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Cabers
06-06-2012, 02:07 PM
So this is why Mark Henry is out shoulder injury indeed! He clearly has eaten the WWE Championship shat out this monstrosity and now is out for 6 months with a shattered rectum.

I'm starting to sound more like William Regal every day now. Deary me.

HeelTurn
06-06-2012, 02:08 PM
So this is why Mark Henry is out shoulder injury indeed! He clearly has eaten the WWE Championship shat out this monstrosity and now is out for 6 months with a shattered rectum.

I'm starting to sound more like William Regal every day now. Deary me.

You wish :p lol

Haruko Haruhara
06-06-2012, 02:13 PM
Its sitting next to a CD cover. If it is part of the belt is a side place. maybe for the new US title. But its too small to be the main center plate. Be more observant people. Its also looks like a wood casting spray painted. there is a dude who does this a lot.

Asherdelampyr
06-06-2012, 02:24 PM
Its sitting next to a CD cover. If it is part of the belt is a side place. maybe for the new US title. But its too small to be the main center plate. Be more observant people. Its also looks like a wood casting spray painted. there is a dude who does this a lot.

yes, yes it does.
either wood or plastic, but that's painted

Mojo Tartarus
06-06-2012, 02:25 PM
1 Hornswoggle + 1 Shillelagh + 1 used corned beef tin.

Broc
06-06-2012, 02:50 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't mind the current WWE Title?

Asherdelampyr
06-06-2012, 02:52 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't mind the current WWE Title?
I think you may be

JSullivan
06-06-2012, 02:52 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't mind the current WWE Title?

You and Jahn Ceyna, I believe.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
06-06-2012, 02:55 PM
Please no! that thing is ugly.

I don't hate the current title, but it's time for a change or bring back one of the old school ones.

ELNIOJR
06-06-2012, 02:55 PM
You attempts at intelligent sounding responses fail when you make mistakes like 'costed.'

Who told you Im attempting to sound intelligent? Just because I used a Sandow's line? Did I use any BIG WORD in my post to make me sound lke I'm a BIG SHOT?! No, I didnt! And what's wrong with COSTED? I used verb "Cost" in past tense? Is it wrong? Cause if it is, I apologize then cause English is not my first language. Even if it's not, this is not an excuse.

I could spend all my days here analyzing misspellings on people posts. But, is there anything amusing about that, really?

magglis
06-06-2012, 02:56 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't mind the current WWE Title?
I love the WWE title i don't think they could make a better one

magglis
06-06-2012, 02:57 PM
I think you may be


You and Jahn Ceyna, I believe.
He is not alone

ELNIOJR
06-06-2012, 03:00 PM
maybe it's just not done cooking?

Maybe they need Cena's final imput on it? :rolleyes:

Asherdelampyr
06-06-2012, 03:01 PM
He is not alone
no, no he's not
there's two of ya now, turn your back for a second and more just crop up :p

Giddy
06-06-2012, 03:03 PM
You attempts at intelligent sounding responses fail when you make mistakes like 'costed.'
He's quoting Sandow because he likes Sandow. He's not trying to sound smart.

C'mon son, don't be a noob.

magglis
06-06-2012, 03:03 PM
no, no he's not
there's two of ya now, turn your back for a second and more just crop up :p
You jealous because we are two now

Asherdelampyr
06-06-2012, 03:04 PM
You jealous because we are two now

only if you also get special secret club hats will I be jealous

magglis
06-06-2012, 03:04 PM
He's quoting Sandow because he likes Sandow. He's not trying to sound smart.

C'mon son, don't be a noob.
Here he comes to save the day!

Rated_R(ob)KO
06-06-2012, 03:06 PM
I didn't read through 7 pages of crap so I'm just posting this:

1.) A TON of sites are saying this is the legit new WWE Championship. And it's a horrible excuse for one as well might I add.

2.) CM Punk said himself that he didn't like it. He said it was not what he wanted and that we had to decide which was better or worse.

3.) CM Punk also stated that it weighs over 20lbs.

This is your new WWE Championship, people. And I need to make one on Photoshop... I know I can do better than that garbage.

magglis
06-06-2012, 03:06 PM
only if you also get special secret club hats will I be jealous
You mean this one

http://www.clubhats.com/images/HalfMesh/HalfMeshBark2015.jpg

jelle1809
06-06-2012, 03:09 PM
ugly as shit

Asherdelampyr
06-06-2012, 03:11 PM
You mean this one

http://www.clubhats.com/images/HalfMesh/HalfMeshBark2015.jpg

that hat sucks
my super-secret club hat is much better

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2056/2446470260_df4f601df9_z.jpg

Suhayl
06-06-2012, 03:12 PM
You and Jahn Ceyna, I believe.

Cena has actually said that he doesn't like the WWE Title anymore and that it needs a change.

magglis
06-06-2012, 03:13 PM
that hat sucks
my super-secret club hat is much better

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2056/2446470260_df4f601df9_z.jpg
Hey Jack is on
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fkX3Bgu2RX0/Tf7q3YJEjxI/AAAAAAAAAGg/95MWPRX23uQ/s320/jacksparrow.jpg

TheRockerGother
06-06-2012, 03:20 PM
That belt makes Jeff Hardys custom TNA belt look gorgeous.

ELNIOJR
06-06-2012, 03:23 PM
He's quoting Sandow because he likes Sandow. He's not trying to sound smart.

C'mon son, don't be a noob.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfi8fT9oHkQ&feature=related

thedag
06-06-2012, 03:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tfi8fT9oHkQ&feature=related


i'll say it again cause it looks like some people dont read the thread before posting. you can see a cd case in the pic. the "belt" is the same size as the case. so its not the new belt but maybe the side plate.

Cabers
06-06-2012, 03:48 PM
1 Hornswoggle + 1 Shillelagh + 1 used corned beef tin.

Sounds like a blue dragon alchemy formula ah yes!!


1 Horny + 1 Shillelagh + 1 used corner beef tin = WWE Championship.


XBox 360 Achievement unlocked: 200 Points - Make the shittiest looking piece of shit that ever shat.

ELNIOJR
06-06-2012, 03:50 PM
i'll say it again cause it looks like some people dont read the thread before posting. you can see a cd case in the pic. the "belt" is the same size as the case. so its not the new belt but maybe the side plate.

That's a good and valid point, mate. Respect that. Look, I'm as confused as everyone else. All the websites are (only now) reporting it. All I did was POST THE PICTURE. I have no idea what's going on, man :)

jordan1995
06-06-2012, 03:50 PM
There's no way that's legit. It looks like it weighs a ton for starters lol!

CM Punk did an interview with kids over the weekend , cant find it online but on Don Tony and kevin castle show the play the audio on 75 mins http://prowrestlingwebcast.libsyn.com/ Punk says it looks just as Ugly as the current one and that its 20 pound heavier.
check it out

GreatMuta4life
06-06-2012, 03:53 PM
3 points:

1. I seriously doubt that's what the finished design will look like. How many fakes have we seen posted over the years?

2. WWE has a long history of ugly belts (aside from the mythical winged eagle of course). This is par for the course

3. Does it really matter that much? I'm not too concerned

peppermill25
06-06-2012, 04:16 PM
............................................hahaha theres no way. * nervous laughter

SkilletBoi
06-06-2012, 04:29 PM
excuse me if im repeating points, im not going through 9 pages...

punk said it would be about 20lbs heavier than the current one

for now, im not so keen on it but im sure it could be made a bit better than there current depeding on what the 'E decide to do with the straps and stuff.

imo its not the finished version so we'll just have to stay tuned i guess.

johnnydropkicks
06-06-2012, 05:07 PM
y'know it looks heavy and pretty chunky. if it is a side plate then that's the only thing it has going for it in terms of matching with what we've heard about the new silver belt with it being said to be heavy. except that this is gold.

also that mark henry comment dunno if that's creative or only wtf

HCollins-TNA1
06-06-2012, 05:14 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mXXrkZqw29w/T89-GJ2ff8I/AAAAAAAAC5U/pXpHEn-rhY8/s400/j5k27n.jpg


My relevant opinion: I dont like it.
More to come I guess...
It looks way better then that crappy spinner belt....

PSOjedi
06-06-2012, 05:35 PM
Really awful. Actual is better.

AWFUL

Playboy Stevie V
06-06-2012, 05:54 PM
I never thought I would say this, but the UFC belts look better.

Rockstar83
06-06-2012, 06:06 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mXXrkZqw29w/T89-GJ2ff8I/AAAAAAAAC5U/pXpHEn-rhY8/s400/j5k27n.jpg


My relevant opinion: I dont like it.
More to come I guess...

TO be honest when I first looked at it, I was like "????!!!????" then i was like "At least its not like that gay spinner aka -Non Spinning- WWE title they have now. Its like what Cena aint god! Just stick with the same title he had before he F&#^'d it up."

GreatMuta4life
06-06-2012, 06:07 PM
I never thought I would say this, but the UFC belts look better.

I wouldn't go that far. The UFC belts look like the blown up version of something that was on action figures.

Here's two real belts, worn by the baddest man to ever walk the face of the earth, Fedor Emelianenko:
2556
(click it to see the pic bigger)

pauadrian
06-06-2012, 06:18 PM
This looks like the old WWE championshp

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/556616/800px-wwf_attitude_championship.jpg


At least the size does

Playboy Stevie V
06-06-2012, 06:22 PM
I wouldn't go that far. The UFC belts look like the blown up version of something that was on action figures.

Here's two real belts, worn by the baddest man to ever walk the face of the earth, Fedor Emelianenko:
2556
(click it to see the pic bigger)

Yep...love Fedors belt

But seriously, I'd rather have a blown up action figure belt then a belt design that looks like it should be worn on a gold chain around a cracked out Flavor Flav neck.

thedag
06-06-2012, 06:37 PM
smh at people who think that is the main front plate of the belt.

Asherdelampyr
06-06-2012, 06:43 PM
smh at people who think that is the main front plate of the belt.
smh at the constant need people feel to continually bleat about how right they totally are

Playboy Stevie V
06-06-2012, 06:45 PM
smh at people who think that is the main front plate of the belt.

Seeing is believing and regardless which side it is, or how unfinshed, it is being presented as what the new belt is going too look like in some form. It still looks like a less goddy version of John Cena's hip hop character novelty spinner belt, without the spinner.

Might as well give the champ a matching pimp cup for purple drank or in Punk's case grape soda and his WU TANG CLAN fan club grill

Until i see different, this is what im judging.

Jerihoar
06-06-2012, 06:48 PM
Kinda looks like a close up of a side plate...Either way looks like a cheap piece of crap that a dollar store would sell as a "WWE title"

ELNIOJR
06-06-2012, 06:53 PM
Guys...WAIT is the word. Not BIRD! Just WAIT...for the final result/belt!

Haruko Haruhara
06-06-2012, 11:45 PM
I like the current championship!

Incubus_99
06-07-2012, 01:07 AM
This definitely looks like a work in progress, if this indeed is the new design...y do I have a feeling they're gonna slap this bitch up with a lot of jewels...

the shape also resembles the US Title a bit...the WWE logo is really huge...i'm gonna wait until it actually is revealed...

Tommy Thunder
06-07-2012, 01:12 AM
So it seems that this is actually the new belt. Or at least a working progress of the new one.
In it's current state, they may as well just give the guys a gold bar on a chain to wear.

Kryptonite
06-07-2012, 01:33 AM
Sandow looks like a fat-ass in that bathrobe. Just saying.

Tommy Thunder
06-07-2012, 01:38 AM
Sandow looks like a fat-ass in that bathrobe. Just saying.

Ummm, wrong thread?

Kryptonite
06-07-2012, 01:38 AM
I found the new one!

http://ezprint.dwdata.com/img/95e12dfc99fad85e28f5de7058b4b477_11723759490.jpg

I was searching on google for 'shitty title' than the title from ELNIO came up! WTF FTW OMG LMFAO!

Kryptonite
06-07-2012, 01:39 AM
Ummm, wrong thread?
No, I saw it on the signature of ELNIO, and I laughed because Sandow is ugly.

Tommy Thunder
06-07-2012, 01:40 AM
No, I saw it on the signature of ELNIO, and I laughed because Sandow is ugly.

But it's relevant to this topic how exactly?

Kryptonite
06-07-2012, 01:43 AM
But it's relevant to this topic how exactly?
For god sake Tommy, why so serious it was a joke.

Broc
06-07-2012, 01:45 AM
For god sake Tommy, why so serious it was a joke.

Spam is bad mkay. If you spam, you're bad, mkay.

Kryptonite
06-07-2012, 01:47 AM
Spam is bad mkay. If you spam, you're bad, mkay.
Spam? Okay...

Tommy Thunder
06-07-2012, 01:48 AM
For god sake Tommy, why so serious it was a joke.

It's a bad time. It's 7:48am (exactly), I'm grumpy in the morning.

Broc
06-07-2012, 01:49 AM
Spam? Okay...

Yes. If it's not relevant to the topic, it's spam.

There's a lot of that here though.

Kryptonite
06-07-2012, 01:49 AM
It's a bad time. It's 7:48am (exactly), I'm grumpy in the morning.
I see Tomster. :rolleyes:

Kryptonite
06-07-2012, 01:49 AM
Yes. If it's not relevant to the topic, it's spam.

There's a lot of that here though.
So you say i am a spammer..

magglis
06-07-2012, 01:51 AM
Yes. If it's not relevant to the topic, it's spam.

There's a lot of that here though.
Because its EWN

EWN Probie
06-07-2012, 02:54 AM
my opinion on this is that this is only the side plate of the belt and won't reveal the title until the time is right. You know how WWE likes to tease the fans

The Brown One
06-07-2012, 02:55 AM
Guess Punk was telling the truth when he said the belt was quite a lot heavier and just as awful as the current WWE title. Some say it might look more like this after it's "done".
http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1339007283623.png
I'm still annoyed at whoever came up with the design though. They could have put more thought into it.

Tommy Thunder
06-07-2012, 02:59 AM
Guess Punk was telling the truth when he said the belt was quite a lot heavier and just as awful as the current WWE title. Some say it might look more like this after it's "done".
http://boards.420chan.org/wooo/src/1339007283623.png
I'm still annoyed at whoever came up with the design though. They could have put more thought into it.

That's actually what I imagine he finished thing will look like IF indeed this is legit. It looks like it weighs a ton, and the design looks like something a kid came up with.
I guess they just don't want to use a traditional design, and want to keep the unorthodox style that they started with the Spinner belt.

Keith Stone
06-07-2012, 03:21 AM
god that belt design is awful
looks a cheap 5 dollar belt buckle or a Chocolate bar wrapped in Golden Tin foil
here's the real belt thou


http://assets.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/no-slug/409ca2a9e3db9925f9c525114050d421.jpg

The Brown One
06-07-2012, 04:08 AM
That's actually what I imagine he finished thing will look like IF indeed this is legit. It looks like it weighs a ton, and the design looks like something a kid came up with.
I guess they just don't want to use a traditional design, and want to keep the unorthodox style that they started with the Spinner belt.

I don't get why they decided to make it a bulky title. Did they think that would better represent their top stars? Can you imagine smaller guys like Punk, Christian, and Ziggler holding the title? It'll look oversized. Why couldn't just have thought of something that wrestling fans could be proud of. I didn't care if they brought back an old design or created a new one, but what they've done is made a 30 pound piece of crap. The WWECW title was bulky like this, and yet it looked better. EVEN THE CURRENT WWE TITLE LOOKS BETTER. The worse part is that we've got to see the title for the next 10 years.

ELNIOJR
06-07-2012, 06:49 AM
No, I saw it on the signature of ELNIO, and I laughed because Sandow is ugly.

But it's relevant to this topic how exactly?

Tommy, basically now, even my signature is getting Verbally Accosted by some Sophomoric Bantering here in this forum. I dont get It. Really dont...

DEVENKEITH
06-07-2012, 05:05 PM
I honestly think it looks like the SIDE plates.. not the actual front of the belt.. Just makes more sense.

HCollins-TNA1
06-07-2012, 05:17 PM
Again I'm going say anything is better then that John Cena WWE Spinner belt......
I Always had prefer either the (WCW)World title ( big Gold Belt) or the Andre the Giant title...
https://encrypted-tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWn1nXIIBNjPhQWBYDzi1XTrtVX1x-Li6pUtXbAg7p8qN9HCVs

jelle1809
06-07-2012, 05:56 PM
like stated before: ugly as shit!

Vince desperately needs to know that he needs a new and FRESH wwe strap

MrFlacid1
06-09-2012, 01:22 PM
There's no way that's legit. It looks like it weighs a ton for starters lol!

Well in an interview, punk did say that the new belt that "he's seen" weighs more.
Still not sure I believe the picture. It looks more like a belt buckle. Plus, where's the nameplate?
You know what though- I hate the current one so much, that I can't help but perceive this as an improvement.

MrFlacid1
06-09-2012, 01:28 PM
It looks like it could be one of the side-plates, not the main centerpiece.

MrFlacid1
06-10-2012, 04:57 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't mind the current WWE Title?

yes. Yes you are. And maybe a bunch of 7 year olds.

Lowki
06-12-2012, 12:21 PM
He's quoting Sandow because he likes Sandow. He's not trying to sound smart.

C'mon son, don't be a noob.
Does he really?! I never guessed...
All of this is irrelevant. After i posted that correction, I still contributed to the discussion.


Who told you Im attempting to sound intelligent? Just because I used a Sandow's line? Did I use any BIG WORD in my post to make me sound lke I'm a BIG SHOT?! No, I didnt! And what's wrong with COSTED? I used verb "Cost" in past tense? Is it wrong? Cause if it is, I apologize then cause English is not my first language. Even if it's not, this is not an excuse.

I could spend all my days here analyzing misspellings on people posts. But, is there anything amusing about that, really?
If English isn't your first language, then i apologize. Cost is one of those difficult words that often confuses non-English native speakers because the spelling doesn't change, whether you use in the past or future tense. I understand that you were responding as Sandow would speak, but as it's a cultured and intelligent gimmick, i thought i'd just point out the mistake. I'm not hating, just saying.

Back to the topic; I don't get why so many people want a "classic" title back instead. In this day and age, I'm sick of the amount of rehashing in everything. Whether it's music, or films just using the same old formulas or reusing and tweaking old scripts, just because it's 'Safer.' Even games are just going through the motions most of the time; especially series titles - CoD is the prime example of that. I'm sure it's not THAT difficult to design a belt on paper then get that made, jeez. Make it look old school if they want; give it that feel of 'prestige,' but don't just be lazy and re-use the title.

Robstar
07-10-2012, 11:50 PM
This thread is going to be for all the little stuff going on in WWE that doesn't warrant it's own whole thread. Because there's plenty - and plenty will be merged here.

*The hirings
*The firings
*The backstage stuff
*The injuries
*The name changes
*The rumours
etc.

Robstar
07-10-2012, 11:53 PM
There are reports that Finlay has been rehired by WWE. Thoughts?

Does the Hornswoggle angle this week mean we'll be seeing Finlay on screen with the little bastard again?

I'm glad they have rehired Finlay, if only because for every soap writer they hire, they need a veteran performer to balance that out.

Dennis
07-11-2012, 12:12 AM
first off I'd like the hiring of finlay.. an on screen role for him could be fun as someones manager.. maybe another European to push that superstar... quick question does anyone know when randy orton is actually going to come back to the wwe? and is he just coming back as the top face on smackdown again? I know there have been talks of being a heel.. but that's probably not going to happen

SilverGhost
07-11-2012, 01:14 AM
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/7231/fit-finlay-back-with-wwe-details

I'm happy that Finlay is back. He could do a lot for the business now with his skills. Maybe later on, the in-ring stuff will be better. Thoughts?

The Brown One
07-11-2012, 01:19 AM
first off I'd like the hiring of finlay.. an on screen role for him could be fun as someones manager.. maybe another European to push that superstar... quick question does anyone know when randy orton is actually going to come back to the wwe? and is he just coming back as the top face on smackdown again? I know there have been talks of being a heel.. but that's probably not going to happen

I like the concept of this thread.
Orton should be back after the 1000th Raw. He'll likely be used in feuds with Del Rio and Sheamus, as apparently that's been advertised for live events.

There were people saying that the new WWE title will be unveiled on the 1000th Raw. Thoughts on this?

The Brown One
07-11-2012, 01:22 AM
Didn't he work with the Divas to try to improve their skills?
I'm not too sure what he'll be doing as a producer, but they should let him work with the Divas again, as it'll bring back some decent matches instead of stuff that's worse than seeing the Bella Twins and Kelly.

Wrestling Realist
07-11-2012, 01:23 AM
It's great he is back but Wow what a stupid reason to get fired for, WWE has only done that spot a hundred times over

K2Jelly
07-11-2012, 01:24 AM
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?21848-WWE-Happenings-*All-The-Small-Things*

Wrestling Realist
07-11-2012, 01:29 AM
I like the concept of this thread.
Orton should be back after the 1000th Raw. He'll likely be used in feuds with Del Rio and Sheamus, as apparently that's been advertised for live events.

There were people saying that the new WWE title will be unveiled on the 1000th Raw. Thoughts on this?
Orton still suspended on the 1000th Raw not sure about the title but they been hinting at a new Raw stage

Bodom
07-11-2012, 01:48 AM
Note the word “reportedly” that was used.

For those that don't understand the meaning of the word, this means it hasn't been confirmed and should be viewed as such.

Wade Barrett 1979
07-11-2012, 02:29 AM
People can't even be happy with a return, without resorting to moaning. :rolleyes:

Robstar
07-11-2012, 02:37 AM
Yes! I get to merge an SG thread! :D

masakaritko
07-11-2012, 06:12 AM
I have some topics to discuss. When the hell is Dean Ambrose going to finally debut on tv? How will the Rock come about winning the WWE title? Will the new WWE title actually be revealed at the 1000th Raw, or is there really a new WWE title being made at all? Will Ric Flair come back at the 1000th Raw? Is Trips going to perform at WM 29, and against who? When will they let Tensai just be Albert again? Is Matt Morgan really going to come back to WWE? I can see how this thread will get very confusing, very fast.

Wade Barrett 1979
07-11-2012, 06:38 AM
I have some topics to discuss. When the hell is Dean Ambrose going to finally debut on tv? How will the Rock come about winning the WWE title? Will the new WWE title actually be revealed at the 1000th Raw, or is there really a new WWE title being made at all? Will Ric Flair come back at the 1000th Raw? Is Trips going to perform at WM 29, and against who? When will they let Tensai just be Albert again? Is Matt Morgan really going to come back to WWE? I can see how this thread will get very confusing, very fast.

Soon-ish!
By beating the champ
Don't think so and not sure
Good possibility
Would think so, possibly Lesnar again
Never
Good possibility
Not that confusing really

Robstar
07-11-2012, 04:07 PM
I have some topics to discuss. When the hell is Dean Ambrose going to finally debut on tv? How will the Rock come about winning the WWE title? Will the new WWE title actually be revealed at the 1000th Raw, or is there really a new WWE title being made at all? Will Ric Flair come back at the 1000th Raw? Is Trips going to perform at WM 29, and against who? When will they let Tensai just be Albert again? Is Matt Morgan really going to come back to WWE? I can see how this thread will get very confusing, very fast.

Only if anal-retentive people show up in here with a laundry list of questions all at once, instead of just one at a time. But, who would be that idiotic - right?

Robstar
07-11-2012, 08:58 PM
Hey I just caught this on Shane McMahon's Wiki page;

He has returned to WWE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE), but for a short time only, as the current President and Chief Executive Officer, Atrinsic, Inc.

Anyone know more about this?

masakaritko
07-12-2012, 01:26 AM
Only if anal-retentive people show up in here with a laundry list of questions all at once, instead of just one at a time. But, who would be that idiotic - right?
Idiotic? so, your calling names because I busted your balls over the fact that this thread is about multiple topics and is literally a continuous conversation between people who either have ADD or generally have a really short attention span? Basically preventing people from having a continuous intelligent discussion about one topic. No offense to anyone else on this thread, I'm just busting Robstar's balls here. Anywho, you're probably thinking that I could have just skipped over this thread if I didn't like the idea. Actually I think it was a brilliant effort but if the thread does go long enough, and the people who may not be on these forums religiously might start reading and get confused because the topics continuously bounce around. The point I was making by asking all of those questions in one post relates to having a ton of people at the same time stating their opinions or asking questions. Are you going to respond to all of them? Now don't get all fumy from this post. This is all in good fun. Crazy, I was crazy once. They put me in a tiny rubber room. I died there. Died. I died once. They put me in a deep dark hole, with worms. Worms, I hate worms, worms make me crazy. Crazy, I was crazy once....

Robstar
07-12-2012, 01:34 AM
Hey, you see all those threads below this one? 95% didn't deserve their own thread. Fact.

masakaritko
07-12-2012, 01:39 AM
Hey I just caught this on Shane McMahon's Wiki page;

He has returned to WWE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE), but for a short time only, as the current President and Chief Executive Officer, Atrinsic, Inc.

Anyone know more about this?

He hasn't returned to WWE by any means, but he recently took over duties at Atrinsic, Inc, while also running YOU on demand, but Atrinsic, Inc will actually be distributing the WWE network and possibly a WWE network On demand service to cable and satellite providers such as direct tv, time warner, comcast, or whoever actually buys on to carry the network, and Shane McMahon is likely to thank for that. So basically minimal involvement, if it even counts as involvement.

masakaritko
07-12-2012, 01:42 AM
Hey, you see all those threads below this one? 95% didn't deserve their own thread. Fact.
yes, but that's the thing, your job as a moderator is to weed those out and merge threads that are related to the same topic, am i right? It keeps you busy. You like it. You know you do.

Robstar
07-12-2012, 02:07 AM
Which is why I created this corner to merge threads to. See how that works?

Oh and if you're worried that too many topics might lose people, let me introduce you to the Chocolate Blades of Thunder thread - http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?8874-Chocolate-Blades-of-Thunder/page1613 - over 1600 pages containing literally thousands of topics and still going strong.

Anyway, I have better things to do than be forever reading every thread and weeding out the internet detrius. It's not like they pay me for this stuff.

masakaritko
07-12-2012, 02:20 AM
Which is why I created this corner to merge threads to. See how that works?

Oh and if you're worried that too many topics might lose people, let me introduce you to the Chocolate Blades of Thunder thread - http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?8874-Chocolate-Blades-of-Thunder/page1613 - over 1600 pages containing literally thousands of topics and still going strong.

Anyway, I have better things to do than be forever reading every thread and weeding out the internet detrius. It's not like they pay me for this stuff.

chocolate blades of thunder, nice name. I may have to save that to my favorites so i don't lose it in the endless jungle of these forums.

Robstar
07-12-2012, 02:22 AM
I find if you just skim the surface, all the good cream is usually at the top already

mikeofiowa
07-12-2012, 05:14 PM
I just looked at her twitter and this is what i saw. https://twitter.com/Kharma/status/223528006617014273 Any truth to it you think or is it just her toying with us?

Asherdelampyr
07-12-2012, 05:16 PM
I just looked at her twitter and this is what i saw. https://twitter.com/Kharma/status/223528006617014273 Any truth to it you think or is it just her toying with us?

What do you think? Thinking is so important.
you go first

K2Jelly
07-12-2012, 05:19 PM
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?21848-WWE-Happenings-*All-The-Small-Things*

OneTimePosterShorry
07-12-2012, 05:20 PM
Nice try, Kia.

If she were released, the Wrestling Observer or WrestleZone or PWInsider would pick it up. Today the Wrestling Observer reported that the WWE were discussing a possible feud between her and Sara Del Rey.


http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/7271 ... o-wwe-more (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/7271/backstage-update-on-sara-del-ray-to-wwe-more)


Last week, Kharma told her fansite she was coming back for the 1000th RAW, but later had them delete it.


Such as shame if it's the case that she would be leaving because she was getting ready for her return, even posting photos of her training sessions. If not, see you on the 23rd!

Last week, Kharma told her fansite she was coming back for the 1000th RAW, but later had them delete it.

Such as shame if it's the case that she would be leaving because she was getting ready for her return, even posting photos of her training sessions.

jelle1809
07-12-2012, 05:22 PM
pzzzttt. I checked, she still stands in the actual roster on the site.

Asherdelampyr
07-12-2012, 05:22 PM
few things

1. Love the idea of Finlay being back, even if I don't get to see him wrestle. Really hoping that he starts working with the divas again, as he has a real talent for it (I think GD is still working with them, but both wouldn't hurt) either way, he was fired over nothing, and it's about damn time they take him back.

2. Sarah Del Ray. This I am happy about, especially if she is training the divas.

3. Kharma. When the hell will we see her? Also, why the hell are people still believing twitter feeds when it's been confirmed that WWE is using twitter to advance storylines?

Asherdelampyr
07-12-2012, 05:23 PM
chocolate blades of thunder, nice name. I may have to save that to my favorites so i don't lose it in the endless jungle of these forums.

CBOT is the best half of this forum
true story

masakaritko
07-12-2012, 05:41 PM
Not sure if you guys read the article about vince going all out for raw 1000, but it said he had a number of returns he wanted to keep secret, even by having those people deceive the public into thinking they would be somewhere else, or falsifying releases and alumni status. Karma could very well be one of those people.

Tommy Thunder
07-12-2012, 05:46 PM
Not sure if you guys read the article about vince going all out for raw 1000, but it said he had a number of returns he wanted to keep secret, even by having those people deceive the public into thinking they would be somewhere else, or falsifying releases and alumni status. Karma could very well be one of those people.

^^^This^^^

I highly doubt that she's been legit released.

Wade Barrett 1979
07-12-2012, 06:03 PM
This is the kind of thing where you read, 2 + 2 and end up with 13!

TheRockerGother
07-12-2012, 06:07 PM
I just checked she's not on the divas page anymore...:( but who knows???

Lowki
07-12-2012, 06:12 PM
She is on the current wrestler page however.

davieboytellem
07-12-2012, 06:14 PM
maybe she returns under a new name/gimmick? Hopefully Amazing Kong

Great One
07-12-2012, 06:17 PM
I just hope it aint true

Lowki
07-12-2012, 06:27 PM
It's being reported that she was actually joking and was moved to the alumni section accidentally...

TheRockerGother
07-12-2012, 06:27 PM
This whole this is just confusing we're just going to have to wait and see.

Robstar
07-12-2012, 07:14 PM
It's been reported as a mistake. Moving.

Robstar
07-12-2012, 08:13 PM
Well it seems that the Kharma situation is still up in the air. We'll see

TheRockerGother
07-12-2012, 08:37 PM
Just heard that it's the real deal but I don't even know what to believe anymore in this situation!

YOUcanCALLmeCRACK
07-12-2012, 08:39 PM
If they let her go before the 14th, she can appear the day of Bound For Glory. Just sayin'.

davieboytellem
07-12-2012, 08:58 PM
Are firings really under "small things" and not warrant to their own threads?

Robstar
07-12-2012, 08:59 PM
Yes because as firings, the topics will A) have no future and B) soon not be WWE relevant

davieboytellem
07-12-2012, 09:02 PM
Kharma is backed by most of the IWC, and most are outraged and want the latest on what's happening with her. I think its stupid to include a topic like this in the thread made for small, insignificant things.

Robstar
07-12-2012, 09:04 PM
They're only small in the long run. If she is indeed fired, she's no longer a WWE topic. If she stays, then making a thread would be pointless, wouldn't you think?

davieboytellem
07-12-2012, 09:06 PM
And which threads are valuable in the long run? The direct-tv vs viacom thread or the brian hebner thread?

Robstar
07-12-2012, 09:06 PM
Was that in the WWE section? No. I don't mod the TNA forum

davieboytellem
07-12-2012, 09:07 PM
I don't really post threads either, but I'm sure like most people, when something like this breaks, we go to the topic made for it and read what people have to say about it and what the latest news is. It's a hassle to go through the forum looking for this thread when we could've just clicked on the thread in the front page

Robstar
07-12-2012, 09:11 PM
Look, let me make it easy for you
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--31nMhxCLX0/TjG_UOadRRI/AAAAAAAAI9I/TIfTU5Dzr0U/s1600/Butthurt-report-form.jpg

I'm sure you have more important things to do with your day and so do I so I hope this clears things up.

davieboytellem
07-12-2012, 09:13 PM
lol I'm not even butthurt but it's cool...how you got to be a moderator is beyond me

K2Jelly
07-12-2012, 09:15 PM
Well, look at it this way. Since this is a thread where minor topics can be discussed, it'll be a lot easier to know where the discussion of a minor topic, such as the rumors surrounding Kharma's supposed firing, can take place. If it lasts long, great. You'll still get to have a discussion. If it doesn't kick off or no one gives a shit after three days, then it probably didn't deserve it's own thread to begin with, eh? ;)

Robstar
07-12-2012, 09:21 PM
lol I'm not even butthurt but it's cool...how you got to be a moderator is beyond me

How you got your definition of what a moderator should be is beyond even my powers of reckoning but anyway....

Asherdelampyr
07-12-2012, 10:15 PM
lol I'm not even butthurt but it's cool...how you got to be a moderator is beyond me

I just want to make sure I am clear on what the fuck I just read.

Kharma had rumors cirulating that she may have been canned, a thread was made about said rumors.

Rumors turned out to be false, so thread was added to larger thread about ultimately small things.

you start bitching that her not actually getting close to fired is not a "small thing"

so, if I understand this correctly, you see a quick mistake made by a web designer as a "Big thing"?
You may want to distance yourself from the internet from now on.

scribbler_jones
07-12-2012, 11:09 PM
Hi all, I'm sure some of you saw the articles about Kharma and WWE... if not, please take a look at them. Honestly, I don't know what to think. I want to think it's just kayfabe and all, not a real release, but it's hard to pass anything by WWE. If this is for real... well, what do you guys think about all this?

masakaritko
07-12-2012, 11:16 PM
Robstar will be in here shortly to merge this with the "all the small things" thread or close it since this is a short term topic that is already being discussed.

scribbler_jones
07-12-2012, 11:18 PM
Oops... wasn't aware that people were already discussing it. Just got in from work and saw the articles. I'm always late to the party :(

masakaritko
07-12-2012, 11:26 PM
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?21848-WWE-Happenings-*All-The-Small-Things* you will find what you are looking for here

scribbler_jones
07-12-2012, 11:30 PM
Thanks, on my way there

Great One
07-13-2012, 12:17 AM
If Kharma is released we riot

Robstar
07-13-2012, 12:21 AM
Fact remains that it still might be true, but the bottom line is if she's released, it's a doomed topic and simply ceases to be a WWE topic.

Robstar
07-13-2012, 12:23 AM
You are forgiven ;)

The Brown One
07-13-2012, 11:31 PM
I got this from WZ:
WWE.com has announced on their front page that Superstars Dolph Ziggler and Zack Ryder, along with announcer Justin Roberts were involved in a car accident outside of the San Diego Convention Center today. The trio were in a limousine leaving from their apperance at Comic-Con: International when their vehicle slammed on its breaks and was immediately rear-ended. According to WWE Superstar Zack Ryder, "Ziggler went flying. Justin went flying. The car hit us full speed; we all got thrown from our seats. My neck is a little sore. That’s it. We’re all OK though."

Thankfully none of them seem to be injured, or worse. It just seems like an unfortunate accident that happened very close to the MITB PPV. Thoughts?

S.E. Zero
07-13-2012, 11:51 PM
Glad they're ok

Smark callaway
07-14-2012, 12:11 AM
That's the last thing the company needs right now. It's good that there were no serious injuries though.

WPack911
07-14-2012, 12:21 AM
Very happy that nobody got hurt, Ziggler has a real shot to win MitB and it would suck to see what happen to Barrett happen to him.

ELNIOJR
07-14-2012, 06:55 AM
From The News Board:


The official WWE (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news?Item%5Btags%5D=WWE).com website reports Dolph Ziggler (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news?Item%5Btags%5D=Dolph%20Ziggler), Zack Ryder (http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news?Item%5Btags%5D=Zack%20Ryder) and ring announcer Justin Roberts were involved in a car accident just outside of downtown San Diego, California on Friday afternoon shortly after 5:00 p.m. PT. The three performers were traveling in a limousine, which was rear-ended as they were transported from Comic-Con: International at the San Diego Convention Center.

All three individuals were reportedly evaluated by paramedics shortly after the accident and no serious injuries have been reported at this time


Ryder said: "Ziggler went flying. Justin went flying. The car hit us full speed; we all got thrown from our seats. My neck is a little sore. That’s it. We’re all OK though."

Glad they're fine but, I'm sure Ziggler SOLD IT pretty well :D


https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396825_422284781147504_1146057937_n.jpg

Kenny Kaos
07-14-2012, 07:06 AM
Regardless of who we like/don't like as performers, thank goodness nobody was seriously hurt

Destruction
07-14-2012, 07:49 AM
Regardless of who we like/don't like as performers, thank goodness nobody was seriously hurt

I agree with this, although I like all 3. Extremely glad no one was hurt

Surprised to see WWE acknowledge heels and faces travelling together though

The Brown One
07-14-2012, 08:35 AM
Already made a thread on this a few hours ago. Not sure where the hell it disappeared to though.

ELNIOJR
07-14-2012, 08:41 AM
Already made a thread on this a few hours ago. Not sure where the hell it disappeared to though.

That thread got FIRED!
I posted this 'cause 'I saw none' yo :)

The Brown One
07-14-2012, 08:50 AM
That thread got FIRED!
I posted this 'cause 'I saw none' yo :)

Damn it! I wonder why it got closed though.
OT: I'm glad no one got seriously injured, especially since we're a few days away from MITB, and possibly Ziggler winning the WHC MITB.

ELNIOJR
07-14-2012, 08:56 AM
Damn it! I wonder why it got closed though.
OT: I'm glad no one got seriously injured, especially since we're a few days away from MITB, and possibly Ziggler winning the WHC MITB.

Damn right. Maybe he's just practicing some bumps :D

lostgerg
07-14-2012, 09:29 AM
you reckon it was the ninjas that kidnapped Samoa Joe few years back???

CobraNightviper
07-14-2012, 12:50 PM
I rember seeing the thread that The Brown One put on here I guess it got futcher endevored.

wrestlingfan66513
07-14-2012, 01:46 PM
Damn it! I wonder why it got closed though.
OT: I'm glad no one got seriously injured, especially since we're a few days away from MITB, and possibly Ziggler winning the WHC MITB.

Things on this site are disappearing, a few of mine and bears blogs went missing from the archives a while ago.

Darkside Ron Garvin
07-14-2012, 02:07 PM
I say this is a work. There is NO WAY that Ziggler and Ryder were traveling together! That would break KayFabe and that would never happen!

I'm glad the guys are okay and I'm really glad Josh Mathews has friends. I relly like that kid.

scribbler_jones
07-14-2012, 02:15 PM
If Kharma is released we riot

YES! YES! YES! *shines up the pitchfork and loads up the shotgun*

Concerning the accident, I'm very glad that the guys made it out all right. It would be a tremendous shame if one or all of these gentlemen were hurt - or worse - right before a big-time PPV. It's gonna suck for whoever was responsible though...

And on an unrelated slant, it seems that The Miz is having a bit of a shit fit right now... did anyone read the reports about his tweets? I did get a laugh out of his hashtag - #IBeatBitchesUp - that's Be A Star material if there ever was any... Thoughts on that?

Robstar
07-14-2012, 02:50 PM
Damn it! I wonder why it got closed though.
OT: I'm glad no one got seriously injured, especially since we're a few days away from MITB, and possibly Ziggler winning the WHC MITB.


It's here - http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?21848-WWE-Happenings-*All-The-Small-Things*/page7 - where this one is going

The Sneakiness
07-16-2012, 01:50 AM
Little bit of pointless trivia...

CM Punk's current title reign is now the longest since John Cena won the belt at Unforgiven 2006.

Robstar
07-18-2012, 03:15 PM
Angry about Kharma

Asherdelampyr
07-18-2012, 03:20 PM
Angry about Kharma
Me too. such a fucking waste. She can do so much better (me)
are we talking about her wedding?

K2Jelly
07-18-2012, 03:22 PM
How in the hell does creative not have anything for her? C'mon!

Asherdelampyr
07-18-2012, 03:24 PM
How in the hell does creative not have anything for her? C'mon!


WWE is operated by ex Soap Opera writers, you even see a hot, Dominant BBW black chick on a Soap Opera?

HeelTurn
07-18-2012, 03:25 PM
How in the hell does creative not have anything for her? C'mon!

The Bellas left, and Kelly possibly left. So instead of facing Beth or Nattie they decided once the "Barbies" had gone they had no reason for her.

This is the same company that put the World title on Khali remember.

Robstar
07-18-2012, 03:27 PM
How in the hell does creative not have anything for her? C'mon!

It's clear creative only have room on the schedule for one diva storyline and even that has been intertwined with the men. Give me Kharma over that crud anyday.


Me too. such a fucking waste. She can do so much better (me)
are we talking about her wedding?

Lol Asher. I was thinking me. I'd love to roll around with Kia.

In other news - do you think that WWE is deliberately keeping Undertaker and Lesnar away from each other? For now anyway?

Asherdelampyr
07-18-2012, 03:28 PM
It's clear creative only have room on the schedule for one diva storyline and even that has been intertwined with the men. Give me Kharma over that crud anyday.



Lol Asher. I was thinking me. I'd love to roll around with Kia.

In other news - do you think that WWE is deliberately keeping Undertaker and Lesnar away from each other? For now anyway?

Probably, don't want to give that match away too soon.

Bodom
07-18-2012, 03:40 PM
Did anyone ever consider that she may have asked for a release? And her request wasn't directly related to "creative reportedly not knowing what to do with her"?

I mean, she did have miscarriage.

There's that word again too. Reportedly. Meaning not necessarily true. But I'm sure y'all know that.

Robstar
07-18-2012, 03:48 PM
I just mentioned it was disappointing. And what I said about the divas remains true, Kharma or not. But anyway, if we can't speculate, what are any of us doing in here?

Bodom
07-18-2012, 03:55 PM
Unless my eyeglasses are failing me, I saw "Angry about Kharma". Which doesn't translate the same as being disappointed.

And I'm not saying nobody can't speculate. I just hope that the news being reported as "possibly not true" isn't being viewed as the truth.

Robstar
07-18-2012, 04:01 PM
Unless my eyeglasses are failing me, I saw "Angry about Kharma". Which doesn't translate the same as being disappointed.

And I'm not saying nobody can't speculate. I just hope that the news being reported as "possibly not true" isn't being viewed as the truth.

You wear glasses? I have no wiggle room between angry and disappointed? I don't know weather to be angry about that or disappointed....or both ;)

Bodom
07-18-2012, 04:02 PM
You wear glasses? I have no wiggle room between angry and disappointed? I don't know weather to be angry about that or disappointed....or both ;)

Is this the part where I be a dick and go *whether ?

K2Jelly
07-18-2012, 04:03 PM
Is there part where I be a dick and go *whether ?

You beat me to it. Dammit. X(

Bodom
07-18-2012, 04:04 PM
You beat me to it. Dammit. X(

Bwahahahahah!!!!!!!

Robstar
07-18-2012, 04:06 PM
I must have posted this in the wrong spot...

https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/7/13/IFUyihbP_0ymw9oEnK11JQ2.png

Robstar
07-18-2012, 04:07 PM
Is this the part where I be a dick and go *whether ?

I'm sure you'll be that without my help Bods ;)

Robstar
07-21-2012, 10:10 PM
Is it just me or does Kenny Doane seem to do nothing besides bitch?

akbar
07-21-2012, 10:25 PM
Is it just me or does Kenny Doane seem to do nothing besides bitch?
A lot of them bitch but for some weird reason this site covers him :confused:

Robstar
07-22-2012, 05:19 PM
Kelly Kelly returning?

thejman93
07-22-2012, 05:26 PM
Just read that we might be getting a full-on DX reunion (The D-O Double G, Ass Man, and X-Pac included with Shawn and Trips) to start off RAW 1000. Would be awesome if it happened.

Suhayl
07-22-2012, 05:27 PM
kelly kelly returning?

please no.

jackw9
07-23-2012, 06:15 PM
Personally mine will be that there wont be the dudley's or the hardyz and kurt as a singles wrestler

masakaritko
07-27-2012, 11:50 AM
Does anyone want to weigh in about Nash's proposed nWo reunion? And how he basically wants punk as the leader?

Asherdelampyr
07-27-2012, 11:52 AM
Does anyone want to weigh in about Nash's proposed nWo reunion? And how he basically wants punk as the leader?

it would be interesting, but how many groups is Punk going to lead? How many times are they going to try and fail to create something with the same permanence as NWO, the 4 Horsemen or DX?

masakaritko
07-27-2012, 02:15 PM
it would be interesting, but how many groups is Punk going to lead? How many times are they going to try and fail to create something with the same permanence as NWO, the 4 Horsemen or DX?
Personally, I think rehashing something old to get one guy over is a decent idea. Not rehashing the group just for the sake of doing it. Punk is already over, that much is true, but you have to keep putting someone over for them to stay relevant. Not to mention that nastalgia gets a lot of fans talking. Although I do think there is a limit to how many times you can do something before it gets super old. Something I would rather see is a rehash of the SES. This time with people who are already over, rather than punk with a crew of jobbers. I would like to one day see punk and cena team up as heels, similar to rated rko was. That's just my opinion though.

CM_SUXX_NOT
07-30-2012, 06:19 PM
Literally.

http://www.tout.com/m/enlfgc?ref=twt68bw3

beatfighter3000
07-30-2012, 06:24 PM
I saw this as well. Wow WWE will certainly be a "hot" topic tonight

Bodom
07-30-2012, 06:33 PM
I hope nobody was injured.

vikingsman18
07-30-2012, 06:34 PM
Nobody has been injured. All fans insider were evacuated, and thousands are still waiting outside. The show starts in 26 minutes......so this should be interesting lol.

K2Jelly
07-30-2012, 06:34 PM
I hope no one got hurt.

Dennis
07-30-2012, 06:38 PM
chris jericho is awesome!

THE HEARTBREAK KID
07-30-2012, 06:39 PM
Glad no one seem's too be hurt or injured..
mad, never seen anything like that happen before.. well unless it was done by Kane off course.

thedag
07-30-2012, 06:44 PM
Nobody has been injured. All fans insider were evacuated, and thousands are still waiting outside. The show starts in 26 minutes......so this should be interesting lol.

they are letting fans back in now.

No_1eddiefan
07-30-2012, 06:50 PM
That video of Jericho is amazing!

Dubs
07-30-2012, 06:55 PM
chris jericho is awesome!
I should go on Tout more often.

SESAfro
07-30-2012, 07:18 PM
The one and only cool Tout I've seen. Jericho for president.

Kenny Kaos
08-01-2012, 07:05 AM
First AW with his Kobee Bryant comment on Raw, now Albert gets racist on tout lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmRsle4O11I

Watch it quick before WWE delete it

Wade Barrett 1979
08-01-2012, 07:09 AM
People who tout should be put in front of a firing squad.

PSOjedi
08-01-2012, 07:17 AM
What Tensai said, is part of the storyline for his fued vs Yoshi Tatsu for the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania 29

CM_SUXX_NOT
08-01-2012, 07:20 AM
People who tout should be put in front of a firing squad.
This. The people sending the videos do so in storyline just to get on TV, and no-one even knows who they are! I mean, it's nice to have your 15 seconds of fame but no-one actually cares about anyone elses videos but their own. Bunch of 25-year-old PG mad virgins.

Cabers
08-01-2012, 07:52 AM
As bad as it is i did laugh!! Looks like the heat may be off AW!!

King Scrapper
08-01-2012, 08:10 AM
People who tout should be put in front of a firing squad.

As bad as that sounds I agree. I cringe ever time WWE plays those stupid fan touts. They look like a bunch of no life idiots who are sipping the WWE teet.

Slivon
08-01-2012, 09:32 AM
What Tensai said, is part of the storyline for his fued vs Yoshi Tatsu for the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania 29
No it is not.

VanHooliganX
08-01-2012, 09:39 AM
People who tout should be put in front of a firing squad.

Yup. I think I can just stand this Twitter BS but a video version of it?

No thank you!

Playboy Stevie V
08-01-2012, 10:04 AM
*sigh*

I guess if I was employed by the WWE I wouldnt take it upon myself to say or do anything without running it by them first in this uber sensitive society.

First AW, now Tensai.

I'm wondering if TNA will make Sting change his insane icon persona "Joker" and make up and go back to the crow since the Colorado theater shootings also.

tchocky360
08-01-2012, 10:34 AM
*sigh*

I guess if I was employed by the WWE I wouldnt take it upon myself to say or do anything without running it by them first in this uber sensitive society.

First AW, now Tensai.

I'm wondering if TNA will make Sting change his insane icon persona "Joker" and make up and go back to the crow since the Colorado theater shootings also.

The reason why society is "uber sensitive" is about the Tensai comment is because racism is still a big deal, just because it's better now than 50 years ago doesn't make it gone, or mean that we should allow casual racism a foothold in our society.

These things are all to do with context, I'm sure Tensai and Sakamoto planned that Tout amongst themselves, obviously Sakamoto was okay with it.
That joke would have been fine (if still not that funny...) in private amongst two friends who knew it wasn't serious, but not in a public broadcast, representing the WWE, which is what happened.
Lawler made a similar joke during his match about "Sum Ting Wong" which was just as bad..

PC gets bandied about and misused like it's something bad. It's just like any other made up ideal, like democracy or equality, sometimes it gets misused or misunderstood, but they make all of our lives better.
PC just means I'm not going to discriminate against people who are different to me, because of how they are different to me.

Now I'm Irish, if my friends want to call me a dumb mick, in that context I'm prob ok with it.

If a stranger says it, or a company calls Irish people, potato eating micks... we've a problem. And that's what PC should be.

Joker Sting will stay, as he should, it'd be like removing all Joker from Batman history in case someone looked up to him again, that's an entirely different thing from PC though.
That IS being over sensitive and going after the wrong target, like how easy it seems mentally ill people in the US can still get their hands on guns... but that's a whole different thing.

I hate over sensitive, but the Tensai and AW stuff is sensible, not sensitive.

CricketTragic
08-01-2012, 10:38 AM
What Tensai said, is part of the storyline for his fued vs Yoshi Tatsu for the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania 29

Joke of the day

CricketTragic
08-01-2012, 10:53 AM
As bad as that sounds I agree. I cringe ever time WWE plays those stupid fan touts. They look like a bunch of no life idiots who are sipping the WWE teet.

I dont know I quite like the WWE tout its great we should have it here in EWN

Bolded for sarcasm because no one would ever say it with any sincerity

Playboy Stevie V
08-01-2012, 10:54 AM
The reason why society is "uber sensitive" is about the Tensai comment is because racism is still a big deal, just because it's better now than 50 years ago doesn't make it gone, or mean that we should allow casual racism a foothold in our society.

These things are all to do with context, I'm sure Tensai and Sakamoto planned that Tout amongst themselves, obviously Sakamoto was okay with it.
That joke would have been fine (if still not that funny...) in private amongst two friends who knew it wasn't serious, but not in a public broadcast, representing the WWE, which is what happened.
Lawler made a similar joke during his match about "Sum Ting Wong" which was just as bad..

PC gets bandied about and misused like it's something bad. It's just like any other made up ideal, like democracy or equality, sometimes it gets misused or misunderstood, but they make all of our lives better.
PC just means I'm not going to discriminate against people who are different to me, because of how they are different to me.

Now I'm Irish, if my friends want to call me a dumb mick, in that context I'm prob ok with it.

If a stranger says it, or a company calls Irish people, potato eating micks... we've a problem. And that's what PC should be.

Joker Sting will stay, as he should, it'd be like removing all Joker from Batman history in case someone looked up to him again, that's an entirely different thing from PC though.
That IS being over sensitive and going after the wrong target, like how easy it seems mentally ill people in the US can still get their hands on guns... but that's a whole different thing.

I hate over sensitive, but the Tensai and AW stuff is sensible, not sensitive.

Believe it or not I do have enough common sense to know the difference of an actor playing a role or blatant racism. It's a joke. I remember a while back someone giving Sheamus a potato on air. I've seen the same type of jokes on reruns of the George Lopez show which is pg.

I guess some people just can't tell the difference between acting and real life. SMH.

CricketTragic
08-01-2012, 11:00 AM
Believe it or not I do have enough common sense to know the difference of an actor playing a role or blatant racism. It's a joke. I remember a while back someone giving Sheamus a potato on air. I've seen the same type of jokes on reruns of the George Lopez show which is pg.

I guess some people just can't tell the difference between acting and real life. SMH.

Whats SMH?

In regards to your comment I have to agree and the reason why people are so uber sensitive as much as I hate saying the word uber is because they are being bubblewrapped by society so whenever they hear anything can could be deemed as rascist or what have you they freak the hell out.

RELAX

Playboy Stevie V
08-01-2012, 11:09 AM
Whats SMH?

In regards to your comment I have to agree and the reason why people are so uber sensitive as much as I hate saying the word uber is because they are being bubblewrapped by society so whenever they hear anything can could be deemed as rascist or what have you they freak the hell out.

RELAXLOL I'm relaxed brother. Nobody busted a caps lock. Anyways SMH means "shaking my head"

CricketTragic
08-01-2012, 11:16 AM
LOL I'm relaxed brother. Nobody busted a caps lock. Anyways SMH means "shaking my head"

Ahhh ok then and I was not telling you to relax man sorry I meant all the uber-sensitive types

Dennis
08-01-2012, 11:24 AM
IMO this is worse than aw. he actually had to post this after saying it as if he thought it was funny.. it's an awful joke and while again I don't think he should really be punished, he should stop being that ignorant

CricketTragic
08-01-2012, 11:28 AM
IMO this is worse than aw. he actually had to post this after saying it as if he thought it was funny.. it's an awful joke and while again I don't think he should really be punished, he should stop being that ignorant

I agree it was worse then AW's comment because AW said nothing wrong.

Although this is the first time I can relate to Tensai as a character

Dennis
08-01-2012, 11:50 AM
I agree it was worse then AW's comment because AW said nothing wrong.

Although this is the first time I can relate to Tensai as a character
please elaborate haha :)

tchocky360
08-01-2012, 12:23 PM
Believe it or not I do have enough common sense to know the difference of an actor playing a role or blatant racism. It's a joke. I remember a while back someone giving Sheamus a potato on air. I've seen the same type of jokes on reruns of the George Lopez show which is pg.

I guess some people just can't tell the difference between acting and real life. SMH.

The problem isn't that it was in character or not, but that it was said at all.
Lazy stereotype jokes are a problem in WWE, and it's the same thing as making fun for someone based on colour of skin, gender or sexuality.

In character or not, these guys are speaking in front of kids and some adults, that might not appreciate the fact that it is a work, that these aren't things to say or believe.

Tout and Twitter are being aimed and pushed onto their younger audience and this is why WWE have to be so careful with what they broadcast.
Ignore whether you are ok with it, and think more if you want your kids being fed racist jokes by a TV show you thought was safe for them to watch.

You can appreciate it's a work, but like you said, maybe not everyone else can.

Playboy Stevie V
08-01-2012, 12:42 PM
The problem isn't that it was in character or not, but that it was said at all.
Lazy stereotype jokes are a problem in WWE, and it's the same thing as making fun for someone based on colour of skin, gender or sexuality.

In character or not, these guys are speaking in front of kids and some adults, that might not appreciate the fact that it is a work, that these aren't things to say or believe.

Tout and Twitter are being aimed and pushed onto their you

nger audience and this is why WWE have to be so careful with what they broadcast.
Ignore whether you are ok with it, and think more if you want your kids being fed racist jokes by a TV show you thought was safe for them to watch.

You can appreciate it's a work, but like you said, maybe not everyone else can.


If you want a totally safe thing for kids to watch I would stick to letting them watch rated G shows, which WWE is not. Its pg by definition "parental guidance is advised"

Instead of people using the "think of the children" excuse, maybe parents should take responsibility on the content which is acceptable to them that their kids should watch and stop blaming the programs or internet. Media shouldn't be raising kids, parents should be teaching them morals.

I guess we just have a different take on sheltering youngsters. The world isnt perfect and i wouldn't have a problem with them seeing what Tensai said and have a discussion on the appropriateness of the content.

Mr. Ziggles
08-01-2012, 02:49 PM
But calling Sheamus "The Great White" is PERFECTLY acceptable.

And I know it wasn't in WWE but can you remember in TNA when The Pope called Matt Morgan a Honkey, and that wasn't considered a big deal.

Everyone know its impossible for a 'racist comment' to be aimed at a white person.
(technically what I just said is wrong as i said white instead of Caucasian, but it doesn't matter)


Equal rights my arse.

Anyway i could go on about this all day, but I'm going to stop before i get carried away, as double standards really piss me off.

King Scrapper
08-01-2012, 02:50 PM
If you want a totally safe thing for kids to watch I would stick to letting them watch rated G shows, which WWE is not. Its pg by definition "parental guidance is advised"

Instead of people using the "think of the children" excuse, maybe parents should take responsibility on the content which is acceptable to them that their kids should watch and stop blaming the programs or internet. Media shouldn't be raising kids, parents should be teaching them morals.

I guess we just have a different take on sheltering youngsters. The world isnt perfect and i wouldn't have a problem with them seeing what Tensai said and have a discussion on the appropriateness of the content.

I feel as if this comment won the war. I agree. Yea it was a bit unsensitive what Tensai did but yes, it was funny. yes it was something that we would have seen on live TV back in 2006 and earlier. i understand it's a PG show but parents need to be parental and guide there children in the right way of understanding whats going on and telling them right from wrong. Youre right. Vince Mcmahon is not the father of the WWE's 5 million child viewers. I dont condone racism but comedic stereotyping is a stable in all entertainment. Whether your white black, chines, or arabic. Comedians do it, television shows do it. it's life. As long as no one is being insulted then it's typically ok. It's not like Lawler is saying hey look at the pale mick coming out. Or when Truth comes out Lawler says the rapping and dancing nigga man. I believe the way they handle the characters is appropriate. SOmetimes they could handle certain things better but for the most part they do a good job. A kid could go on Xbox Live and hear significantly more crude and hurtful things.

CMRyder
08-01-2012, 02:53 PM
As bad as that sounds I agree. I cringe ever time WWE plays those stupid fan touts. They look like a bunch of no life idiots who are sipping the WWE teet.


Personally, fan interaction is always a nice thing. What makes them look like a no life idiot? Because they make a 20 second video on a subject in wrestling? Whats the difference between that and posting on this fourm? Come on, man.

tchocky360
08-01-2012, 03:58 PM
If you want a totally safe thing for kids to watch I would stick to letting them watch rated G shows, which WWE is not. Its pg by definition "parental guidance is advised"

Instead of people using the "think of the children" excuse, maybe parents should take responsibility on the content which is acceptable to them that their kids should watch and stop blaming the programs or internet. Media shouldn't be raising kids, parents should be teaching them morals.

I guess we just have a different take on sheltering youngsters. The world isnt perfect and i wouldn't have a problem with them seeing what Tensai said and have a discussion on the appropriateness of the content.

It isn't a simple think of the children matter. I mentioned kids as one aspect since that's obviously where Tout and the WWE target mot of their audience.

For me it's also a matter of respecting others.

Sum Ting Wong and the Tensai joke aren't much better than saying towelhead and laughing about that, or chinny chong chong and squinting your eyes, and laughing at how clever that is either...

It mostly comes down to do you want racist language in your wrestling product?

I know I don't, so when I see it, I'll feel uncomfortable and I'll say, maybe that shouldn't be in there.

Haruko Haruhara
08-01-2012, 03:59 PM
To be honest. Too many people get too butthurt over dumbstuff. It's not like he was saying, "I HATE THE DAMN JAPANESE PEOPLE AND THEIR CULTURE AND EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THEM. BURN THEM ALL!"

Robstar
08-01-2012, 04:01 PM
IrelandsPatriot will soon appear on Tout

tchocky360
08-01-2012, 04:09 PM
I feel as if this comment won the war. I agree. Yea it was a bit unsensitive what Tensai did but yes, it was funny. yes it was something that we would have seen on live TV back in 2006 and earlier. i understand it's a PG show but parents need to be parental and guide there children in the right way of understanding whats going on and telling them right from wrong. Youre right. Vince Mcmahon is not the father of the WWE's 5 million child viewers. I dont condone racism but comedic stereotyping is a stable in all entertainment. Whether your white black, chines, or arabic. Comedians do it, television shows do it. it's life. As long as no one is being insulted then it's typically ok. It's not like Lawler is saying hey look at the pale mick coming out. Or when Truth comes out Lawler says the rapping and dancing nigga man. I believe the way they handle the characters is appropriate. SOmetimes they could handle certain things better but for the most part they do a good job. A kid could go on Xbox Live and hear significantly more crude and hurtful things.

Not a war, a discussion. Two sides trying to understand each other better is how I'd had put it.

Again to make this clear, I'm not saying kids should get their morality or be raised from WWE television. I'm pointing out that it's mostly aimed at them, because of this content is and should be adapted to suit them.

You want to go see a racist comedian, as a grown up you can do do that.
If you're a kid, your parents would probably prefer it not be in your programming.

As for "A kid could go on Xbox Live and hear significantly more crude and hurtful things"

A kid could also easily find porn if they searched on a laptop, does that mean WWE can stick in a bit of full frontal since kids have probably seen worse. Probably not.

WWE are responsible for their content only. It doesn't matter what else a kid might have seen somewhere else.

tchocky360
08-01-2012, 04:22 PM
But calling Sheamus "The Great White" is PERFECTLY acceptable.

And I know it wasn't in WWE but can you remember in TNA when The Pope called Matt Morgan a Honkey, and that wasn't considered a big deal.

Everyone know its impossible for a 'racist comment' to be aimed at a white person.
(technically what I just said is wrong as i said white instead of Caucasian, but it doesn't matter)


Equal rights my arse.

Anyway i could go on about this all day, but I'm going to stop before i get carried away, as double standards really piss me off.

I've had that chat with my mates about Sheamus and his Great White Hope based nickname. I don't like it either.

It isn't just Caucasians who can be racist that's certainly true. It works same across the board.

imswm
08-01-2012, 04:30 PM
I'm just wondering if Bloom and bud "got" that this was going out to the public--and going to be taken seriously. There is a possibility they were just goofing around, not clear it wasn't private...in which case, whomever is in charge of this Tout nuisance on the WWE end should be taking as much if not more heat, for putting it out there.

I hang out in a place that's racially very diverse, and there's stuff we can say to each other that is a lot "worse"/more "incorrect" than the content of the Tensai vid; but as others have noted, it's really all about context. So maybe these two are most guilty of not realizing you can't jokingly say ANYTHING in front of a camera anymore without someone taking exception to it.

Playboy Stevie V
08-01-2012, 06:39 PM
It isn't a simple think of the children matter. I mentioned kids as one aspect since that's obviously where Tout and the WWE target mot of their audience.

For me it's also a matter of respecting others.

Sum Ting Wong and the Tensai joke aren't much better than saying towelhead and laughing about that, or chinny chong chong and squinting your eyes, and laughing at how clever that is either...

It mostly comes down to do you want racist language in your wrestling product?

I know I don't, so when I see it, I'll feel uncomfortable and I'll say, maybe that shouldn't be in there.

It's about respecting others, as you say? So I don't know where you draw your line at "respecting" others when you're uncomfortable with some racial humor, but Tensai beating the shit out of his Asian side kick after he loses a match doesn't? Or any wrestler beating the shit out of another with chairs.

So in your world its okay for kids to watch men beating the hell out of each other, but making a joke that Asians can't drive good, is not? Or both? Because if its both, dude you shouldn't watch wrestling cause you will hate it.

Since kids are so influenced about what is said, but there not with regards to hitting each other? I Taught my kids not to hit each other with kendo sticks, but they're screwed if a one of these entertainers say something racial, cause they are not "respecting" each other?

It's both acting, so your point is odd to me. Violence is ok as long as you don't use a racial stereo types?

It's wrestling and the only reason Vince is being so anal, is because of his wifes campaign.

CricketTragic
08-01-2012, 07:20 PM
please elaborate haha :)

Because so far its just this supposed rough guy beating the shit out of everyone and sooking if he loses, even though this is not the right way to go about it at least hes shown personality and its the first time I have gone thats Tensai ok, normally its here we go again Tensai

Robstar
08-01-2012, 08:00 PM
Undertaker is not dead!

Bodom
08-01-2012, 08:05 PM
Undertaker is not dead!

He's the Undead.

K2Jelly
08-01-2012, 10:21 PM
Looks like McCool and Taker are expecting their first child.

Congrats to the married couple. :D

Robstar
08-01-2012, 10:29 PM
I like how the report in the news section says he only has a son. What planet are they on?

Datoneirishguy
08-02-2012, 08:45 PM
I read that report that WWE was impressed with Billy Gunn at Raw 1000 and wanted to give him at least one more match. Coming from one of the biggest Billy Gunn marks out there I was so pumped to hear. I literly jumped out of my chair and mark out so hard when I saw him in that truck and was really impressed with his physical state considering he's nearly 50.

So after I read the report on the website I started thinking of a scenario for him to have that last match and who he should put over. As much as I loved the NAO and would be happy to see a reunion I would much rather see "Mr Ass" go one on one with none other then Dolph Ziggler 'no shock there'. Billy Gunn was one of the most underused superstars back in the day and IMO deserved to hold that World title once. As a mid card face he always got a massive pop. He was very good in the ring aswel and quick on his feet and agile for a big man. I know he wouldn't be quite as nimble but thats why having him face dolph would help.

The way I would set it out is have Dolph still have his briefcase and be claiming how he is basically the next World champion. Queue "I'm a ass man" I know unlikly for him to use this gimmick but imagine how over he would be. The kids would think its hilarious because of the word ass to be fair. Its why I loved him he was different and I loved the ass man gimmick. Have Billy say something along the line of how he isnt sure dolph has what it takes and if he wants to prove himself he needs to overcome a guy who came so close to winning the title of HHH, a former king of the ring, etc and over the next few weeks show past matches of billy gunn to get him more over and let the kids know who he is.

And then of course in the match have Dolph win with a super fameasser or something. This is my longshot idea which i'd love to see but I really want to get your thoughts. Thanks if you actually bothered reading :)

URATOOL
08-02-2012, 08:55 PM
We see these reports all the time. About many veterans. I take them with a very large pinch of salt.

I have a few questions about the report though.
If he was that impressive then why only match? If they think he can only handle one match then they can't be that impressed!
Why didn't they know he was so "impressive"? It's not like he's been hiding away for the last few years?
What exactly did he do on the show that was that impressive?

WoodenBulldozer
08-02-2012, 09:00 PM
I agree and disagree with you. I agree that a feud with Ziggler would be awesome because they are both so similar in appearance and attitude. Instead of a one week feud though, I would like to see it stretched out over a course of a few weeks where Gunn starts by interrupting Ziggler during a promo, then maybe interferes in his weekly matches, mocks him backstage etc. Good concept though.

Datoneirishguy
08-02-2012, 09:04 PM
They enjoyed his interactions with Shawn Michaels during the show and they were impressed with the physical state he was in. You have to remember that Billy is in his late 40's like 48 49

Datoneirishguy
08-02-2012, 09:05 PM
Yeah thats what I was trying to get at but i didnt want to ramble on and have a really long thread :)

Dennis
08-02-2012, 09:07 PM
I think billy could be interesting to bring back every once in awhile as like a plot mover. though IMO he should stay out of actual in ring competition and leave that to the younger superstars.

Datoneirishguy
08-02-2012, 09:09 PM
I think billy could be interesting to bring back every once in awhile as like a plot mover. though IMO he should stay out of actual in ring competition and leave that to the younger superstars.

Thats why I feel it should be once off so he can put one of the younger superstars over.

Darkside Ron Garvin
08-02-2012, 09:39 PM
So after I read the report on the website I started thinking of a scenario for him to have that last match and who he should put over. As much as I loved the NAO and would be happy to see a reunion I would much rather see "Mr Ass" go one on one with none other then Dolph Ziggler 'no shock there'. Billy Gunn was one of the most underused superstars back in the day and IMO deserved to hold that World title once. As a mid card face he always got a massive pop. He was very good in the ring aswel and quick on his feet and agile for a big man. I know he wouldn't be quite as nimble but thats why having him face dolph would help.


Here's some food for thought... A list of the top 10 wrestlers win/loss percentage on RAW.



RANK

WRESTLER

WINS

LOSSES

DRAWS/NC

DIFFERENCE

MATCHES



1

John Cena

274

88

29

+186

391



2

Shawn Michael

148

66

22

+82

236



3

The Undertaker

125

50

25

+75

200



4

The Rock

128

73

24

+55

225



5

Billy Gunn

127

79

16

+48

222



6

Triple H

213

166

47

+47

426



7

Randy Orton

186

139

22

+47

348(347)



8

Steve Austin

77

33

24

+44

134



9

Chris Benoit

97

56

8

+41

161



10

Rob Van Dam

99

61

6

+38

166




My question is, how can a guy who had more matches, more wins, and a higher win/loss percentage than the likes of RVD, Benoit, and even Triple H still be considered "underused"? Remember, this is as a SINGLES competitor, not his tag teaming (Smoking Gunns, New Age Outlaws). He had a GREAT run in the E but to say that he was "underused" is a stretch. My opinion.

Dennis
08-02-2012, 10:32 PM
Here's some food for thought... A list of the top 10 wrestlers win/loss percentage on RAW.



RANK
WRESTLER
WINS
LOSSES
DRAWS/NC
DIFFERENCE
MATCHES


1
John Cena
274
88
29
+186
391


2
Shawn Michael
148
66
22
+82
236


3
The Undertaker
125
50
25
+75
200


4
The Rock
128
73
24
+55
225


5
Billy Gunn
127
79
16
+48
222


6
Triple H
213
166
47
+47
426


7
Randy Orton
186
139
22
+47
348(347)


8
Steve Austin
77
33
24
+44
134


9
Chris Benoit
97
56
8
+41
161


10
Rob Van Dam
99
61
6
+38
166



My question is, how can a guy who had more matches, more wins, and a higher win/loss percentage than the likes of RVD, Benoit, and even Triple H still be considered "underused"? Remember, this is as a SINGLES competitor, not his tag teaming (Smoking Gunns, New Age Outlaws). He had a GREAT run in the E but to say that he was "underused" is a stretch. My opinion.
nice point.. may I ask where you got that stat from?

Cabers
08-02-2012, 11:36 PM
Billy Gunn vs Dolph Ziggler just book it!!

Darkside Ron Garvin
08-02-2012, 11:41 PM
nice point.. may I ask where you got that stat from?

Go to google and search "Wrestling Data" and you will find a vast world of wrestling facts. These are strictly by the numbers but it helps you get a better grasp of things when the numbers are right in your face. It doesn't take into account the angles, or stories, but there are ways to get to the shows and cards to see "quality" of products.

I would post the site I use directly, but I'm not sure if posting outside websites is acceptable as I know it is frowned upon.

Robstar
08-03-2012, 01:37 AM
Pfffft, I don't think there's a problem with posting links to other sites, really. As long as you're nice about it and aren't simply attempting to poach users, I fail to see where the problem may lie.

Darkside Ron Garvin
08-03-2012, 01:41 AM
Pfffft, I don't think there's a problem with posting links to other sites, really. As long as you're nice about it and aren't simply attempting to poach users, I fail to see where the problem may lie.

Well the rules (yes, some of us responsible users actually read them) state that we can post them when quoting "official sources" but I am not sure if this qualifies under this terminology so I wasn't going to place it without knowing for sure... I figure better to be safe than stupid, right?

BTW, Nice meat lmao

Wade Barrett 1979
08-03-2012, 04:18 AM
I obviously need to find a new hobby to pursue, I've never jumped out of my seat watching wrestling.

Darkside Ron Garvin
08-03-2012, 04:39 AM
I obviously need to find a new hobby to pursue, I've never jumped out of my seat watching wrestling.

Bet you will when BK makes it to the main shows :D

Wade Barrett 1979
08-03-2012, 04:40 AM
Bet you will when BK makes it to the main shows :D

Oh Hell Yeah! ;)

Darkside Ron Garvin
08-03-2012, 04:42 AM
Oh Hell Yeah! ;)

That's why we "never say never" in the world of professional wrestling lol

Wade Barrett 1979
08-03-2012, 04:46 AM
That's why we "never say never" in the world of professional wrestling lol

Well I never!

:D

Samuel L. Jackson
08-03-2012, 06:22 AM
... He'll be the next "Legend" to wrestle Heath Slater...
You know it.

Deadman_87
08-03-2012, 10:44 AM
[QUOTE=Darkside Ron Garvin;594600]Here's some food for thought... A list of the top 10 wrestlers win/loss percentage on RAW.



RANK
WRESTLER
WINS
LOSSES
DRAWS/NC
DIFFERENCE
MATCHES


1
John Cena
274
88
29
+186
391


2
Shawn Michael
148
66
22
+82
236


3
The Undertaker
125
50
25
+75
200


4
The Rock
128
73
24
+55
225


5
Billy Gunn
127
79
16
+48
222


6
Triple H
213
166
47
+47
426


7
Randy Orton
186
139
22
+47
348(347)


8
Steve Austin
77
33
24
+44
134


9
Chris Benoit
97
56
8
+41
161


10
Rob Van Dam
99
61
6
+38
166




you say hes not been underused.... yet he is the only person on this list not to hold a major title...

Xpacfan
08-03-2012, 02:40 PM
A while ago, I remember someone on here mentioning that they could see some where in the future, the WWE coming on as a Saturday morning cartoon with all CGI characters. Well, it looks like they're one step closer too that, lol:

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/7982/a-possible-wwe-saturday-morning-show-details-inside

Mr. Ziggles
08-03-2012, 02:50 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4OL-V-NPFI