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Yes2J
07-23-2012, 10:20 PM
Coming off of the massive, and largely entertaining show...some former wrestlers you would have wanted to see were missing.
For me, I can't believe, and have no clue as to why Stone Cold Steve Austin didn't show up.
There were a few surprises, such as Bradshaw and Ron 'Farooq' Simmons as the APA (I stopped reading spoilers yesterday), Undertaker with Kane (I didn't expect such a low capacity of use for him), as well as Billy Gunn with (from what I've seen, he couldn't get into WWE any longer). I do feel some were left out (some were covered in video montages, such as the deceased Randy 'Macho Man' Savage R.i>p> (and nice touch))...
Who did you expect, but ended up not getting?

StraightEDGeSavior
07-23-2012, 10:32 PM
I thought it was a pretty good 1000th Raw with a lot of great moments. But there is no Monday Night Raw without Stone Cold Steve Austin. The punk heel turn would have been a perfect time to hear the glass shatter. I mean i marked out when Punk GTS's the Rock but I feel they should have steered the Rock more towards Cena earlier in Raw so Punk and Austin could have kicked off the best fued in PG history. I also think Wade Barrett should have taken big show's spot in that last segment.

Thoughts on Austin and when he should come back and the Raw main event?

drumn4life0789
07-23-2012, 10:43 PM
I assume he has a movie being shot and had no way of getting there or something. Seems like the only logical explanation to me. Main Event was alright. When Show came out I went with the all here we go. The super predictable route. But they spun it on us and the ending made me happy.

Punk was so over as a face though that he has to come out firing next week. Calling people out, saying how great he is and everything. Or it will be hard to become the great heel again that he was.

Playboy Stevie V
07-23-2012, 10:43 PM
Idk, but I kept waiting for him to come out and stun punk. Then raw goes off the air and I'm dumbfounded. WTF? No scsa? How can he not be there? He is the the main reason raw had 1000 shows.

Machomadness97
07-23-2012, 10:44 PM
It was an amazing moment to see a heel turn by Punk. I believe that he will elevate his character and the championship to a whole different level. Next week, we might see a whole different side of Punk with a new WWE title. At Summerslam, we will see Punk taking on Cena for the belt and probably a wrestling match between the Rock and Big Show.

aweso_me
07-23-2012, 10:49 PM
I read on bleacherreport.com that SCSA might have issues with film the date because he was still filming Grown Ups 2. Raw sucked btw.

StraightEDGeSavior
07-23-2012, 10:56 PM
One really bad element of Raw I will point out was all the damn advertising. Listening to Cole promote a new social media site makes me want to throw my remote through the TV.

I'm calling it now though...Punk comes out to lay the first Pipebomb of the next thousand episodes and the segment ends with Austin coming out to put Punk in his place. God that would really save the lack luster RAW that seemed to drag on

Hammy
07-23-2012, 11:05 PM
Well the most enjoyable part of Raw for me was full DX reunion (chyna doesn't count) and CM Punk at the end.

Now there's a few things I would have done (shoot me down if you will) I would have had the New age outlaws vrs the tag champs nice match bout 10 min and putting tag champs over.

I thought cm punk should have made a move on rock in the Daniel Brian segment.

During undertaker/Kane part Paul barer should have come out to ooohhhh yeess. Taker turns on Kane for treating Paul like he did months ago. Setting something up for Summerslam.

With rock being pissed at cm punk he comes out to help Cena but SCSA comes out to save punk saying he wants to face cm punk at royal rumble (pick ppv of ur choice) setting up a possible rock v SCSA at Summerslam to decide opponent v cm punk (or wwe champ at rr or wm) SCSA wins setting up the feud we all want!

Just my opinion

thoughts?

Sniffsquad
07-23-2012, 11:10 PM
How do you feel about the show? Favorite moment? Do you think Taker will stick around? Feelings on Punks heel turn? How long until people start saying they turned Punk heel to face Stone Cold?

1. I enjoyed it, first time I can say that in awhile.
2. I lmao'd with Mae youngs hand, I liked Punks heel turn but it could of been better. But I'm a huge Taker mark so his return was my favorite even though I thought Kane was to turn on him.
3. Idk who he will feud with but I can see him and Kane vs Punk and Big Show.
4. I like it as long as he don't look weak wwe doesn't have the major heel. I hope that him and show get a stable add a Seth Rollins, or a Joe henning, or someone else.
5. I think Austin is happily retired and doesn't plan on coming back but I hope I'm wrong.

What do you think let me know

ToiletBowl
07-23-2012, 11:17 PM
Couldn't agree more. I was happy with the show minus anything AJ. But no Austin on the biggest RAW in history is inexcusable. Biggest blue balls moment in the past decade (at least).

Mtt08 xXx
07-23-2012, 11:23 PM
I would have debuted ambrose, have SCSA be the new GM, taker form the new ministry instead of BOD.

im actually on my way home from raw, and it was decent. I felt like WWE missed their chance on many occassions, but overall a decent show.

LOVE the heel turn by punk, but he needs to come out with a sick promo to make it a full turn and not a tweeter turn

ToiletBowl
07-23-2012, 11:26 PM
1. Should have had the New Age Outlaws come out to their old theme.
2. Stop shoving AJ down our throats. That wedding may have been a bigger waste of time than Cole & Lawler playing with dolls.
3. Add Stone Cold segment or end the show with Stone Cold. The fact that he wasn't there made the show a failure regardless of everything else.
4. Why not have JR at the desk all night, not just some spare / random 6 man tag match?

wheelchair1986
07-23-2012, 11:29 PM
Well the most enjoyable part of Raw for me was full DX reunion (chyna doesn't count) and CM Punk at the end.

Now there's a few things I would have done (shoot me down if you will) I would have had the New age outlaws vrs the tag champs nice match bout 10 min and putting tag champs over.

I thought cm punk should have made a move on rock in the Daniel Brian segment.

During undertaker/Kane part Paul barer should have come out to ooohhhh yeess. Taker turns on Kane for treating Paul like he did months ago. Setting something up for Summerslam.

With rock being pissed at cm punk he comes out to help Cena but SCSA comes out to save punk saying he wants to face cm punk at royal rumble (pick ppv of ur choice) setting up a possible rock v SCSA at Summerslam to decide opponent v cm punk (or wwe champ at rr or wm) SCSA wins setting up the feud we all want!

Just my opinion

thoughts?

Well just 3 things,1 the reason taker didn't attack anyone major was because they would need some sort of angle for summerslam and I think taker didn't want to go through the trouble.

2 w/ rock having been "heel" it made no sense to bring him back face. Punk and rock should of kicked each other's asses during the post wedding segment and left cena vs punk to cena and punk.

3 your SCSA thinking confuses me. Austin vs. Punk is what we want or at least most of us anyway. I wish the last match hadn't of been botched so badly though big show was a bad choice because this makes punk look like a wuss, show look like a pussy, and cena/the rock looking like jack asses.

ToiletBowl
07-23-2012, 11:30 PM
Oh and where was Edge???

Machomadness97
07-23-2012, 11:35 PM
This Raw celebration was not a disappointment. The 'E could have made it more exciting with these following things:

1. More Matches: There was not too many matches, I believe there was only three matches in three hours. Ring action in total was probably twenty minutes. That was a big disappointment with so many promos. Actually there were four matches and it was great.
2. Less Promos: I was afraid of too many promos. Unfortunately, there were too many promos and Charlie Sheen kept popping up on the screen. I believe the Brodus Clay match was about ten seconds. His dancing lasted more then that.
3: No Steve Austin!

There were five matches in total but most off them were short matches and Slater should have won gold on this 1000 Raw!

doormatt412
07-23-2012, 11:37 PM
2 Biggest things wrong with Raw 1000...

1. No SCSA
2. No Edge

Leaving both of them out makes the show a bust in my book

Robstar
07-23-2012, 11:41 PM
WWE shat all over Edge with the legends deal they reportedly (for Bodom) offered him. So, if you ask me, they don't deserve him.

As for Austin....there was no place for him. It would have been a token appearance. Besides, I think Shawn did away with him on the last episode of MacMillan River Adventures

HCollins-TNA1
07-23-2012, 11:47 PM
Was wondering where Austin was myself..... Although the show was booked pretty good without him.... It will be tough for him to return to the ring even just once due to his neck.... But I could see him more as a enforcer in a WWE Title match at Wrestlemania!!

bryanb1306
07-23-2012, 11:52 PM
2 Biggest things wrong with Raw 1000...

1. No SCSA
2. No Edge

Leaving both of them out makes the show a bust in my book

And no Randy Orton, I know he's suspended but he would have gotten the biggest pop of the night.

Playboy Stevie V
07-23-2012, 11:54 PM
2 Biggest things wrong with Raw 1000...

1. No SCSA
2. No Edge

Leaving both of them out makes the show a bust in my book


Someone said "blue balls" that sums up no scsa or edge.

I was waiting for him to come out and deal with punk. And during the Lita Slater match I was hoping edge was her backup, regardless of their relationship status.

It was a good show, but those two not being there cut me deep.

Machomadness97
07-23-2012, 11:55 PM
There was many disappointments of returns. So many superstars could have returned and put give some great promos. Randy Orton would have got a huge promo but I am shocked that the hitman did not get a loud pop. It was a great show!

tweedidldum
07-23-2012, 11:58 PM
Yeah they delivered what creative had set-up.....there's the problem. Where do they find the people for their creative team walt disney.

peppermill25
07-24-2012, 12:06 AM
You sir are a horse's arse. That was the best Raw in years.

Machomadness97
07-24-2012, 12:08 AM
There was not too many matches. I believe there were five matches but all together it was probably twenty minutes of ring action. There were so many promos and not enough time for matches. It was a surprise to have Undertaker back but the legends did not deliver there great promo skills. The Rock did but most of the legends were used in Slater promo and match. Bret Hart should have had a better role and the shocking part was there was no Stone Cold Steve Austin. There were only two good matches and that included the tag team match and the WWE championship match, with Punk turning heel right after the match. It was a decent show.

Playboy Stevie V
07-24-2012, 12:10 AM
I thought it was good.

The two major things i didnt like was no edge or scsa.

Other than that I thought Brock and Triple H's segment was great and so was Punks heel Turn. Miz getting the ic belt was solid. Rock, Punk and db segment was gold. Taker and Kane was cool. Slick as the priest marked an old schooler like me out and even Sean Mooney.

It was a good show imo.

Machomadness97
07-24-2012, 12:13 AM
I thought it was good.

The two major things i didnt like was no edge or scsa.

Other than that I thought Brock and Triple H's segment was great and so was Punks heel Turn. Miz getting the ic belt was solid. Rock, Punk and db segment was gold. Taker and Kane was cool. Slick as the priest marked an old schooler like me out and even Sean Mooney.

It was a good show imo.

It was a good show. I have to agree with no Steve Austin or Edge the shoe lacked excitement!

TheBadGuy2090
07-24-2012, 12:19 AM
This is my first thread......so please be kind to me WWE universe.....so we witnessed the long awaited 1000th Raw episode today.....so many speculations.....before this monday night..but nevrtheless....quite a few disappointing moments with some memorable moments alongwith some unpredictable moments..which made it an interesting Raw.
Disappointed with Miz being the new i.c. champion....i hoped for a new heel like sandow or face like kidd who are in more need of a singles title...than any1 else....no Austin..... J.R. for just one match....but we had some great moments The return of D-X.. return of Lita (for one night only though).. then some unpredictable moments too...like AJ being named gm of Raw.......Did anyone saw that one coming..? and the best for the last.. Punk's heel turn..m excited for summerslam...?? Dont know what expect from AJ as a GM?? Thoughts please....what were ur favourite and dissappointing moments?? :D

justin sane
07-24-2012, 12:22 AM
I have watched every episode since day 1, and I enjoyed it immensely. period.

Playboy Stevie V
07-24-2012, 12:24 AM
Shoot, I also forgot the DX segment with Sandow and with Trish was also entertaining even with them edited to pg. Come on, I know the writers need improving, but I'm not going to call this show terrible. Again, imo.

thedag
07-24-2012, 12:48 AM
Yeah they delivered what creative had set-up.....there's the problem. Where do they find the people for their creative team walt disney.

would you like to tell us why it was bad to you?

Wrestling1
07-24-2012, 12:49 AM
i thought that the dx was gonna be the best of the night for me but xpac was huge didnt look like pac.. and lita was the best part looked damn good! as well as trish... but no scsa REALLY? come on wwe
top things wrong with raw1000
1 no scsa
2 no edge
3 no orton
4 aj as gm (stupid)
5 NO STONE COLD STEVE AUSTIN !

Darkside Ron Garvin
07-24-2012, 01:18 AM
I will not say the show wasn't good. Slick as the priest was great... I loved how AJ redirected him. The Rock was the Rock and now we know that he'll be headlining Rumble, which he already said he would return at via twitter anyway. Rey, Cara, Sheamus was eh... Miz and Christian was a solid match, but I am interested to see if all the people who hated on Christian "returning and getting the belt" will do the same for Miz. I doubt it because apparently our memory span is so short.

My highlights were:
-APA with Lita. The "Damn" at the end of the match was hilarious.
-Moody being back was cool to see from someone who watched the very first episode
-I wish Bret would have got a little more time to speak. The Mr. Perfect mention was awesome for me, but Bret could have said a LOT more about how much that belt ment if given the proper time.
-Brothers of Destruction was a cool re-unite, but Undertakers robe reminded me too much of Shredder from TMNT.
-Sandow was golden and honestly I found him more entertaining than DX. Yes all the members (minus the drunken porn chick who gets poodle rage) were there, but the PG version wasn't what I was hoping for... And X-Pac is showing dramatic signs of aging.
-Punk turned heel which is awesome and Cena is the first to fail when cashing in the MITB, which he will never be remembered for, where as if it would have been Ziggler I don't think he could have recovered from.
- Favorite part had to be Steph's verbal assault on Heyman. I am far from a Steph fan, but she was in her element in this segment and looked like everything she was saying was genuinely how she felt.

Was this the best Raw EVER? No, but this was DEFINATELY better than what we've been watching the past several months. The fact that AJ is the new RAW GM is a good move IMO because putting her back in the Divas division is pointless at this point. She is miles ahead of anyone else there. I will admit that I do not think Raw lived up to the "hype" that is 1000 episodes, but I give them props for holding my attention for a good bit of the 3 hour block. I did get bored in several places, but not so much that I am going to bash the E Universe for it... And trust me, I am pretty well known for bashing them. Besides, we did get to tie up that one loose end in this episode... Now we know what happend to Mae Young and Mark Henry's hand

tweedidldum
07-24-2012, 01:29 AM
would you like to tell us why it was bad to you?

Even the FUNNY wasn't FUNNY for me, that's that, maybe if i were 10 yrs old again. For me there just wasn't no epic moments, not even AJ as the new GM. I just cringed when we found that out and hung my head....it was more of a how embarassing moment for me.

Seruously guys come on, if anyone of you on here thought that there was one funny moment on that show than either your 15yrs old or younger or your a PG hugger.

I do praise the attitude era for it's ground breaking moments ( sorry all you attitude era haters ) but this stuff that is shoved down our throats now is degrading our intelligents. I feel like im watching a saturday morning cartoon and im not shiting you, i really do feel like im too old to be watching this childish garbage.

Look im not saying the show was bad because everyone delivered what they were suppose to, which is how this company has been running since the PG era, im just not liking the WWE brand as of late and i only express this on here cause we are able to.

Dennis
07-24-2012, 01:30 AM
I knew the wedding was going to get ruined.. not internally so kudos to wwe creative there.. I was super disappointed with the brothers of destruction defeating 6 guys.. seemed to predictable plus I want a stable to actually do something in the wwe. I also thought the daniel bryan getting rock bottomed was the stupidest thing I have seen on raw in a long time everyone knew it was going to happen. so to answer your last question my favorite moment was the cm punk heel turn and my least favorite was the bryan rock bottom. (though the hand was hilarious!)

tweedidldum
07-24-2012, 01:44 AM
Stone Cold not being their. Probably the biggest epic moment of the night being that he was the biggest superstar of the attitude era. That is the single only thing that shocked me with Raw lastnight....seriously.

Playboy Stevie V
07-24-2012, 01:50 AM
Even the FUNNY wasn't FUNNY for me, that's that, maybe if i were 10 yrs old again. For me there just wasn't no epic moments, not even AJ as the new GM. I just cringed when we found that out and hung my head....it was more of a how embarassing moment for me.

Seruously guys come on, if anyone of you on here thought that there was one funny moment on that show than either your 15yrs old or younger or your a PG hugger.

I do praise the attitude era for it's ground breaking moments ( sorry all you attitude era haters ) but this stuff that is shoved down our throats now is degrading our intelligents. I feel like im watching a saturday morning cartoon and im not shiting you, i really do feel like im too old to be watching this childish garbage.

Look im not saying the show was bad because everyone delivered what they were suppose to, which is how this company has been running since the PG era, im just not liking the WWE brand as of late and i only express this on here cause we are able to.

I think the AE was the best era, but i lived and enjoyed the rock n wrestling era also. I grew up a rock n wrestling kid. So maybe that is why I can also get into the pg era. There's a lot of similarity between the two.

Everyone has their own opinion and by seeing how much you do not enjoy the current WWE product may I suggest you don't watch it and give it ratings since its not up to your standards or expectations?

If I don't like a tv show, food, person, car, TP etc...I won't watch, eat, talk, drive, wipe my culo with it etc.

There's other wrestling promotions.

Dennis
07-24-2012, 02:02 AM
I think the AE was the best era, but i lived and enjoyed the rock n wrestling era also. I grew up a rock n wrestling kid. So maybe that is why I can also get into the pg era. There's a lot of similarity between the two.

Everyone has their own opinion and by seeing how much you do not enjoy the current WWE product may I suggest you don't watch it and give it ratings since its not up to your standards or expectations?

If I don't like a tv show, food, person, car, TP etc...I won't watch, eat, talk, drive, wipe my culo with it etc.

There's other wrestling promotions.
I totally agree with you.. I mean yes they could of done more but that was a classic raw.. the heel turn was awesome.. and as far as a pg era raw goes that is as good as your going to get. anyone in the iwc who hated that episode of raw should stop watching raw because nothing raw is going to do in the dear future is going to be up to par for you so why waste your time. I called every matches outcome and I still enjoyed the matches

Bralon23
07-24-2012, 02:19 AM
I usually hate when people complain about the shows, but I agree with you guys on this one. Stone Cold is Raw. He should've definitely been on the show. I was really hoping he'd come out during the final segment, but it never happened. I liked the show, but it left me a little unsatisfied because there was no Austin.

Wade Barrett 1979
07-24-2012, 03:30 AM
Has it occured to anyone that those absent, were unavailable to attend due to other commitments?

Nah it's just easier to apportion blame elsewhere. :rolleyes:

Yes2J
07-24-2012, 04:37 AM
Austin would have made it...we know he can compete and WWE knows that too. The only problem with Edge is that...HE'S DONE. He said he might come back in some capacity, but he can't do a lot...and him being at this event would have made him want to come back more, which he can't.
If Austin is busy with a movie...they still could have done something with a satellite feed and had him shoot a classic promo just for the enjoyment of it.

However, it was great to see (almost) the full DX back together! I can't believe they didn't get Chyna...she was the only one missing for crying out loud.
I have met Road Dogg and Billy Gunn...and they are good people. Especially in the case of Mr. Ass, I know he has been wanting to get back into the WWE. This was so heartwarming. They let him take front and center too if you didn't notice...
So deserving...brought a smile to my heart...same with Sid.

Edit: After reading enough about "Oh Orton wasn't there"...granted that was in his hometown...HE IS SUSPENDED. He has cost great guys like Mr. Kennedy his job...he was the SuperCena Jr. of the second brand for the last decade (just like Cena)...and he has done very stupid things in the past. Allowing him to appear would have been absolutely ludicrous and would have looked horribly on the WWE (especially after suspending Jericho...though that may have been because Jericho wanted to tour with Fozzy).

Of course I don't like Orton 9or Cena for that matter), but I'll admit that it's necessary to have Cena headline the night.

Shining Light
07-24-2012, 04:45 AM
Has it occured to anyone that those absent, were unavailable to attend due to other commitments?

Nah it's just easier to apportion blame elsewhere. :rolleyes:

"I shall never watch Raw again! It's an absolute disgrace! I have never been this outraged since the WWE decided to do something that made me outraged and I decided to stop watching Raw..... OUTRAGE!" is what they always say :rolleyes:

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eboy
07-24-2012, 05:12 AM
OK, so am I the only one that thought WWE RAW 1000th Episode was clusterfuck and utter disaster.

ok
Mr McMahon gave a lame promo to start the show, not really sure why he introduced DX seen as he'd "Rather join WCW than DX" and they shoved his head up Big Show's ass in 2006.
DX thing was alright but not their best work, to me I don't know if Sandow was the right man for it, do we dispise him enough? no, they'd have done better going with someone we really don't like, Otunga for instance, that way the reaction would have been a bit bigger when the superkick/pedigree combo was rolled out.
All of the matches on the card were close to diabolical; Swagger vs Clay wasn't worth the 30 seconds of career damaging embaressment for Swagger, just for Dude Love, Mick Foley's weekest character to come out and dance, Altough this raised my hopes that perhaps we'd see all 3 of the Foley faces, on RAW 1000, but alas it did not happen.
The six man Tag was rushed and the end was weak, there was nothing to make Cara, Mysterio or Sheamus look like conquering faces. (That being said I feel the Jericho/Ziggler feud has huge potential). The main event was rushed too, the ending not the strongest either, altough CM Punk turning or maybe piviting between heel and face was at least a substantial surprise to end the show.

OK, so we get Brock Lesnar, then Brock Lesnar quits and we get Paul Heyman, then we get Paul Heyman again telling us Brock Lesnar is going answer the challenge only for us to get...Paul Heyman again!, this was weak promo (which I wasn't aware, HHH, Heyman and Steph could give weak promos! (side: Of course I actually am, I am just being vague on purpose))

So Heyman comes out and says nothing too shocking about Triple H's kids which brings out Stephanie to spout garbage at Heyman, then physically attack Heyman, for what seemed like little reason, I know its PG but this segment would have worked better is Heyman called Triple H's kids, "little scrawny bastards" or something, before using his lawsuit to goad Triple H that he can't put his hands on Heyman, This brings out Stephanie McMahon who takes down a vile and out of order Heyman. but all that aside I wanted to see Brock LEsnar talk face to face with Triple H, accept his challenge like a man, after all an MMA brute shouldn't be afraid of facing a man who's arm he has already broken.

I am still a little confused about the wedding, AJ couldn't marry Bryan because she'd chosen to the be the GM instead, ok!?, (Slick was hilarious and probably my highlight of the night) The punk and Rock thing seemed a little convaluted trying to steer away from Bryan's embarising jilting and towards The Rock's impending WWE Championship shot at the Royal Rumble.

Good to see Undertaker and Kane back as "The Brothers of Destruction", I guess WWE will protect Taker by using him in Tag matches and letting Kane do most of the work. The only issue that arises here is the lack on any proper competition to appose The BoD.

, so yeah basically it was clusterfuck, I expected more.

blink
07-24-2012, 05:51 AM
Actually, I enjoyed the show.

Mr. Ziggles
07-24-2012, 05:54 AM
I agree, all of the segments had potential, but all but a couple fell flat on there backside.

Tommy Thunder
07-24-2012, 06:00 AM
I enjoyed the show.
I think it could have been better, they didn't utilize some things to their full potential (having Piper is a backstage segment with R-Truth was a complete waste of him for example). But I think for every disappointing segment there was a good one to counter it.

It was far from a clusterfuck. The go home Raw to MITB is what I'd call a clusterfuck. Last night was far from being that bad.

Kincaid
07-24-2012, 06:06 AM
The guy with the GIGANTIC TNA Sig didn't like Raw?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I don't believe it!

Dillon
07-24-2012, 06:56 AM
Was actually a really entertaining Raw, quite a few times I was laughing more than that I thought I would.

The few points I have to put forward from it are,

1. WWE yet again going to waste good talent if they do escalate a Charlie Sheen Vs D Bryan fued, not personally something I have any time for.

2. It will be interesting to see how the dynamic between a Aj as GM and Heel punk will be, and whether her GM reign will even last long enough to be remembered. (Personally was hoping for Kane to come up through the ring when they were asked in anyone has any objections etc)

3. No, Stone Cold wasn't there, but it's so typical of us to talk Raw down because it was missing one thing we'd have like to have seen, (I accept though he arguably the biggest Raw star ever), but I feel the show was actually hugely improved from those before it, and we shouldn't allow that to ruin the impression of the whole show.

Sadly, i have the feeling this truly will be a one off and the standard of the show will drop again rapidly.

Then we can all bitch more about something we say is crap but could just choose to turn off :P

TNA 'The very best'
07-24-2012, 07:27 AM
Raw was OK IMO

DX reunion was good, Nice to celebrate all the legends in the Slater match, Love APA (Although was JBL walking funny or was the just me?)
BOD was unexpected but worked well for what is was.
HHH and Lesnar wasa fairly good segment.

I would have liked SCSA to simply come back stun Vince and leave.

I would have loved Flair to return and be the Raw GM

As soon as i herd Zigglers music, I automatically thought, The ending of this match is going to end with Ziggler cashing in.

To the bits I have problems with.

The reason I got into wrestling was because of the attitude era, I love SCSA and the Rock, they both deserve our respect for putting WWE where it is today. That being said, That era ended over 10 years ago. Both guys have left a long time ago.

I don't want to see the Rock in a title match ever again, He doesn't need it, If your a WWE champion the likelihood is that you don't need putting over by the rock. Having him in the title picture is going to do nothing for the prestige of the title. The same goes for SCSA it's not needed.

It's nice when Rock comes back or SCSA but The Rock returned to WM this year and him and Cena stole the show for the wrong reasons. Minus HHH/Taker all the hype was for that match that didn't really deliver IMO but mores to the point took away from the rest of the card.

I am aware that the only reason he returns is to raise PPV buyrates, which from a business point of view is what your suppose to do. But my argument is what happens when he can't go any more, he can't wrestle he's too old? WWE will be fucked, because the whole time they are trying to milk more buy rates out of the WWEUniverse they should be building up stars in this down period so when its back in the way up people will be interested in the current rooster and they aren't relying on older wrestlers.

The Punk heel turn is needed and awesome, But we had a summer of Punk last year, It's really not that creative to have the same story turned on its head. I will give it time and see how it pans out but right now im not looking forward to this angle.

Cena should have lost clean. Show should have got involved after the match. This ending just leads to Punk vs Cena vs Show at Summerslam which I dont think im alone in saying no one wants to see. WWE need to be using the likes of Show and Cena to help build new talent not in the title picture.

And the less that is said about the wedding the better. AJ as GM makes no sense, The wedding made no sense. DB getting in a feud with Sheen makes fuck all sense.

Sorry bit of a long reply,

Bodom
07-24-2012, 08:29 AM
WWE shat all over Edge with the legends deal they reportedly (for Bodom) offered him. So, if you ask me, they don't deserve him.


I don't get it.

tupelojoe81
07-24-2012, 08:36 AM
Oh and where was Edge???


Edge is NOT under contract and does not have a legends deal........

Tommy Thunder
07-24-2012, 08:42 AM
Edge is NOT under contract and does not have a legends deal........

Most of the legends that were on last night's show aren't under contract neither have they got a legends deal. What's your point?

Wade Barrett 1979
07-24-2012, 08:46 AM
Nobody is still reasoning that Edge and Austin were asked but turned THEM down due to other commitments? No?

Tommy Thunder
07-24-2012, 08:49 AM
Nobody is still reasoning that Edge and Austin were asked but turned THEM down due to other commitments? No?

I've seen one or 2 mention that.

Funny how people bash the Rock for prioritizing movies over wrestling, but when Austin does it, nobody says a thing.
Hypocritical much? :rolleyes:

Wade Barrett 1979
07-24-2012, 08:55 AM
I've seen one or 2 mention that.

Funny how people bash the Rock for prioritizing movies over wrestling, but when Austin does it, nobody says a thing.
Hypocritical much? :rolleyes:

It's amazing how people forget things for convenience. :D

Torphy
07-24-2012, 08:59 AM
Just a couple thoughts on the Raw 1000. I personally chalked it up as a success, there were a few surprises, a few mark out moments and of course the inevitable few flat moments. But overall the show was solid, good even, however it wasn't great and it really should have been.

Surprise of the night for me was the APA, that clothesline from hell genuinely looked painful, i'd mark out for a proper JBL return. Honourable mentions go to AJ as Raw GM, i didn't see that coming at all, i didn't like it but was surprising all the same. And also Stephanie joining the Brock segment, i enjoyed that part of the show and it wasn't because of all the leg on show!

Mark out moment of the night was when Punk clotheslined The Rock and then proceeded to put him to sleep, completely made up for the way the match ended, as predictable as Show getting involved was. Punk has always been a better heel than a face/tweener, and face it TV-14 fans are still gonna buy Punk merch, and the kiddies are gonna go back to buying up Cena and Orton (Who is guaranteed a face return now) merch. Honourable mention goes to the Undertaker, i kinda wanted more out of the segment but was great to see him.

Considering I thought the night was good, there were actually a lot of flat moments for me. DX opening the show really didn't get me anymore excited than I already was, I wouldn't have minded if that segment didn't happen, just to add to this, Damien Sandow is not established enough to have warranted being there, not yet anyway. The Miz winning the IC title? Well, fair enough, i think it'll keep the belt relevant, but when Bret was announcing, I kinda expected Tyson Kidd, Vince knows best though, right? The wedding, AJ as GM, Charlie Sheen vs Daniel Brian, all of this was a bust for me, did not draw me in at all, maybe if Sheen wasn't sober i;d have liked it a lot more. However, flattest moment of the night for me was Lita being used as the final legend to face Heath Slater, as great as it was to see how little gravity has affected her over the last few years, I wanted Steve Blackman.

Well that's just me anyway. :)

Edit: Biggest disappointment of the night was that Steve Austin wasn't there, though i'm sure he had his reasons.

Bob Bowman
07-24-2012, 09:15 AM
Stone Cold should have been there, but the show was good overall. I wasn't happy seeing JBL there because he just doesn't come off as a face well. Even when he came out with Ron Simmons, he looked like a douche bag. Raw was good overall though

dub
07-24-2012, 09:52 AM
The thing I remember most about this Raw was Miz winning the Int title, and Punk GTSing the Rock. All the rest seemed like advertisements, dumb skits (the hand and mae young thing was so stupid, sonic drinks, wrestling buddies, web media, and why was Charlie Sheen there taking up time after he screwed the WWE once already???). The thing about past groups reuninting just made me feel...MEH, they were only their for one night woop dee doo! Don't get me wrong I like seeing DX together as much as the next guy but HHH and HBK was still CLEARLY the focus last night. I thought all the members were going to do their finishers to Sandow but no, only HHH and HBK. Now they are all gone again and HHH is back to his business with Brock, (was x-pac even there?) IDK why but it just seemed like a cheap thrill to me. Same with brothers of destruction it's like they just grabbed a bunch of random people in the back to come out and threaten Kane and then we see Undertaker, YAY... won't see them together again. Another thing I was thinking about was WHERE ARE THE MATCHES?!?!?!?!?!? THIS IS A WRESTLING SHOW?!?!?!? I don't mean Brodus Clay squashing Swagger, or six of the biggest superstars having a 10 min tag team match (Rey didn't even get in the ring)... I mean actual matches???? It is beyond me how a 3hr Raw had like 30-35 minutes of in ring match time... HUH??? Makes me wonder what they are going to do moving forward? DX, The Brothers of destruction, rediculous skits, and Legends are not going to be their to carry 3hr shows in the future.

Viperfish
07-24-2012, 10:14 AM
Another thing I was thinking about was WHERE ARE THE MATCHES?!?!?!?!?!? THIS IS A WRESTLING SHOW?!?!?!? I don't mean Brodus Clay squashing Swagger, or six of the biggest superstars having a 10 min tag team match (Rey didn't even get in the ring)... I mean actual matches???? It is beyond me how a 3hr Raw had like 30-35 minutes of in ring match time... HUH??? Makes me wonder what they are going to do moving forward? DX, The Brothers of destruction, rediculous skits, and Legends are not going to be their to carry 3hr shows in the future.

Here we go with the frigging wrestling again. Look, this is a special occasion. Do you come on here and whine about the Slammies every year too? "WHERE ARE THE MATCHES???!?!?!?! WTFWTFTWOMG SLAMMIES!" Give it a month or two, then complain about the format if it's still the same. This night was about all the old fogies, all the folks that helped bring Raw to 1,000... fuck the matches for one night. We see matches every week.

duece137
07-24-2012, 11:05 AM
I really enjoyed last night's Raw. It brought me back to the "Golden Era" and mixed it with the "New Era." A couple of storylines took an interesting twist and I am curious to see how they move forward with AJ and with Punk. It did not bother me that Austin didn't show up, because I wasn't a big fan. I figured he was going to show up somewhere but alas nothing. Below is what I thought about Raw.

What I enjoyed about Raw in order:
1. DX full Reunion - C'mon it doesn't get any better than this. I would really like to see the NAO come back for a couple of matches or an backstage segment where Ziggler and Gunn pass each other and it looks as though they are looking in the mirror (lame comedy). The backstage segment with Trish was pretty good too.
2. Brothers of Destruction - Kane has been my favorite wrestler since he debuted in '98 and Taker is a living legend. Thought that they were going to have one more angle between the two.
3. CM Punk possible heel turn?: Not too sure if this is going to be believable since he is getting to be so over with the fans. It will be intriguing how they go about this storyline as I would really like to see the Rock and Punk go at it.
4. Heyman/HHH Segment: It is great that WWE has given Heyman and HHH to have free reign to say whatever they want. The feud is stating to get very believable. Stephanie coming out was a good aspect to further the storyline and hell it's a hot Stephanie Levesque. What's not to like.
5. Lita/APA - Lita is looking as hot as ever and still has the moves to back it up. I was genuinely surprised to see the APA show up and the JBL clothsline from hell was one of the best he has ever done.
6. Sin Cara: Glad to see they have been giving him a little more time to work and put him in with the big boys and to see the botches start to come down. I want to see him in a high flying feud with someone....Tyson Kidd maybe?


Couple of things I didn't enjoy:
1. Miz winnig IC title: I like the Miz, but the only reason I say this is because they gave the title to him to give credibility to further the movie and a face turn.
2. AJ as GM: Not really sure how this is going to pan out but Idk if I will be able to find her as a good GM. I was hoping it was going to be Regal or Flair along that nature. I will keep an open mind on the situation.
3. Social Media: Every 5 damn seconds Cole is shoving Twitter or Tout in my face or Charlie Sheen is trying to become relevant again. I really hope they do not do an angle at SS with Sheen vs. Bryan as it would be a waste of a good talent. Go from being the #1 contender for the WWE title to facing a washed up coke head?
4. Dude Love/Funkasaurus: If you want Mick Foley on a Raw, he should be Mankind. Enough said
5. The rest of the legends who wrestled the weeks prior: seeing you once was great but that was enough.
6. No Ryback: Probably going to criticized big time for this, but I am starting to like the guy.

...............................DAMN

Wrestling1
07-24-2012, 11:37 AM
flattest moment of the night for me was Lita being used as the final legend to face Heath Slater, as great as it was to see how little gravity has affected her over the last few years, I wanted Steve Blackman.


Edit: Biggest disappointment of the night was that Steve Austin wasn't there, though i'm sure he had his reasons.


idc she still loooked damn good . im sure cm punk isnt complaining ;)

World B. Free
07-24-2012, 11:38 AM
It SUCKED that Stone Cold wasn't part of the show but it was cool to see clips of the "Nature Boy"... Hopefully he'll be back in the WWE.

Jerichoholic_92
07-24-2012, 11:45 AM
I've seen one or 2 mention that.

Funny how people bash the Rock for prioritizing movies over wrestling, but when Austin does it, nobody says a thing.
Hypocritical much? :rolleyes:

Have you never considered the fact that The Rock was probably informed about this night months in advance ?

How much notice do you imagine they gave Austin or Edge ? They should have had Austin tied up months ago about this night, not a couple of weeks before.

Also lets state the facts, Stone Cold retired then went into acting full time. The Rock GAVE UP wrestling to GO INTO acting full time. Which is cool by me, but lets not be calling people hypocrites for not liking someone who's priorities lie elsewhere.

thejman93
07-24-2012, 12:08 PM
Highlight of the night for me was Punk's heel turn. Marked out for Lita, 'Taker and DX, too.

VanHooliganX
07-24-2012, 12:09 PM
Nobody is still reasoning that Edge and Austin were asked but turned THEM down due to other commitments? No?

God forbid Steve and Edge have other commitments in life other than wrestling. How dare they! :rolleyes:

dub
07-24-2012, 12:15 PM
Here we go with the frigging wrestling again. Look, this is a special occasion. Do you come on here and whine about the Slammies every year too? "WHERE ARE THE MATCHES???!?!?!?! WTFWTFTWOMG SLAMMIES!" Give it a month or two, then complain about the format if it's still the same. This night was about all the old fogies, all the folks that helped bring Raw to 1,000... fuck the matches for one night. We see matches every week.

No need to get hot viperfish just my thoughts... But I would like add uummmm, it wasn't just for one night. WWE has been putting very little wrestling on there main shows for months now... Did you catch the last 2, 3, or 4 Raws??? IDK about u but I actually like to see "wrestling" on "WRESTLING" shows. Call me crazy, The thing is that they hyped this 1st 3hr Raw up to be like the biggest thing ever and they did the same exact thing they've been doing for a while now. Adverstisements, Skits, Fillers, Very few matches. The only thing that changed is they had more time to do it.

Stihltygre
07-24-2012, 12:48 PM
on the AJ as Gm thing, i was mulling it over last night and it actually makes Sense, let me Splain....
ok the WWE has invested in some wrestling oriented Divas recently, AJ while never able to get over as a Diva, was able to get over as an "entertainment Personality" (I.e. psychotic whack job who makes you wonder if she's gonna kiss someone or pull out an axe) So we move her out the wrestling arena except for occasional matches, but put her in charge of people , being sweet and kind to them rght up until she sentences them to be in the ring with Kane tied to a warthog and blindfolded, oh and he gets to use chairs ( ok maybe that's an exaggeration), i'm going to give it a shot... she's been pretty entertaining lately lets see hat she can do.

HolyJose2391
07-24-2012, 12:57 PM
Just read Austin had knee surgery. So he couldn't make it there in crutches.

Cynicism
07-24-2012, 01:52 PM
Wow Lita looked damn hot..............

Had to get that out the way first. I kinda got what I thought I would, as it was going to be 3 hours of back patting. It was good to see The New Age Outlaws together again, it was a shame X-Pac got near a mic.

Stephanie looked hot too.......... present day divas are starting to feel like even more of a let down, have decided from the segment in the back that the thing I had for Layla stopped when she turned face it seems

Was a shame that Christian doesn't have the IC title any more, am fine with Miz getting it on his return though, like I was fine with Christian getting it on his. Would kind of like seeing Christian in a mentor like role for one of the up and comers, tagging with them, and being in their corner. I just figure he has a lot to give and Vince will never really let him shine might as well let him pass on his wisdom.

Brother of destruction? I was fine with the concept but really Drew, Rex and Hawkins have had enough bad hands dealt by creative of late.

I wish the Big Show wouldn't "spear" people..... well I wish he wouldn't be in the ring in the first place but seriously someone who cant run, jump or bend shouldn't be doing a spear, as Cena doesn't sell well it looked worse than normal tonight.

Punk as a heel? I'm cool with that, I cheer for him when he was in WWECW, I cheered for him against Meth Hardy, turning heel again wont make a difference to me, in fact it might make his promo's better, I know I want Christian to go heel again cause I prefer his heel work and Y2J to be a face again for the same kind of reason

RobHimself
07-24-2012, 02:02 PM
Im still laugthing my arse off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCpdBoqLJ68


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfUy57UbGE0

Yes2J
07-24-2012, 02:49 PM
Okay first of all, the first hour was INTENTIONALLY made into a nostalgia show. To be completely honest, Piper should have had his own segment and R-Truth should have been left out of that skit. The Mae Young hand was great because it's WWE poking fun at themselves...it's called a sense of humor people. The DX reunion was awesome because they didn't half-ass it like they did from like 2006-2010 (even though I very much enjoyed that as well). Trish should have been used in a little better capacity perhaps.

For those of you talking about other commitments and wrestlers possibly turning down offers to appear on the show, the WWE is a GIANT. They were planning this show for a long time more than likely, and they have a lot of resources and things at their disposal to get certain wrestlers to appear. Austin has almost always been a team player for them...so why do you think he would say no? He didn't say no to Tough Enough...maybe, since Andy didn't make it Austin wouldn't show? That is the ONLY reason I could think of.
WWE actually did a fantastic job of separating the nostalgia from the current wrestling program...no gripe there.
Not to mention Edge would be the only one to turn it down, because he needs to (in his mind) stay as far away as he can because he knows how tempting it would be to return.
Most superstars/wrestlers that were not there were covered in a video montage.
No Scotty II Hotty with 'Kish though? Not the worse, but seems like they should have done it.
The APA return was nice. Same with Lita.
The whole wedding segment seems like it was invented for nostalgic reasons, so it didn't really carry much weight.
The Brock Lesnar/Triple H segment wasn't the best...Heyman is still really good on the mic, as was Stephanie, though H seems to have lost a bit of his charisma.
Punk's heel turn wasn't a heel turn to the fullest capacity...he let Cena get beat up...everybody hates Cena.
Beating up The Rock was the ultimate dick/heel move, but keep in mind that Punk is going to protect his title, and now he has to deal with The Rock (or so he thinks anyways), so attacking him isn't all that personal. It continues CM Punk's cheered Tweener-ways.

ToiletBowl
07-24-2012, 02:55 PM
Randy Boreton getting the biggest response? I dont see it. He's so stale, it's quite sad. The pops for Vince, DX, APA, Rock, Punk, Bryan, etc would have easily trumped the return of Mr. Stale, Randy Boreton.

Yes2J
07-24-2012, 03:13 PM
Update: I heard a rumor that Austin is having knee surgery. Can anyone confirm?
EDIT: Well there we go...http://www.gossipcop.com/steve-austin-1000-episode-monday-night-raw-missed-grown-ups-2-stone-cold-knee-surgery/. I just don't get why the WWE didn't address this.

Dennis
07-24-2012, 04:02 PM
Randy Boreton getting the biggest response? I dont see it. He's so stale, it's quite sad. The pops for Vince, DX, APA, Rock, Punk, Bryan, etc would have easily trumped the return of Mr. Stale, Randy Boreton.
in mr boretons home town after a 2 month leave... it would by far of been the biggest pop of the night.. call orton all the names you want.. bottom line he is loved in that area, and is IMO a great in ring performer, don't hate because wwe creative tells him to do something and he does it thats not his fault thats wwe creative

kersh
07-24-2012, 04:16 PM
have to say one of the my best bits was the mae young hand. you know that 60-70% of the viewers didnt get it. and i liked the fact they could make fun out of stupid former stoylines.

imo they finished it much better than the computer/swoggle

eboy
07-24-2012, 04:21 PM
The guy with the GIGANTIC TNA Sig didn't like Raw?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I don't believe it!

Hey I prefer TNA, I make no bones about that, but that's my opinion.

but being a TNA "fanboy" if that's what you intending to label me as, never stops me from enjoying RAW, I thought RAW has been great the last few months, the Bryan/Punk/Kane/AJ feud was by far the best "love triangle" angle there has been for a long time. I like the idea of Rock, Lesnar, Cena and Undertaker all being involved in the main event matches of next years Wrestlemania and if anything I had high hopes for RAW 1000th episode, but for me it just didn't deliver on so many levels, I'd admit the same thing about a TNA show if need be. I didn't like RAW because in my opinion it was disapointment, that "mark my words" will soon be forgot, not because I happy that Chavo Guerrero is going to TNA.

kersh
07-24-2012, 04:43 PM
only thing missing was the kings dominos pizza he order about 10 episodes ago.

Kenny Kaos
07-24-2012, 05:40 PM
KK's Mark Out Moments:

Road Dogg, Xpac and The Bad "beep" Billy Gunn riding down in the army vehicle like they did invading WCW
Sandow getting a face pop when his music came on, then verbally berating DX, then getting nailed with SCM and a Pedigree
Mae Young's Hand...brilliant
Miz winning I.C. title, good to see the forgotten man getting remembered
Lita! WOW! Still looking great, great moonsalt
APA, and what a clothesline from JBL, Heath sold it Ziggler style
Rock, Punk, Bryan promo was excellent
Punk heel turn...outstanding

Only thing I didn't like were the adverts, Tout (I've only just gotten the hang of twitter ffs), Charlie Sheen and AJ being the GM...all LAME!

No point moaning about the lack of SCSA and Edge, rather moan about what they GAVE us instead of what they could have gave us

Lowki
07-24-2012, 06:27 PM
For those of you talking about other commitments and wrestlers possibly turning down offers to appear on the show, the WWE is a GIANT. They were planning this show for a long time more than likely, and they have a lot of resources and things at their disposal to get certain wrestlers to appear. Austin has almost always been a team player for them...so why do you think he would say no? He didn't say no to Tough Enough...maybe, since Andy didn't make it Austin wouldn't show? That is the ONLY reason I could think of.

Knee Injury and surgery, he confirmed it. It has nothing to do with some andy guy getting sacked.

Lowki
07-24-2012, 06:29 PM
KK's Mark Out Moments:

Road Dogg, Xpac and The Bad "beep" Billy Gunn riding down in the army vehicle like they did invading WCW
Sandow getting a face pop when his music came on, then verbally berating DX, then getting nailed with SCM and a Pedigree
Mae Young's Hand...brilliant
Miz winning I.C. title, good to see the forgotten man getting remembered
Lita! WOW! Still looking great, great moonsalt
APA, and what a clothesline from JBL, Heath sold it Ziggler style
Rock, Punk, Bryan promo was excellent
Punk heel turn...outstanding

Only thing I didn't like were the adverts, Tout (I've only just gotten the hang of twitter ffs), Charlie Sheen and AJ being the GM...all LAME!

No point moaning about the lack of SCSA and Edge, rather moan about what they GAVE us instead of what they could have gave us
ALl of this. I personally thought it was a really entertaining show. If anyone really expected great matches (they fit in 3 ok matches) then you've never watched a nostalgia driven show before.


Im still laugthing my arse off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCpdBoqLJ68


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfUy57UbGE0
This made me fucking cry!

Yes2J
07-24-2012, 11:18 PM
Knee Injury and surgery, he confirmed it. It has nothing to do with some andy guy getting sacked.
See the post I made after that one. That didn't seem like an Austin move in the first place. I just meant to say that it was the only thing that would have stopped him. I had no clue he had (at the time I posted that comment) gotten injured though.

Yes2J
07-25-2012, 12:18 AM
ALl of this. I personally thought it was a really entertaining show. If anyone really expected great matches (they fit in 3 ok matches) then you've never watched a nostalgia driven show before.


This made me fucking cry!
Also I do agree with you. I enjoyed it. This is probably the best episode in years. I was thoroughly impressed with the booking. Although SuperCena should have been turned heel back when he had the strap (one of the 20-some odd times)...having CM Punk attack The Rock was pretty legit. He does still look like a Tweener...maybe, but he is much closer to heel than ever before (while he had the belt as a face). I thought for sure Cena was going to win just because it was such a big event. They had their heads screwed on tight for this one.

I disliked that the Miz beat Christian (cleanly), but this will be a great feud going into the next PPV. Christian is there to put guys over don't forget. For that, I don't mind it.

Everything else was solid entertainment. One segment in particular, the DX segment, really brought smile to my face (as did the segment with the Undertaker and Lita w/ the APA) because I have met Billy Gunn and Road Dogg at multiple indy shows...they actually worked an nWo vs. DX angle in that promotion with X Pac Nash and Hall and the N.A.O...and Gunn enjoyed himself. The main problem was really that he so badly wanted to get back into the WWE. Road Dogg finally made his way back...but still no Mr. Ass. I honestly almost cried when he (and X Pac) were included. I had hoped for it, but never expected it. They even let Gunn close out the segment. What a time...what a great talent honestly too. He was great on the mic and had good in-ring ability. He stopped himself with personal demons and bad career decisions. Good hearted man though.

Dillon
07-28-2012, 12:01 PM
I may have missed it if it has been mentioned somewhere within the thread, but I haven't seen much talk of the Nexus rib they did for the Kane/Undertaker segment (admittedly there isn't much to say), for a moment I thought that was the big summer angle! Was a bit of a laugh when Jinder was talking about it on the mic though.

Spear-O-Matic
07-29-2012, 10:22 AM
I've seen one or 2 mention that.

Funny how people bash the Rock for prioritizing movies over wrestling, but when Austin does it, nobody says a thing.
Hypocritical much? :rolleyes:

Yeah except SCSA didn't just drop the WWE and disappear from it for six years. He's made appearances and hosted the newest iteration of Tough Enough, while the Rock left for about six years, appeared "via satellite" for the 10th Anniversary of Smackdown and then returned just over a year ago to not-even-semi-active competition. I'd say Austin has been far more active than Rocky and so we can forgive him for sacrificing the 'E for one night.

Vinnie P Jr
07-29-2012, 05:45 PM
While I was happy to see the past stars on the 1000th episode of Raw , I was disappointed that WWE did not do a memorial to the lost wrestlers who were on the show in the past .

Anyone agree ?

Dennis
07-29-2012, 05:52 PM
they had a highlight clip for them. I mean what else could they do?

Vinnie P Jr
07-29-2012, 05:55 PM
they had a highlight clip for them. I mean what else could they do?

True but I still would have loved a memorial

helmsley
07-29-2012, 06:23 PM
missed the clip actually, i was probably on the bathroom but i think that a clip is enough, kind of like the oscars and stuff

Tommy Thunder
07-29-2012, 06:33 PM
While acknowledging past wrestlers is important, I think showing that clip was enough. The focus now needs to be on the current stars, so taking a whole segment to remember past wrestlers would have been a bit too much IMO.
The video they showed was nice and an adequate tribute to the fallen for me.