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Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 08:07 PM
Remember remember the fifth of November
Gunpowder, treason and plot.
I see no reason why gunpowder, treason
Should ever be forgot...

For those out of the loop, today is a British (holiday?)
celebrating the conviction of Britains most favourite domestic terroist!!

Guy Fawkes!!

http://ueberwachungsbuerger.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/guy_fawkes_portrait1.jpg

Happy Bonfire Night my British Chums!!

http://bestanimations.com/Holidays/Fireworks/animatedfireworks-14.gif
























Penny for the guy? ;)

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Jpdmm_npp4o/TNRM5ZNt0yI/AAAAAAAAI80/YU0hKpOM_DA/s400/guy-fawkes.jpg

Wade Barrett 1979
11-04-2011, 08:40 PM
It's pretty hard to forget, when you've got bleedin' fireworks going off every night, 5 weeks prior to the 5th :p

Nah, cheers chief! Have a good one too! :)

Polly-Pablo
11-04-2011, 09:03 PM
Cheers!!!!

A proper British maniac he was lol

Maybe we should find one who is willing to take out Cameron?

HolyJose2391
11-04-2011, 09:43 PM
Now...as an America here. The 5th of November does that the huge ass fire that destroyed most of London? Or what exactly was it?

Polly-Pablo
11-04-2011, 09:45 PM
Now...as an America here. The 5th of November does that the huge ass fire that destroyed most of London? Or what exactly was it?

That was the great fire of London in 1666....

Guy Fawkes was the guy who tried to blow up the Houses of Parliament with Gunpowder....he was tried for treason....1605

Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 09:58 PM
Now...as an America here. The 5th of November does that the huge ass fire that destroyed most of London? Or what exactly was it?

The great fire of London happened in 1666.

The gunpower plot happened in 1605, which this relates to ;) 2 years before we even started colonising America. Domestic terroism before you guys were even a country!! :D How about that?!! :)

The story in a nutshell is pretty much what is happening today ( except the attempted murder of the establishment!! :D ) with the riots and demostrations worldwide, funnily ehough!


The plan was to blow up the House of Lords during the State Opening of England's Parliament on 5 November 1605, as the prelude to a popular revolt in the Midlands during which James's nine-year-old daughter, Princess Elizabeth, was to be installed as the Catholic head of state. Catesby may have embarked on the scheme after hopes of securing greater religious tolerance under King James had faded, leaving many English Catholics disappointed. His fellow plotters were John Wright, Thomas Wintour, Thomas Percy, Guy Fawkes, Robert Keyes, Thomas Bates, Robert Wintour, Christopher Wright, John Grant, Sir Ambrose Rookwood, Sir Everard Digby and Francis Tresham. Fawkes, who had 10 years of military experience fighting in the Spanish Netherlands in suppression of the Dutch Revolt, was given charge of the explosives.

So yes we celebrate the conviction of domestic terroists 406 years later! Guy fawkes and his gang are cultural and folk (anti)Heroes!

Wade Barrett 1979
11-04-2011, 10:07 PM
The great fire of London happened in 1666.

The gunpower plot happened in 1605, which this relates to ;) 2 years before we even started colonising America. Domestic terroism before you guys were even a country!! :D How about that?!! :)

The story in a nutshell is pretty much what is happening today ( except the attempted murder of the establishment!! :D ) with the riots and demostrations worldwide, funnily ehough!



So yes we celebrate the conviction of domestic terroists 406 years later! Guy fawkes and his gang are cultural and folk (anti)Heroes!


You do know you've just taught more British history there, than gets taught in our schools these days?!

Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 10:14 PM
You do know you've just taught more British history there, than gets taught in our schools these days?!

NEVER!! We were taught about the gunpowder plot in school! Surely you were too!
You're only a couple of years older that me! ;) Although it does feel good to tell these yanks about their MotherLand!! :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs

YES this is a patiotic British tune. and NOT only the graduation song, and Macho Mans theme!

OOOOOOOOOOOOH YEAH!! :cool:

Polly-Pablo
11-04-2011, 10:22 PM
NEVER!! We were taught about the gunpowder plot in school! Surely you were too!
You're only a couple of years older that me! ;) Although it does feel good to tell these yanks about their MotherLand!! :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THYgeETrkPs

YES this is a patiotic British tune. and NOT only the graduation song, and Macho Mans theme!

OOOOOOOOOOOOH YEAH!! :cool:

Yeah WE were....but kids these days aren't! I hate that....it's sad to see

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 10:28 PM
http://tapirtantrum.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/beer_latinamerica.jpg

im mexican but i will join in

Rich Cranium
11-04-2011, 10:34 PM
Although it does feel good to tell these yanks about their MotherLand!! :D



So all of us Americans are descended from England? :confused:

Must recheck genealogy.

Wade Barrett 1979
11-04-2011, 10:35 PM
Yeah WE were....but kids these days aren't! I hate that....it's sad to see

Exactly! That's what I meant Tomsta! It really pisses me off how they skip over alot of British history, in schools these days!! God forbid they teach anything positive about the Empire and British contribution to the world today!! Apparently it's something we should all be ashamed of!! Give it a few more years and they'll be telling us Churchill was a tyrant and we should have followed Chamberlain's route of appeasement!! It's a fucking disgrace!

Rant over....for now!!

Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 10:35 PM
http://tapirtantrum.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/beer_latinamerica.jpg

im mexican but i will join in

Mexico at this time were being RAPED by the spanish!!
Hola amigo!! ¿Que pasa? :D

Wade Barrett 1979
11-04-2011, 10:36 PM
So all of us Americans are descended from England? :confused:

Must recheck genealogy.

You're really a smorgasboard of lots of different Europeans! Some of you poor buggers are French!! :D

Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 10:39 PM
So all of us Americans are descended from England? :confused:

Must recheck genealogy.

New England is dude!! I think the clue is in the name!! ;)

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 10:39 PM
Mexico at this time were being RAPED by the spanish!!
Hola amigo!! ¿Que pasa? :D

but we overcame those bitcheshttp://i2.esmas.com/2009/11/21/86065/desfile-de-la-revolucion-mexicana-300x350.jpg
anyways cheers mate

Polly-Pablo
11-04-2011, 10:42 PM
You're really a smorgasboard of lots of different Europeans! Some of you poor buggers are French!! :D

You couldn't sound any more English if you tried....lol classic

Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 10:42 PM
but we overcame those bitcheshttp://i2.esmas.com/2009/11/21/86065/desfile-de-la-revolucion-mexicana-300x350.jpg
anyways cheers mate

No worries Brother!! :cool:

I really didn't expect this thread to turn into a history lesson...

But i'm glad it did!! :D

Hey Robstar, how does it feel to be country populated by Victorian English degenerates!! :D

Polly-Pablo
11-04-2011, 10:43 PM
So all of us Americans are descended from England? :confused:

Must recheck genealogy.

At one point England ruled most of the world......we either gave it back or lost it in futile discussions....

And to make it more confusing.....our monarchy is descendant of Germans so you're all German-English yanks......

Rich Cranium
11-04-2011, 10:45 PM
You're really a smorgasboard of lots of different Europeans! Some of you poor buggers are French!! :D

Ah, well my dad's ancestors were vikings from Norway who conquered Ireland and then fled to America during the great potato famine and my mother's side are Native Americans.


New England is dude!! I think the clue is in the name!! ;)

I am from Florida and am in California now. New England is the north east U.S.

Wade Barrett 1979
11-04-2011, 10:45 PM
You couldn't sound any more English if you tried....lol classic

Ha! Somebody had to keep up English tradition! :p

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 10:45 PM
At one point England ruled most of the world......we either gave it back or lost it in futile discussions....

And to make it more confusing.....our monarchy is descendant of Germans so you're all German-English yanks......

dont worry i know how you feel
some stupid president of ours sold half of mexico to the us otherwise we would be like this
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_M1Kxwlt42ko/Sa2i5JI3Y8I/AAAAAAAAAJo/hKu_nl4adTU/S240/Territorio+real.jpg
everything in green would be us


damn im giving mexican history to british people i feel special

Rich Cranium
11-04-2011, 10:48 PM
dont worry i know how you feel
some stupid president of ours sold half of mexico to the us otherwise we would be like this
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_M1Kxwlt42ko/Sa2i5JI3Y8I/AAAAAAAAAJo/hKu_nl4adTU/S240/Territorio+real.jpg
everything in green would be us

damn im giving mexican history to british people i feel special

So true! I am in Cali but could be an illegal in Mexico right now had that president of yours not sold out! Boggles the mind. :)

Wade Barrett 1979
11-04-2011, 10:49 PM
Ah, well my dad's ancestors were vikings from Norway who conquered Ireland and then fled to America during the great potato famine and my mother's side are Native Americans.
I am from Florida and am in California now. New England is the north east U.S.

Wow, that's really interesting Rich! So you are part, one of the very few, genuine and original Americans!! That's very cool my friend! :)

Wade Barrett 1979
11-04-2011, 10:51 PM
dont worry i know how you feel
some stupid president of ours sold half of mexico to the us otherwise we would be like this
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_M1Kxwlt42ko/Sa2i5JI3Y8I/AAAAAAAAAJo/hKu_nl4adTU/S240/Territorio+real.jpg
everything in green would be us


damn im giving mexican history to british people i feel special

Good to know! I absolutely love history, in all forms and for all countries!

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 10:52 PM
So true! I am in Cali but could be an illegal in Mexico right now had that president of yours not sold out! Boggles the mind. :)

i like how you accept it ive talked to americans about this before and they wouldnt accept it
but you rich have given me faith in americans

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 10:52 PM
Good to know! I absolutely love history, in all forms and for all countries!

i suck at history what i just told you is all i know lol

Rich Cranium
11-04-2011, 10:55 PM
i suck at history what i just told you is all i know lol

Yeah, we have a lot of Mexicans around here and I had a relative from Florida ask, why are there so many Mexicans here? I said, "Didn't you know this was their country first?" Lol.

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 10:56 PM
Yeah, we have a lot of Mexicans around here and I had a relative from Florida ask, why are there so many Mexicans here? I said, "Didn't you know this was their country first?" Lol.

i used to live in sacramento

Wade Barrett 1979
11-04-2011, 10:57 PM
i suck at history what i just told you is all i know lol

Ha! That's fair enough! Trust me, see if you can get in to it! Even if it's just at home with your computer, you'll learn so much and it'll give you some great tools and insights for life! I nearly took history as a degree!!

Rich Cranium
11-04-2011, 10:58 PM
i used to live in sacramento

You know Arnold Schwarzenegger messed around while he was governor and you are rather young right? JK :)

I am about 20 minutes north of San Francisco.

Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 11:03 PM
All Americans, well most, are descendants from Europen settlers. British, French and I think Dutch. The earliest ( probably us Brits :( ) settlers who establish a country, at least in its earliest from, Raped the natives (indians) for their land. Pretty nasty part of U.S history that pretty much gets glossed over really. Unless you watch the cowboy films from the 50's and 60's!! You guys only remember the thanksgiving story that happened before this. Which is pretty rough :(

I might be wrong... someone please correct me if I am, cos this is a pretty shitty part of history :(

I'm a poet, and I didn't know it!!!

Rich Cranium
11-04-2011, 11:07 PM
All Americans, well most, are descendants from Europen settlers. British, French and I think Dutch. The earliest ( probably us Brits :( ) settlers who establish a country, at least in its earliest from, Raped the natives (indians) for their land. Pretty nasty part of U.S history that pretty much gets glossed over really. Unless you watch the cowboy films from the 50's and 60's!! You guys only remember the thanksgiving story that happened before this. Which is pretty rough :(

I might be wrong... someone please correct me if I am, cos this is a pretty shitty part of history :(

I'm a poet, and I didn't know it!!!

And the Spanish. Here is a US map circa 1750:

http://www.learner.org/biographyofamerica/prog03/maps/images/map_03_a.gif

Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 11:12 PM
And the Spanish. Here is a US map circa 1750:

http://www.learner.org/biographyofamerica/prog03/maps/images/map_03_a.gif

To be honest man, I know we colonised, I know you rebeled!!

YOU DIDN'T LIKE OUR Tea prices, so you throwed them ashore in Boston!
This was the start of the American revolution, The war of independence. Where we got owned! ;)

My anglo american history is only limited... I don't want to run my self in a corner!!! :cool:

Rich Cranium
11-04-2011, 11:15 PM
To be honest man, I know we colonised, I know you rebeled!!

YOU DIDN'T LIKE OUR Tea prices, so you throwed them ashore in Boston!
This was the start of the American revolution, The war of independence. Where we got owned! ;)

My anglo american history is only limited... I don't want to run my self in a corner!!! :cool:

We didn't agree on paying the 'royal' taxes either.

Polly-Pablo
11-04-2011, 11:23 PM
We didn't agree on paying the 'royal' taxes either.

Neither do we....but there's naff all we can do about it! I'm not a royalist...I'm a realist...I serve to protect my own, not that family.

Rich Cranium
11-04-2011, 11:25 PM
Neither do we....but there's naff all we can do about it! I'm not a royalist...I'm a realist...I serve to protect my own, not that family.

That is the same reason I served as well.

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 11:50 PM
And the Spanish. Here is a US map circa 1750:

http://www.learner.org/biographyofamerica/prog03/maps/images/map_03_a.gif

spain called it new spain i think right?

IrkenInvader
11-04-2011, 11:50 PM
Although it does feel good to tell these yanks about their MotherLand!!

My mother land is Germany. Screw your backwards country.

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 11:51 PM
Ha! That's fair enough! Trust me, see if you can get in to it! Even if it's just at home with your computer, you'll learn so much and it'll give you some great tools and insights for life! I nearly took history as a degree!!

im taking english and computer classes for both degrees

Tomsta666
11-04-2011, 11:52 PM
My mother land is Germany. Screw your backwards country.

Well then SIEG HEIL!!

http://www.heathenworld.com/swastika/Thumbnails/t_naziflag.gif

\;)

pauadrian
11-04-2011, 11:53 PM
Well then SIEG HEIL!!

http://www.heathenworld.com/swastika/Thumbnails/t_naziflag.gif

\;)
http://endirecto.mx/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Adolf-hitler.jpg

IrkenInvader
11-04-2011, 11:56 PM
All Americans, well most, are descendants from Europen settlers. British, French and I think Dutch. The earliest ( probably us Brits :( ) settlers who establish a country, at least in its earliest from, Raped the natives (indians) for their land. Pretty nasty part of U.S history that pretty much gets glossed over really. Unless you watch the cowboy films from the 50's and 60's!! You guys only remember the thanksgiving story that happened before this. Which is pretty rough :(

I might be wrong... someone please correct me if I am, cos this is a pretty shitty part of history :(

I'm a poet, and I didn't know it!!!

We know it happened we just chose to ignore it.

IrkenInvader
11-04-2011, 11:57 PM
Well then SIEG HEIL!!

http://www.heathenworld.com/swastika/Thumbnails/t_naziflag.gif

\;)

My Grandfather had cousins in the Hitler Youth.

Tomsta666
11-05-2011, 12:06 AM
My Grandfather had cousins in the Hitler Youth.

Why doesn't this surprise me??? Did they know the pope!? ;)

VanHooliganX
11-05-2011, 12:27 AM
It's pretty hard to forget, when you've got bleedin' fireworks going off every night, 5 weeks prior to the 5th :p

Nah, cheers chief! Have a good one too! :)

Ugh tell me about it.

It's getting annoying now.