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Hannah
10-12-2010, 08:02 PM
Since I'm a newbie, A.K.A Noob on this whole EWN board. Am I allowed to say that?? Anyways, I just wanna say two words: Hi :). But I really wanted to post something over the woman's wrestling, mostly over the DIVA's division.

As we all know since Trish Stratus and Lita left, things have went down hill. That's just extremely sad for me to say, cause I actually enjoyed watching them years ago, but now it's just making me feel disrespected. They now get what? five minutes of air time? and two minutes of that are entrances? I really do want to see the DIVA division be revived, but there's and I quote "No Chance In Hell" right?

IMO, I think they either just need to go away with the DIVA division, cause 1) that's what they're doing, just killing it away, slowly but surely and 2) I won't feel so humiliated that girls are only meant to be focused on as eye candy and not show case any talent.

Or actually focus a little more on the diva's. Don't they usually have another five minute match that is completely just eh? why not just ex that out, and give the girls more air time? Of course, that might be painful cause half of them cut just horrid promos (I love Natayla, but was it me or was her promo on RAW just painful?) The reason why the audience is dead half the time is cause we don't see any character, we see more character from Laycool and Vickie Guerrero and that's why we boo them, and that's not just towards females, but males too. To me, wrestling should be something you should involved in, get out ya seat, on ya feet, boo or cheer, how am I supposed to like or dislike you when I don't know sheet about your on-air personality?

I actually turned to TNA to watch the Knockouts, but recently, they just became similar to the DIVAS, get 5 minute air time, but they actually show their character, just not the athletic ability anymore. The Knockouts actually remind me of the male division on RAW, you got two-four people going for the gold, always the same people. What about Hamada? Or Taylor Wilde? (I think she's out with an injury, but it wouldn't matter anyways.) I don't know who else is involved with the Knockouts.

Well, anyways, that's it I think. Horrible discussion, my former English teacher would be so ashamed...so so ashamed.

Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 08:07 PM
You're right that the TNA Knockouts division is very limited. With the inclusion of Mickie it will only become more exclusive. It'll give the division more air time though, possibly. As for the Diva division, it's a horrible mess. The WWE only has two female wreslters, in Natalyia and Gail Kim. The latter doesn't even get TV time any more. I think unifying the titles was the right idea because now the division means something to both shows, but the Women's belt should be the one that stands, without it it kinda spits in the face of all the legendary females before.

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 09:08 PM
There is actually a thread on Women's wrestling that I wrote! xD

Necroyeti
10-12-2010, 09:09 PM
I agree with both posts. The last really good divas match I remember in WWE was Trish Stratus vs. Mickie James at Wrestlemania 22. I do hope these NXT rookies will bring something new to the table once their season is over, but I won't be holding my breath.

Semi-off topic: I'd like to share not only my favourite women's wrestling match ever, but one of my favourite matches PERIOD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBW-Nwxwqps
(don't be put off by the barbed wire ropes... it's not a garbage wrestling spotfest)

Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 09:11 PM
The NXT rookies won't bring anything other than bad matches and trashy promos. Thanks for the video, I'll add that one to my avourites and watch it tomorrow. I'll let you know what I think:p

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 09:11 PM
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/community/showthread.php?652-Women-s-wrestling

You don't have to respond to this thread but you can get some ideas from this.

I watch women's wrestling in both TNA and WWE but its not as good as it was before....

Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 09:12 PM
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I watch women's wrestling in both TNA and WWE but its not as good as it was before....

Under-statement of the year :D

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 09:15 PM
Under-statement of the year :D

Yeah.

WWE around the 1999-2003(guesstimating) had great women's wrestling. Now is eye candy botching suplexes or try to do martial arts.

IPEEINTHESHOWER
10-12-2010, 09:17 PM
Please allow me to give my infinite wisdom on this matter. Hannah I like your writing style, I just hope your not pushing the 300 pound mark, but that's for another day. Where was I, oh yes, the Diva's division. I like laycool although the beautiful people (oh how I love velvet) have a right to be pissed at the imitation I think they are entertaining. Natayla is not my cup of tea but she is good in the ring, just dont let her have a mic EVER. Melina is great in the ring but I think she has pissed off upper management one to many times. Eve looks like a man, so she is not on my list. I like Beth Phoenix but she gets injured all the time. As for the bella's a bowling ball is more entertaining than those two. Thats about it. I hope you become a SHOWERHEAD in the future and look forward from hearing about your views and especially your height and weight measurements. U MAD?? (its all in good fun, please dont take my comments to heart)

From your new friend that wants to use your shower

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Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 09:23 PM
Oh, we all love Velvet. I wouldn't say Melina is "great" in the ring, but she's certainly better than most of the Divas at the moment, despite the fact she botches 1 in every 10 moves (the current average for the NXT roster is 1 out of 1). If there's any justice, nex feud in WWE (after the Natalya/Laycool feud) will be with Natalya and Gail Kim, assuming Natalya wins at Bragging Rights

Freder
10-12-2010, 09:30 PM
The Knockouts lost most of their steam when they began totally focusing on the Beautiful People feud. Yes it is good, but where is the rest of the division? Awesome Kong, ODB, Alissa Flash, Roxxi were all good and entertaining and are gone. Daffney is very good and where is she? Did they release her? Some clown named Rosie Lottalove gets a tryout match, botches a move in it and injures her (right after she got a title match), then gets hired. Wow who made that decision? Fortunately they fired Rosie, but Daffney has vanished. Hamada is excellent and could be a major player.

It wasn't that long ago that they started the tag team knockout division because they had so many great females. Now the title is a joke since they have fewer teams than the WWE men's tag team division.

By the way... people talk about dream matches, how about nightmare matches. Knockout-Diva title match between Cody Deaner and Santina Marella

Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 09:38 PM
Nightmare matches? Any involving Lacey Von Erich. *shudders*

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 09:43 PM
As I said.....TNA Knockouts division and WWE womens division was entertaining but that was back then. Now its horrible.

Gail Kim, Lita, Trish, Victoria, ODB, Daffney, Roxxi, Awesome Kong, Beth etc= Great Womens Wrestlers

(etc to add in more greats)

Necroyeti
10-12-2010, 09:43 PM
Nightmare match - Jenna Morasca vs. Sharmell

Oh wait, that already happened.

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 09:48 PM
Nightmare Match: Stephanie McMahon vs paper bag

Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 09:54 PM
Nightmare Match: Stephanie McMahon vs paper bag

The paper bag's career might get tarnished if it puts Steph over..

Nanisha
10-12-2010, 09:56 PM
Hannah, my fellow "noob!" ahh, i digress. I agree with all of you, the women's division in both TNA and WWE have definitely taken a dramatic turn for the worst, which is depressing especially for me because when I was younger up to about a year ago (a little late huh?) I always made sure to catch the women's wrestling match (matches when TNA had let the Knockouts have more time). But now I could care less until someone steps up to better both divisions.

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 09:58 PM
The paper bag's career might get tarnished if it puts Steph over..

She can't wrestle out of a paper bag even if her career,or life, depended on it.

Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 10:02 PM
She can't wrestle out of a paper bag even if her career,or life, depended on it.

Ha. How long did she hold the women's belt without even retaining it, three months wasnt it?

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 10:10 PM
Ha. How long did she hold the women's belt without even retaining it, three months wasnt it?

I don't know.....all I know is that she is a no.....hell I forgot how she even BECAME CHAMP!

Necroyeti
10-12-2010, 10:12 PM
I don't know.....all I know is that she is a no.....hell I forgot how she even BECAME CHAMP!
Goldberg speared her through a cage, remember?

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 10:14 PM
goldberg speared her through a cage, remember?

orly?!?!?!

Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 10:19 PM
The reign I'm thinking of was while Goldberg was in WCW.
I think she faced Lita, there was some outside interferance and Hunter dragged an unconcious Steph over Lita ftw

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 10:21 PM
The reign I'm thinking of was while Goldberg was in WCW.
I think she faced Lita, there was some outside interferance and Hunter dragged an unconcious Steph over Lita ftw

Now it came back to me thanks!

Nightmare match= Steph vs Goldberg

Splattered-Dreams
10-12-2010, 10:25 PM
Nightmare match: Orton vs Dave Batista

Unfortunately, that has headlined a PPV :(

SilverGhost
10-12-2010, 10:28 PM
Nightmare match: Orton vs Dave Batista

Unfortunately, that has headlined a PPV :(

For the Divas championship right?

(stay on topic :P zorry)

NightWolf
10-13-2010, 01:11 AM
For the Divas championship right?

(stay on topic :P zorry)

Hey! They both have diva attitudes. I could see Orton having a run with the Diva's championship.


Anyway, Diva's wrestling is caught in a slump right now.. What angers me is that fans still do not like Lita... Strange.. She said that she had no problem coming back to the WWE if they would ask her yet fans still bash on her for no apparent reason. So what if she took it in the butt from EDGE when she was dating Matt. That should not tarnish the fact that she was an amazing talent. Lita was the 1st woman I had seen do a backflip off the top rope. She delivered some of the best dropkicks ever an had a list of moves that were simliar to Rey Mysterios. SHE LITTERALLY RISKED HER NECK FOR THIS DIVISION!! Trish, Lita, Victora, Jazz, Ivory, Molly(Why do people keep leaving her out?), and almost any womens wrestler from the begining of womens wrestling until' 2006 were great IMO. I say that because Lita an Trish left around that time after ending their legendary feud.

SilverGhost
10-13-2010, 10:51 AM
Hey! They both have diva attitudes. I could see Orton having a run with the Diva's championship.


Anyway, Diva's wrestling is caught in a slump right now.. What angers me is that fans still do not like Lita... Strange.. She said that she had no problem coming back to the WWE if they would ask her yet fans still bash on her for no apparent reason. So what if she took it in the butt from EDGE when she was dating Matt. That should not tarnish the fact that she was an amazing talent. Lita was the 1st woman I had seen do a backflip off the top rope. She delivered some of the best dropkicks ever an had a list of moves that were simliar to Rey Mysterios. SHE LITTERALLY RISKED HER NECK FOR THIS DIVISION!! Trish, Lita, Victora, Jazz, Ivory, Molly(Why do people keep leaving her out?), and almost any womens wrestler from the begining of womens wrestling until' 2006 were great IMO. I say that because Lita an Trish left around that time after ending their legendary feud.

Lita is still hated? I forgave her a long time ago.

Bodom
10-13-2010, 10:53 AM
Lita is still hated? I forgave her a long time ago.

People hated Lita?? Thats news to me

SilverGhost
10-13-2010, 10:55 AM
People hated Lita?? Thats news to me

Its because of the Love triangle dude. If people still remember that then no wonder.

Bodom
10-13-2010, 10:57 AM
Its because of the Love triangle dude. If people still remember that then no wonder.

I remember the triangle, but was that really a reason to have legitimate hatred for Lita?

SilverGhost
10-13-2010, 11:02 AM
I remember the triangle, but was that really a reason to have legitimate hatred for Lita?

I say no. Anybody can do the same mistake. Its just this was made public and people rallied for Matt.

Bodom
10-13-2010, 11:13 AM
I say no. Anybody can do the same mistake. Its just this was made public and people rallied for Matt.

Then Matt Hardy was handed a mic and it all went downhill

SilverGhost
10-13-2010, 11:18 AM
Then Matt Hardy was handed a mic and it all went downhill

Yeah. The storyline was good and the matches too. But they must have suffered for that.

NightWolf
10-18-2010, 02:56 AM
Lita is still hated? I forgave her a long time ago.

Yes. It was also why she left the WWE. She chose to leave because she could not even go out in public without somebody randomly going up to her an calling her a whore. Personally though I believe if the fans kept their mouths shut then we would still have Lita around. What a bunch of idiots.

SilverGhost
10-18-2010, 09:53 AM
Yes. It was also why she left the WWE. She chose to leave because she could not even go out in public without somebody randomly going up to her an calling her a whore. Personally though I believe if the fans kept their mouths shut then we would still have Lita around. What a bunch of idiots.

That is harsh. I say it was WWE's fault for even making this into a storyline.

jethro
10-18-2010, 10:28 AM
My favourite Diva would be Eve - shes smokin hot and maybe its just me but I watch her trying to give her best in the ring though theres botch here and there,also Layla,shes good and she got skill.

TNA knockout - Trinity and Roxxi,others are just eye candy with decent skill at the very least.

If I wanna watch true women wrestling I'll checkout joshi of the 90s,expect alot of dropkicks and shrieking.

IrkenInvader
10-18-2010, 11:36 AM
Yes. It was also why she left the WWE. She chose to leave because she could not even go out in public without somebody randomly going up to her an calling her a whore. Personally though I believe if the fans kept their mouths shut then we would still have Lita around. What a bunch of idiots.

Matt has already forgiven her and Edge. Why can't everyone else.

SilverGhost
10-18-2010, 10:36 PM
Matt has already forgiven her and Edge. Why can't everyone else.

This is truth.

I have forgiven all of them. I think Lita has been through enough.

To all the people who remember Lita as a whore: Let it go. Lita can be forgiven. I forgave her and most here in this site. We may go through the same drama. Lita isn't a bad person.

eyehatecena
10-20-2010, 11:06 AM
My favourite Diva would be Eve - shes smokin hot and maybe its just me but I watch her trying to give her best in the ring though theres botch here and there,also Layla,shes good and she got skill.

TNA knockout - Trinity and Roxxi,others are just eye candy with decent skill at the very least.

If I wanna watch true women wrestling I'll checkout joshi of the 90s,expect alot of dropkicks and shrieking.

Wait, Eve good in te ring? ha, neither she or Foxx should have ever be able to have the tiitle as soon as they got it. neither should Layla(she does have more skill than Foxx and Eve, I will give you that, but she is nowhere at the level as someone who actually deserves the title- Gail Kim, melina and a few others.

As far as TNA- anybody there(with the exception of Lacey) or has wrestled for them is better than most WWE woemen on their rosters. TNA actually has some eye candy that can actually wrestle

merhardt03
10-20-2010, 12:24 PM
This is truth.

I have forgiven all of them. I think Lita has been through enough.

To all the people who remember Lita as a whore: Let it go. Lita can be forgiven. I forgave her and most here in this site. We may go through the same drama. Lita isn't a bad person.

Very true. Id love to see Lita one more time vs Trish. Those two were just incredible. Now we are subdued to divas matches that are lucky to hit a 2 minute mark.