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Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 02:41 PM
I have decided to create a number of threads about the darker side of football!

I fancy myself a bit of a journalistic architect, so I've decided that I'm going to be writing a few things about the beautiful game, we call football.

I've decided to kick off with the disgraceful behaviour that was conducted across Italian football, during the last decade.
How the Italian's disregard for good sportsman like conduct (which you can see pretty much during most of their games, or diving contests if you will) nearly permanently destroyed the good name of football across the globe.

I'm also going to look at the fact that now, no matter how many World Cups they've won or however many they may win in the future and no matter how well their club sides do and no matter how many domestic trophies they win, Italian football shall forever be sullied by the disgrace of the cheating that is endemic in the Italian game.

So I'll be posting regular reports and stories etc on how these disgraceful events unfolded and how they affected the good name of football forever!

I'll also be looking at various cases of the 'deniers' who believe Italian football is anything more than it is: A disgrace, prolifegated by cheats, money takers and hooligans who care not for the game of football.

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 02:43 PM
I like it chief.

The bolded post > Serie A

Y2Jryder
01-21-2012, 02:43 PM
thread is already a win

Automatic
01-21-2012, 02:43 PM
Well carry on then.
Although I find Catenaccio a marvelous tactic.

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 02:49 PM
2006 Italian football scandalThe 2006 Italian football scandal (Italian:Calciopoli or Moggiopoli , sometimes referred to asCalciocaos) involved Italy's top professional football leagues, Serie A and Serie B. The scandal was uncovered in May 2006 by Italian police, implicating league champions Juventus, and other major teams including Milan, Fiorentina, Lazio and Reggina when a number of telephone interceptions showed a thick network of relations between team managers and referee organisations. Juventus were the champions of Serie A at the time. The teams have been accused of rigging games by selecting favourable referees.

VanHooliganX
01-21-2012, 02:52 PM
Sport is a competition.

It gives us unbelievable moments.

Buying your wins is a disgrace. The ultimate insult to your sport.

Fenerbache S.K (SP?) and the Italian teams that cheated are no longer sports teams. They're dirt. Anything won legitimately by them from previous legends now are void of any credibility. They sold out.

They're a disgrace to the sport.

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 02:54 PM
The scandal first came to light as a consequence of investigations of Naples prosecutors on the Italian football agency GEA World. Transcripts of recorded telephone conversations published in Italian newspapers suggested that during the 2004-2005 season, Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi had conversations with several officials of Italian football to influence referee appointment. The nameCalciopoli is a pun on Tangentopi, [rough English translation:Bribesville], a corruption-based attitude starting in the early 1980s and ending with the Mani Pulite investigation in the early '90s. Another very common name for Calciopoli is Moggiopoli after the name of Luciano Moggi. Also Calciogate, a pun on Watergate, is used. "Calcio" means football in Italian.

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 02:55 PM
Sport is a competition.

It gives us unbelievable moments.

Buying your wins is a disgrace. The ultimate insult to your sport.

Fenerbache S.K (SP?) and the Italian teams that cheated are no longer sports teams. They're dirt. Anything won legitimately by them from previous legends now are void of any credibility. They sold out.

They're a disgrace to the sport.

Spot on Van. Couldn't have put it better myself!

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 03:01 PM
Since the trial, some further controversy has emerged. This is due to perceived bias in favour of Inter who were the main beneficiary from the 2006 Serie A scandal; they were awarded as champions as the outcome although they only finished 3rd and they have also brought in top players; Patrik Vieira (now retired) and Zlatan Inrahimovic) now at Milan) from Juventus since the club's relegation.Telecom Italia interception scandal and Inter's roleIn September 2006 Italian football was shaken again by a new investigation. The head of the security department of Telecom Italia (Italy's biggest fixed network operator company) was arrested for having organised a trade of interceptions to public personalities' private calls. Inter was involved in the process from the beginning when Carlo Buora, Chief Operating Officer of Telecom Italia and vice-president of Inter, being the boss of Tavaroli, was accused of being involved. During questioning, Tavaroli admitted that the president of Inter (Massimo Moratti) was one of the customers of this trade, having requested interceptions of many football personalities among referees, footballers and officers.
Former Inter striker Christian Vieri has suggested the Calciopoli scandal was sparked by Nerazzurri president Massimo Moratti. Vieri is currently suing Inter and telecommunications company Telecom Italia for illegal wire tapping.
Firenzeviola.it has reported that the wire tapping plan between Moratti and Telecom Italia was to eliminate teams in Serie A so that Inter could pave the way for success. It claims Inter players were made to sign a document to cover up any existence of the plan to take down other clubs. The allegation is that Vieri's phone was tapped up to ensure he never spoke of Inter's Calciopoli plans.
In press interviews, Vieri went so far as wondering why not all the relevant calls that he received from team managers went out during the investigation claiming that other teams, including Inter, should have been punished too.
The Italian Football Federation (now under the lead of Giancarlo Abete, a new Pontius Pilatus for the Juventus' supporters) started an enquiry into these allegations. It is unlikely that Inter will be sanctioned since Inter's alleged conduct dates back to 2002 and in Italy, under the Sporting Justice Code of FIGC the statute of limitations runs out after two seasons.

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 03:02 PM
Sport is a competition.

It gives us unbelievable moments.

Buying your wins is a disgrace. The ultimate insult to your sport.

Fenerbache S.K (SP?) and the Italian teams that cheated are no longer sports teams. They're dirt. Anything won legitimately by them from previous legends now are void of any credibility. They sold out.

They're a disgrace to the sport.

This, only this, nothing else but this!

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 03:04 PM
This, only this, nothing else but this!

He's spot on!

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 03:06 PM
He's spot on!

Damn straight chief.

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 03:19 PM
Taken from Wiki:

The false account in Italy known as Doping Amministrativo, which means directors of the football clubs use cross-trading (or player exchange) with inflated prices in order to enhance the financial gains to avoid re-capitalization. But it is because the company's income actually not increased (the figure did increase), it look like using enhancement drug.

In October 2007, A.S. Roma (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.S._Roma) was fined €40,000 for administrative offences related to the sale of young players but acquitted the false accounting related to the possible wrong entry day of the gain from selling Nakata.[22] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-21) Lazio acquitted.

In December 2007, 7 Serie A clubs (some clubs by-then as Serie B) were fined for false accounting by inflating the prices of players they bought and sold, in order to pass financial tests in 2003-04, 2004-05 season.[23] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-22) and 2005-06 season. In June 2010Palermo (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Citt%C3%A0_di_Palermo) president and several staff of Ternana (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ternana_Calcio) were also fined and banned from football.
The following punishments were given to individuals:
AC Milan[24] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-first3-23)

The Company: €90,000 fine.
Adriano Galliani (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriano_Galliani) (Vice-President): €60,000 fine.
Internazionale[24] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-first3-23)

The Company: €90,000 fine.
Massimo Moratti (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massimo_Moratti) (Owner) €10,000 fine.
Gabriele Oriali (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriele_Oriali) (technical director) €10,000 fine.
Mauro Gambaro (ex-CEO) €20,000 fine.
Rinaldo Ghelfi (ex-CEO and by-then Vice-President) €20,000 fine.
Sampdoria[24] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-first3-23)

The Company: €36,000 fine.
Giuseppe Marotta (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giuseppe_Marotta): €20,000 fine.
Riccardo Garrone (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riccardo_Garrone_(born_1936)): €18,000 fine.
Genoa[25] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-second-24)[26] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-25)

The Company: €400,000 fine.
Giovanni Blondet: €15,000 fine.
Enrico Preziosi (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Preziosi): Banned for 4 months and €15,000 fine.
Reggina[25] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-second-24)

The Company: € 400,000 fine.
Pasquale Foti (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasquale_Foti): Banned for 1 month and €20,000 fine.
Udinese[25] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-second-24)

The Company: € 400,000 fine.
Franco Soldati (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco_Soldati) (President): Banned for 3 months and €30,000 fine.
Pierpaolo Marino (by-then Vice-President): €15,000 fine.
Chievo[27] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-26)[28] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-27)

The Company: € 50,000 fine.
Luca Campedelli (owner): € 40,000 fine.
Giovanni Sartori (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Sartori_(footballer)) (sports director): € 15,000 fine.
Palermo

Maurizio Zamparini (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurizio_Zamparini) (President): Banned for 6 months[29] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-28)
Rino Foschi (Sports director): Banned for 3 months
Ternana

The Company: €20,000 fine.
Luigi Agarini (President): Banned for 7 months
Luca Ferramosca (President): Banned for 6 months
Giovanni Lombardo (CEO, Italian (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_language):Amministratore Delegato): Banned for 3 months
Stefano Dominicis(CEO, Italian (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_language):Amministratore Unico): Banned for 6 months

Pumpkinhead
01-21-2012, 03:25 PM
Ah come on where's JJ whne you need him ;)

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 03:29 PM
Ah come on where's JJ whne you need him ;)

Trolling elsewhere!

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 03:34 PM
Trolling elsewhere!

Trolling in an Italian forum because it's clearly better than this one!

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 03:36 PM
Trolling in an Italian forum because it's clearly better than this one!

Truth hurts!!

Pumpkinhead
01-21-2012, 03:36 PM
Trolling in an Italian forum because it's clearly better than this one!
Does he even like wrestling??, I never saw a post from him in any of the wrestling section..

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 03:38 PM
Does he even like wrestling??, I never saw a post from him in any of the wrestling section..

I don't know what troll's like to do in their spare time :D

Other than live under a bridge :P

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 03:42 PM
Does he even like wrestling??, I never saw a post from him in any of the wrestling section..


Very, very rarely. He prefers to troll here, with his copy and paste knowledge of football!


I don't know what troll's like to do in their spare time :D

Other than live under a bridge :P

Damn straight! :D

VanHooliganX
01-21-2012, 03:50 PM
Does he even like wrestling??, I never saw a post from him in any of the wrestling section..


He has posted a few times in a TNA thread and trolled a few members there.

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 03:50 PM
He has posted a few times in a TNA thread and trolled a few members there.

Seems to be a theme here!

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 03:52 PM
He gets this:

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/12/2009/01/Troll_Of_The_Week_804.jpg

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 03:59 PM
He gets this:

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/12/2009/01/Troll_Of_The_Week_804.jpg

Ha! Nice! :D

VanHooliganX
01-21-2012, 04:01 PM
JJ IRL:


http://www.ohdearism.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/troll.jpg

He really is a troll.

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:02 PM
JJ IRL:


http://www.ohdearism.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/troll.jpg


He really is a troll.

Ha! Nice one too! :D

VanHooliganX
01-21-2012, 04:04 PM
In seriousness though. Maybe it is time we really report him with all the evidence we have to remove him. When he flares up and trolls he is unbearable to be around.

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:06 PM
In seriousness though. Maybe it is time we really report him with all the evidence we have to remove him. When he flares up and trolls he is unbearable to be around.

On the banter thread is one thing but going on to Steve's Gerrard thread to troll, that's a step too far! That's going out of his way to bait someone.

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:07 PM
On the banter thread is one thing but going on to Steve's Gerrard thread to troll, that's a step too far! That's going out of his way to bait someone.

No one trolls in a Gerrard thread and gets away with it! :mad:

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:10 PM
No one trolls in a Gerrard thread and gets away with it! :mad:

It's not even banter, it's pure trolling!

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:12 PM
It's not even banter, it's pure trolling!

Exactly chief. We have a banter/postwhore/useless opinion/trolling thread and it's no the Gerrard one! I clearly said this in the opening post and have said it many times since then.

VanHooliganX
01-21-2012, 04:13 PM
Exactly chief. We have a banter/postwhore/useless opinion/trolling thread and it's no the Gerrard one! I clearly said this in the opening post and have said it many times since then.


Well said Chef!

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:13 PM
Exactly chief. We have a banter/postwhore/useless opinion/trolling thread and it's no the Gerrard one! I clearly said this in the opening post and have said it many times since then.

Exactly! Any personal thread is the same, same with Britani thread! I don't mind post whoring, derailment or general chatter but I would baulk at trolling!

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:15 PM
Well said Chef!

I'm watching South Park as we speak! :p

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:16 PM
Exactly! Any personal thread is the same, same with Britani thread! I don't mind post whoring, derailment or general chatter but I would baulk at trolling!

Exactly chief! It's more annoying than Arsene Wenger. :p

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:17 PM
I'm watching South Park as we speak! :p

Nice one chief :D


Well said Chief!

Cheers chief!

VanHooliganX
01-21-2012, 04:21 PM
Nice one chief :D



Cheers chef!

No worries, Cook!

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:22 PM
Exactly chief! It's more annoying than Arsene Wenger. :p

Nicely done! :D

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:22 PM
No worries, Cook!

I see what you did there. I don't appreciate it.



:D

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:23 PM
Nicely done! :D

Cheers chief!

Dalglish > Wenger

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:26 PM
Cheers chief!

Dalglish > Wenger


​Oh Hell Yeah! Any day of the week! :)

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:29 PM
[/B]​Oh Hell Yeah! Any day of the week! :)

You know it broski! #InKennyWeTrust

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:33 PM
You know it broski! #InKennyWeTrust

Damn striaght!

#inkennywetrust

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:35 PM
Damn striaght!

#inkennywetrust

#TotallyChief #YouSlyDawg

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:38 PM
#TotallyChief #YouSlyDawg

#youknowit #icanbesuave

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:41 PM
#youknowit #icanbesuave

#DamnStraight #SayingSuaveIsCoolButHardToPullOff #YouTotallyPulledItOff

Wade Barrett 1979
01-21-2012, 04:48 PM
#DamnStraight #SayingSuaveIsCoolButHardToPullOff #YouTotallyPulledItOff

#cheerschief
#itaughtjamesbondeverythingheknew :D

Steve Austin
01-21-2012, 04:50 PM
#cheerschief
#itaughtjamesbondeverythingheknew :D

#Haha #IDontDoubtIt

Wade > Bond

Wade Barrett 1979
01-23-2012, 05:01 AM
Massimo De Santis (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massimo_De_Santis) was to be Italy's referee representative in the 2006 FIFA World Cup (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup), but was barred by the Italian Football Federation (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Football_Federation) after coming under investigation.[13] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-12) Italian refereeRoberto Rosetti (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roberto_Rosetti) remained untainted by the scandal, and he was one of the 21 2006 FIFA World Cup officials (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup_officials).
The eruption of the scandal has also drawn attention to many potential conflicts of interest (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conflict_of_interest) within Italian football. Adriano Galliani (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriano_Galliani), the vice president and CEO of A.C. Milan, also serves as the president ofSerie A (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serie_A).
In addition to allegations of corruption and sports fraud by owners, managers, players, referees, and league officials, "the host of Italy's most popular football show, Aldo Biscardi, has resigned amid allegations that he collaborated with Juventus general manager Luciano Moggi to boost the club's image on television".[14] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-13)
In all, magistrates in Naples (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naples) formally investigated 41 people and looked into 19 Serie A matches from the2004–05 (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004%E2%80%9305_Serie_A) season and 14 Serie A matches from the2005–06 (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005%E2%80%9306_Serie_A) season. Prosecutors in Turin examined Juventus chairman Antonio Giraudo over transfers, suspected falsified accounts, and tax evasion. Prosecutors in Parma (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parma) still are investigating national team goalkeeper Gianluigi Buffon (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gianluigi_Buffon), Enzo Maresca (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzo_Maresca),Antonio Chimenti (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Chimenti) and Mark Iuliano (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Iuliano) (retired) for suspected gambling on Serie A matches.[15] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-14)
After the first penalties were handed out, more teams are being looked at for possible links to the scandal. Charges were laid against Reggina (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggina_Calcio) and a 15-point penalty handed down.[4] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-reggina3-3)Messina (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.C._Messina_Peloro), Lecce (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Lecce)and Siena (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.C._Siena) are also being investigated as prosecutors continue to analyse transcripts of telephone calls.[16] (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Italian_football_scandal#cite_note-15)

-Wiki

B-MCINTYRE
01-23-2012, 05:06 AM
Is this the part where I question the integrity of the whole Italian soccer industry. Or do I wait ?

Wade Barrett 1979
01-23-2012, 05:07 AM
Is this the part where I question the integrity of the whole Italian soccer industry. Or do I wait ?

Don't have to question it chief, there is no integrity in Italian football!

B-MCINTYRE
01-23-2012, 05:09 AM
Don't have to question it chief, there is no integrity in Italian football!

Well then, that'll save me plenty of time then :)

Wade Barrett 1979
01-23-2012, 05:10 AM
Well then, that'll save me plenty of time then :)

Damn straight! :D

B-MCINTYRE
01-23-2012, 05:16 AM
Damn straight! :D
#DisgracefulSoccerFederation

Wade Barrett 1979
01-23-2012, 05:40 AM
#DisgracefulSoccerFederation

Yup! You hit the nail on the head there!

B-MCINTYRE
01-23-2012, 05:46 AM
Yup! You hit the nail on the head there!
Good I hate when I miss the head of the nail. Hurts my thumb!

Wade Barrett 1979
01-23-2012, 05:52 AM
Good I hate when I miss the head of the nail. Hurts my thumb!

Get someone else to hold it!

#thinkingoutsideofthebox

B-MCINTYRE
01-23-2012, 05:59 AM
Get someone else to hold it!

#thinkingoutsideofthebox

Good thinking!

#AlwaysBetterToInjureSomeoneElseRatherThanYourself !!

Wade Barrett 1979
02-12-2012, 07:14 AM
Bump this! :D

Steve Austin
02-12-2012, 07:17 AM
Bump this! :D

Haha :rolleyes:

Wade Barrett 1979
02-12-2012, 07:30 AM
Haha :rolleyes:

Wwwyki! :p