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IPEEINTHESHOWER
10-27-2010, 08:03 PM
Hello SHOWERHEADS and NON-SHOWERHEADS A.K.A SPRINKLERS. Randy "TOO Much Baby Oil" is the point of this thread and allow me to give my infinite wisdom on why Mr. TOO Much Baby Oil should be a mid carder at best. First I hear people complain all the time about Cena's 5 moves of Doom but what about Randys 5 or 6 moves of doom as well. He does the Body Stomps, Powerslam, Uppercut, Backbreaker, and Knee Drop in every match he has If he doesn't do those particular moves he always ends up doing 5 moves per match anyway. Now on to the really good stuff. While on the Raw brand, Orton was accused of harassing fellow WWE employees Amy Weber and Rochelle Loewen. Loewen, who has called Orton "an animal," claimed that he vandalized her possessions and subjected her to harassment. Now the next thing Im going to bring up is especially for Scottland a fellow member of this site since he idolizes Mr TOO Much Baby Oil. Here it is. Randy had a tattoo on his left arm which read "USMC" for United States Marine Corps but covered it up after receiving a bad conduct discharge from the service. He was sent home after serving thirty-eight days in military prison at Camp Pendleton in California. So as you can see I bring up valid points and I didn't even address his cry baby tendency's when things don't go his way in the ring. U MAD????

I look forward to your complaints and ignorance on this topic.

infinite wisdom
"Remember to always be yourself. Unless you suck."

For those that have inquiring minds allow me to help you out. After graduating from Hazelwood in 1998, Orton enlisted with the United States Marine Corps. There, he was dishonorably discharged a year later, after going AWOL (Absent Without Official Leave) on two separate occasions and disobeying an order from a commanding officer. Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, Private First Class Orton was tried and convicted under a special court-martial and was put into a military prison for thirty-eight days.

Robstar
10-27-2010, 08:49 PM
Who shat in your shoes, IPITS? ;)

My my, you learn something new everyday. I didn't know that about him, the marine corp stuff. I don't mind Randy so much, he's certainly not my favourite but he's ok. What I can't fathom is people buying into his whole "psycho" persona - I think it's very badly acted and I just can't buy it. At least with someone like Stone Cold you pretty much knew he was, in fact, a hard nosed redneck. I agree with the comparison to Cena - not just move amount; people coveniently overlook Randy's own miraculous no damage comebacks in his matches and crucify Cena for the same thing.

One thing - you notice since getting the full sleeve tattoos, WWE seems to have no interest in putting him in movies anymore?

Mr Perfect
10-27-2010, 08:51 PM
I agree with everything you said. I've never been a huge Orton fan, it drives me insane that his entrance lasts longer than most of his matches. I never knew about his past with the military so that was knew to me(But its a very common thing). But obviously Vince doesn't care about the past seeing as MVP is still on the roster and he had a great past lol.

Also 80% of the WWE roster complains and cries in the ring when things dont go their way.. Undertaker is the worst, but I guess Orton has more power since he's gotten wrestlers fired(Mr Kennedy)



One thing - you notice since getting the full sleeve tattoos, WWE seems to have no interest in putting him in movies anymore?

Yeah Vince hates tattoo's look at MVP again lol.. Maybe orton has no desire to work in movies? or maybe they don't want to give him time off to film.

Robstar
10-27-2010, 09:14 PM
I agree with everything you said. I've never been a huge Orton fan, it drives me insane that his entrance lasts longer than most of his matches. I never knew about his past with the military so that was knew to me(But its a very common thing). But obviously Vince doesn't care about the past seeing as MVP is still on the roster and he had a great past lol.

Also 80% of the WWE roster complains and cries in the ring when things dont go their way.. Undertaker is the worst, but I guess Orton has more power since he's gotten wrestlers fired(Mr Kennedy)



Yeah Vince hates tattoo's look at MVP again lol.. Maybe orton has no desire to work in movies? or maybe they don't want to give him time off to film.

He's a shitty actor anyway. As for MVP, I thought the WWE should have played up the "I turned my life around" angle much more.

tantrum
10-27-2010, 09:17 PM
Who cares?

Robstar
10-27-2010, 09:22 PM
Who cares?

Really? Why bother commenting?

Bodom
10-27-2010, 09:40 PM
Really? Why bother commenting?

Why bother acknowledging it?

chaos75
10-27-2010, 09:49 PM
Let's just say this:
Randy Orton- Good Wrestler, Crap Person

SilverGhost
10-27-2010, 09:55 PM
Let's just say this:
Randy Orton- Good Wrestler, Crap Person

I'll drink to that -toasts and drinks cider-

SilverGhost
10-27-2010, 09:56 PM
Why bother acknowledging it?

Why bother acknowledge his acknowledgment? ;) (just playing around)

chaos75
10-27-2010, 10:00 PM
Why bother acknowledge his acknowledgment? ;) (just playing around)

Why bother playing around? This is some serious shit! (scuse my language)

Robstar
10-27-2010, 10:12 PM
Why bother acknowledge his acknowledgment? ;) (just playing around)

You're all a bunch of TNA hating marks here!....um, sorry just channeling that tool....whathisface?

SilverGhost
10-27-2010, 10:12 PM
Why bother playing around? This is some serious shit! (scuse my language)

Lol touche! I would answer but I am lazy ATM.

Anyways IPITS has a point. And Orton wears TOO MUCH BABY OIL!

Robstar
10-27-2010, 10:17 PM
I wonder if he makes he rookies lube him up?

SilverGhost
10-27-2010, 10:20 PM
I wonder if he makes he rookies lube him up?

Interesting thought Rob.

Bodom
10-27-2010, 10:20 PM
I wonder if he makes he rookies lube him up?

Wow. I really wish I hadn't read that

SilverGhost
10-27-2010, 10:25 PM
Wow. I really wish I hadn't read that

It just went back to that thread when Rob showed "his alternate way of thinking" xD

Robstar
10-27-2010, 10:52 PM
If by alternate you mean I like drugs and porn then yes, I am alternative. But I'm not fielding any proposals thanks SG lol

SilverGhost
10-27-2010, 10:57 PM
If by alternate you mean I like drugs and porn then yes, I am alternative. But I'm not fielding any proposals thanks SG lol

Not what I meant. You forgot to read between the lines man. xD You got it last time xD

Rich Cranium
10-27-2010, 11:29 PM
Let's get back on topic. Orton is a good wrestler. Overacting, yes, but I don't think tattoos should be a reason to be a hater.

SilverGhost
10-27-2010, 11:45 PM
Let's get back on topic. Orton is a good wrestler. Overacting, yes, but I don't think tattoos should be a reason to be a hater.

Not to attack anything on Orton but he is getting to be a John Cena since he has his moves of death.

TheMadThinker
10-28-2010, 12:26 AM
I wonder if he makes he rookies lube him up?

Maybe he learned the importance of oiling up from the 38 days he spent jail.

jethro
10-28-2010, 01:09 AM
"Its time to oil up" - Hakan

I'm confused is this thread about overuse oil or Orton's wrestling ability? Sometime I'm worry for Orton's arm whenever he pound the wrestling canvas and ready for RKO,who knows he'll injured it again.

Scottland
10-28-2010, 02:41 AM
Well...this is a interesting & pointless thread. What's with the rant? Seriously? It's pretty pointless. Orton's discharge from the Marines is nothing new let alone it's no secret by any means. I'm actually surprised more people don't know about it. As for Orton's harrassment & such? It's all hear say basically he said, she said thing. If it was anything serious he would have been filed for harrassment charges. Why do you bring up a report that was like years ago? I mean...who cares, it's the past. You know how much scandaling & harrassment there is in the world of wrestling? A shit load & most of it you don't hear about. FYI...everything you mentioned is old information. As for your thoughts on his moveset? It's your opinion. It's laughable & a little ill-advised but really is anyone suppose to care? Let alone that you hate Orton as well? I mean seriously...I don't.

Also, as for Orton's "crying rants"? Let me just tell you that The Undertaker, Triple H, John Cena, Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels & so forth all have a history of doing the same thing. The wrestling business is highly political. It's part of the business, deal with it.

P.S. I don't idolize Orton but I do like the guy as a wrestler. So, what's the big damn deal? If anyone idolizes someone it's you with John Cena.

el gabo
10-28-2010, 06:39 AM
Well...this is a interesting & pointless thread. What's with the rant? Seriously? It's pretty pointless. Orton's discharge from the Marines is nothing new let alone it's no secret by any means. I'm actually surprised more people don't know about it. As for Orton's harrassment & such? It's all hear say basically he said, she said thing. If it was anything serious he would have been filed for harrassment charges. Why do you bring up a report that was like years ago? I mean...who cares, it's the past. You know how much scandaling & harrassment there is in the world of wrestling? A shit load & most of it you don't hear about. FYI...everything you mentioned is old information. As for your thoughts on his moveset? It's your opinion. It's laughable & a little ill-advised but really is anyone suppose to care? Let alone that you hate Orton as well? I mean seriously...I don't.

Also, as for Orton's "crying rants"? Let me just tell you that The Undertaker, Triple H, John Cena, Hulk Hogan, Shawn Michaels & so forth all have a history of doing the same thing. The wrestling business is highly political. It's part of the business, deal with it.

P.S. I don't idolize Orton but I do like the guy as a wrestler. So, what's the big damn deal? If anyone idolizes someone it's you with John Cena.

Naw you dawg gawn got me pissed!!!! Maybe Cena, Hogan, Taker and others have power backstage but, at least I never saw any of them call another wreslter stupid (for real) on TV like he did to Kofi. He's also b*tched on TV when others have botched so that's just being an ass. What you do is pull the guy aside backstage or something like that, but not go whine to Vince.

His tweener character was cool in the beginning but, it's getting stale.

SilverGhost
10-28-2010, 10:54 AM
I see where this is going. Orton going to Vince for botches in his matches. I think Orton is the sole botcher. And we all know what happened to Ken(Anderson). I say that kind of power backstage isn't good for a MAN like Orton.

Like suddenly the world figured out wrestlers botch....

DarkSide
10-28-2010, 11:05 AM
I see where this is going. Orton going to Vince for botches in his matches. I think Orton is the sole botcher. And we all know what happened to Ken(Anderson). I say that kind of power backstage isn't good for a MAN like Orton.

Like suddenly the world figured out wrestlers botch....

Exactly - I still think it is interesting that some people think he DOESN'T have that pull backstage.

BOT - I could never figure why Orton, with all that oil, doesn't just belly-slide to the ring during his entrance. That would be the coolest entrance since Shockmaster...

Belzova
10-28-2010, 11:15 AM
Maybe all of that oil he wears is why he rarely does moves an just stomps them like a cockroach. They would just slip from his grasp or a move will end up being botched.

SilverGhost
10-28-2010, 11:29 AM
Maybe all of that oil he wears is why he rarely does moves an just stomps them like a cockroach. They would just slip from his grasp or a move will end up being botched.

Or maybe its a tactical plan! To actually live up to his nickname and be a slippery assh*le!

SgtGohan
10-28-2010, 11:32 AM
Not to attack anything on Orton but he is getting to be a John Cena since he has his moves of death.

orton is the new cena

IPEEINTHESHOWER
10-28-2010, 11:38 AM
Or maybe its a tactical plan! To actually live up to his nickname and be a slippery assh*le!

Well done silverGost, well done indeed. Thanks for the laugh.

As for Scottland, I brought up Mr. TOO Much Baby Oil's past because you know what they say history repeats itself. FYI-I always write my post well-advised never ill-advised. U MAD???

infinite wisdom
you can by cheap baby oil at walmart

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TheDevilsAdvocate
10-28-2010, 11:51 AM
I liked Randy Orton more during his early post-break -up Evolution, and Rated RKO days. The one thing I learned is that Randy Orton is always impressive (To me at least) when he is put into a tag team match. The only team he truly failed with was Legacy. But as a singles competitor I entirely agree with you IPITS. He is a midcarder at best. Hell... John Morrison is supposed to be mid card or upper-midcard an he performs better than Randy Orton an almost all of the main eventers. It is just his mic skills that need improving.

SilverGhost
10-28-2010, 12:00 PM
orton is the new cena

Basically. A whiny one too. xD

CobraNightviper
10-28-2010, 12:38 PM
Didn't Mick foley mention that?(about his discharge from the marines)on a episode of raw when they were feuding on raw around the time Orton spit in Foley's face and he just walked away I think it was 2003 or 2004 I think.

cato79
10-28-2010, 12:56 PM
We all know that this business in made of cycles... The Rock left WWE after a few movies and dedicate to that... Cena took his place in wrestling and now he will also (hopefully soon) leave wrestling to move into Hollywood. Now Orton seems to be the guy taking over the "Face of the company" role... So, if you look at it this way, Orton will be the next "Cena"

For those who talk so much about the "5 move set of doom"... LETS GET REAL...!!! that's wrestling... A wrestler MUST get those moves in order to be identified by them.. Think of the great Superstars, and you'll see that you will not be able to remember more than 5 moves each... THAT IS THE POINT...!!!

The amount of damage caused by those moves is highly relative, how much damage does "People's elbow", "The pedigree", "Hogan's Leg drop" caused...?? Its all about the theatricals of the movement... RKO is one of the few moves that makes crowds jump from their seats... This is a FACT, if you don't believe it, I invite you to review the last PPV's and check it out.

Scottland
10-28-2010, 01:11 PM
We all know that this business in made of cycles... The Rock left WWE after a few movies and dedicate to that... Cena took his place in wrestling and now he will also (hopefully soon) leave wrestling to move into Hollywood. Now Orton seems to be the guy taking over the "Face of the company" role... So, if you look at it this way, Orton will be the next "Cena"

For those who talk so much about the "5 move set of doom"... LETS GET REAL...!!! that's wrestling... A wrestler MUST get those moves in order to be identified by them.. Think of the great Superstars, and you'll see that you will not be able to remember more than 5 moves each... THAT IS THE POINT...!!!

The amount of damage caused by those moves is highly relative, how much damage does "People's elbow", "The pedigree", "Hogan's Leg drop" caused...?? Its all about the theatricals of the movement... RKO is one of the few moves that makes crowds jump from their seats... This is a FACT, if you don't believe it, I invite you to review the last PPV's and check it out.

Well said...

Scottland
10-28-2010, 01:23 PM
Naw you dawg gawn got me pissed!!!! Maybe Cena, Hogan, Taker and others have power backstage but, at least I never saw any of them call another wreslter stupid (for real) on TV like he did to Kofi. He's also b*tched on TV when others have botched so that's just being an ass. What you do is pull the guy aside backstage or something like that, but not go whine to Vince.

His tweener character was cool in the beginning but, it's getting stale.

How is his tweener character getting stale? He's the same character when he was a heel, now though he just doesn't act like a coward instead he goes for the attack. He also gets cheered like mad for the crowd. I'm sorry dude but that's really a stupid comment. As for his incident with Kofi? I'll be honest with you...I found it funny when he called Kofi stupid & let's be honest, Kofi is a bit of a sloppy wrestler at times. Also, you are wrong about other guys not calling other wrestlers stupid on TV. The Undertaker called Chris Masters stupid on TV during a tag match while back when Masters didn't sell a move. Taker said "Hey stupid, sell the damn move". Shawn Michaels went on small rants (basically, yelling explict words) when something is messed up. The most recent incident was during RAW when HBK & HHH where out in the ring & John Cena was suppose to come out but there ended up being a delay & Michaels went blastic on screen. I could sit here & tell a shit load of incidents of what wrestlers do to get there way & yes, all of the top dogs run to Vince.

IPEEINTHESHOWER
10-28-2010, 01:38 PM
So I know this post wont stay up for long but Scottland really, really, really, after reading your post on Mr.TOO Much Bably Oil I have came to the conclusion that you have a man crush on him. The next time I speak to Randy I will see if he has an opening for you to either be his fluffer or masseuse, just don't run out of http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31011jSYJCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg he doesnt like that one bit. U MAD???

Scottland
10-28-2010, 01:44 PM
So I know this post wont stay up for long but Scottland really, really, really, after reading your post on Mr.TOO Much Bably Oil I have came to the conclusion that you have a man crush on him. The next time I speak to Randy I will see if he has an opening for you to either be his fluffer or masseuse, just don't run out of http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31011jSYJCL._SL500_AA300_.jpg he doesnt like that one bit. U MAD???

Lol...that's absurd. I think you need to let the smoke clear from that dope you smoke because it's making you delusional man.

IPEEINTHESHOWER
10-28-2010, 01:50 PM
lol...that's absurd. I think you need to let the smoke clear from that dope you smoke because it's making you delusional man.

muuuuuuuhahahahahahhahaahhahha

SilverGhost
10-28-2010, 05:39 PM
Lets just agree that was mentioned here

Randy Orton: Good wrestler, Crap person

Robstar
10-28-2010, 06:11 PM
We all know that this business in made of cycles... The Rock left WWE after a few movies and dedicate to that... Cena took his place in wrestling and now he will also (hopefully soon) leave wrestling to move into Hollywood. Now Orton seems to be the guy taking over the "Face of the company" role... So, if you look at it this way, Orton will be the next "Cena"

For those who talk so much about the "5 move set of doom"... LETS GET REAL...!!! that's wrestling... A wrestler MUST get those moves in order to be identified by them.. Think of the great Superstars, and you'll see that you will not be able to remember more than 5 moves each... THAT IS THE POINT...!!!

The amount of damage caused by those moves is highly relative, how much damage does "People's elbow", "The pedigree", "Hogan's Leg drop" caused...?? Its all about the theatricals of the movement... RKO is one of the few moves that makes crowds jump from their seats... This is a FACT, if you don't believe it, I invite you to review the last PPV's and check it out.

Cena has stated several times that he will never leave wrestling for hollywood and has been super critical of The Rock for doing so.
However I am in agreeance with your further point about wrestlers moves. Also what I find ridiculous is that once a person becomes associated with a move, noone else can perform it. Anywhere. Ever. *smh*

SilverGhost
10-29-2010, 01:49 AM
Cena has stated several times that he will never leave wrestling for hollywood and has been super critical of The Rock for doing so.
However I am in agreeance with your further point about wrestlers moves. Also what I find ridiculous is that once a person becomes associated with a move, noone else can perform it. Anywhere. Ever. *smh*

Justin Credible uses the Tombstone right? Big tall guys use the chokeslam or boots? WWE can destroy a moveset...

TheDevilsAdvocate
10-29-2010, 06:01 AM
Justin Credible uses the Tombstone right? Big tall guys use the chokeslam or boots? WWE can destroy a moveset...

Santino for example. He looks like he could have become a great tactical wrestler w/ comedian stand-up routines, but instead his Finisher was changed to a pressure point pinch called the Cobra, and he has a long list of common Diva moves.


Side-Note: I liked his in-ring back an forth bickering with Chris Jericho when Jericho was trying to figure out who in the hell he was.

SilverGhost
10-29-2010, 02:33 PM
Santino for example. He looks like he could have become a great tactical wrestler w/ comedian stand-up routines, but instead his Finisher was changed to a pressure point pinch called the Cobra, and he has a long list of common Diva moves.


Side-Note: I liked his in-ring back an forth bickering with Chris Jericho when Jericho was trying to figure out who in the hell he was.

But who would use the Cobra in an Indy show?

Robstar
10-29-2010, 02:43 PM
But who would use the Cobra in an Indy show?

See, this is half the problem. Let the indy's be the indy's and the big global corporations be ....whatever it is they are. The two will never meet again, the WWE is a different beast, even TNA is and the only place you will find the style of wrestling that appeals so much to true fans will remain in the indy's. Sorry, it's just a fact and one I'm sure you're probably already aware of.

SilverGhost
10-29-2010, 02:50 PM
See, this is half the problem. Let the indy's be the indy's and the big global corporations be ....whatever it is they are. The two will never meet again, the WWE is a different beast, even TNA is and the only place you will find the style of wrestling that appeals so much to true fans will remain in the indy's. Sorry, it's just a fact and one I'm sure you're probably already aware of.

I know that. WWE is more focused on storylines and less about wrestling. Thats why its crappy but for some reason the storyline picks up the slack. TNA NOW, not back then, is on its way to be WWE or WCW. If somehow they combined storylines of WWE and the past wrestling action of TNA then certainly the fan base will be pouring the company with enough money that the employees and wrestlers wouldn't have issues. But this is a different point...

I guess indy shows doesn't have that strict "order" that wrestlers should have their moves of doom to completely take out and get the win on the opponent.