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Juvenile Junkie
10-30-2011, 07:37 AM
Here is mine:

Steve Kean as coach,Johne Evans,Christian Chivu and Karl Jenkinson as my back three.Just kidding

Formation(4-2-3-1)

1.Casillas (GK)
2.Dani Alvez (RB)
3.Evra (LB)
4.Pique (CB)
5.Vidic (CB)
6.Xavi (CM)
7.C.Ronaldo (RF)
8.Iniesta (CM)
9.Ibrahimovic ( CF)
10.Messi (LF)
11.Sneijder (CAM)

Bench: Neuer,Eto'o,Rooney,Thiago Silva,Philip Lahm,Xabi Alonso,Mesut Ozil

Coach: Jose Mourinho(won EPL,won Serie A,will win La Liga,so his knowledge of different football leagues shades Sir Alex Ferguson,just)

here's mine,whats yours?

Steve Austin
10-30-2011, 01:50 PM
GK - Reina
RB - Sergio Ramos
CB - Vidic
CB - Kompany
LB - Jose Enrique
RM - Messi
CM - Xavi
CM - David Silva
LM - Cristiano Ronaldo
ST - Suarez
ST - Rooney

Bench: Cech, Dani Alves, Vermaelen, Xabi Alonso, Gerrard, Van Persie, Torres.

Manager: Sir Alex Ferguson.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-30-2011, 02:13 PM
Manager : Sir alex Ferguson

GK. Cech
RB. Lahm
CB. vidic
CB. pique
LB. evra
DM. Xavi
CM. Iniesta
CM. Ozil
RW. Ronaldo
ST. Rooney / Villa
LW. Messi

Bench: Rooney/Villa , Sneijder , Dani alves , Aguero , Fabregas , Neuer , Pepe

VanHooliganX
10-30-2011, 02:58 PM
Feel like making 2. 1 current and 1 dream team overall

Overall:

Manager: Sir Alf Ramsey
GK: Gordan Banks
DF: John Terry
DF: Roberto Carlos
DF: Jaap Stam
DF: Maicon
MF: David Beckham
MF: Leo Messi
MF: Zidane
MF: Maradona (attacking midfielder role really)
FW: Van Basten
FW: Pele

But here is todays current for me:

GK: Hart
DF: John Terry
DF: Evra
DF: Pique
DF: Kolarov
MF: Messi
MF: David Silva
MF: James Milner (inb4 someone complain that he doesn't score even though he's got a stupid amount of assists like midfielders should have)
MF: Gerrard
FW: Van Persie
FW: Kun Aguero

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-30-2011, 03:18 PM
Feel like making 2. 1 current and 1 dream team overall

Overall:

Manager: Sir Alf Ramsey
GK: Gordan Banks
DF: John Terry
DF: Roberto Carlos
DF: Jaap Stam
DF: Maicon
MF: David Beckham
MF: Leo Messi
MF: Zidane
MF: Maradona (attacking midfielder role really)
FW: Van Basten
FW: Pele

But here is todays current for me:

GK: Hart
DF: John Terry
DF: Evra
DF: Pique
DF: Kolarov
MF: Messi
MF: David Silva
MF: James Milner (inb4 someone complain that he doesn't score even though he's got a stupid amount of assists like midfielders should have)
MF: Gerrard
FW: Van Persie
FW: Kun Aguero

milner and kolorov ?. strange choices for me but it's your team :) i like your all time dream team tho, fourght you mite of had cafu instead of maicon tho

VanHooliganX
10-30-2011, 03:33 PM
milner and kolorov ?. strange choices for me but it's your team :) i like your all time dream team tho, fourght you mite of had cafu instead of maicon tho

If I added subs then Cafu would be there. The reason Maicon is there is because I enjoy watching him play :)
Don't get me wrong I enjoyed Cafu playing but Maicon gets in :)

As for Kolarov and Milner. Kolarov is a world class defender and very underrated. As for Milner, i'm the only person so far not to choose a midfielder that scores a stupid amount of goals for a midfielder (Maybe me picking Gerrard too but thats your opinion of whether hes a playmaker or goalscoring midfielder). With Milner being in i've then got 1 of the best playmakers in the Premier League.

Don't get me wrong. Nothing bad with having 4 goalscoring midfielders, a lot of picks can create plays also, just Milner specialises in them. Hence why Villa did brill once Barry left.

Also thank you :)
You should make a overall 1 too, i'm sure you'd pick badass legends yourself

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-30-2011, 04:34 PM
fair points mate and i respect what you are saying :) and thats alrite no worries, and think i will do one so here goes :

GK. Schmeichel
RB. Cafu
CB. Beckenbauer
CB. Moore
LB. Maldini
RM. Figo
CM. Zidane
CM. Cryuff
LM. Best
ST. Pele/Eusebio
ST. Maradona / Ronaldo

Bench : Baresi , Zoff , Zico , Charlton , Carlos , Pele/Eusebio , Maradona/Ronaldo

CGBigMan
10-30-2011, 05:07 PM
GK:Neuer
RB:Ramos
CB:Vidic
CB:Thiago Silva
LB:Evra
RM:Ronaldo
CM:Silva
CM:Sneijder
LM:Messi
ST:Pato
ST:Aguero

VanHooliganX
10-30-2011, 05:58 PM
fair points mate and i respect what you are saying :) and thats alrite no worries, and think i will do one so here goes :

GK. Schmeichel
RB. Cafu
CB. Beckenbauer
CB. Moore
LB. Maldini
RM. Figo
CM. Zidane
CM. Cryuff
LM. Best
ST. Pele/Eusebio
ST. Maradona / Ronaldo

Bench : Baresi , Zoff , Zico , Charlton , Carlos , Pele/Eusebio , Maradona/Ronaldo

Nice overall team :). I stupidly forgot about Cryuff and Figo, they'll have to be subs now lol

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-30-2011, 06:18 PM
Nice overall team :). I stupidly forgot about Cryuff and Figo, they'll have to be subs now lol

haha there's so many good players too choose from :) it's good seeing other people's teams and seeing who they would choose,

Wade Barrett 1979
10-30-2011, 06:29 PM
All Time XI:

GK: Yashin
DF: Maldini
DF: Moore
DF: Beckenbauer
DF: Beresi
MD: Cruyff
MD: Zico
MD: Platini
MD: Maradona
FW: Pele
FW: Muller

Bench:
GK: Banks
DF: Cafu
DF: Garrincha
MD: Best
MD: Di Stefano
FW: Eusebio
FW: Puskas

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-30-2011, 06:34 PM
All Time XI:

GK: Yashin
DF: Maldini
DF: Moore
DF: Beckenbauer
DF: Beresi
MD: Cruyff
MD: Zico
MD: Platini
MD: Maradona
FW: Pele
FW: Muller

Bench:
GK: Banks
DF: Cafu
DF: Garrincha
MD: Best
MD: Di Stefano
FW: Eusebio
FW: Puskas

did you get that team from a website ?. sure ive seen that exact team somwhere on the net, still tho sick team man :) didnt even think about Garrincha.. i fink he was a winger tho, but so good many consider him too have been better then pele, because he had one leg shorter then the other, didnt train.. smoked and drunk and yet.. was still amazing LOL

Wade Barrett 1979
10-30-2011, 06:43 PM
did you get that team from a website ?. sure ive seen that exact team somwhere on the net, still tho sick team man :) didnt even think about Garrincha.. i fink he was a winger tho, but so good many consider him too have been better then pele, because he had one leg shorter then the other, didnt train.. smoked and drunk and yet.. was still amazing LOL

I wouldn't use a website to pick my team chief! If you look for long enough, you'll provably find exact copies
of all the teams we've picked! You could use Garrrincha as a right wing back! Is a bit of a cheat :p

EDIT: Also you don't find Zico or Muller on many lists, weirdly?!

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-30-2011, 06:49 PM
I wouldn't use a website to pick my team chief! If you look for long enough, you'll provably find exact copies
of all the teams we've picked! You could use Garrrincha as a right wing back! Is a bit of a cheat :p

EDIT: Also you don't find Zico or Muller on many lists, weirdly?!

fair enough mate :) who's yashin he's the olny one ive never heard off ?.very true man you dont really see them two on many list's tbh, there's so many too choose from tho :) and haha good get out clause with the right wing back :D

Wade Barrett 1979
10-30-2011, 06:55 PM
Yashin was a Russian keeper, started playing in the 50's, nicknamed 'The Black Spider!' Look him up! I'm a bit of a sad Statto, when it comes to sport! :p This has been my 'team' for these discussions for a while now :) You do have to be a bit loose, with the rules and formation sometimes :D

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-30-2011, 08:06 PM
cool yeh i will look him up.. im the same tbh, dunno if you have ever watched any of the footballs greatest on sky sports ?. there preety good mate :D and yh deffo i agree.. fink im going too have zidane playing keeper next time so i can get zico in my first team LOL

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:28 AM
GK:Neuer
RB:Ramos
CB:Vidic
CB:Thiago Silva
LB:Evra
RM:Ronaldo
CM:Silva
CM:Sneijder
LM:Messi
ST:Pato
ST:Aguero

Finally somebody who recognises that Thiago Silva has the making of A WORLD CLASS DEFENDER!!!

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:29 AM
cURRENT WORLD xi'S PLEASE!!!!

Tommy Thunder
10-31-2011, 05:47 AM
My current World Xi (4-3-3):

GK: Gianluigi Buffon
RB: Dani Alves
LB: Eric Abidal
CB: Nemanja Vidic
CB: Thiago Silva
MF: Anders Iniesta
MF: Xavi
MF: Wesley Sneijder
FW: Christiano Ronaldo
FW: David Villa
FW: Lionel Messi

Bench:
GK: Iker Casillas
DF: Lucio
DF: Patrice Evra
MF: Kaka
MF: Arjen Robben
FW: Gonzalo Higuain
FW: Robin Van Persie

All time Xi (4-3-1-2):

GK: Dino Zoff
RB: Cafu
LB: Roberto Carlos
CB: Franco Baresi
CB: Paolo Maldini
MF: Johan Cruyff
MF: Zinedine Zidane
MF: George Best
AM: Rivaldo
FW: Diego Maradona
FW: Pele

Bech:
GK: Lev Yashin
DF: Fabio Cannavaro
DF: Franz Beckenbauer
MF: Alfredo Di Dtefano
MF: Zico
FW: Eusebio
FW: Hugo Sanchez

CGBigMan
10-31-2011, 06:13 AM
My current World Xi (4-3-3):

GK: Gianluigi Buffon
RB: Dani Alves
LB: Eric Abidal
CB: Nemanja Vidic
CB: Thiago Silva
MF: Anders Iniesta
MF: Xavi
MF: Wesley Sneijder
FW: Christiano Ronaldo
FW: David Villa
FW: Lionel Messi

Bench:
GK: Iker Casillas
DF: Lucio
DF: Patrice Evra
MF: Kaka
MF: Arjen Robben
FW: Gonzalo Higuain
FW: Robin Van Persie

All time Xi (4-3-1-2):

GK: Dino Zoff
RB: Cafu
LB: Roberto Carlos
CB: Franco Baresi
CB: Paolo Maldini
MF: Johan Cruyff
MF: Zinedine Zidane
MF: George Best
AM: Rivaldo
FW: Diego Maradona
FW: Pele

Bech:
GK: Lev Yashin
DF: Fabio Cannavaro
DF: Franz Beckenbauer
MF: Alfredo Di Dtefano
MF: Zico
FW: Eusebio
FW: Hugo Sanchez

Persoannly i beilve buffon is past it
but ocverall thats a good team

Tommy Thunder
10-31-2011, 06:28 AM
Persoannly i beilve buffon is past it
but ocverall thats a good team

I still think he's one of the best in the world today. Maybe I put Casillas on the bench due to me supporting Barcelona lol, but no, i honestly think Buffon is still one of the world's best keepers.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 11:06 AM
Finally somebody who recognises that Thiago Silva has the making of A WORLD CLASS DEFENDER!!!

you say has the making, but shouldnt a dream team or your best eleven be the best around now ?.but hey it's your team.. i personally belive with the exception of Sneijder and maybe pato , there are no other world class players in the italian league, i find zlatan ibrahimovic so over rated !! but just my opinion :)

Steve Austin
10-31-2011, 12:16 PM
you say has the making, but shouldnt a dream team or your best eleven be the best around now ?.but hey it's your team.. i personally belive with the exception of Sneijder and maybe pato , there are no other world class players in the italian league, i find zlatan ibrahimovic so over rated !! but just my opinion :)

IMO there are no Serie A players good enough to be in a World XI if FIFA or UEFA were to release one Sneijder is good put there are quite a feww better midfielders around. Pato and Ibrahimovic are overrated, Thiago Silva is very good but I think there are still a few better defenders howevers it's not a real World XI it's whatever you want so I'm not here to judge. TBH it's just nice to speak about football with people who seem to know what they're talking about rather than most of my friends who only watch the BPL and judge players on their ratings on FIFA (the game) which can be very annoying and lead to heated arguments - The beauty of football :p

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 12:55 PM
IMO there are no Serie A players good enough to be in a World XI if FIFA or UEFA were to release one Sneijder is good put there are quite a feww better midfielders around. Pato and Ibrahimovic are overrated, Thiago Silva is very good but I think there are still a few better defenders howevers it's not a real World XI it's whatever you want so I'm not here to judge. TBH it's just nice to speak about football with people who seem to know what they're talking about rather than most of my friends who only watch the BPL and judge players on their ratings on FIFA (the game) which can be very annoying and lead to heated arguments - The beauty of football :p

I agree man, and if it came across i was slating his team, didnt mean too do that :) but yh i enjoy hearing about people's teams and stuff !!

Steve Austin
10-31-2011, 01:06 PM
I agree man, and if it came across i was slating his team, didnt mean too do that :) but yh i enjoy hearing about people's teams and stuff !!

Nah it didn't I was just saying incase people did think that :) What team do you support by the way? I couldn't tell from your team. I'm gonna guess Man Utd ;)

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 01:20 PM
Nah it didn't I was just saying incase people did think that :) What team do you support by the way? I couldn't tell from your team. I'm gonna guess Man Utd ;)

haha yh good guess, im a united fan :) what abour yourself ?.

Tommy Thunder
10-31-2011, 01:20 PM
To counter the anti-Seria A guys:

Wesley Sneijder definately deserves to be in a World Xi. I shouldn't need to explain why.

Zlatan Ibrahimovich overrated? 35 goals in 75 for Ajax, 23 goals in 63 for Juventus, 57 goals in 88 for Inter, 16 in 29 for Barca, and 18 (and counting) in 34 (and counting) for Milan. I think those stats say otherwise.

Thiago Silva is one of the best centre backs in the world right now. In the premiership, only Vidic IMO is better than him. Lucio and Walter Samuel are 2 other centre backs that deserves to be in a World Xi.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 01:30 PM
To counter the anti-Seria A guys:

Wesley Sneijder definately deserves to be in a World Xi. I shouldn't need to explain why.

Zlatan Ibrahimovich overrated? 35 goals in 75 for Ajax, 23 goals in 63 for Juventus, 57 goals in 88 for Inter, 16 in 29 for Barca, and 18 (and counting) in 34 (and counting) for Milan. I think those stats say otherwise.

Thiago Silva is one of the best centre backs in the world right now. In the premiership, only Vidic IMO is better than him. Lucio and Walter Samuel are 2 other centre backs that deserves to be in a World Xi.

Couldnt disagree with you more mate, i respect your opinion , but you cant just say stats, because im preety sure i could find someone with better starts in the one of the lower leagues so would that make him better then zlatan ?. the italian leage imo is very poor and yh he's done alright there but barca sold him for a reason.. he is not world class, sneijder is i already said that.. silva is alrite not world class , vidic , terry , ivanovic , vermaelen all better them him imo , even smalling and phil jones are as good as him.. lucio and samuel both were decent but there is a reason inter are stuggling and you can look at there back fours age, past it !! , it's jus opinion tho man, so i dont want too turn this into a heated discussion

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 01:42 PM
For me i look at zlatan.. and i see his size , his touch and all the skills he has.. he has everything that should make him the best, but too me he delivers wen he wants to.. ive seen him plenty of times in the champions league and he seems too bottle games, thats why for me he aint world class, like i said tho just my opinion..

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 01:43 PM
My current World Xi (4-3-3):

FW: Robin Van Persie



If he stayed injury free,he could be in many people's world XI's......

Allow me to Introduce all the Premfacers to an Immortal Icon they call Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

Tommy Thunder
10-31-2011, 01:44 PM
Couldnt disagree with you more mate, i respect your opinion , but you cant just say stats, because im preety sure i could find someone with better starts in the one of the lower leagues so would that make him better then zlatan ?. the italian leage imo is very poor and yh he's done alright there but barca sold him for a reason.. he is not world class, sneijder is i already said that.. silva is alrite not world class , vidic , terry , ivanovic , vermaelen all better them him imo , even smalling and phil jones are as good as him.. lucio and samuel both were decent but there is a reason inter are stuggling and you can look at there back fours age, past it !! , it's jus opinion tho man, so i dont want too turn this into a heated discussion

Heated discussions is what forums are all about dude. You shouldn't be here if you're not ready for that!

I agree that the Italian league is in a very poor state at the moment. I'll quote myself in saying that "The Italian league is dying a very slow and painful death".

But on the other hand, you can't compare lower leagues with Serie A. Ibraahimovic scoring that many goals for Inter, Juve, Milan, Barca and Ajax isn't the same as whoever you're thinking of scoring for whichever team you're thinking of. That's a laughable comparison!

I said Vidic was better than Silva. Terry isn't as good as he used to be, Ivanovic is just as good as Silva IMO. Jury's still out on Vermaelen for me. He has the makings of a fantastic player, but I'm yet to be fully convinced. Smalling and Jones have barely started out on their careers for a top class team yet, so comparing them with a guy who's played 78 games for Milan and has 19 caps for his country isn't really a fair comparison. Both have the potential of becoming great players, but they haven't done anything to warrant being in a World Xi ahead of Silva.

Fair points on Lucio and Samuel. I still say Lucio is deserving of being in a World Xi side though. He's still a fantastic defender. Samuel's been very unfortunate with injuries in recent seasons. Had he not had those setbacks, there's no doubt in my mind he'd be back to one of the best in the world.

Tommy Thunder
10-31-2011, 01:45 PM
If he stayed injury free,he could be in many people's world XI's......

Allow me to Introduce all the Premfacers to an Immortal Icon they call Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

That's what I'm saying. RVP at his best is without doubt one of the best strikers in the world IMO.

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 01:51 PM
For me i look at zlatan.. and i see his size , his touch and all the skills he has.. he has everything that should make him the best, but too me he delivers wen he wants to.. ive seen him plenty of times in the champions league and he seems too bottle games, thats why for me he aint world class, like i said tho just my opinion..

Not entirely his fault.

@ Ajax,well,getting Ajax to the last 8 and eliminating Arsenal single handedly put him on the map
@ Juventus,2 words,Fabio Capello,who sucks at knock out competitions,went super-defensive and only used 1 striker.
@ Inter,Roberto mancini,another UCL dud-coach,lack of midfield creativity(Sneijder wasn't there yet),bad refereeing in the Inter/LFC tie
@AC Mi.lan,too many injuries.They had to play 35 year old Mario Yepes against Aaron Lennon,and had to put Thiago Slilva in Midfield.they only hsd 2 fit midfielders.

9 domestic titles in a row,at 5 different clubs,in 3 countries,Robin Van Persie eat your heart out.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 01:54 PM
Heated discussions is what forums are all about dude. You shouldn't be here if you're not ready for that!

I agree that the Italian league is in a very poor state at the moment. I'll quote myself in saying that "The Italian league is dying a very slow and painful death".

But on the other hand, you can't compare lower leagues with Serie A. Ibraahimovic scoring that many goals for Inter, Juve, Milan, Barca and Ajax isn't the same as whoever you're thinking of scoring for whichever team you're thinking of. That's a laughable comparison!

I said Vidic was better than Silva. Terry isn't as good as he used to be, Ivanovic is just as good as Silva IMO. Jury's still out on Vermaelen for me. He has the makings of a fantastic player, but I'm yet to be fully convinced. Smalling and Jones have barely started out on their careers for a top class team yet, so comparing them with a guy who's played 78 games for Milan and has 19 caps for his country isn't really a fair comparison. Both have the potential of becoming great players, but they haven't done anything to warrant being in a World Xi ahead of Silva.

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Fair points on Lucio and Samuel. I still say Lucio is deserving of being in a World Xi side though. He's still a fantastic defender. Samuel's been very unfortunate with injuries in recent seasons. Had he not had those setbacks, there's no doubt in my mind he'd be back to one of the best in the world.

im here too hear opinions and chat about things in general but mostly wrestling.. not an argument,

you say ivanovic is just as good as silva i agree.. but invanovic is not world class thats my point, silva is good yh he is.. but who's he facing in the italian leage del piero ?. a legend but sumone who is past it..i think if he was in a better league he would be found out, just like david luiz does at chelsea, brazillans are not the best defenders man, im saying he is not world class imo..

what i meant was it's easy too just bring up stats.. yh he has a decent scoring record, but so many strikers do, van nistelrooy still has a good goal scoring record but aint no one going too have him in a world xi now.. stats are misleading if you choose too look at them and then judge sumone bye how good they are bye them then thats up2 you.. wen ive seen him he aint deliverd, and like i said barca sold him for reason ini..

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:01 PM
Heated discussions is what forums are all about dude. You shouldn't be here if you're not ready for that!

I agree that the Italian league is in a very poor state at the moment. I'll quote myself in saying that "The Italian league is dying a very slow and painful death".

But on the other hand, you can't compare lower leagues with Serie A. Ibraahimovic scoring that many goals for Inter, Juve, Milan, Barca and Ajax isn't the same as whoever you're thinking of scoring for whichever team you're thinking of. That's a laughable comparison!

I said Vidic was better than Silva. Terry isn't as good as he used to be, Ivanovic is just as good as Silva IMO. Jury's still out on Vermaelen for me. He has the makings of a fantastic player, but I'm yet to be fully convinced. Smalling and Jones have barely started out on their careers for a top class team yet, so comparing them with a guy who's played 78 games for Milan and has 19 caps for his country isn't really a fair comparison. Both have the potential of becoming great players, but they haven't done anything to warrant being in a World Xi ahead of Silva.

Fair points on Lucio and Samuel. I still say Lucio is deserving of being in a World Xi side though. He's still a fantastic defender. Samuel's been very unfortunate with injuries in recent seasons. Had he not had those setbacks, there's no doubt in my mind he'd be back to one of the best in the world.

Serie A has improved over the last year and a half,no league will ever match what Serie A had in the nineties with the 7 sisters(juventus,Inter,AC,Lazio,Parma,Roma)

EPL people hate Ibrahimovic,its the anti-Serie A propaganda from the english media.

You people are all a bunch of idiots who know nothing about football,a real expert would have put Emile Heskey in their World XI!
And Massimo Taibi,Adrian Mutu,Johne Evans,Felipe Melo,Momo Sissokho and Marcelo at Left back.

Wade Barrett 1979
10-31-2011, 02:03 PM
Not entirely his fault.

@ Ajax,well,getting Ajax to the last 8 and eliminating Arsenal single handedly put him on the map
@ Juventus,2 words,Fabio Capello,who sucks at knock out competitions,went super-defensive and only used 1 striker.
@ Inter,Roberto mancini,another UCL dud-coach,lack of midfield creativity(Sneijder wasn't there yet),bad refereeing in the Inter/LFC tie
@AC Mi.lan,too many injuries.They had to play 35 year old Mario Yepes against Aaron Lennon,and had to put Thiago Slilva in Midfield.they only hsd 2 fit midfielders.

9 domestic titles in a row,at 5 different clubs,in 3 countries,Robin Van Persie eat your heart out.

I've got to give you props for consistency:

Mentioning knocking out Arsenal

Calling out current England manager

Calling out current PL manager

Calling out current PL player

You just can't help yourself, can you?!

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:04 PM
IMO there are no Serie A players good enough to be in a World XI if FIFA or UEFA were to release one

Tomorrow is first of November,not first of April.

Wade Barrett 1979
10-31-2011, 02:04 PM
Serie A has improved over the last year and a half,no league will ever match what Serie A had in the nineties with the 7 sisters(juventus,Inter,AC,Lazio,Parma,Roma)

EPL people hate Ibrahimovic,its the anti-Serie A propaganda from the english media.

You people are all a bunch of idiots who know nothing about football,a real expert would have put Emile Heskey in their World XI!
And Massimo Taibi,Adrian Mutu,Johne Evans,Felipe Melo,Momo Sissokho and Marcelo at Left back.

You make my arguments so easy! Xenophobia rears it's ugly head yet again!!

Tommy Thunder
10-31-2011, 02:14 PM
im here too hear opinions and chat about things in general but mostly wrestling.. not an argument,

you say ivanovic is just as good as silva i agree.. but invanovic is not world class thats my point, silva is good yh he is.. but who's he facing in the italian leage del piero ?. a legend but sumone who is past it..i think if he was in a better league he would be found out, just like david luiz does at chelsea, brazillans are not the best defenders man, im saying he is not world class imo..

what i meant was it's easy too just bring up stats.. yh he has a decent scoring record, but so many strikers do, van nistelrooy still has a good goal scoring record but aint no one going too have him in a world xi now.. stats are misleading if you choose too look at them and then judge sumone bye how good they are bye them then thats up2 you.. wen ive seen him he aint deliverd, and like i said barca sold him for reason ini..

Ivanovic is better than Terry, Ferdinand, Jones, Smalling need I go on? I'd say Ivanovic is the best centre back in the Premiership after Vidic. And if you did your homework, you'd know that Del Piero doesn't get a look in at Juve these days, so Silva isn't defending against poor competition. And from what I've seen David Luiz has been excellent for Chelsea. Brazilians not the best defenders? Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Maicon, Dani Alvez, Juan, Roque Junior, Lucio, Alex all say hello.

Strikers are judged on their goals per game ratio, simple as that. Same as goalkeepers are judged on their clean sheet per game ratio. Yes Van Nisterooy has a good goal per game ratio, but he's 35, Ibrahimovic is 30. Peak age. He's a great player, always has been. I've seen him destroy teams on his own before, that's why I think he more than deserves to be in consideration for a place in a World Xi side.

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:16 PM
I've got to give you props for consistency:

Mentioning knocking out Arsenal

Calling out current England manager

Calling out current PL manager

Calling out current PL player

You just can't help yourself, can you?!

didn't bash Aaron Lennon,he destroyed AC Milan.

Nah,never diiged Mancini as a UCl coach.he finished bottom of the group with Lazio,which was before Calciopoli,he got fired from Inter because of his UCL flops.They even lost to little Villarreal back in 2006 in the QF.

I lost respect for Capello when he left he Juventus the moment Calciopoli broke...........to go to a club who had fired him years ago.It was an an Engllsh journalist who was over here for the world cup who pointed out that capello had never won a domestic cup or the old UEFA Cup or Cup Winners Cup,all knockout competitions.His only uCL title was when the QF was a group stage,and was with the great team that Arrigo Sacchi built.He has never gone passed the QF of the UCL.

Fabio Capello left Roma to got to Juventus,he is seen as a Judas by Roma fans,despite winning a league title with them(they have only won 3).Ironically enough,a fomer England manager Sven Goran Eriksen is seen as a hero by the other Roman club Lazio for winning trophies(league,cup,Cup winners Cup),plus a Champions league QF,a UEFA Cup final.Sven is Lazio's most succesful coach.

never realised my ''consistancy'',never intended on stirring trouble.

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:17 PM
You make my arguments so easy! Xenophobia rears it's ugly head yet again!!

what,the Heskey part was sarcasm.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 02:20 PM
Ivanovic is better than Terry, Ferdinand, Jones, Smalling need I go on? I'd say Ivanovic is the best centre back in the Premiership after Vidic. And if you did your homework, you'd know that Del Piero doesn't get a look in at Juve these days, so Silva isn't defending against poor competition. And from what I've seen David Luiz has been excellent for Chelsea. Brazilians not the best defenders? Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Maicon, Dani Alvez, Juan, Roque Junior, Lucio, Alex all say hello.

Strikers are judged on their goals per game ratio, simple as that. Same as goalkeepers are judged on their clean sheet per game ratio. Yes Van Nisterooy has a good goal per game ratio, but he's 35, Ibrahimovic is 30. Peak age. He's a great player, always has been. I've seen him destroy teams on his own before, that's why I think he more than deserves to be in consideration for a place in a World Xi side.

mate we could go on for ages.. but the brazillian defenders you just named most are known for there attacking not defending..

okay you have seen him destory teams.. ive seen him not get involved in the big games and do nothing.. no one is rite just opinions my friend so shall we leave it there ?.

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:22 PM
Ivanovic is better than Terry, Ferdinand, Jones, Smalling need I go on? I'd say Ivanovic is the best centre back in the Premiership after Vidic. And if you did your homework, you'd know that Del Piero doesn't get a look in at Juve these days, so Silva isn't defending against poor competition. And from what I've seen David Luiz has been excellent for Chelsea. Brazilians not the best defenders? Cafu, Roberto Carlos, Maicon, Dani Alvez, Juan, Roque Junior, Lucio, Alex all say hello.

Strikers are judged on their goals per game ratio, simple as that. Same as goalkeepers are judged on their clean sheet per game ratio. Yes Van Nisterooy has a good goal per game ratio, but he's 35, Ibrahimovic is 30. Peak age. He's a great player, always has been. I've seen him destroy teams on his own before, that's why I think he more than deserves to be in consideration for a place in a World Xi side.

Ten out of ten.I think because Thiago Silva plays for AC milan,who have a tradition of world class defenders,he is taken for granted.

BARCELONA WANTED THIAGO SILVA,a statement that speaks for itself.

wow,nobody picked Torres in their world XI,almost unthinkable 2 years ago.

Neymar anyone? Needs to play in Europe.

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:23 PM
mate we could go on for ages.. but the brazillian defenders you just named most are known for there attacking not defending..

okay you have seen him destory teams.. ive seen him not get involved in the big games and do nothing.. no one is rite just opinions my friend so shall we leave it there ?.

he scored two goals against Roma on Saturday,there,a big game!

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 02:24 PM
Serie A has improved over the last year and a half,no league will ever match what Serie A had in the nineties with the 7 sisters(juventus,Inter,AC,Lazio,Parma,Roma)

EPL people hate Ibrahimovic,its the anti-Serie A propaganda from the english media.

You people are all a bunch of idiots who know nothing about football,a real expert would have put Emile Heskey in their World XI!
And Massimo Taibi,Adrian Mutu,Johne Evans,Felipe Melo,Momo Sissokho and Marcelo at Left back.

^^ LOL " you people are a bunch of idiots " do you mean the english ?.

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:25 PM
im here too hear opinions and chat about things in general but mostly wrestling.. not an argument,

you say ivanovic is just as good as silva i agree.. but invanovic is not world class thats my point, silva is good yh he is.. but who's he facing in the italian leage del piero ?. a legend but sumone who is past it..i think if he was in a better league he would be found out, just like david luiz does at chelsea, brazillans are not the best defenders man, im saying he is not world class imo..

what i meant was it's easy too just bring up stats.. yh he has a decent scoring record, but so many strikers do, van nistelrooy still has a good goal scoring record but aint no one going too have him in a world xi now.. stats are misleading if you choose too look at them and then judge sumone bye how good they are bye them then thats up2 you.. wen ive seen him he aint deliverd, and like i said barca sold him for reason ini..

most Brazillian teams use wing-backs,so its what they grow up to.

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:29 PM
^^ LOL " you people are a bunch of idiots " do you mean the english ?.

all of us.How could we forget Heskey and Mutu,we are all amateur football fans.Massimo Taibi is the best Ilalian goalkeeper of his generation.Johne Evans is the greatest defender Britain has ever produced,Momo Siisoko should play for Bercelona,Marcelo is the best Brazillian footballer ever!

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 02:29 PM
he scored two goals against Roma on Saturday,there,a big game!

Really ??.. well lets give him the ballon d'or now then shall we ?.

he's alrite , not world class just my opinion man calm down..

and about the brazillian wing backs i know.. im portuguese our rb's and lb's are the same , but belive me aint many known for there defending but there attacking !!

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:33 PM
To counter the anti-Seria A guys:

Wesley Sneijder definately deserves to be in a World Xi. I shouldn't need to explain why.

Zlatan Ibrahimovich overrated? 35 goals in 75 for Ajax, 23 goals in 63 for Juventus, 57 goals in 88 for Inter, 16 in 29 for Barca, and 18 (and counting) in 34 (and counting) for Milan. I think those stats say otherwise.

Thiago Silva is one of the best centre backs in the world right now. In the premiership, only Vidic IMO is better than him. Lucio and Walter Samuel are 2 other centre backs that deserves to be in a World Xi.

The part I find amazing is that everyone sais Serie A is in decline,which is a fair comment,BUT since the match-fixing scandal(WHICH CAUSED THE TRANSITION) of 2006,Italy has won 1 world cup,2 champions League's.Only SPain have achieved more.

Wade Barrett 1979
10-31-2011, 02:34 PM
Really ??.. well lets give him the ballon d'or now then shall we ?.

he's alrite , not world class just my opinion man calm down..

and about the brazillian wing backs i know.. im portuguese our rb's and lb's are the same , but belive me aint many known for there defending but there attacking !!

He'll go easy on you now he knows you're Portuguese! When he saw your location and thought you were English, he'd keep arguing with you!

Tommy Thunder
10-31-2011, 02:35 PM
mate we could go on for ages.. but the brazillian defenders you just named most are known for there attacking not defending..

okay you have seen him destory teams.. ive seen him not get involved in the big games and do nothing.. no one is rite just opinions my friend so shall we leave it there ?.

If those defenders are better known for their attacking, would you say that Alves and Maicon aren't worthy of consideration for a place in a World Xi side? And would you also say Cafu and Carlos aren't worthy of being in an all time Xi? Admittedly they are fantastic attackers, but by no means are they any slouches defensively either.

Ibrahimovich has scored goals wherever he's been. Barca sold him after just 2 seasons because of his age IMO. He was there to replace Etoo (a near impossible task for any striker), Messi was well on his way to becoming the player he is today, and they had their eye on David Villa. Couple that with the fact that he wasn't getting along with Pep, he was never going to stay there long.
Berbatov has a reputation of being lazy, like Zlatan, but he's still got a very impressive goalscoring record. Ibrahimovic's tally is even better than Berba's. So for me, he's more than worthy of consideration for a World Xi side at least.

Steve Austin
10-31-2011, 02:36 PM
Ten out of ten.I think because Thiago Silva plays for AC milan,who have a tradition of world class defenders,he is taken for granted.

BARCELONA WANTED THIAGO SILVA,a statement that speaks for itself.

wow,nobody picked Torres in their world XI,almost unthinkable 2 years ago.

Neymar anyone? Needs to play in Europe.

I almost picked Torres but I think Suarez and Rooney are better. He's on my bench though.

Juvenile Junkie
10-31-2011, 02:36 PM
Really ??.. well lets give him the ballon d'or now then shall we ?.

he's alrite , not world class just my opinion man calm down..

and about the brazillian wing backs i know.. im portuguese our rb's and lb's are the same , but belive me aint many known for there defending but there attacking !!

Yes,thats why Thiago Silva is rated highly,a Brazillian who can defend.Plus he plays with guys like Nesta and Zambrotta,he might learn a trick or two.Mauro Tassotti is AC Milan's backline coach,a man who was part of football's greatest ever backline.Anybody who disputes that is an idiot.No apologies!

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 02:37 PM
He'll go easy on you now he knows you're Portuguese! When he saw your location and thought you were English, he'd keep arguing with you!

yeh man i did wonder about that LOL

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 02:38 PM
Yes,thats why Thiago Silva is rated highly,a Brazillian who can defend.Plus he plays with guys like Nesta and Zambrotta,he might learn a trick or two.Mauro Tassotti is AC Milan's backline coach,a man who was part of football's greatest ever backline.Anybody who disputes that is an idiot.No apologies!

Okay im an idiot then :D and your amazing well done..

Steve Austin
10-31-2011, 02:39 PM
haha yh good guess, im a united fan :) what abour yourself ?.

I'm a Liverpool fan and I'm just gonna say Suarez is one of the best players in the world end of. ;)

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 02:44 PM
I'm a Liverpool fan and I'm just gonna say Suarez is one of the best players in the world end of. ;)

haha well im gunner say suarez is a very good player, i didnt think he would be able too do what torres did for you.. but looks like he is going to be a very good player :) didnt expect that from a united fan did you ;)

Wade Barrett 1979
10-31-2011, 02:44 PM
I'm a Liverpool fan and I'm just gonna say Suarez is one of the best players in the world end of. ;)

Seconded! :D

Steve Austin
10-31-2011, 02:46 PM
haha well im gunner say suarez is a very good player, i didnt think he would be able too do what torres did for you.. but looks like he is going to be a very good player :) didnt expect that from a united fan did you ;)

Haha I really didn't then again most of my friends are Utd fans and unless you're rated amazing on FIFA or play for Man Utd then you're not very good in their eyes.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 02:47 PM
If those defenders are better known for their attacking, would you say that Alves and Maicon aren't worthy of consideration for a place in a World Xi side? And would you also say Cafu and Carlos aren't worthy of being in an all time Xi? Admittedly they are fantastic attackers, but by no means are they any slouches defensively either.

Ibrahimovich has scored goals wherever he's been. Barca sold him after just 2 seasons because of his age IMO. He was there to replace Etoo (a near impossible task for any striker), Messi was well on his way to becoming the player he is today, and they had their eye on David Villa. Couple that with the fact that he wasn't getting along with Pep, he was never going to stay there long.
Berbatov has a reputation of being lazy, like Zlatan, but he's still got a very impressive goalscoring record. Ibrahimovic's tally is even better than Berba's. So for me, he's more than worthy of consideration for a World Xi side at least.

Fair points man, and i olny picked them because in portugal we play attacking , if it was for defending i probz would have gone with an italian defeder like baresi and co..
anywaiz man just opinions like i said..

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 02:48 PM
Haha I really didn't then again most of my friends are Utd fans and unless you're rated amazing on FIFA or play for Man Utd then you're not very good in their eyes.

haha really ?. i try my best too be unbiased :)

Steve Austin
10-31-2011, 02:56 PM
haha really ?. i try my best too be unbiased :)

Yeah, it's not just the Man Utd fans, most people I know think they have to say everything about the team they support is amazing and everything about other teams is crap, very annoying. I try to unbiased because I love football and appreciate any great player regardless of what team they play for. It may seem like I am being a little biased towards Suarez but I'd be saying the same thing if he was playing like this at any team as competetive as the Prem. BTW is Uk initials for a place in Portugal or are your Portugeise and living in the UK? (hopefully it doesnt make me sound stupid haha)

THE HEARTBREAK KID
10-31-2011, 03:17 PM
Yeah, it's not just the Man Utd fans, most people I know think they have to say everything about the team they support is amazing and everything about other teams is crap, very annoying. I try to unbiased because I love football and appreciate any great player regardless of what team they play for. It may seem like I am being a little biased towards Suarez but I'd be saying the same thing if he was playing like this at any team as competetive as the Prem. BTW is Uk initials for a place in Portugal or are your Portugeise and living in the UK? (hopefully it doesnt make me sound stupid haha)

thats fair enough man, and i was born in portugal.. but moved too wales when i was younger so the UK stands for the UK as you know it LOL my dads welsh and my mums portuguese :) as a liverpool fan what are your feelings on gerrard and these injurys he seems too be picking up alot ?. such a great player but seems like he's struggling a bit with staying fit.. ( well untill it's time too play united which in that case he is fit and always seems too score LOL =( )

Steve Austin
10-31-2011, 03:22 PM
thats fair enough man, and i was born in portugal.. but moved too wales when i was younger so the UK stands for the UK as you know it LOL my dads welsh and my mums portuguese :) as a liverpool fan what are your feelings on gerrard and these injurys he seems too be picking up alot ?. such a great player but seems like he's struggling a bit with staying fit.. ( well untill it's time too play united which in that case he is fit and always seems too score LOL =( )

Ah fair play. Obviously I'm disappointed by I'm glad it's not the groin again which really is the plus side of his injury. Of course I want Gerrard fit and playing but I enjoy watching them without Gerrard sometimes, sometimes they rely on him too much and it frustrates me because they are better than that but of course he is world class and any team would miss him when injured. I've heard it's an ankle infection and he could be out for 6 weeks so should be fit to score when they play Man Utd ;) Oh and thanks for the friend request.

pauadrian
10-31-2011, 09:44 PM
casillas
ramos
terry
alves
ronaldo
ozil
mata
fabregas
rooney
messi
torres for the LOLs

mexican XI
talavera
marquez
salcido
reynoso
guardado
dos santos
barrera
marco fabian
vela
hernandez
bravo

Juvenile Junkie
11-01-2011, 01:01 AM
ZLatan Ibrahimovic is overrated,Samuel Etoo is useless,but:

Robin Van Persie,Kolarov,Nasri,Luis Suarez are world XI Players,typical Premfacers!No knowledge of football outside the EPL

No players from Serie A are good enough for a World XI,ya sure,keep telling yourselves that.And since 1966,all the World cup losses where fixed too.

Juvenile Junkie
11-01-2011, 01:04 AM
fabregas



You can't put fabregas in your World XI.he is what the EPL fan boys would consider as evil for having the audacity to leave the EPL,God's gift to earth,for that no good La Liga.

EPL fans saying La Liga is overrated,football's biggest irony!

Juvenile Junkie
11-01-2011, 05:06 AM
Only 3 EPL players in the Ballon D'or list. Ya so the EPL is not as vastly superior to la Liga and Serie A as some of you thought,In your Face!

But I'm usre you will rant that FIFA is corrupt or some other gibberish.

Juvenile Junkie
11-01-2011, 05:08 AM
My new World XI: The ballon D'or nominees

Eric Abidal (France)
Sergio Aguero (Argentina)
Karim Benzema (France)
Iker Casillas (Spain)
Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal)
Dani Alves (Brazil)
Samuel Eto'o (Cameroon)
Cesc Fabregas (Spain)
Diego Forlan (Uruguay)
Andres Iniesta (Spain)
Lionel Messi (Argentina)
Thomas Muller (Germany)
Nani (Portugal)
Neymar (Brazil)
Mesut Oezil (Germany)
Gerard Pique (Spain)
Wayne Rooney (England)
Bastian Schweinsteiger (Germany)
Wesley Sneijder (Netherlands)
Luis Suarez (Uruguay)
David Villa (Spain)
Xabi Alonso (Spain)
Xavi (Spain)

wow,a goalkeeper made it.I wonder if a Goalkeeper will ever wint he award.Even defenders winning it are a rarity.

Steve Austin
11-01-2011, 07:22 AM
Only 3 EPL players in the Ballon D'or list. Ya so the EPL is not as vastly superior to la Liga and Serie A as some of you thought,In your Face!

But I'm usre you will rant that FIFA is corrupt or some other gibberish.

You need to calm the fu*k down! If you notice when every else comments they say IMO which means in my opinion. It doesn't mean what the best team in the world is or what everyones team should be it's what each person thinks, thats why this thread is called Your World Xi. And if anyone is biased it's you, you moan and complain about everything in the BPL but if it happens in Italy or Spain you think its the best thing ever.


Suarez is better than Ibrahimovic, deal with it! The world cup isn't fixed, Fabregas is amazing put I think there are better players which is why he doesn't get into my team. You don't like BPL for some reason! I've got nothing against any other leagues, anytime I see you comment you're slating the prem and then you say BPL fans are biased.

Wade Barrett 1979
11-01-2011, 08:54 AM
Only 3 EPL players in the Ballon D'or list. Ya so the EPL is not as vastly superior to la Liga and Serie A as some of you thought,In your Face!

But I'm usre you will rant that FIFA is corrupt or some other gibberish.

Ha! You go girlfriend! Talk to the hand, 'cause the face it ain't listening! :D

Wade Barrett 1979
11-01-2011, 08:56 AM
ZLatan Ibrahimovic is overrated,Samuel Etoo is useless,but:

Robin Van Persie,Kolarov,Nasri,Luis Suarez are world XI Players,typical Premfacers!No knowledge of football outside the EPL

No players from Serie A are good enough for a World XI,ya sure,keep telling yourselves that.And since 1966,all the World cup losses where fixed too.

Ha! The only thing more corrupt than Italian football, is the countries President!

Juvenile Junkie
11-01-2011, 09:15 AM
You need to calm the fu*k down! If you notice when every else comments they say IMO which means in my opinion. It doesn't mean what the best team in the world is or what everyones team should be it's what each person thinks, thats why this thread is called Your World Xi. And if anyone is biased it's you, you moan and complain about everything in the BPL but if it happens in Italy or Spain you think its the best thing ever.


Suarez is better than Ibrahimovic, deal with it! The world cup isn't fixed, Fabregas is amazing put I think there are better players which is why he doesn't get into my team. You don't like BPL for some reason! I've got nothing against any other leagues, anytime I see you comment you're slating the prem and then you say BPL fans are biased.


most EPL fans are.YOu are not,you call it like you see it,to take a quote from Die Hard 2:

your an asshole,but your my type of asshole

Juvenile Junkie
11-01-2011, 09:18 AM
Ha! The only thing more corrupt than Italian football, is the countries President!

I told that to all the Italians I know,I don't think its gonna please them,but I thought that was funny.

p.s. its Prime Minister.

Tommy Thunder
11-01-2011, 09:21 AM
I told that to all the Italians I know,I don't think its gonna please them,but I thought that was funny.

p.s. its Prime Minister.

Funny thing about that statement though is that it's true!

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-01-2011, 10:00 AM
ha! You go girlfriend! Talk to the hand, 'cause the face it ain't listening! :d

^^^ lol :D

here is a question for you.. how many italians.. manager or players made the ballon D'or list ?.

two players from the italian league made the list.. sneijder ( should be there.. world class imo ) and Forlan ( who is on that list because of what he did with athletico madrid and uruguay imo )

everyone here had an opinion.. and said IMO !! but you.. you seem too want to defend the italian league and tell us all how great it is.. well it's not great , it rubbish in fact..

BTW !! IMO !! :D

Wade Barrett 1979
11-01-2011, 11:14 AM
I told that to all the Italians I know,I don't think its gonna please them,but I thought that was funny.

p.s. its Prime Minister.

Sorry, I was thinking about the French!! Once you've seen one corrupt politician, you've seen them all! :p

Juvenile Junkie
11-01-2011, 12:42 PM
Sorry, I was thinking about the French!! Once you've seen one corrupt politician, you've seen them all! :p

Its a good thing FIFA are not based in Italy............................................. ......or they would be corrupt.

Wade Barrett 1979
11-01-2011, 01:05 PM
Its a good thing FIFA are not based in
Italy............................................. ......or they would be corrupt.

FIFA has corruption on levels, governments could only dream of!!

Juvenile Junkie
11-01-2011, 01:48 PM
nobody mentioned Falcao or Hamsik.....

pauadrian
11-01-2011, 02:02 PM
You can't put fabregas in your World XI.he is what the EPL fan boys would consider as evil for having the audacity to leave the EPL,God's gift to earth,for that no good La Liga.

EPL fans saying La Liga is overrated,football's biggest irony!

i watch more bpl than bbva so i just shut your mouth

Automatic
11-01-2011, 02:41 PM
It must be noted that I haven't been really into football once I discovered wrestling.
I play 4-3-3, with wingers, with the best players for this system.

GK: Neuer, because VDS retired.
DL: Cole
DC: Pique
DC : Vidic
DR: Dani Alves
DM: Khedira
CM: Xavi
CM: Sneijder
RWF: Ronaldo( not #1 choice, but best option I could think of, would be to egotistical to just give assists)
LWF: Robben
CF: Huntelaar ( with a system with 2 wingers that provide him with enough balls in the box, this guy is the best, because he is the absolute best striker in the world in the box, when you go outside of the box with him, you will get in trouble)


That's it I guess.
Bench: Stekelenburg, Lahm, Iniesta, Vermaelen, Zlatan, Ribery, De Rossi.

Steve Austin
11-01-2011, 02:51 PM
nobody mentioned Falcao or Hamsik.....

Hamsik is overrated...

Wade Barrett 1979
11-01-2011, 03:29 PM
It must be noted that I haven't been really into football once I discovered wrestling.
I play 4-3-3, with wingers, with the best players for this system.

GK: Neuer, because VDS retired.
DL: Cole
DC: Pique
DC : Vidic
DR: Dani Alves
DM: Khedira
CM: Xavi
CM: Sneijder
RWF: Ronaldo( not #1 choice, but best option I could think of, would be to egotistical to just give assists)
LWF: Robben
CF: Huntelaar ( with a system with 2 wingers that provide him with enough balls in the box, this guy is the best, because he is the absolute best striker in the world in the box, when you go outside of the box with him, you will get in trouble)


That's it I guess.
Bench: Stekelenburg, Lahm, Iniesta, Vermaelen, Zlatan, Ribery, De Rossi.

Interesting team. I especially like Khedira!

I absolutely love wrestling but nothing could overtake my love of footy! :)

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-01-2011, 04:32 PM
nobody mentioned Falcao or Hamsik.....

Falcao is good, My second team is Porto.. so i seen alot of him theres and he's top finisher, but nowhere near world class yet but we will see in the future
hamsik.. aint really seen much of him tbh, olny what ive read and been told , he's always good on the football managers or fifa's but yh aint really seen him play..

btw anyone play football manager ?.

CGBigMan
11-01-2011, 04:37 PM
Falcao is good, My second team is Porto.. so i seen alot of him theres and he's top finisher, but nowhere near world class yet but we will see in the future
hamsik.. aint really seen much of him tbh, olny what ive read and been told , he's always good on the football managers or fifa's but yh aint really seen him play..

btw anyone play football manager ?.

i played last years a lot

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-01-2011, 04:45 PM
i played last years a lot

thats cool , didnt bother with this years then ?. tbh aint really alot of changes more just the updates of players and that..

CGBigMan
11-01-2011, 04:48 PM
thats cool , didnt bother with this years then ?. tbh aint really alot of changes more just the updates of players and that..

dont have the money right now
sadly school doenst provide it
and i just preordered mw3
and bought concert ttickets

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-01-2011, 04:53 PM
Fair enough then mate :) like i said not many changes on this one tho.. but still a good game as always,

Steve Austin
11-01-2011, 04:55 PM
I will be getting FM 12 soon, I love FM. Infact if you take a look there is an FM thread :)

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-01-2011, 04:56 PM
I will be getting FM 12 soon, I love FM. Infact if you take a look there is an FM thread :)

ohh really didnt notice man , ill check that out now thanks :) and yh same im a big fan of the FM games

Steve Austin
11-01-2011, 05:13 PM
ohh really didnt notice man , ill check that out now thanks :) and yh same im a big fan of the FM games

No problem, it died out a bit because as you probably know people go through a phase of playing it every day and then not playing it for a while.

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?8649-Football-Manager There's a link for ya ;)

Wade Barrett 1979
11-01-2011, 05:35 PM
Falcao is good, My second team is Porto.. so i seen alot of him theres and he's top finisher, but nowhere near world class yet but we will see in the future
hamsik.. aint really seen much of him tbh, olny what ive read and been told , he's always good on the football managers or fifa's but yh aint really seen him play..

btw anyone play football manager ?.

Yup, I'm a whore to it! I buy the new one every year and I download everything for it! Facepacks, Logos, Strips EVERYTHING! :p (although I'm not as bas as Robbie Fowler, I've never worn a suit to play the F.A. Cup final, in my house :D)

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-01-2011, 07:40 PM
No problem, it died out a bit because as you probably know people go through a phase of playing it every day and then not playing it for a while.

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?8649-Football-Manager There's a link for ya ;)

Nice1 for the link man , and yh i no that feeling somtimes the game can drive you crazyy but you cant help going back too it LOL

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-01-2011, 07:44 PM
Yup, I'm a whore to it! I buy the new one every year and I download everything for it! Facepacks, Logos, Strips EVERYTHING! :p (although I'm not as bas as Robbie Fowler, I've never worn a suit to play the F.A. Cup final, in my house :D)

haha im the same man , i put so many hours into the game , ive literally lost girlfriends at times because of this game haha, they just dont seem too understand that taking your team too the champions league final is more important then them somtimes = P haha , who you playing as on yours ?. liverpool ?.

Wade Barrett 1979
11-01-2011, 07:59 PM
haha im the same man , i put so many hours into the game , ive literally lost girlfriends at times because of this game haha, they just dont seem too understand that taking your team too the champions league final is more important then them somtimes = P haha , who you playing as on yours ?. liverpool ?.

I tend to have a few games on the go simultaneously!

I'm Playing as Liverpool, Bayern Munich, West Brom and Walsall! :p

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-01-2011, 10:12 PM
I tend to have a few games on the go simultaneously!

I'm Playing as Liverpool, Bayern Munich, West Brom and Walsall! :p

LOL that must take you ages , i normally have one were i go a good team , and then one were i normally go a lower team , aint decided on a lower team yet tho,

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 02:59 AM
Hamsik is overrated...

ofcourse,he doesn't play in England.

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 03:01 AM
Javier Pastore?

Edinson Cavani?

Carvalho?

Ronaldinho?

CGBigMan
11-02-2011, 05:07 AM
Javier Pastore?

Edinson Cavani?

Carvalho?

Ronaldinho?

I like Pastore i was surprised he went to france but he should do well

Cavanis a beast upfront especially when partnered with Lavezzi

A bit too old for me but he still has his gopod traits

Again a bit past it but he is still one of the most skillfull performers today

Steve Austin
11-02-2011, 05:39 AM
ofcourse,he doesn't play in England.

Thats not why, he is overrated and you know it.

Pastore is good, should of went to a better league though, Cavani is brilliant, Ronaldinho is past it but I still like him and if thats Ricardo Carvalho then he's past it and still overrated.

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 05:42 AM
I like Pastore i was surprised he went to france but he should do well



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PSG were bought over buy a consortium from the middle east.CLubs from Portugal,Russia,Ukraine,France have been bought over,so all the top players won't be playing in the big 4 leagues anymore.

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 05:45 AM
Ricardo Carvalho then he's past it and still overrated.

best centre-back Chelsea have had in 20 years,6 months,2 weeks,4 days,11 minutes and 56 seconds!

does it have anyhing to do with the fact he is a porra and they K.O.'d England in 2004 and '06?

Tommy Thunder
11-02-2011, 05:49 AM
ofcourse,he doesn't play in England.

No, he's just not a world class player. He's not good enough for Manchester United, Chelsea, City.



Javier Pastore?

Edinson Cavani?

Carvalho?

Ronaldinho?

Pastore - Jury's still out for me. He's still young, and developing. He has the makings of a very good player, although is the French league reall where you want to be to further your career?

Cavani - Excellent player. With the way he's banging in goals, expect to see him at a big club within the next couple of seasons.

Carvalho - At 33, he's edging past it for me. He's still an excellent defender, but his best days are behind him.

Ronaldinho - Still a very good player, but again, you get the feeling his best days are gone. Otherwise, why isn't he still playing for a big club in Europe.

Wade Barrett 1979
11-02-2011, 05:51 AM
best centre-back Chelsea have had in 20 years,6 months,2 weeks,4 days,11 minutes and 56 seconds!

does it have anyhing to do with the fact he is a porra and they K.O.'d England in 2004 and '06?

No, it's to do with the fact he's overrated!

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 05:51 AM
Samuel Eto'o??? People have forgotten about him.Africa's greatest ever player!!

One of only few players to have achieved the triple crown of scoring in La Liga,Serie A and the Premier League (russian one)

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 05:53 AM
No, it's to do with the fact he's overrated!

But he is a solid and reliable centre-back!!!

I am noticing a trend in this thread with ex-EPL players,hmmm

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 05:55 AM
Adrian Mutu?............................................. ......................................SNIFF....... ........................................

Wade Barrett 1979
11-02-2011, 05:56 AM
But he is a solid and reliable centre-back!!!

I am noticing a trend in this thread with ex-EPL players,hmmm

I think you may be imagining this trend, due to your hatred of the EPL!

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 06:00 AM
Pastore - h is the French league reall where you want to be to further your career?

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Well PSG will be in the uCL next season,with a low seeding,so he might have 4 group games against 2 top clubs to show his worth.

Hopefully Malaga,Sporting Lisbon,Anzhi Mackhachkala join them too,you can never have too many rich,middle-eastern owned clubs in the UCL.Who needs AC Milan and Barcelona anyways,right?

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 06:03 AM
I think you may be imagining this trend, due to your hatred of the EPL!

I do not hate the EPL,and neither do the 11 voices in my head!

Tommy Thunder
11-02-2011, 06:05 AM
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Well PSG will be in the uCL next season,with a low seeding,so he might have 4 group games against 2 top clubs to show his worth.

Hopefully Malaga,Sporting Lisbon,Anzhi Mackhachkala join them too,you can never have too many rich,middle-eastern owned clubs in the UCL.Who needs AC Milan and Barcelona anyways,right?

Still, if you want to become the best, and develop your full potential, you want too go to a big club that will also pay you handsomely. PSG will give you the £££ but the French league won't make you the best player in the world.

Tommy Thunder
11-02-2011, 06:06 AM
No, it's to do with the fact he's overrated!

Sorry, are you seriously arguing that Ricardo Carvalho was/is overrated?

LMAO

CGBigMan
11-02-2011, 06:06 AM
Still, if you want to become the best, and develop your full potential, you want too go to a big club that will also pay you handsomely. PSG will give you the £££ but the French league won't make you the best player in the world.

Thats the main reason Hazard will leave Lille in january or the summer

Wade Barrett 1979
11-02-2011, 06:22 AM
Sorry, are you seriously arguing that Ricardo Carvalho was/is overrated?

LMAO

I appreciate what he's done. This one is just purely down to personal opinion, never rated him! I'm a bit stubborn with certain things in football! If I believe someone to be overrated, it's a virtual impossibilty to change my mind!

Tommy Thunder
11-02-2011, 06:25 AM
I appreciate what he's done. This one is just purely down to personal opinion, never rated him! I'm a bit stubborn with certain things in football! If I believe someone to be overrated, it's a virtual impossibilty to change my mind!

No doubt in my mind Carvalho is up there with the best defenders of the last 10 years.
Hell, he's the reason Terry is so overrated! Carvalho did a good job of making him look like the best defender ever when he was at Chelsea. I'd take Carvalho in my team ahead of Terry any day.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-02-2011, 10:38 AM
Javier Pastore?

Edinson Cavani?

Carvalho?

Ronaldinho?

Pastore : looks a good player.. i was also surprised he went too P.S.G. but then again money talks,
Cavani : doing well for napoli , but for me average
carvalho : legend in my eyes , but showing signs he's past his best ,
ronaldinho : one of my all time fave, but also like most brazillians has lost his best form,

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-02-2011, 10:41 AM
But he is a solid and reliable centre-back!!!

I am noticing a trend in this thread with ex-EPL players,hmmm


i think your noticing what ever you want too notice mate , we are all noticing that everyone else is just giving an opinion while you my friend are slating the english league any chance you can..

Steve Austin
11-02-2011, 10:56 AM
i think your noticing what ever you want too notice mate , we are all noticing that everyone else is just giving an opinion while you my friend are slating the english league any chance you can..

Don't even try, one of my favourite members (Eve's Arse NO.1) when down the same road as you and it kept on going. For some reason he hates everything about English football and it's leagues and also thinks any time someone says something good about the BPL or something bad about another league that they're being biast. BTW I'm saying Carvalho has been overrated for a few years. Not because he left England but because he's losing his ability. I;m not biased towards BPL I say what I think no matter what league or team, Messi is the best players ever, there you go, he doesn't play in England. If anyone is biased it's double J - Austin out.

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-02-2011, 11:17 AM
Don't even try, one of my favourite members (Eve's Arse NO.1) when down the same road as you and it kept on going. For some reason he hates everything about English football and it's leagues and also thinks any time someone says something good about the BPL or something bad about another league that they're being biast. BTW I'm saying Carvalho has been overrated for a few years. Not because he left England but because he's losing his ability. I;m not biased towards BPL I say what I think no matter what league or team, Messi is the best players ever, there you go, he doesn't play in England. If anyone is biased it's double J - Austin out.

fair enough man.. i really dont know were he is getting that we are all biased and stuff and then just shouting out random players names LOL

Steve Austin
11-02-2011, 11:20 AM
fair enough man.. i really dont know were he is getting that we are all biased and stuff and then just shouting out random players names LOL

Haha I know, it's kind of his thing.

CGBigMan
11-02-2011, 11:23 AM
if i were being biased i would say east fife are the most underrated team today
in reality they suck

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 01:00 PM
No doubt in my mind Carvalho is up there with the best defenders of the last 10 years.
Hell, he's the reason Terry is so overrated! Carvalho did a good job of making him look like the best defender ever when he was at Chelsea. I'd take Carvalho in my team ahead of Terry any day.

Carvalho and Makalele made Terry look good,thats why at Intenational level,Terry is only famous for losing the captain's armband.

Juvenile Junkie
11-02-2011, 01:02 PM
We all are a bunch of idiots.WE all forgot the best player for our World XI's.A man who has done things that very few can do,not even Messi or Ronaldo have done what this man has done:




CARLOS TEVeZ!!!!

Steve Austin
11-02-2011, 01:19 PM
I love Makelele!!!!!!!

THE HEARTBREAK KID
11-02-2011, 03:41 PM
We all are a bunch of idiots.WE all forgot the best player for our World XI's.A man who has done things that very few can do,not even Messi or Ronaldo have done what this man has done:

CARLOS TEVeZ!!!!

by " a man who has done things that very few can do " do you mean , refuse too play or warm up yet still think he has done nothing wrong ?.

tevez is a good player no doubt, he's crazy tho.. nowhere near ronaldo or messi standard but i dont think anyone else is tbh..

Juvenile Junkie
11-03-2011, 10:59 AM
by " a man who has done things that very few can do " do you mean , refuse too play or warm up yet still think he has done nothing wrong ?.



Yes.You might say the guy is a visionary,like the guy who invented T20 cricket.