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Robstar
10-31-2010, 09:04 PM
With the return of Tough Enough, it's got me thinking who they will use for trainers. Here are my most likely picks;

*William Regal - just signed on for another 42 months
*Finlay - what he is already doing
*Jamie Noble - see Finlay
*Jillian Hall - if they do Divas
*Val Venis - can't see them doing much with him on the active roster (much the same as Chris Masters)

Since they'd never give the job of hosting to an Englishman(the powers that be think American audiences won't take to this), then Regal's out, though he'd be well suited, IMO. Matt Striker is the most likely. I'd like to see Arn Anderson hosting personally - he's a very underrated talker.

Bodom
10-31-2010, 09:22 PM
These seem like the most likely picks. They may even bring in Billy Kidman and Norman Smiley from FCW

Mr. McMahon
10-31-2010, 09:46 PM
William Regal
Finlay
Al Snow

Edge (yes, I've seen him appear on a show similar to tough enough, he is very motivational)
Beth Phoenix

jhorton1215
10-31-2010, 09:55 PM
I agree with Regal, Finley, Noble, and Venis... Al Snow is employed by TNA at the moment, so it's unlikely for him. Another potential option could be Chris Jericho, if he wants to cut back on his in-ring schedule.

Rich Cranium
10-31-2010, 10:14 PM
As I stated on another thread, bring back Bill DeMott.

Tommy Thunder
10-31-2010, 10:26 PM
Finlay is pretty much odds on to be on it, Noble probably too, and Billy Kidman is another good shout. With Regal signing a new contract, there is a good chance we'll see him there too. I hope Val Venis will go on the main roster. He has great mic skills, and is a great wrestler, and he can still go in the ring IMO. Alas, it's likely that he's been brought in for Tough Enough. Jillian will be the divas trainer, as they said that she would be taken off the main roster for a while.

"The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."
Ezekiel 25:17.

johnadah
10-31-2010, 11:45 PM
I know he's busy as a road agent with the company right now, but it's hard to imagine a better trainer than Dean Malenko. At least for the technical side, that is. Obviously, he is not one of the best talkers there has ever been, but his ring skills are hard to match.

Other than Malenko, I think that Triple H is clearly one of the most valuable members of the company as a trainer, though I don't expect to see him in that role as I expect to see him in the ring for at least another 3 years.

Since Jillian Hall has already been placed in a training role, I'm sure she'll be involved. I do agree, though, that Bill DeMott ought to be brought back. He was so agile for a man his size and could be a valuable aide for bigger trainees.

SilverGhost
10-31-2010, 11:50 PM
Malenko, Finaly, Val, Regal, Kidman, Jillian Hall and DeMott.

Sounds really good! Special trainers would be Jericho and HHH. I'm sold already.

Belzova
10-31-2010, 11:53 PM
Billy Kidman-

Finlay-

William Regal-

The Undertaker-

Triple H-

Val Venis-

Edge-

Christian-

These are my choices.

Robstar
11-01-2010, 12:00 AM
I was thinking Christian but didn't want to put it out there as it would effectively spell the end of any future pushes for him. He'd be a trainer from then on, Vince would make sure of it.
Jericho would be great. Vince doesn't like Undertaker appearing out of character so I don't think that he's likely.

The more I think of it though, the more likely it seems that with Regal they would have no need for DeMott - what's he doing these days anyway? If WWE played it smart, they would utilise former stars more here such as Kevin Nash, HBK, Malenko, even Scott Hall or Jake Roberts if they could clean up long enough

Belzova
11-01-2010, 12:05 AM
Oh what about GoldDust? He would be great since we all know he will never get a serious push anyways.

Robstar
11-01-2010, 12:08 AM
Oh what about GoldDust? He would be great since we all know he will never get a serious push anyways.

Don't toy with me Belzova! Unlike NXT however, there wouldn't be much point in him maintaining character for a show like Tough Enough. And anyway, he's the man who's going to unify the WWE/WHC!!!


YOU'RE EITHER GOLDUST......OR YOU'RE THE NEXUS!

SilverGhost
11-01-2010, 12:26 AM
Don't toy with me Belzova! Unlike NXT however, there wouldn't be much point in him maintaining character for a show like Tough Enough. And anyway, he's the man who's going to unify the WWE/WHC!!!


YOU'RE EITHER GOLDUST......OR YOU'RE THE NEXUS!

Rob go the the corner man!

Goldust for Tough Enough!

Also read my sig >.>

tupelojoe81
11-01-2010, 12:17 PM
Val Venis

Regal

Kevin Nash

Jillian Hall

Finlay

Unless Goldust or any other "active" guys want to end their TV career, then they shouldn't do it.

Belzova
11-01-2010, 12:19 PM
Val Venis

Regal

Kevin Nash

Jillian Hall

Finlay

Unless Goldust or any other "active" guys want to end their TV career, then they shouldn't do it.

Great list.

xAzureSkye
11-01-2010, 12:50 PM
i think it will probably by Dean Malenko, Val Venis, Finlay & Jillian/Ivory.. although they might bring in Norman Smiley and possibly Billy Kidman instead of two of the picks i've already made!

Ruggy
11-01-2010, 04:08 PM
As I stated on another thread, bring back Bill DeMott.

I agree with Big Bill, he was a very under-rated and under-used talent, great movement for a big guy.

What about Lance Storm??

Robstar
11-01-2010, 04:13 PM
I agree with Big Bill, he was a very under-rated and under-used talent, great movement for a big guy.

What about Lance Storm??

Storm is too opinionated for Vince's liking. He cannot be controlled and thats not the WWE way.

The Hipster
11-01-2010, 09:25 PM
I loved Screamin' Norman!

Bodom
11-01-2010, 09:52 PM
I agree with Big Bill, he was a very under-rated and under-used talent, great movement for a big guy.

What about Lance Storm??

I don't see him leaving his Academy for this

Kashdinero
11-02-2010, 04:56 AM
All the names mentioned above are awesome choices. Having a wrestler with a background in training wrestlers is a must for this show.

Let's hope they don't go with the Miz. What with his Reality tv & tough enough experience.

Robstar
11-02-2010, 05:31 AM
No I don't think they will. Miz is too hot a commodity in arenas right now. The question is will they give it to the obvious choice, Matt Striker, or will they hold the failure of NXT against him? You know that that sounds like Vince.

Kashdinero
11-02-2010, 06:38 AM
If I had it my way it would be William Regal & Finlay.

Any details about the format been leaked yet?

Bodom
11-02-2010, 07:53 AM
If I had it my way it would be William Regal & Finlay.

Any details about the format been leaked yet?

There's been no new information.

All we know is that it's coming back

Kashdinero
11-02-2010, 08:39 AM
There's been no new information.

All we know is that it's coming back

Hope it's the reality house format and not the live show style that puder won

Bodom
11-02-2010, 08:40 AM
Hope it's the reality house format and not the live show style that puder won

It'll for sure be reality based, but no specifics

Robstar
11-02-2010, 01:18 PM
WWE have allegedly contacted a company that specialises in reality tv, I'm betting they will likely follow a more Ultimate Fighter approach

Ruggy
11-02-2010, 01:37 PM
To be honest, I don't think there is alot Nash could teach anyone with regards to in-ring work....

Would love to see an older head in there i.e Jake The Snake or Ricky Steamboat (if he recovers fully).

Robstar
11-02-2010, 01:42 PM
To be honest, I don't think there is alot Nash could teach anyone with regards to in-ring work....

Would love to see an older head in there i.e Jake The Snake or Ricky Steamboat (if he recovers fully).

Perhaps not, but ring psychology or cuttin a promo - equally as important as the other stuff, IMO. Steamboats back working FCW but I think Jake is a good choice

Bodom
11-02-2010, 01:44 PM
If Kevin Nash does Tough Enough, I fear we'll get more of this


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9l2WT_xK6w

johnadah
11-02-2010, 01:50 PM
To be honest, I don't think there is alot Nash could teach anyone with regards to in-ring work....

Would love to see an older head in there i.e Jake The Snake or Ricky Steamboat (if he recovers fully).

I agree about 50% about Nash. He's never been very impressive in the ring, but he does have mic skills to offer. Mic skills are very hard to teach though. So I don't see much point in having a guy there that would only be useful for that. I think the best way to learn mic skills is by watching guys like Jericho, both as a heel and a face, and studying how they've been able to hype up or manipulate a crowd.

I also agree about 50% with the idea of using Dustin Runnels. The Goldust character is getting a decent push right now, so it would be a mistake to remove him from TV, but the skill and experience Dustin has would undoubtedly make him an incredible trainer.

I don't see Lance Storm leaving his academy either.

Ruggy
11-02-2010, 01:54 PM
Nash could teach them side-walk slams, big boots and elbows in the corner, those are three of the most difficult moves to do........

Ron Simmons could add something to the training team.

Rassling_Fan
11-02-2010, 01:56 PM
I hope they do use Dean Malenko as a trainer for the show. Would love to see him back on TV even if it is for this.

johnadah
11-02-2010, 03:00 PM
I hope they do use Dean Malenko as a trainer for the show. Would love to see him back on TV even if it is for this.

I agree ccompletely. Malenko would be my top choice if I had any say in the matter.

TheDevilsAdvocate
11-02-2010, 03:02 PM
I agree ccompletely. Malenko would be my top choice if I had any say in the matter.

I third this all the way.

Robstar
11-02-2010, 03:32 PM
There should of course be a few legends in there. Mike Rotundo perhaps. Malenko for sure. Keep Hayes the hell away from there, he should be fired anyway.
As for promo/mic work - you can have people like Nash & Jericho get in there and help them out but ultimately, as we've seen, you either got it or you don't. It would be a great level of elimination instead of stupid obstacle courses and stuff like NXT and the early seasons of The Ultimate Fighter. Oh and no stupid talking topics with no preparation - even the best promo guys are given the time to come up with something instaed of being thrown to the wolves without warning to talk about something as stupid as MOUSTACHE, ffs.

Bodom
11-02-2010, 03:38 PM
Always remember to make a Win a Win.

Robstar
11-02-2010, 03:42 PM
Always remember to make a Win a Win.

Random? Oh wait that was from NXT, I think? What was his name again? The first guy to go

Bodom
11-02-2010, 03:44 PM
Random? Oh wait that was from NXT, I think? What was his name again? The first guy to go

Titus O Neil

Robstar
11-02-2010, 03:45 PM
Poor Titus.....I felt bad for him. I got what he was saying and thought he made a classy exit even with Striker champing at the bit to get the mic back from him

Kashdinero
11-02-2010, 03:56 PM
Striker needs to stay away from this one!

The best tough enough was the first, although number three had the best winner's.

Bam
11-02-2010, 04:00 PM
Maybe the new Tough Enough should be like Fear Factor. The ultimate test of speed, strength, risky-ness, and the ability to tackle anything that comes your way. But that will be as a 'chance' game for those who get put into the elimination circle, while those who are on top of the tough enough team will resume their training, and improve increasingly, while the winner of the fear factor like concept goes on to return to the rest of them an tries to improve over time until' the next set of eliminations.

johnadah
11-02-2010, 04:56 PM
Oh and no stupid talking topics with no preparation - even the best promo guys are given the time to come up with something instaed of being thrown to the wolves without warning to talk about something as stupid as MOUSTACHE, ffs.

Oh, my friend, there is nothing the least bit stupid about a mustache. I personally prefer to sport the pirate 'stache.

The point of the random talking points, however, is to test their creativity and make sure that they are capable of getting anything thrown at them over. If you can get a crowd into a promo about mustaches (who doesn't love a good 'stache?) then you should be able to get them into whatever storyline you're involved in as well.

Robstar
11-02-2010, 05:21 PM
I see what you're saying and so IMO, they should never have even been let in the front door. I would have thought there was an interview process where skills were established - before you put them on tv, let alone having a new show concept riding on them. It was just poor, poor direction from WWE. Badly conceived, badly executed and badly handled.

IMO, Tough Enough should be about bringing them up in these areas - before elevating them to the main roster and effectively killing any future they might have had. What the hell is FCW for if not this? Contestants need to show what they can bring to the table what applies to the business - what if Kaval or Wade Barrett had been eliminated early for failing to capture the flag or push Hornswoggle around in a wheely bin? It would have been a huge injustice because they were more suitable than anyone. Also, consider the depth and experience of someone like Barrett to Eli Cottonwood - it's like shooting fish in a fucking barrell! There's no real contest.

IrkenInvader
11-02-2010, 05:29 PM
Judging by the NXT pros, the tough enough trainers will be Zack Ryder, the Dudebusters, Kelly Kelly, Joe Hennig, and one of the spirit squad guys.

johnadah
11-02-2010, 05:44 PM
I don't think Kaval was the best choice from season two. His mic skills are very weak. I think Curt's kid would have been a better choice. Mike is the total package, in my opinion. As for season one, Barrett probably was the best choice. He's very good, although his finisher is crap. But that's the only negative thing I can really say about him. I think Justin Gabriel is a very close second though. Of course, if he hadn't been eliminate so soon, Bryan Danielson would have been the clear cut choice (and was WWE's original choice anyway).

As for the purpose of FCW as a training facility, you have to keep in mind that WWE does not acknowledge FCW on their programming. Alex Riley was the FCW Champ when he started on NXT. But that was obviously not mentioned. NXT attempted to portray them as potential wrestling talents, rather than existing talents that were already under contract with WWE. After all, the point was that the winner won a contract with WWE. It wouldn't make sense to admit they already had one.