
12-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Turns out you can't solve all problems with titties and blood...
who knew?

SilverGhost
12-02-2011, 02:07 PM
Turns out you can't solve all problems with titties and blood...
who knew?

People who use logic and knows that times change and there is nothing that wrestling fans can do about it?

More or less.....its how the wrestlers tell a story in the ring that is in or something like that.

Krysys
12-02-2011, 02:08 PM
Ehhh? EHHHHH!??? :confused:

Ok ok fine, it was silver!

Asherdelampyr
12-02-2011, 02:11 PM
People who use logic and knows that times change and there is nothing that wrestling fans can do about it?

More or less.....its how the wrestlers tell a story in the ring that is in or something like that.

I dunno, I heard it was all about the gear they were wearing, like if Cena started wearing the manties his wrestling would improve by like 500%

Krysys
12-02-2011, 02:12 PM
People who use logic and knows that times change and there is nothing that wrestling fans can do about it?

More or less.....its how the wrestlers tell a story in the ring that is in or something like that.

I agree with this. I started watching some Japanese Wrestling lately and the stories told, just by their actions, it's amazing!

Asherdelampyr
12-02-2011, 02:17 PM
I agree with this. I started watching some Japanese Wrestling lately and the stories told, just by their actions, it's amazing!

there is a lot of that in CMLL as well
I don't speak a word of spanish, but I have been watching Mexican wrestling for 20 years now

SilverGhost
12-02-2011, 02:17 PM
I dunno, I heard it was all about the gear they were wearing, like if Cena started wearing the manties his wrestling would improve by like 500%

Cena wears a clown costume....oh god....


I agree with this. I started watching some Japanese Wrestling lately and the stories told, just by their actions, it's amazing!

You'd be surprised on how many US peeps actually watch it for the wrestling and realism.

Krysys
12-02-2011, 02:22 PM
Cena wears a clown costume....oh god....



You'd be surprised on how many US peeps actually watch it for the wrestling and realism.

I mainly started watching because I used the matches for my efed, and it was awesome. I recently watched a match with Daniel Bryan and Yoshi Tatsu before they joined WWE.

VanHooliganX
12-02-2011, 02:26 PM
PG Isn't the issue
Shitty writing is the issue
we need to go back to having "Bookers" not "Writers" We need people in there who have a deep and abiding love for Wrestling. not people who made a few mini-series or soap operas before and moved on to do "That sports entertainment thing" for cash.

Then, once we have that, we need, as fans, to vote with our money, to buy PPVs worth watching, to buy merchandise of our favorite wrestlers, to pay to go to live shows to see them in action.

In this world Money is the last universal language, and the only one that every business speaks, if you want change, then you have to tell them that in the only way that they understand. With your wallet.

WWE Didn't go PG to piss people off, they didn't do it because Vince is getting old, they didn't do it for Linda's political aspirations, they did it to make money.

Just like they went with the Attitude Era to make money. before the Attitude era they were essentially PG and raking in cash, when WCW started kicking them around the playground they had to become edgier to compete.

If becoming PG13 will make them more money, both in fan revenue and in ad revenue, then they will do that, but until it does they will stay PG, and that's fine because PG doesn't mean that they can't tell a good story.

Couldn't of put it better myself. Ball out of the park right here.

Asherdelampyr
12-02-2011, 02:27 PM
Cena wears a clown costume....oh god....


he could be Doink's little brother Boink

Gazza010
12-02-2011, 05:51 PM
What is needed is Paul Heyman and Jake "The Snake" Roberts as HEAD bookers.... those two in my mind are the best wrestling minds to exist.

Couldnt agree more with this!

Murphdogg4
12-02-2011, 06:06 PM
You know the sad thing is I spend more time watching Japanese, mexican and old school wrestling then I do WWe or TNA. A few years ago the WWE did a survey of what their fans wanted to see, and the fans universally said they wanted to see a more realistic old school wrestling based product. Vince responded by firing the company that did the market research. He only as room for his vision of sports entertainment. The thing is Vince is such a great businessman and promotor he put JCP and Mid south out of business even though they were both better products then his, imagine how much damn money he could make and how popular the WWE would be if he actually gave the wrestling public what it wanted?

KingOrton
12-02-2011, 06:19 PM
Damn, Raw got an 8.1 rating?! jesus christ.

Murphdogg4
12-02-2011, 06:23 PM
Damn, Raw got an 8.1 rating?! jesus christ.

in 2000 in WCW dying days they were still get 4.0 and still getting beat by not only Raw, but smackdown, and Sundaynight heat. So WCW, and Sunday night heat in 2000 got better ratings then Raw does now.

CobraNightviper
12-02-2011, 09:38 PM
Thats another problem no real competition on t.v and so much for that Monday night war that tna promised.

CobraNightviper
12-02-2011, 09:39 PM
Yep there will never be another wcw.
in 2000 in WCW dying days they were still get 4.0 and still getting beat by not only Raw, but smackdown, and Sundaynight heat. So WCW, and Sunday night heat in 2000 got better ratings then Raw does now.

LoGik
12-09-2011, 03:35 AM
(insert generic pg sucks rant here).

IrkenInvader
12-13-2011, 05:26 PM
something fairly pertinent to the conversation at hand

I'm sigging that quote.

IrkenInvader
12-13-2011, 05:29 PM
Never mind it won't let me.

Asherdelampyr
12-13-2011, 05:40 PM
Never mind it won't let me.

try it from here

Stone Cold Steve Austin "It's funny to me that "The Attitude Era" was named that way. Guys and gals in this business have always had attitude. But for some reason, I started cutting off-the-hook promos, and someone wanted to label it 'The Attitude Era.' It's an interesting way to reference that time, but WWE has always had over-the-top, extreme attitudes. I don't think the answer is creating something different, or bringing back the The Attitude Era. I think you need to let these cats fly. Kick them out of the nest to see if they can survive. The cream will rise to the top and the weak is going to fall by the wayside because this is a competitive environment. That's the only way to bring any edge back into the product. It's about letting guys fly, talking from their hearts, and their guts, and their brains. That's what makes for exciting TV. It ain't about 'attitude.' End of story."

Murphdogg4
12-20-2011, 05:48 AM
Stone Cold was on the money, it's not the PG rating, it's the horrible writing and not letting guys cut their own promos, most of the guys sound like they are reading a book report. It's overly produced and sanitized. It's bland and boring compared to what it used to be, some of you new school fans may not like hearing that, doesn't change the fact that it is true. But the main thing is the rating has little to do with it, go watch some JCP from the mid 80's and you'll see adult story lines, booked and not wrote mind you that have never been topped including by the attitude era.

Murphdogg4
12-20-2011, 05:49 AM
pretty simple solution to..FIRE THE WRITERS AND HIRE BOOKERS.

xAzureSkye
12-21-2011, 10:01 AM
Damn, Raw got an 8.1 rating?! jesus christ.

Brawl to End it All got a 9.0 rating

VanHooliganX
12-28-2011, 02:48 AM
(insert generic pg sucks rant here).

(Basic rant of how your opinion is stupid whilst giving facts about how the opposite of what your opinion is actually benefits the business.)

Zilvis
12-28-2011, 02:54 AM
(Basic rant of how your opinion is stupid whilst giving facts about how the opposite of what your opinion is actually benefits the business.)

(Incredibly long and pointless bashing of the PG product while completely disagreeing with all your points without actually saying anything about them)

VanHooliganX
12-28-2011, 02:57 AM
(Incredibly long and pointless bashing of the PG product while completely disagreeing with all your points without actually saying anything about them)

(After getting over the shock of you post. I begin a flame post basically calling you smelly and having a pointless fight over the internet.)

Zilvis
12-28-2011, 03:07 AM
(After getting over the shock of you post. I begin a flame post basically calling you smelly and having a pointless fight over the internet.)

(Proceeds to bash you and bring your family into it, like almost 95% of all internet fights do.)

pauadrian
12-28-2011, 03:09 AM
(Proceeds to bash you and bring your family into it, like almost 95% of all internet fights do.)

(bans you both and the forums return to normal)

VanHooliganX
12-28-2011, 08:15 AM
(bans you both and the forums return to normal)

(Laughs at your inability to ban anyone, due to you not being a mod. Continues to fear Bodom though.)

Zilvis
12-28-2011, 12:23 PM
(Laughs at your inability to ban anyone, due to you not being a mod. Continues to fear Bodom though.)

(Joins in laughter, thus ending a pointless internet fight, while also fearing Bodom from what I saw in the 1/2/12 thread.)

Bodom
12-28-2011, 12:26 PM
(says something mod-y and bans pauadrian for lulz)

LoGik
12-28-2011, 05:10 PM
lol at this whole page. funny stuff guys.

Murphdogg4
12-28-2011, 05:26 PM
lol at this whole page. funny stuff guys.


LOL weird wild whacky stuff

Zilvis
12-29-2011, 12:30 AM
(says something mod-y and bans pauadrian for lulz)

http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/thumb/f/fa/4tehlulz.jpg/618px-4tehlulz.jpg

SmarkySmark
01-12-2012, 11:45 PM
Instead of bitching about WWE-PG on the Internet I decided to use their own game against them and created a storyline in WWE '12 that bitches about WWE-PG and posted it... on the Internet. :cool:

"The End of PG: PT 1" is currently the second-most downloaded story on all of XBL, so... yeah WWE, eat shit and like the taste!

K2Jelly
06-25-2012, 04:02 PM
This should be the place where all of the "We Hate Cena" threads should be merged to.

akbar
06-25-2012, 04:09 PM
I had no idea this thread existed...Fuck PG, Fuck everyone that buys this Cena antics and loves it, there the reason WWE carries on providing this filth. The PG fans are the cancer of Pro Wrestling.

K2Jelly
06-25-2012, 04:11 PM
I had no idea this thread existed...Fuck PG, Fuck everyone that buys this Cena antics and loves it, there the reason WWE carries on providing this filth. The PG fans are the cancer of Pro Wrestling.

Now THAT'S getting in the spirit. Happy bitching! :D

Giddy
06-25-2012, 04:23 PM
I had no idea this thread existed...Fuck PG, Fuck everyone that buys this Cena antics and loves it, there the reason WWE carries on providing this filth. The PG fans are the cancer of Pro Wrestling.
Not sure if playing along...

Or he mad.

akbar
06-25-2012, 04:27 PM
Not sure if playing along...

Or he mad.
Lol I genuinely mean it, I usually have a reasonable head when debating in these forums but I saw this thread and thought FUCK IT...let me say how I really feel deep down.

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 04:02 PM
I had no idea this thread existed...Fuck PG, Fuck everyone that buys this Cena antics and loves it, there the reason WWE carries on providing this filth. The PG fans are the cancer of Pro Wrestling.

The cancer of wrestling you say? You mean the fans that are buying all the T-shirts, the wristbands, the novelty clocks, the growth charts, the DVD's, the watches, the lawn gnomes and the house show tickets? The ones that give the WWE good publicity through reviews and interviews? The ones who save up all their money all year long to take their kiddies half way across the country to see Wrestlemania, in the front row? The ones who encourage the WWE to carry on with their product and who stand tall and proud each and every week, holding signs in the stands, promoting the company by wearing their apparel in public and shelling out their cash to make sure that the WWE lives on another day?

The ones that ensure the future; a future in which the changes you desire in this company, have a chance to come into fruition? Are they truly the cancer?

akbar
06-27-2012, 04:12 PM
Heyy, it said bitch so I bitched...

thejman93
06-27-2012, 04:12 PM
The way I see it, the people buying Cena shit are just funding WWE so I can watch guys like CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Chris Jericho, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, Christian.........

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 04:18 PM
The way I see it, the people buying Cena shit are just funding WWE so I can watch guys like CM Punk, Bryan Danielson, Chris Jericho, Dolph Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, Christian.........

There ya go. See, akbar? This guy's got the right attitude. :)

akbar
06-27-2012, 04:20 PM
Fight the power.

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 04:22 PM
Fight the power.

You're fighting a losing battle. :p

thejman93
06-27-2012, 04:24 PM
There ya go. See, akbar? This guy's got the right attitude. :)

I try, I try.

akbar
06-27-2012, 04:31 PM
Aite Im not really fighting the power lol, I don't mind the current state of WWE but IF IF I had it my way I would go back to the olden days (Well, who wouldn't?), and I said it because this thread seemed appropriate to unreasonably rant...I wouldn't make to much of it like you just did:)

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 04:54 PM
Aite Im not really fighting the power lol, I don't mind the current state of WWE but IF IF I had it my way I would go back to the olden days (Well, who wouldn't?), and I said it because this thread seemed appropriate to unreasonably rant...I wouldn't make to much of it like you just did:)

Oh, so you don't feel PG's responsible for WWE's current product at all?

akbar
06-27-2012, 05:10 PM
Oh, so you don't feel PG's responsible for WWE's current product at all?
Of course I do, it's a major reason.

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 05:14 PM
Of course I do, it's a major reason.

So you think that a rating, that only restricts language, intense violence, blood and sexually suggestive scenes, is responsible for bad creative management and horrible foresight? Isn't that not giving credit to the compelling storylines, excellent wrestling and in-ring psychology which are the actual heart and soul of a wrestling show?

akbar
06-27-2012, 05:28 PM
So you think that a rating, that only restricts language, intense violence, blood and sexually suggestive scenes, is responsible for bad creative management and horrible foresight? Isn't that not giving credit to the compelling storylines, excellent wrestling and in-ring psychology which are the actual heart and soul of a wrestling show?
How much of attitude had excellent wrestling really? I say nearly the same amount as now.
Compelling Storyline? Without Violence, Language, over 18 stuff in genereal etc...Attitude era's would storylines wouldn't been that great.
PG restricts more things then you would imagine, obviously there's other reasons now that are also holding back WWE (Bonkers owner, Politics, Bad luck, bad management, Linda etc...) but I'm saying PG is a huge factor also.

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 05:38 PM
How much of attitude had excellent wrestling really? I say nearly the same amount as now.
Compelling Storyline? Without Violence, Language, over 18 stuff in genereal etc...Attitude era's would storylines wouldn't been that great.
PG restricts more things then you would imagine, obviously there's other reasons now that are also holding back WWE (Bonkers owner, Politics, Bad luck, bad management, Linda etc...) but I'm saying PG is a huge factor also.

We still got to see a pretty interesting storyline with Punk/Jericho a couple months back. If Punk were to be busted open from the bottle that Jericho smashed over his head, would that make the storyline any better? Would it add anything substantial? Did we need to see some random diva throw herself into the mix and flash on camera? Did Jericho/Punk need to drop f bombs all the time? Would it really add anything at all?

akbar
06-27-2012, 05:45 PM
We still got to see a pretty interesting storyline with Punk/Jericho a couple months back. If Punk were to be busted open from the bottle that Jericho smashed over his head, would that make the storyline any better? Would it add anything substantial? Did we need to see some random diva throw herself into the mix and flash on camera? Did Jericho/Punk need to drop f bombs all the time? Would it really add anything at all?
That's a question to ask the fans who abandoned WWE, I'm a fan for life so I'll watch regardless but that doesn't mean I can't critic or observe the current product in a reasonable way, even though in this thread I went into a rant which I explained why I did that earlier :)

Ask the 3-4 million former fans why they don't watch it, even though like you said Jericho/Punk feud was done well and AE like.

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 05:50 PM
That's a question to ask the fans who abandoned WWE, I'm a fan for life so I'll watch regardless but that doesn't mean I can't critic or observe the current product in a reasonable way, even though in this thread I went into a rant which I explained why I did that earlier :)

Ask the 3-4 million former fans why they don't watch it, even though like you said Jericho/Punk feud was done well and AE like.

That's not what I'm asking. This feud was pulled off under PG guidelines and regulations yet it was still great. It didn't need any AE-esque plot devices thrown in at all and it's obvious the only reason that stuff like this isn't being put on TV, on a regular basis, is because of a bad creative team. The PG rating has nothing to do with it.

akbar
06-27-2012, 05:57 PM
That's not what I'm asking. This feud was pulled off under PG guidelines and regulations yet it was still great. It didn't need any AE-esque plot devices thrown in at all and it's obvious the only reason that stuff like this isn't being put on TV, on a regular basis, is because of a bad creative team. The PG rating has nothing to do with it.
You don't think creative is affected by PG guidelines?

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 06:05 PM
You don't think creative is affected by PG guidelines?

It is but not in a really negative way. Like I said, even with PG, in rare cases, creative can come up with compelling storylines.

akbar
06-27-2012, 06:10 PM
It is but not in a really negative way. Like I said, even with PG, in rare cases, creative can come up with compelling storylines.
But the fact is PG makes it difficult to do so, especially in the nature of wrestling and getting high ratings.

SLEEPY LOCO1
06-27-2012, 06:16 PM
In my opinion the PG rating only hurts the WWE in a couple things. 1.) Building up to PPVs like Extreme Rules and TLC, because they can't show people getting viscious and bloody to show they are working on getting into an extreme mode to prepare for the PPV. 2.) Monter Heels like Kane can't show a really dark and twisted side by just destroying defensless people. I would be more convinced of him still being the Big Red Monster if he set Josh Mathews on fire for a stupid question.

K2Jelly
06-27-2012, 06:17 PM
But the fact is PG makes it difficult to do so, especially in the nature of wrestling and getting high ratings.

How is it a fact?

akbar
06-27-2012, 06:26 PM
How is it a fact?
Lol Strong opinion if it makes you feel better .

tweedidldum
07-27-2012, 06:02 PM
I think it did! Heels are not what they use to be in this new era. Seriously, I miss watching heels wreck havok backstage, or anywhere for that matter. The intensity of a heel now and days is stale. I don't really care so much anymore who's heel and who's a face because it's toned down too much. Gotta keep this short....@ work right now!!! LOL!:D Just thought i would throw this out there for ye all!!!

Dennis
07-27-2012, 06:07 PM
I disagree. while there is more grey area now than in previous generations of wrestling it's because that was the natural progression of the wrestling industry. We still have heels that do their job very well. If you need proof go read all the hate on the alboring del rio thread for not only adr but for the miz heels are still getting the job done and if they were not they wouldn't get this many people to watch.

Dubs
07-27-2012, 06:28 PM
I think it did! Heels are not what they use to be in this new era. Seriously, I miss watching heels wreck havok backstage, or anywhere for that matter. The intensity of a heel now and days is stale. I don't really care so much anymore who's heel and who's a face because it's toned down too much. Gotta keep this short....@ work right now!!! LOL!:D Just thought i would throw this out there for ye all!!!
I don't think you can put the blame on PG but rather on creatives. Heels can still work in a PG environment if they are able to do so creatively. Perfect example? CM Punk. His worked shoot last summer proves that you can 'push the envelope' while working under PG guidelines.

BadAndy
07-27-2012, 07:45 PM
Why do we need to push the envelope? I loved what Jericho did during his time in WCW and they didn't push the envelope like the WWE was during that time. I think that Dubs is correct that the creative team is more to blame. However, I think that even with the poor creative teams you have heels that are more than capable of delivering great promos despite the PG label. Sandow doesn't have to push any envelope but he gives a great promo every time. Same with Ziggler and Bryan and Punk and IMO Rhodes. I think this is more about people still not wanting to accept the AE is over and wrestling has changed.

kingblingbla
10-18-2012, 07:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q49ae9Z2-t4

I agree. PG has nothing to do with how bad the product it right now.....WWE can do so much with PG that people do not relieze. Before the Attitude era, WWF was PG and no one has a problem with it. WWE is PG now and people have a problem with it but they are blaming the wrong thing, Dont blame PG, Blame the writers if anything.

HOTDwwwyki
10-18-2012, 08:14 PM
The AE wasn't just profanity and hoes lol. What made the AE great was CREATIVE BOOKING. Good fueds and storylines from the main eventers all the way down the ladder to low carders like funaki had something entertaining to do. WWE now is too linear bad guy costs good guy good guy gets revenge wins title its stupid its like a 5 year old writes this predictable crap. In its defense WWE is getting alittle better now, but only a little. This is just one man's opinion

Rockstar83
10-18-2012, 09:28 PM
Can we just move on from this and stop complaining about PG era. let's make it clear.

PG Era brings in younger people
Younger people bring in Money
Money is put in WWE.

END OF STORY!

TheDevilsAdvocate
10-18-2012, 09:54 PM
It should at least be PG-13 or something along those lines. If you just cater to the Children then that's all fine and peachy, but it's the parents who have to cough up their hard earned cash for their product. They should focus on keeping the Adults of the fan-base happy as well. I started watching wrestling in the 90's, maybe just before the Attitude Era kicked off and all the kids at my school constantly praised the product and wore wrestling shirts. Nowadays it's embarrassing to be caught with a modern day WWE t-shirt.

Also the demographics for most of WWE's main shows are 18-45. These are baby raising ages, and the Children audience is relatively tiny compared to how it was all those years ago. I can't even get my little nephew to watch WWE. He's all over Austin Aries and Aces 'N 8's over on iMPACT! Wrestling. The kids are a great focus figuratively speaking, but I think the Adults should have something to kick back and laugh about. You really only get that experience when CM Punk comes around or when The Rock shows up.. Or when Brock Lesner shows up. Aside from that it's just random rambling and the crowd always being hungry and demanding to be fed more (I joke,I joke. I know it's a Ryback chant).

PG in a way shrinks their product down rating wise, but when it comes to merchandise and sponsors PG is a very clean image to present to other companies in this world, but it seems like they had more advertising deals back then too because they used to have an entire segment dedicated to their deals and it was usually Stacker power - Feel the sting, Birdman shoes, Snickers, and other companies that wanted to be apart of the WWE product at the time. But it's a different period of time to them and all we can do is be patient. Nothing will happen right now, especially with Linda McMahon trying to get a seat in the senate.

DK Wrestling Savior
10-18-2012, 10:03 PM
I loved the Attitude Era. It was great. I disagree with some things here. First, what really made the AE great, was the fact that it was created to beat the competition. In a time where there was no new stars being created during the Monday Night Wars, just a bunch of piggy-backing on past successes and wrestlers jumping back and forth between WWF and WCW, the AE changed all of that. Steve Austin finally became a star after a career teetering in the low to mid-card area. Who the hell was Dwayne Johnson? Mick Foley finally got a shot at the top after pretty much a career just being a hardcore guy. Those were the great things about the Attitude Era. And today, it wouldn't fix anything because there's no competition. WWE has been in cruise control since about 2006 on. They no longer care. It doesn't matter to them anymore. They killed all the classic wrestling promotions that we all grew to love, such as NWA, AWA, WCCW, and USWA, and eventually, destroyed the only competition they had left, WCW.

Today, WWE is in a position where they set the standard. See, there are small time promotions like ROH, DGUSA, etc for people to enjoy. TNA is the closest thing WWE has to competition and that level is so miniscule that it's totally irrelevant to them what goes on in the Impact Zone. So they've been in cruise control and until someone starts to put some sort of pressure on them, the wrestling world will always be like this. And interest will drop, and drop, and drop, and drop. The Attitude Era, or anything similar, would do nothing to spark interest back into wrestling. Only competition would do that. So unless TNA suddenly goes into investment mode, becomes main stream, and starts selling out 10,000 seat arenas for their weekly shows, we're not going to see any changes in the wrestling industry. None.

Accept the mediocrity that wrestling is. Accept the Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, and CM Punk led dark ages that WWE wrestling is in and will remain in.

maar13
10-18-2012, 10:06 PM
Better off, how about stop whinning about "how bad The Attitude Era was"? I mean, yes a lot of people want the Attitude Era back, which should not happen but seriously for every guy who wants it back there is another complaining about how bad it was, how there was no real wrestling and how it was all about profanity.


You all are missing the point of what the Attitude Era was really about and what made it a great time in Wrestling. It was about Survival it was about beating the other Company and kleep the momentum going, that was why it was so great, because you could not take anything for granted, when you though that Austin was about to be champion for a year to be stablished as the top face, which he was, his first 2 reigns didn't lasted over 6 months and it keep changing all over the place.

"But the matches were to short" it was not just about the match, it was about the story and how to engage people's emotions into the product..."But all I want is wrestling into a wrestling show, is that too much to ask for?" DOn't fool yourselves, if all you wanted was wrestling you wouldn't even be watching ROH, even them use storylines, not really much care about it but they use them because in Wrestling with out a little background or lead to something it just doesn't click, even at the beginning of it all it has been that way.

Was the Attitude Era greeat? Hell yes! otherwise you might not even be watching wrestling at this very moment. Should the Attitude Era come back? No, why? Because everything have to evolve and get it right. It is not the PG era crippling the WWE, is the Corporate control what it is crippling it, everything is so controlled and aimed to not offend anyone that it loses all its meaning. The character are so under control that is like they want everyone to be generic, and they are so scared to offend someone that even the bad guys are mediocre at best, only Punk and Lesnar save face because they allow them to bring something out of themselves, all the others can't even post a tweet because everyone is up in arms when they do, and not only WWE agents, but fans too, like we own the company or something.

As long as WWE keeps this Magic Bubble when all the world should be happy and everyone hypocritically gets behind the Anti-Bully campain they won't get much interesting, they need to stop being afraid of the guys bring something of their own to their characters and stop being affraid to offend people, in the end, Bad guys are going to offend someone or piss someone off, why? because it is their job, the sooner they realize they can't make everyone happy the better.

oldschoolnewschool
10-18-2012, 11:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q49ae9Z2-t4

I agree. PG has nothing to do with how bad the product it right now.....WWE can do so much with PG that people do not relieze. Before the Attitude era, WWF was PG and no one has a problem with it. WWE is PG now and people have a problem with it but they are blaming the wrong thing, Dont blame PG, Blame the writers if anything.

Well id would have to humbley disagree. Lets look at the history behind your claim. It would be resonable to say the height of the wwe pg era was the late 1980's, The Hulkster ran wild, ooow yeah the Macho Madness and great wrestlers began their rise, such as Hbk and Bret Hart, Owen Hart. Then something happened, people grew out of watching the love boat and Alf was cancelled. The people wanted realism, racer more authentic tv. Simpson, married with children that sort of thing. The wwe cobtinued its pg program, I would have to, if it isnt broke dobt fix it. But then something happened, the wwe took it too far. In the early 90's we got doink the clown and characters that were clearly pg and at this time the ratings went south. Wcw milked what wwe had built when they sighed hogan, hulk vs. flair and such but they said damn, we can do better. Now I am and always have been a true wwe fan but they dropped the ball with pg, then gave us a water down pg 13 with golddust and the nation. Because of wcw, Hbk and a fan base for austin we got to see an attitude era. Oh if only mr. perfect and rick rude came to us ten years later. So the wwe succeeds in the attitude era has a wwe wcw mix for five or six years then another year or two to retire the old attitude era wrestlers and now we are back tp pg. Cena is the new hogan and they will follow the path again eventually toward attitude. Problem is until then I wont be watching.

Dubs
10-19-2012, 02:48 PM
Cena is the new hogan and they will follow the path again eventually toward attitude. Problem is until then I wont be watching.
They won't follow the path toward another Attitude Era. It was a once in a lifetime experience and now it's over. Until WWE loses money like they did back in 1995, they have no reason to make their product edgier if their product is already live and kicking and still making money.

TheJosephBanks
10-19-2012, 02:53 PM
They won't follow the path toward another Attitude Era. It was a once in a lifetime experience and now it's over. Until WWE loses money like they did back in 1995, they have no reason to make their product edgier if their product is already live and kicking and still making money.

Pretty much this.

As much as people complain about PG, WWE still makes a sizable amount of money. In what, the last quarter, they made 141 million? A 3 month period.

With no real competition(An argument can be made for TNA, as they are number 2, but they aren't on that level), and having made a near endless supply of fans, WWE doesn't really have to change much unless they want too.

Wrestling1
01-09-2013, 07:15 PM
so idk bout you guys but it kinda seems like they are slowly getting away from the PG era . its not by much but it seems like they are getting a bit more edger. personally i like it

what do you think guys or gals when does the E get away from the PG era? and make it PG-13 lol..
or make it M for Mature ha either one would do!

helmsley
01-09-2013, 07:39 PM
well i think that it doesnt matter if its pg or pg13, if there are goood storylines, thats the most important part.

i think wwe has some very good talent right now, some interesting returning superstars, and if used correctly can make an amazing show

steveorton
01-09-2013, 08:11 PM
well i think that it doesnt matter if its pg or pg13, if there are goood storylines, thats the most important part.

i think wwe has some very good talent right now, some interesting returning superstars, and if used correctly can make an amazing show

This but dont get fool its alittle more from PG because of the Rock's return. I think as soon as he leaves everything will normalize.

TheJosephBanks
01-09-2013, 08:16 PM
PG is actually a fairly wide arc, WWE just plays it safe.

bgrandchamp1
01-09-2013, 08:53 PM
I agree with Steve Orton. Probably after the Rock leaves everything will normalize I hope nothing does though. I want the show to be more edgy.

SaberToothTigerz
01-09-2013, 09:25 PM
how is it getting more edgier?
because the rock and cm punk swear a little bit in their promos and aj lee said cena was a small man? is that what u call edgy?
i call it hiding the meaning under a rug if that's even a way to attribute it.
i personally dont see any change, it's still the same old pg bullshit we've been getting for the last 5 years
hell when mania time is over around april or maybe may things will settle down and u will see another wattered down pg year for the wwe with more of the same old stuff, they just do this when its mania time to push a little bit more and get people behind the product.
once its done they return back to their old roots and continue being extremely G rated.

Wade Barrett 1979
01-09-2013, 09:51 PM
You can always guarantee a certain response from certain people with a thread like this. :rolleyes:

bcfccalum
01-10-2013, 03:56 AM
Im sure i saw reports from this site that WWE were planning on making shows a bit edgier?

TempestH
01-10-2013, 04:00 AM
There's nothing wrong a TVPG rating. What WWE presents is more of a G rated show than a PG show.

Also there is no such thing as "the PG Era". "The PG Era" is just a term used to justify the lack of violence, sex, and weapons that some fans think they need to make good wrestling. SmackDown was mostly a PG show, and the Golden Age/New Generation were also PG. WCW was also PG, and produced edgy television.

Cabers
01-10-2013, 10:47 AM
As long as we get decent matches and storylines i am happy.