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RKOViper
08-12-2010, 07:09 AM
Opinions on who needs a major push to the top? Who doesn't?

In my opinion, a major push to the top suddenly has done a lot for two careers as far as I've followed wrestling (Since WM18).

The two guys - Brock Lesnar and Randy Orton.

Lesnar - a muppet who sold out to go play american football, but now the top guy in UFC. Youngest WWE champion.
Orton - Youngest World Champion as recognised by WWE today; multi-time World champion; main evented multiple WM.

To me if it is the right person, WWE should do it. They held back Shelton Benjamin, and they are doing that to Dolph Ziggler, did it to The Miz but soon he will be on top!

The main guy I think deserves it is Drew McIntyre! Anyone agree?

Christian deserves one as long as he is a heel, if he is a face, I don't want to watch. Matt Hardy - no way, to me he is just "the other Hardy".

Remember... just my opinions!

Vipe.

The Watcher
08-12-2010, 07:14 AM
I think they're doing a great job as it is at the minute. Ziggler aside (and by all accounts that was down to Rey Mysterio more than anyone else) they've built up a lot of guys recently.

I'm not a fan of McIntyre by any stretch, he's just DULL!! Ted Dibiase on the other hand could be in line for a big push, I'm not particularly a fan of him either but he has a decent gimmick and certainly looks the part with Marysse on his arm.

The Leg-end Killer
08-12-2010, 07:14 AM
I was writing a blog for the site when it decided to kick me out about this, stating the like of Cena is crap, HHH, Taker, Rey Mysterio are all injury prone and Jericho wants to go tour with Fozzy. In it i said that the WWE needs to start getting Sheamus & Drew Mcintryre (who I think should end takers streak) over a legitimate wrestlers and that people like Edge & Orton need to all step up and take the company to new levels. I personally think those four and then behind you have a group of Swagger,Kingston,The Miz,Morrison,Ziggler,Bourne,Barret who all have the ability and deserve some real attention to there characters and development.

RKOViper
08-12-2010, 07:21 AM
I think they're doing a great job as it is at the minute. Ziggler aside (and by all accounts that was down to Rey Mysterio more than anyone else) they've built up a lot of guys recently.

I'm not a fan of McIntyre by any stretch, he's just DULL!! Ted Dibiase on the other hand could be in line for a big push, I'm not particularly a fan of him either but he has a decent gimmick and certainly looks the part with Marysse on his arm.

Currently WWE are doing a good job, but they could be better though! I'm getting bored of the same main eventers. I guess you must be too.

Ted Dibiase - an early push could lead people to think of him as feeding of his dad's legacy. Not building for himself the way Cody Rhodes is with his new gimmick. Great that Dibiase is carrying his dad's million dollar belt, but what the hell is he doing with it? Nothing. Atleast defend it, make it sound like a proper title.

Drew McIntyre - I agree with what you say for him being DULL, but let's think why. What has been his 'major' opponent? Matt Hardy, to me, he is the most boring person along with R-Truth. That's to me. Not saying it is that way for others... But his attitude, the heat he gets, his look, his entrance reminds me as a mix of people (Orton, young HHH and a few others). I do like his in ring skills.

Revelationx
08-12-2010, 07:39 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Christian definitely needs a push. I mean, sure he was a ECW champion, but that's nothing if people don't even watch that show. He should be a champion by now since he's been in the wrestling business for many years now.
I'm thinking its because he left WWE to be in TNA, but he really does need a push :/

SgtGohan
08-12-2010, 07:46 AM
Wrestlers who deserve a push right now or are getting one which they deserve:

- The Miz
- Evan Bourne
- Dolph Ziggler
- Christian
- John Morrison
- William Regal
- Ted Dibiase

The Watcher
08-12-2010, 07:51 AM
Christian proved in TNA that he makes a great World Champion, and a fantastic heel, but Vinny Mac has had a downer on him since the beginning...

Tommy Thunder
08-12-2010, 08:44 AM
superstars that deserves a push:
Evan Bourne
John Morrison
Christian
Matt Hardy
Kofi Kingston
The Miz
Dolph Ziggler
Chavo Gurrero
Drew McIntyre

Necroyeti
08-12-2010, 08:54 AM
Yoshi Tastu needs a major push, I enjoyed many of his matches in WWE's ECW

JLeeDude1892
08-12-2010, 09:18 AM
Here are the RAW Stars, that I feel NEED a push.
*Evan Bourne. Sure he is slowly getting his push, but it needs to happen more quickly. I see the Intercontinental Championship around his waist soon.
*Ezekiel Jackson. I know we haven't seen him in a while, due to his father passing. When he returns, I think he should get a major push though. World Heavyweight Champion? I see that.
*Goldust. Why has he not been in a storyline, in years? The man is genius. Easy Intercontinental Champion.
*Yoshi Tatsu. Great in ring performer. He deserves to be in a good storyline, and get on top as quick as her can. Maybe Intercontinental Champion.
That's all for RAW.

Here are the Smackdown! Stars, that I feel NEED a push.
*Chavo. He is a great wrestler, and deserves better than what he's been given lately. I don't think he could win the US Championship, but Tag Team? Yeah.
*Chris Masters. Come on. The dude got off the Roids and looks better than ever. Easy US Championship.
*JTG. The dude needs something. He is great at what he does.

That's really about it from me.

SgtGohan
08-12-2010, 10:24 AM
ofcourse how could i have forgotten chavo, he needs a push to.

Bodom
08-12-2010, 10:27 AM
ofcourse how could i have forgotten chavo, he needs a push to.

Chavo is great, i'm not so sure about a push for him. Just keep him far far away from Hornswoggle

SgtGohan
08-12-2010, 11:25 AM
just keep everyone away from Hornswoggle..

Bodom
08-12-2010, 11:26 AM
This is a true fact

dre-dray
08-12-2010, 01:47 PM
Gail Kim
Dolph
Chavo
Goldust

scotty25aj
08-12-2010, 02:43 PM
In my honest opinion i believe that there is a huge amount of talent that should be being pushed at the minute.

Evan Bourne
John Morrison
Ted DiBiase
Christian
Drew McIntyre
MVP
Yoshi Tatsu

With regards to Yoshi Tatsu, I would like to know why WWE doesn't have more asian wrestlers in the company as it is a huge market with a huge amount of talents wrestlers in it.

I also think the Tag Team and Women's division needs a serious re-vamp with emphasis being placed on quality matches and not the 3 minute affairs we have been subjected to for far to long.

moppy
08-12-2010, 04:57 PM
I don't know how you push Tatsu. I mean (and don't take this wrong) does the guy speak English? If anyone knows, please respond. With that being said:

Needs push:
MVP
Evan Bourne
Christian
Zack Ryder

Bodom
08-12-2010, 05:03 PM
Gail Kim
Dolph
Chavo
Goldust

I always forget that Kim is on the roster.

Necroyeti
08-12-2010, 05:42 PM
I don't know how you push Tatsu. I mean (and don't take this wrong) does the guy speak English? If anyone knows, please respond.
Oh yeah, I see your point... WWE did do a pretty decent job pushing Tajiri for a while, but I don't see how they could push Yoshi without totally ripping those storylines off. Even so, I would just love to see him wrestle on TV more often.

Rangers_Chosen_Hun
08-12-2010, 05:52 PM
the guys that are not getting pushed that really should are mvp, christian, morrison more than he should, ziggler, goldust should i no hes older now but i think he can still offer something kozlov should still get one with his monster russian heel push he was getting in 08 evan bourne finally after his move from ecw

cody rhodes shouldnt get one his gimmick sucks, sheamus a little bit but hes convincing me alot more that a few months ago, miz maybe but hes got the heat and the kind of guy everyone loves to hate

EvolutionG
08-12-2010, 08:14 PM
Superstars I think that deserves a push
Evan Bourne
John Morrison
Christian - He Proved In TNA he can be big but Vince BLOWS
Kofi Kingston
Ted DiBiase
Shelton Benjamin for sure dude is great talent but poorly used I hope he makes a huge wwe return or become Huge in TNA

RKOViper
08-13-2010, 09:36 AM
Shelton would get a push in TNA, but in the words of Randy Orton (slightly varied...) "Going from WWE to TNA is the equivalent of going from Hollywood to hardcore porn".

If Shelton is given a push, it needs to be back with WWE.

Bodom
08-13-2010, 09:42 AM
Where and when did Orton say that?

And ofcourse Shelton will get a big TNA push. He's an Ex-WWE guy.

RKOViper
08-13-2010, 09:45 AM
Orton said it to Kurt Angle when he went to ECW.

Bodom
08-13-2010, 09:47 AM
Don't remember this. I'll have to try and find this.

ch.brooks24
08-13-2010, 10:17 AM
John Morrison - He was on fire as a heel (MNM, IC Champ, ECW Champ, Miz/Morrison) His gimmick is a heel gimmick and the fact they've had him as a face for the past year has been a failure and killed any momentum he had going. He was looked at as the better half of Miz/Morrison by many. They both had great heel gimmicks and they let Miz continue on with his (look where he is now) and they turned Morrison face when he was drafted to Smackdown. Main reason being was at the time they had a lack of main event faces so they turned him - but like I said its been a failure. Turn this guy back and give him a push. Guarunteed main eventer.

Kofi Kingston - see Randy Orton feud.. nuff said.

Evan Bourne - He should absolutely be the guy to take the US Championship off of Miz and be a dominant, fighting champion on Raw with regular title defenses. This kid is electric and could do wonders for the mid-card scene on Raw before eventually being elevated to main event status.

Christian - Great in the ring. Superb on the mic. Makes a pretty decent face and an excellent heel. This guy doesnt get pushed simply because Vince doesnt want him to be pushed. Gets my vote as the best active wrestler in WWE yet to be World Champion - bar none.

Cacho
08-13-2010, 10:21 AM
I agree with almost all the names in the list you all made, but I think that if WWE isn't going to give these guys individual pushes, they should pair some of them up and maybe they can strike some gold with a new tag team. I personally don't mind the the Ziggler push, he has deserved it since last year, but I think Vickie needs to go, and give Ziggler a bodyguard/tag team partner. I think that that Chris Masters would fit that role perfectly. As far as who doesn't deserve a push, I say Alberto Del Rio, he doesn't look like a star and yet I sense that Vickie will turn on Ziggler and help Del Rio win the IC Title. They got that Mexican connection, and maybe turning Ziggler good can launch him further.

SgtGohan
08-13-2010, 10:25 AM
i read that del rio is going to debut the week after summerslam, cant wait to see this guy in action they have been hyping him for weeks now. and imo he definitely does look like a star.

Bodom
08-13-2010, 10:26 AM
John Morrison - He was on fire as a heel (MNM, IC Champ, ECW Champ, Miz/Morrison) His gimmick is a heel gimmick and the fact they've had him as a face for the past year has been a failure and killed any momentum he had going. He was looked at as the better half of Miz/Morrison by many. They both had great heel gimmicks and they let Miz continue on with his (look where he is now) and they turned Morrison face when he was drafted to Smackdown. Main reason being was at the time they had a lack of main event faces so they turned him - but like I said its been a failure. Turn this guy back and give him a push. Guarunteed main eventer.

Kofi Kingston - see Randy Orton feud.. nuff said.

Evan Bourne - He should absolutely be the guy to take the US Championship off of Miz and be a dominant, fighting champion on Raw with regular title defenses. This kid is electric and could do wonders for the mid-card scene on Raw before eventually being elevated to main event status.

Christian - Great in the ring. Superb on the mic. Makes a pretty decent face and an excellent heel. This guy doesnt get pushed simply because Vince doesnt want him to be pushed. Gets my vote as the best active wrestler in WWE yet to be World Champion - bar none.

Absolutely spot on.

Morrison was terrific as a heel. He can make it as a face he just needs to stop being so damn goofy

Bodom
08-13-2010, 10:26 AM
i read that del rio is going to debut the week after summerslam, cant wait to see this guy in action they have been hyping him for weeks now. and imo he definitely does look like a star.

I'v heard that he already has heat on him for bitching about not having his mask.

SgtGohan
08-13-2010, 10:28 AM
interesting, well we will see what happens the friday afters summerslam.

Bodom
08-13-2010, 10:31 AM
Yeah I have hopes for him. I think he'll do well

SgtGohan
08-13-2010, 11:04 AM
i hope its not gonna be the same story as that guy that was fired who was dating vickie or something. dont remember his name.

the_captain
08-15-2010, 09:28 AM
Ugh. Eric Escobar. Yeah, I remember his 2 weeks of being terrible. I feel like they are giving Del Rio the same gimmick.

Don't agree with giving Kofi Kingston a push, as a face. I want to see him turn heel, then they can give him a push. Also, he needs to stop trying to put a massive amount of ridiculous spots into his matches. My problem with him is that he tends to try and fill his matches with high spots, which leads to him botching at least 2 of them. Which makes him look like a worse wrestler than he is. If he only put a few in, he'd be less likely to botch them and would look much better overall.

Huge Miz mark, so obviously I'm all for him getting the WWE title. My concern is the way that whenever he is on screen they bring up that everyone who has cashed MiTB in has won a title. I'm fearful that they will make him be the first to cash it in, and lose.

Sheamus I think is getting a good enough push right now, he's already 2x WWE champ in his first year here. I'd have him on the list, but I think he's getting it already. Great promo cutter. He can really get heat just by saying "Dublya dublya e champion fella!"

Yoshi Tatsu. I like him. He has good energy. He needs a ton more time in the ring and working on the actual physicality of wrestling. He does the same thing as Cena, his matches all look the same. He needs to switch things up. I want to see him do more springboard moves. He hasn't really done many of those since he botched what was his finisher for his first two matches in ECW. Give him a year, keep him facing people like Jericho who knows ring psychology, and I'm all for giving that kid a huge push.

As for Divas, Gail Kim obviously. I have not met any wrestling fan who doesn't think she's being under utilized.

When she gets back from her injury, Beth Phoenix needs to be women's champion again. She is by far the best technical female wrestler. Period.

IrkenInvader
11-15-2010, 02:29 PM
Santino deserves a main event push.

Rich Cranium
11-15-2010, 02:32 PM
Kaval, Christian

Bodom
11-15-2010, 02:34 PM
Eli Peckerwood

Adam3330
11-15-2010, 04:54 PM
Main event should always be Cena/Orton for at least 20 + yrs

Please tell me your joking???

Seriously though people who deserve a push: Christian, Ziggler, The Miz, Morrison, Gail Kim, Melina, Jericho when he returns, Evan Bourne, Del Rio, Swagger. These guys (and girls) have a lot of talent and I can definatly see them getting pushes at some point.

One person I DEFINATLY think does not deserve a push is Rey Mysterio. Guys a complete muppet. First push for the World Heavyweight championship, due to Eddies death, out of respect, all cool and a decent idea..i liked it. His second push for the title, the guy has a sook to Vince that he hasnt had a decent push and wants a run at the heavyweight title and threatens that he wont resign if he doesnt get a decent push...Vince being the good boss that he is gives him a run, and a month or two into it Rey gets busted for drugs and suspended...MUPPET..great appreciation...

Bodom
11-15-2010, 04:57 PM
Please tell me your joking???

Seriously though people who deserve a push: Christian, Ziggler, The Miz, Morrison, Gail Kim, Melina, Jericho when he returns, Evan Bourne, Del Rio, Swagger. These guys (and girls) have a lot of talent and I can definatly see them getting pushes at some point.

One person I DEFINATLY think does not deserve a push is Rey Mysterio. Guys a complete muppet. First push for the World Heavyweight championship, due to Eddies death, out of respect, all cool and a decent idea..i liked it. His second push for the title, the guy has a sook to Vince that he hasnt had a decent push and wants a run at the heavyweight title and threatens that he wont resign if he doesnt get a decent push...Vince being the good boss that he is gives him a run, and a month or two into it Rey gets busted for drugs and suspended...MUPPET..great appreciation...

The guys a troll

Adam3330
11-15-2010, 05:25 PM
The guys a troll

Yeah i can tell...just gone through a couple of the other forums..Stage 5 Cena Troll