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IrkenInvader
10-16-2011, 08:56 PM
Was he ever in the WWE?

YOUcanCALLmeCRACK
10-16-2011, 09:58 PM
ADR's uncle and father of SINcara, it's MAScaras. See what I did there?

Androo
10-16-2011, 10:39 PM
He's not Sin Cara's father, they're not related

You didn't see.

I really wish you would post where you get your stuff from. It's an easy enough thing to do, just as easy as posting the said STUFF.

masakaritko
10-16-2011, 11:00 PM
Don't forget that ADR's dad is Dos Caras (Mil Mascaras' brother) and ADR once went by the name Dos Caras Jr.

rsf8405
10-16-2011, 11:14 PM
@wweinsider: BREAKING NEWS: Triple H announces Lucha Legend Mil Mascaras will be part of the WWE Hall of Fame class of 2012.

Rich Cranium
10-16-2011, 11:20 PM
Don't forget that ADR's dad is Dos Caras (Mil Mascaras' brother) and ADR once went by the name Dos Caras Jr.

ADR used Dos Caras in MMA also.

ELNIOJR
10-17-2011, 04:04 AM
You didn't see.

I really wish you would post where you get your stuff from. It's an easy enough thing to do, just as easy as posting the said STUFF.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI-YunGRXBs

LMPunker
10-17-2011, 04:40 AM
saw it coming a mile of bit surprised they announced already but now that i think about it it makes sense and to all those who doubt he should be in the there verne gagne is in there,adbullah the butcher is there and he has competed in wwe before so he is more qualified then most(not that im against inducting guys outside the wwe who made a significant contribution)

ELNIOJR
10-17-2011, 06:08 AM
So, I guess Alberto Del Rio está safe :)

Dr. Death
10-17-2011, 07:09 AM
There are a lot of critics about Mil Mascaras. One of the most vocal critics is Mick Foley who, in his book Have a Nice Day!, complained about Mascaras' refusal to sell moves in their match. In his book, A Lion's Tale, Chris Jericho describes the stories of Mascaras' large ego and states that, if anything, "The tales were toning it down." In a 2007 shoot interview, "Superstar" Billy Graham confirmed that during his series of matches with Mascaras, Mascaras was unwilling to sell properly.

Aside from these critics, Mil Mascaras had a very storied career, and should be inducted in the HOF. Glad to see that Triple H announced that he would be.

Amerinaine
01-09-2012, 09:30 PM
For the Benefit of Those with Flash PHOTOGRAPHY!!!!!!!!

He was my Favorite superstar growing up as a kid. He was the original rock star superstar in my mind.

Tommy Thunder
01-09-2012, 09:32 PM
I'd like to see it too. Edge certainly deserves it. Next year would be perfect when Mania's from Toronto?

Amerinaine
01-09-2012, 09:33 PM
I'd like to see it too. Edge certainly deserves it. Why not next year when Mania's from Toronto?

Like to see it? It is happening. Confirmed.

Broc
01-09-2012, 09:34 PM
Well that was fast lol. Edge deserved more then a lot of people, good for him, and this is the perfect year

Amerinaine
01-09-2012, 09:35 PM
I wonder if this was a spoiler to some or not. But I got excited. I marked out hardcore when they announced it.

VanHooliganX
01-09-2012, 09:35 PM
1214

Good start to that HOF.

Tommy Thunder
01-09-2012, 09:35 PM
Like to see it? It is happening. Confirmed.

Oh.
Thanks for the spoiler then I guess :/

Murphdogg4
01-09-2012, 09:36 PM
He for sure deserves it..worked his ass off.

No_1eddiefan
01-09-2012, 09:38 PM
I love it!

He deserves it more than most, and can't wait to see it happen.

The Hall of Fame goes Rated R!

Also, can't wait to see who the other inductee is announced tonight, I'm hoping it's Taker or Triple H.

VanHooliganX
01-09-2012, 09:38 PM
Oh.
Thanks for the spoiler then I guess :/

Considering its on the home newsfeed and there's probably going to be other thread about this later on. Are you still surprised someone spoilt it?

Tommy Thunder
01-09-2012, 09:42 PM
Considering its on the home newsfeed and there's probably going to be other thread about this later on. Are you still surprised someone spoilt it?

Given this site's track record with spoilers, no, I'm not at all surprised.

VanHooliganX
01-09-2012, 09:43 PM
Given this site's track record with spoilers, no, I'm not at all surprised.

Aye. If it makes you feel any better. This ruined the surprise for me too since I aren't watching Raw. So i'm in the same boat as you lol

Amerinaine
01-09-2012, 09:43 PM
http://youtu.be/RVegBt0jRiY

I get to watch it live. I didn't use the feed for this. I'm sorry folks. I gotta remember, there are people who are in different time zones who can't see this live.

Murphdogg4
01-09-2012, 09:45 PM
Aye. If it makes you feel any better. This ruined the surprise for me too since I aren't watching Raw. So i'm in the same boat as you lol

I'm dvr'ing it to..I should of known better then to come to the forum before watching it, you know someone is going to be a attention whore and give spoilers..

Tommy Thunder
01-09-2012, 09:46 PM
http://youtu.be/RVegBt0jRiY

I get to watch it live. I didn't use the feed for this. I'm sorry folks. I gotta remember, there are people who are in different time zones who can't see this live.

Don't worry man, I'm personally not angry about it. It's just I won't mark out like I would have when I see it now lol!
But no big deal :)

Amerinaine
01-09-2012, 09:47 PM
I'm dvr'ing it to..I should of known better then to come to the forum before watching it, you know someone is going to be a attention whore and give spoilers..

I hope this is plain sarcasm, because the last thing I want this early in my posting life is a neg rep.

Murphdogg4
01-09-2012, 09:52 PM
I hope this is plain sarcasm, because the last thing I want this early in my posting life is a neg rep.

didn't see your earlier post apologising..no hard feelings brotha

Dameduse823
01-09-2012, 09:54 PM
After the way his career came to an end I don't think there was any doubt he was going to be getting inducted and I couldn't be happier. Edge has always been one of my favorites and he is one of the most entertaining and talented guys wwe ever had

Amerinaine
01-09-2012, 10:04 PM
didn't see your earlier post apologising..no hard feelings brotha

I still learned a lesson. Wait about 5 seconds more. It took me longer to make a mistake by spoiling this than it did for 5-6 people to post Brodus Clay's debut. Man these guys are fast.

CM Rock-Austin
01-09-2012, 10:19 PM
That was fast but like most of you guys said he deserved it!

The Brown One
01-09-2012, 10:24 PM
Big Congrats to Edge! Hes one of my favorite wrestlers of all time, and he deserved to be inducted into the HOF. I'm surprised they did it so early, but who cares.

2bluntsup
01-09-2012, 11:01 PM
I guess Arn Anderson will b givin the speech, how r they going to do this with Flair in TNA. To me u cant put the Horseman as a unit in the HOF without Flair bein there, even tho Flair is already in the HOF

Dameduse823
01-09-2012, 11:05 PM
I guess Arn Anderson will b givin the speech, how r they going to do this with Flair in TNA. To me u cant put the Horseman as a unit in the HOF without Flair bein there, even tho Flair is already in the HOF

My guess is Flair will be there. I mean lets face it Flair is a glory hound he's gonna go anywhere he can get his face on tv and as for tna well if Flair suddenly shows up its going to bring a lot of attention to TNA. And to be honest I can see Flair telling tna to fuck off if he seems like he has a chance to come back to wwe

ItswrestlingIwantblood
01-09-2012, 11:10 PM
Edge was my favorite too. Sweet news. Love the guy

SilverGhost
01-09-2012, 11:12 PM
If tag teams can go in the HOF, why not a stable?

Pumpkinhead
01-09-2012, 11:12 PM
Edge deserves it!!, one of the best no doubt

Robstar
01-09-2012, 11:15 PM
When was the last time Flair appeared in TNA? I ask this legitimately as I don't know. I'm sure Arn, Tully and JJ Dillon will be there. I'd like to see Ole Anderson there too, since he was an original. I'd be all for Barry Windham (depending on his health) and Lex Luger, but then you'd have to include Sting, Sid, *choke* Paul Roma, Malenko and Benoit.

So I think it will be just the originals, since they're obvioulsy inducting the group and not the individual members as some are already in the HoF

TheDevilsAdvocate
01-09-2012, 11:17 PM
​This is long over-due. I'm just glad that it is finally happening.

AlexWorldOrder
01-09-2012, 11:19 PM
My guess is Flair will be there. I mean lets face it Flair is a glory hound he's gonna go anywhere he can get his face on tv and as for tna well if Flair suddenly shows up its going to bring a lot of attention to TNA. And to be honest I can see Flair telling tna to fuck off if he seems like he has a chance to come back to wwe

Nope, watch/read his interviews; Flair has no desire to go back to the WWE. TNA give him the freedom to be able attend these ceremonies.

2bluntsup
01-09-2012, 11:26 PM
When was the last time Flair appeared in TNA? I ask this legitimately as I don't know. I'm sure Arn, Tully and JJ Dillon will be there. I'd like to see Ole Anderson there too, since he was an original. I'd be all for Barry Windham (depending on his health) and Lex Luger, but then you'd have to include Sting, Sid, *choke* Paul Roma, Malenko and Benoit.

So I think it will be just the originals, since they're obvioulsy inducting the group and not the individual members as some are already in the HoF

He was at the Genesis ppv as Gunners Manager

TheDevilsAdvocate
01-09-2012, 11:30 PM
It is kind of hard to believe that EDGE is already on his way into the Hall Of Fame. It was like just yesterday that I seen him debut by coming to the ring through the crowds. He definitely did a lot in such a short time and I am thankful to have been able to witness some of his most historic moments live. I miss him a lot. I hope that he pursues more concrete acting roles so I will get to see him more often. :D I'm still waiting for the Children's book EDGE!

Steve Austin
01-09-2012, 11:48 PM
Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! Seeing that video package reminded me how much I miss him :'( I was hoping he was gunna come out HBK style!

One of you mods: Maybe you should make a HOF 2012 thread because there will be plenty more of these threads over the next few weeks.

Robstar
01-09-2012, 11:54 PM
No Ole!!! I'm pissed at that. He was an original. And as a big Barry Windham fan, I think he deserves to go in as an individual. Maybe Ole declined:confused:

The Sneakiness
01-10-2012, 12:09 AM
Isn't Flair already in the HOF?

Amerinaine
01-10-2012, 12:12 AM
I'd kinda like credit for starting this one if you do merge. :E

HCollins-TNA1
01-10-2012, 12:39 AM
No Ole!!! I'm pissed at that. He was an original. And as a big Barry Windham fan, I think he deserves to go in as an individual. Maybe Ole declined:confused:
Ole has always been against Vince's way of doing things...
He have stated it several times, that he'll never work for the WWE or go there.... Sad he want, like you said Rob, he was a original and founding father of the 4 Horsemen!!!

Gazza010
01-10-2012, 01:21 AM
This is a quote from the main headlines:


WWE announced during the first hour of Monday’s RAW SuperShow that Edge would be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame the night after WrestleMania XXVIII.

Does this mean that Edge wont be inducted during the Hall of Fame ceremony on the Saturday night before Mania?
But in fact on the Raw Supershow afterwards?

ArtfulDodger
01-10-2012, 02:38 AM
Still think that they should have waited another year. But its cool to know he's going in. Good for Edge. Now lets see Randy Savage next.

The Brown One
01-10-2012, 02:43 AM
This is a quote from the main headlines:



Does this mean that Edge wont be inducted during the Hall of Fame ceremony on the Saturday night before Mania?
But in fact on the Raw Supershow afterwards?

Unless that's a typo, maybe it's because Edge will be the #1 inductee this year, like Austin was a few years ago. So he'll get the Raw to himself.

Gazza010
01-10-2012, 04:40 AM
Unless that's a typo, maybe it's because Edge will be the #1 inductee this year, like Austin was a few years ago. So he'll get the Raw to himself.

I still hold the belief that Rock will be inducted this year and hence be the number one inductee.

I seems the stage is finally set for it, with him being associated with the company for the last year, being in the main event of Mania this year, and also the fact that it is in his home town!

WWE dont have a better oppurtunity than now.

Obviously, this would totally devalue Edge's induction, which he certainly doesnt deserve.

Plus I believe it is too soon after his retirement to induct Edge in the HOF.

Wrestling Realist
01-10-2012, 04:51 AM
I'd like to see it too. Edge certainly deserves it. Next year would be perfect when Mania's from Toronto?
i think edge deserves it too one of my favorites since him and Christian grew up not too far from where I live and yeah it should have never happened this year it should have been in his hometown of Toronto (well his billed hometown his real one is Orangeville)So is WM confirmed next year for Toronto? if so i need to get tickets to that if it doesn't sell out 2hrs like WM18

The Brown One
01-10-2012, 05:07 AM
I still hold the belief that Rock will be inducted this year and hence be the number one inductee.

I seems the stage is finally set for it, with him being associated with the company for the last year, being in the main event of Mania this year, and also the fact that it is in his home town!

WWE dont have a better oppurtunity than now.

Obviously, this would totally devalue Edge's induction, which he certainly doesnt deserve.

Plus I believe it is too soon after his retirement to induct Edge in the HOF.

Where did you get the "Edge will be inducted after Mania" news from? Because on Raw Cole said that he will be inducted the night before Wrestlemania.

Gazza010
01-10-2012, 05:15 AM
Where did you get the "Edge will be inducted after Mania" news from? Because on Raw Cole said that he will be inducted the night before Wrestlemania.

If Im brutally honest, I got it from one of the headlines on the main page:

http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/news/1181/breaking-news-who-will-induct-edge-into-hof

Tomsta666
01-10-2012, 05:38 AM
Edge should definitely be inducted, but isn't it a bit too early? I mean he's barely been retired a year.

Gazza010
01-10-2012, 06:35 AM
To be fair, Flair always attends the HOF ceremonies every year anyway.

I was at the HOF ceremony at WM 27 and as soon as Flair was spotted, the crowd turned into a "Woooooooooo" frenzy!

PSOjedi
01-10-2012, 06:50 AM
TNA will exchange Flair vs John Morrison ^^

THEKEVINBRAND
01-10-2012, 06:57 AM
Edge should definitely be inducted, but isn't it a bit too early? I mean he's barely been retired a year.

It shows that McMahon is running out of big names, he could've at least announced The Rock instead of Edge

LMPunker
01-10-2012, 07:41 AM
does this make ric flair the only man to be inducted twice?

THEKEVINBRAND
01-10-2012, 07:46 AM
Get him Vince! Give TNA some more room to bring in younger guys

LMPunker
01-10-2012, 07:50 AM
edge deserves this no question i dont think anybody will deny that and i am so pleased for him just i thought theywould induct the rock this year and save edge for when they do another wrestlemania in canada would have made abit more sense unless they are saving the rock for wrestlemania 30 because you have to have a big name go in for wrestlemania 30

side note i started watching in the year 2000 and if you had told me that edge would have been in the hall of fame before the rock id have said you were crazy and thats not a knock on edge by the way

Wrestling Realist
01-10-2012, 08:04 AM
edge deserves this no question i dont think anybody will deny that and i am so pleased for him just i thought theywould induct the rock this year and save edge for when they do another wrestlemania in canada would have made abit more sense unless they are saving the rock for wrestlemania 30 because you have to have a big name go in for wrestlemania 30

side note i started watching in the year 2000 and if you had told me that edge would have been in the hall of fame before the rock id have said you were crazy and thats not a knock on edge by the way
I was thinking undertaker for WM30

Y2Jryder
01-10-2012, 08:32 AM
does this make ric flair the only man to be inducted twice?
Yes it does. Maybe HHH and HBK will be inducted twice in the future. as singles wrestlers and DX

Amerinaine
01-10-2012, 09:23 AM
Obviously, this would totally devalue Edge's induction, which he certainly doesn't deserve.

I won't do this often but, this is quite possibly the dumbest post I've seen on the forums so far. There have been some bad posts too.

Dude has been gone a year. It was definitely known he would be a Hall of Famer. I can list more reasons why he DOES deserve it than doesn't.

List of why your comment is just stupid:
7 World Heavyweight Championships
4 WWE Championships
5 WWF/E Intercontinental Championship
6 WCW United States Championships
12 WWF/E World Tag Team Championships
2 WWE Tag Team Championships
14th Triple Crown Champion
2001 King of the Ring (When it actually meant something)
2 Money In The Bank Winner
2010 Royal Rumble Winner

Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards

2002 Match of the Year (w/ Rey Mysterio V Chris Benoit & Kurt Angle @ No Mercy)
2000 Tag Team of the Year (w/ Christian)

Not to mention he helped pioneer the Table, Ladders and Chairs match, he lost only 1 Wrestlemania (Maybe 2, pretty sure just 1 though) to the Undertaker.

So, can you back up your claim that he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Your ignorance in your comment was overwhelming.

EDIT: By the way, Edge has way more accomplishments than The Crock



WCW/WWE World Heavyweight Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCW_World_Heavyweight_Championship) (2 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WCW_World_Heavyweight_Champions))1[161] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-160)
WWF/E Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Championship) (7 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_Champions))2[162] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-161)
WWF Intercontinental Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Intercontinental_Championship) (2 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_Intercontinental_Champions))[163] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-162)
WWF Tag Team Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tag_Team_Championship_%28WWE%29) (5 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Tag_Team_Champions_%28WWE%29)) – with Mankind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Foley) (3), The Undertaker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undertaker) (1), and Chris Jericho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Jericho) (1)[164] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-163)
Royal Rumble (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rumble) (2000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rumble_%282000%29))[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-wwebio-2)

Edge: 36 Titles (22 Individual)
The Rock: 16 Titles (11 Individual)

There is no comparison. They came up around the same time. Edge was just better. It was obvious they had more faith in him. Edge knew his place, Wrestler first. Actor Second. So the Rock can wait. Edge needed to be in first chance he got. The proof is just there.

Why did you back off your original Comment I posted that caused my rant?

twoot2
01-10-2012, 09:29 AM
I would have thought they would have Edge inducted into the hall of fame next year and The Rock this year, but either way im happy for Edge he definitely deserves it!

Pumpkinhead
01-10-2012, 09:38 AM
well mostly he is being inducted this year due to this retirement, of course he totally deserves it but is better to do it keeping fresh the memory

Gazza010
01-10-2012, 10:11 AM
I won't do this often but, this is quite possibly the dumbest post I've seen on the forums so far. There have been some bad posts too.

Dude has been gone a year. It was definitely known he would be a Hall of Famer. I can list more reasons why he DOES deserve it than doesn't.

List of why your comment is just stupid:
7 World Heavyweight Championships
4 WWE Championships
5 WWF/E Intercontinental Championship
6 WCW United States Championships
12 WWF/E World Tag Team Championships
2 WWE Tag Team Championships
14th Triple Crown Champion
2001 King of the Ring (When it actually meant something)
2 Money In The Bank Winner
2010 Royal Rumble Winner

Wrestling Observer Newsletter Awards

2002 Match of the Year (w/ Rey Mysterio V Chris Benoit & Kurt Angle @ No Mercy)
2000 Tag Team of the Year (w/ Christian)

Not to mention he helped pioneer the Table, Ladders and Chairs match, he lost only 1 Wrestlemania (Maybe 2, pretty sure just 1 though) to the Undertaker.

So, can you back up your claim that he doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame. Your ignorance in your comment was overwhelming.

EDIT: By the way, Edge has way more accomplishments than The Crock



WCW/WWE World Heavyweight Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCW_World_Heavyweight_Championship) (2 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WCW_World_Heavyweight_Champions))1[161] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-160)
WWF/E Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Championship) (7 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_Champions))2[162] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-161)
WWF Intercontinental Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWE_Intercontinental_Championship) (2 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_WWE_Intercontinental_Champions))[163] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-162)
WWF Tag Team Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tag_Team_Championship_%28WWE%29) (5 times (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_Tag_Team_Champions_%28WWE%29)) – with Mankind (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Foley) (3), The Undertaker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Undertaker) (1), and Chris Jericho (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Jericho) (1)[164] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-163)
Royal Rumble (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rumble) (2000 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rumble_%282000%29))[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rock#cite_note-wwebio-2)

Edge: 36 Titles (22 Individual)
The Rock: 16 Titles (11 Individual)

There is no comparison. They came up around the same time. Edge was just better. It was obvious they had more faith in him. Edge knew his place, Wrestler first. Actor Second. So the Rock can wait. Edge needed to be in first chance he got. The proof is just there.

Why did you back off your original Comment I posted that caused my rant?

I will gladly back up my quote you utter imbecile.

Firstly, you obviously didnt read my entire original quote, so Im going to put it below for you.


I still hold the belief that Rock will be inducted this year and hence be the number one inductee.

I seems the stage is finally set for it, with him being associated with the company for the last year, being in the main event of Mania this year, and also the fact that it is in his home town!

WWE dont have a better oppurtunity than now.

Obviously, this would totally devalue Edge's induction, which he certainly doesnt deserve.

Plus I believe it is too soon after his retirement to induct Edge in the HOF.

Now where do I say that Edge does not deserve a HOF induction?

All I was saying is that the stage is set better for the Rock to be inducted this year and then Edge later when WM is eventually held in Canada. Also that IF the Rock and Edge were to be inducted in the same year, of course the Rock will be put ahead of him, for all the reasons in my quote.

Hence the comment that IF the Rock and Edge were to be inducted in the same year, it would devalue Edge's induction if he was behind Rock, which like I said, he doesnt deserve.

I completely agree that Edge deserves to be in the HOF and even more so that he should be the star attraction, like Shawn Michaels was in 2011, but it wouldnt happen if he and Rock were inducted in the same night.

Counter rant over . . . .

Dr. Death
01-10-2012, 10:31 AM
I will gladly back up my quote you utter imbecile.
Now where do I say that Edge does not deserve a HOF induction?

You said it right here;
Obviously, this would totally devalue Edge's induction, which he certainly doesnt deserve. Which could have been taken two different ways. Also name calling doesn't contribute to the discussion.

Then you say;
I completely agree that Edge deserves to be in the HOF and even more so that he should be the star attraction I am aware that you did clarify what you originally meant, but this is contradictory to your original statement, that is until the clarification.

Let's just agree to disagree on Rock's status, the Four Horsemen's induction followed by Edge's induction into the Hall of Fame over shadows Rock's measly claim for induction into this years class.

Amerinaine
01-10-2012, 10:55 AM
I will gladly back up my quote you utter imbecile.

Firstly, you obviously didnt read my entire original quote, so Im going to put it below for you.



Now where do I say that Edge does not deserve a HOF induction?

All I was saying is that the stage is set better for the Rock to be inducted this year and then Edge later when WM is eventually held in Canada. Also that IF the Rock and Edge were to be inducted in the same year, of course the Rock will be put ahead of him, for all the reasons in my quote.

Hence the comment that IF the Rock and Edge were to be inducted in the same year, it would devalue Edge's induction if he was behind Rock, which like I said, he doesnt deserve.

I completely agree that Edge deserves to be in the HOF and even more so that he should be the star attraction, like Shawn Michaels was in 2011, but it wouldnt happen if he and Rock were inducted in the same night.

Counter rant over . . . .

I insulted the post itself. Not you directly. I didn't read the full post. I actually missed one part. The damn comma after induction. Oops. I would back off my comment for missing a punctuation mark save for the fact you insulted me personally. Attack on my posts, fine. Me, not so much.

Gazza010
01-10-2012, 11:07 AM
I insulted the post itself. Not you directly. I didn't read the full post. I actually missed one part. The damn comma after induction. Oops. I would back off my comment for missing a punctuation mark save for the fact you insulted me personally. Attack on my posts, fine. Me, not so much.

I think we can both agree that there were mistakes on both sides, I certainly shouldn't have spoken about you directly as I did and there was misinterpretation on your side regarding my post.

I apologies for the wrong-doing on my part

Amerinaine
01-10-2012, 11:12 AM
I think we can both agree that there were mistakes on both sides, I certainly shouldn't have spoken about you directly as I did and there was misinterpretation on your side regarding my post.

I apologies for the wrong-doing on my part

I do too as well. We are too passionate about this stuff, me thinks.

eboy
01-10-2012, 01:38 PM
My guess is Flair will be there. I mean lets face it Flair is a glory hound he's gonna go anywhere he can get his face on tv and as for tna well if Flair suddenly shows up its going to bring a lot of attention to TNA. And to be honest I can see Flair telling tna to fuck off if he seems like he has a chance to come back to wwe

Exactly and even if WWE dont want him to appear on TV He'll appear much like the clique did for HBK

eboy
01-10-2012, 01:46 PM
On this day...

HOF has a more than worthy inductee... this years will be awesome.

EDGE deserves it!

Murphdogg4
01-10-2012, 03:26 PM
Ole has always been against Vince's way of doing things...
He have stated it several times, that he'll never work for the WWE or go there.... Sad he want, like you said Rob, he was a original and founding father of the 4 Horsemen!!!

This is revisionist history at it's worst, just because Ole never kissed Vince's ass they are acting like he wasn't a founding member of the horsemen? AA was still green when the horsemen started it was ole at first that gave them their tough guy edge. Granted Ole is a mean old bastard but that' no reason to pretend like he wasn't a founding member of the horsemen..

HeelTurn
01-10-2012, 03:30 PM
Its an interesting choice that they put in this version of the Horsemen, that being said they were arguably the most successful. Would have still like to have seen Ole in, but he probably turned it down like some others have.

Murphdogg4
01-10-2012, 03:31 PM
good point, I'd like to see a game show called "who hates Vince more" with Ole competing against Bruno Sammartino..

Robstar
01-10-2012, 03:32 PM
I wouldn't say Arn was exactly green when the Horsemen were formed. He'd been active for 3 years when the Horsemen were formed.

Also, it's not accurate to say Flair will be inducted twice. It's more that the stable (or a version of it) is being inducted.

(Was Paul Ellering inducted with The Road Warriors?)

HeelTurn
01-10-2012, 03:33 PM
I wouldn't say Arn was exactly green when the Horsemen were formed. He'd been active for 3 years when the Horsemen were formed.

Also, it's not accurate to say Flair will be inducted twice. It's more that the stable (or a version of it) is being inducted.

(Was Paul Ellering inducted with The Road Warriors?)

He was indeed

Just checked WWE.com, he seems to have been inducted as a seperate guy, whereas the Warriors are together.

Murphdogg4
01-10-2012, 03:47 PM
does this make ric flair the only man to be inducted twice?


if anyone deserves it, it would be Naith..Nobody has ever worked as hard for as long as he has. His passion for the business won't let him quit hence a lot of newer fans not liking him.

Cabers
01-10-2012, 04:22 PM
Like to see it? It is happening. Confirmed.

Yea it has been. Might as well do it now can you imagine the reaction when it happens!!

THEKEVINBRAND
01-10-2012, 04:25 PM
From WNS:


The latest rumored inductee for the 2012 WWE Hall of Fame is expected to be announced as 500 pound Yokozuna (Rodney Anoa’i). Anoa'i is a former 2 time WWE Champion, 2 time WWE Tag Team Champion and winner of the 1993 Royal Rumble. Anoa'i passed away on October 23, 2000, aged 34 due to fluid in his lungs.
The Rock is cousins with Anoa’i who comes from the famous Samoan wrestling family and himself is expected to be announced into the 2012 Hall of Fame class.


Do you think that the 2012 will be a pretty big year for the Hall?

Here's another question that I want to hear from you, which Hall of Fame class do you think was the best?

Bodom
01-10-2012, 04:40 PM
If last night was any indication. This is going to be a pretty stacked HOF Class.

THEKEVINBRAND
01-10-2012, 04:43 PM
If last night was any indication. This is going to be a pretty stacked HOF Class.

Yes I agree, it's looking pretty good right now. I also liked the 2005 class as well all the guys from the 8-s that were popular with McMahon all got inducted at the same time Piper, Hogan, Sheik, etc.

lykkekage
01-10-2012, 04:58 PM
It looks pretty big this year, already having Edge & The Horsemen and possibly Yokozuna.

And we still have big names like The Rock & Macho Man Randy Savage up in the air (It fits perfect for Rock this year, with this being his hometown and all that, I just feel like Rock would be one of the first announced inductees, if they were inducting him, since they named Edge & The Horsemen already to sell them tickets :))

And then some "smaller" names like Carlos Colon and Mil Mascaras (in WWE that is) also being up in the air.

HeelTurn
01-10-2012, 05:02 PM
Id be surprised if both Savage and Rock both go in this year aswell as Edge. This year is shaping up to be the best one yet.

THEKEVINBRAND
01-10-2012, 05:03 PM
It looks pretty big this year, already having Edge & The Horsemen and possibly Yokozuna.

And we still have big names like The Rock & Macho Man Randy Savage up in the air (It fits perfect for Rock this year, with this being his hometown and all that, I just feel like Rock would be one of the first announced inductees, if they were inducting him, since they named Edge & The Horsemen already to sell them tickets :))

And then some "smaller" names like Carlos Colon and Mil Mascaras (in WWE that is) also being up in the air.

Mascaras has already been confirmed as an inductee, there are three inductees confirmed for 2012 so to speak...It would be interesting to see if Colon does make it through as they are so close to the Mexican border and Colon has ties in Mexico and in Puerto Rico

BIGZrudypoo812
01-10-2012, 05:06 PM
I EXPECT Macho Man and The Rock to be the Two biggest names going in so they will prolly be announced last

HeelTurn
01-10-2012, 05:07 PM
Oh and on the subject of Yokozuna, I would love to see him inducted, Im assuming they will add a celeb to bring it down a bit, but so far its looking like a strong class.

THEKEVINBRAND
01-10-2012, 05:12 PM
Oh and on the subject of Yokozuna, I would love to see him inducted, Im assuming they will add a celeb to bring it down a bit, but so far its looking like a strong class.

maybe Mike Tyson? who else might fit the glove? Every guest host?

HeelTurn
01-10-2012, 05:13 PM
maybe Mike Tyson? who else might fit the glove? Every guest host?

As long as its not Snooki lol

Bob Barker perhaps?

The Prophecy
01-10-2012, 05:28 PM
I think it will be a big year this year!

Randy Savage is a possibilty, although I'm sure I read he would only be inducted if the Poffo's were inducted as a collective.

I'm 50/50 on the Rock, this year. Although it would make sense, being in Florida, I think they could save his induction for WM 30. I would say it has a good chance of being at MSG, as WM I, X and XX were. It would be a nice way to bookend his career, where he began!

The Prophecy
01-10-2012, 05:36 PM
McMahon should be inducted at MSG not The Rock

Interesting. The thought never even ocurred to me.

HeelTurn
01-10-2012, 05:41 PM
Do you think the other McMahons will be inducted aswell as Vince?

The Prophecy
01-10-2012, 05:42 PM
MSG's nickname is The House McMahon built

It's certainly a big part of the history.

HeelTurn
01-10-2012, 05:44 PM
Jess McMahon, Vince Sr, and Vince Jr

What about Shane or Steph?

The Prophecy
01-10-2012, 05:44 PM
Do you think the other McMahons will be inducted aswell as Vince?

Possibly Linda. Not so sure about Shane and Steph?

Vincent J was in '96!

The Prophecy
01-10-2012, 05:48 PM
nope not yet



well then that gets rid of one lol I'd say Linda or HHH (indirectly a McMahon)

Very true lol. I would say more Linda than Triple H just yet. Never know though.

The Prophecy
01-10-2012, 06:11 PM
but don't forget she cut all her ties with WWE

She has for the time being but if she is unsuccessful in her political career, no reason why she couldn't be inducted at WM 30, or a bit further down the line. She may be finished with politics by then, whether out of choice or not.

The Prophecy
01-10-2012, 06:17 PM
right, but we have to wait until after November to see what happens

You're right. Will have to wait and see.

Subject Zero
01-10-2012, 06:22 PM
All the McMahons will be inducted eventually. Even if its 30 years from now they will get in just like Trips.

Glad to see Edge in the Hall of Fame he deserves it.

And although alot of people would disagree that Yoko should be in the hall of fame, IF! he gets announced for it i see him as a welcome addition also.

Subject Zero
01-10-2012, 06:34 PM
I'm glad for Edge but too soon!


The guy will never return (physically he cant)

And he was one of the best ever?

I dont see what is wrong with inducting him now that he is retired.

Bodom
01-10-2012, 07:39 PM
When it comes to wrestling Hall of Fame's, there's no such thing as too soon. Especially when a retirement was forced by injury.

The Brown One
01-10-2012, 07:45 PM
IMO Randy Savage won't get inducted until Vince is on his deathbed.

Robstar
01-10-2012, 07:51 PM
The inducted HBK just as soon after he retired.

Of this list, who else do you think might be likely to go in this year?

Lex Luger
Nikita Koloff
Ivan Koloff
Magnum T.A.
Mike Rotundo
Demolition
The Killer Bees
Rick Martel
Stan Hansen
Bruiser Brody
Tito Santana
King Kong Bundy
Kamala
Stacy Kiebler
Torrie Wilson
Ivory
Tommy Dreamer
Raven

I think there is some definite possiblities there

HeelTurn
01-10-2012, 07:53 PM
The inducted HBK just as soon after he retired.

Of this list, who else do you think might be likely to go in this year?

Lex Luger
Nikita Koloff
Ivan Koloff
Magnum T.A.
Mike Rotundo
Demolition
The Killer Bees
Rick Martel
Stan Hansen
Bruiser Brody
Tito Santana
King Kong Bundy
Kamala
Stacy Kiebler
Torrie Wilson
Ivory
Tommy Dreamer
Raven

I think there is some definite possiblities there

Jake the Snake isnt in either.

Robstar
01-10-2012, 07:54 PM
IMO Randy Savage won't get inducted until Vince is on his deathbed.

I think his passing may have softened Vince a little.....but who can say for sure? If the stories are true, Steph was very young. ;)

Robstar
01-10-2012, 07:55 PM
I bet they'd have reached out to Stacy Kiebler for sure, hoping to pull in Clooney for star power

Bodom
01-10-2012, 08:39 PM
The inducted HBK just as soon after he retired.

Of this list, who else do you think might be likely to go in this year?

Lex Luger
Nikita Koloff
Ivan Koloff
Magnum T.A.
Mike Rotundo
Demolition
The Killer Bees
Rick Martel
Stan Hansen
Bruiser Brody
Tito Santana
King Kong Bundy
Kamala
Stacy Kiebler
Torrie Wilson
Ivory
Tommy Dreamer
Raven

I think there is some definite possiblities there

Raven being inducted would be fucking epic.

Robstar
01-10-2012, 11:32 PM
It's as much of an indication of the finality of his retirement as anything. Why shouldn't he go in now? He deserves it. I agree doing it in Canada would be great but hey, whatever right?

What about Mick Foley? Anyone think he'll go in this year?

Regarding Flair....I wouldn't be surprised if they let him take the stage. He's only in TNA because he's financially skint and I think Hunter could convince Vince. Does anyone know how Barry Windham is doing, health-wise?

Dr. Death
01-11-2012, 09:03 AM
Does anyone know how Barry Windham is doing, health-wise?

As of January 4, 2012 - Barry Windham is slowly recovering from his heart attack/stroke he had in October. He also had to have knee surgery because of the fall he took when having the attack, he is still in the hospital, but is up and walking as of the above date.

Robstar
01-11-2012, 03:20 PM
Mr T, anyone? When is he going to be inducted? He sure made more appearances for WWE than Drew Carey. As long as he doesn't try flogging the Flavourwave Oven, I'm cool with that.

Also, what about Michael Hayes/The Freebirds?

HCollins-TNA1
01-12-2012, 01:44 AM
Mr T, anyone? When is he going to be inducted? He sure made more appearances for WWE than Drew Carey. As long as he doesn't try flogging the Flavourwave Oven, I'm cool with that.

Also, what about Michael Hayes/The Freebirds?

Mr T, He deserves it if the WWE will do it.....
The Freebirds deserves in as well they made being bad guys cool.... If they don't get in this year and WM29 is in Dallas, TX next year they will go then...

What about Lex Luger???? He was a Horsemen and he played football for Miami in college...

Robstar
01-12-2012, 04:16 AM
Luger was in my list a couple of pages back of possibilties. Both he and Nikita Koloff attended last year so I'd say it's a definte maybe ;)

HCollins-TNA1
01-12-2012, 12:38 PM
Luger was in my list a couple of pages back of possibilties. Both he and Nikita Koloff attended last year so I'd say it's a definte maybe ;)
The Russians Ivan and Nikita both...

Robstar
01-12-2012, 02:31 PM
Well Ivan was WWWF champion I think? Won it from Bruno Sammartino from memory. I could look it up but can't be arsed. lol

I'm surprised that it says Vince and Ric still talk - obviously Vince realises Flair needs the money and isn't holding a grudge there. I think it'd be a different story with Hogan, especially after that HoF ring angle he did with Abyss. :rolleyes:
It makes sense that WWE wants to snap up all the good talkers with their network starting soon.

xAzureSkye
01-12-2012, 03:07 PM
Ivory hopefully for HOF this year, or maybe Alundra Blayze

xAzureSkye
01-12-2012, 03:09 PM
I bet they'd have reached out to Stacy Kiebler for sure, hoping to pull in Clooney for star power

Stacy shouldnt be inducted yet, maybe a veteran Diva like Ivory, Jacqueline, Sable, or Trish

HCollins-TNA1
01-12-2012, 11:27 PM
WWE made a curious decision this year for one of its annual Hall of Fame (HOF) inductees, the ceremony of which will take place at the American Airlines Arena in Miami, Florida, on March 31, 2012. As announced on Monday Night Raw this past week, The Four Horsemen will be inducted.It's important to note exactly what incarnation of the supergroup will be going in, as there were many different members scattered throughout its near decade long existence. The five members going in this year are Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Barry Windham and J.J. Dillon.The name that pops out on that list, because it should, is Ric Flair. That's because he was already inducted individually back in 2008 the night before WrestleMania 24, when he was "retired" by Shawn Michaels in one of the best matches in the history of the company, at least on an emotional level.Now, four years later, Flair is headed back as a member of one of the greatest stables in pro wrestling history. This wouldn't be such a big deal if not for the fact that, you know, Flair currently works for WWE's chief competitor, TNA.That obviously led to questions regarding how exactly they went about putting him in the HOF a second time and how TNA feels about it or if they were even told beforehand. The Wrestling Observer brings a few details:

http://cdn1.sbnation.com/images/blog/star-divide.v5e9d7f1.jpg

Based on the chronology of events the way it was explained to us, HHH called Ric Flair on 1/9, before it aired. Flair was at the TNA tapings working. HHH told him they were inducting the Horsemen and it would be announced later in the night.
It doesn't appear the key people in TNA were aware of it until it aired on television. Flair and Vince McMahon do talk and I would suspect the subject was broached about a Four Horsemen in the Hall of Fame, because I've heard it discussed over the last year or two, ever since they made amends with J.J. Dillon. Arn Anderson was always someone considered. Arn Anderson was expected for last year in Atlanta, but I guess the idea was the Horsemen as a group, and at that point, with Flair far more prominent and still wrestling on TNA television, not to do so at that time.
...
WWE has not outright said Flair will be there, so at this point they haven't done anything wrong. They have the right to induct anyone they want into their Hall of Fame and the right to use any of the footage they own in marketing.
But they do want Flair there. And Flair wants to be there. Flair was going to go this year to sit in the crowd, even though TNA probably wasn't thrilled about it, if they were inducting people he knew like Edge and Arn Anderson, and he went last year when Shawn Michaels was inducted which WWE pushed hard on its web site. But it's a different thing from a contract issue to go and sit in a crowd at an event and another to be one of the featured performers.
So right now the situation is to see how TNA reacts to this, if they just let it go, or make it an issue with Flair, or an issue with WWE.


As noted by Meltzer, TNA is in an interesting situation here. On the one hand, it's a good thing that Flair is being inducted into the WWE HOF because in a sense, it shows that they have a top star worthy of induction twice. The flip side to that coin is that they look second rate, which they do anyway.So should they let him go to the ceremony and be a part of the festivities?Again, that's quite the conundrum because the WWE HOF is really nothing but a gimmick, a fairly cheap and easy way to make money off ticket and DVD sales. And without Ric Flair, inducting the Four Horsemen is essentially a waste of time, seeing as he's the only one who ever really had enough drawing power to stay over more than 20 years after the group was originally formed. Plus, his going back will provide a great bit of nostalgia for fans who want to see him back with the better promotion, anyway.At the end of the day, TNA will look terrible if they don't let him go and they'll look terrible if they do. To that end, this was a brilliant move by WWE. The only welcome side effect to this is that Flair will likely still be under contract to TNA when the ceremony rolls around, so it's publicity for the company. Of course, many of the WWE fans of the world likely have no idea TNA is even a wrestling company and certainly don't think it's something worth finding out about. And really, what are the chances Flair starts talking up TNA while accepting his induction as a member of the Four Horsemen?Somewhere safely between slim and none.Another fascinating aspect of all this is that this could very well be the opening salvo fired by WWE in an attempt to lure Flair back into the fold. With the WWE Network upcoming and with Flair being such a big part of its video library, naturally, they would rather not have to freeze him out completely due to the fact that he works for TNA. Bringing him back would mean he could play a much larger part in anything they have planned to that end, which simply makes the most sense, all things considered. Yes, the shine has definitely rubbed off Flair's phony retirement -- and pro wrestling fans have great memories and won't soon forget the way he went out of the company -- but having him in WWE is now far preferable to having him in TNA.The next few months should be a very interesting time indeed.

TNA won’t make a dime off this. Really WWE should pay TNA a booking fee for his services for the two nights, but we all know that won’t happen.
Personally I wouldn’t blame TNA if they play hardball with Flair over this. They would be in their rights to stop him, especially as they were intentionally blindsided by the move. It’s one thing to be in the audience for the induction of former colleagues and even be shown on the WWE website putting over TNA’s rival’s Hall Of Fame, quite another to be a centrepiece of the event itself.



what it will come down to is if Flair is on TV during the Hall of Fame..... then also with the DVD of the Hall of Fame... then it all might depend on Flair's contract with TNA and the Carters....

Dr. Death
01-13-2012, 04:44 AM
Looks like Flair will be at this year's HOF ceremony, from the main news board;
http://www.ewrestlingnews.com/video/1274/ric-flair-confirms-hof-appearance

WBJ
01-14-2012, 05:50 PM
With All This H.O.F Talk, Will Vincent Kennedy McMahon Be Inducted Into The Hall Of Fame? And If So, Will It Be While He Is Still In Charge, Retired, Or After His Death?

The Brown One
01-14-2012, 05:56 PM
IMO he will get inducted after he retires. If anyone deserves to be in the HOF, it's him!

WBJ
01-14-2012, 06:00 PM
As We Are On The Subject Will Stephanie And Shane Be Inducted As Well?

tchocky360
01-14-2012, 06:01 PM
Yeah gotta agree with The Brown One. It'll be after he's fully retired from the WWE. When he's dead is too late, and while still in charge seems too much like ego stroking.

edit.
At the moment Shane and Stephanie haven't been on screen enough or affected the business enough to deserve their own spot in my opinion.
Paul Heyman should get in ahead of them.

Slivon
01-14-2012, 06:04 PM
As We Are On The Subject Will Stephanie And Shane Be Inducted As Well?
I don't see what Shane and Stephanie really did good to be inducted, unless you look at Shane buying WCW
or what ever happened there. But even so that was not impactful to say "Oh he needs to go in the Hall of
Fame for that,"

Dameduse823
01-14-2012, 06:21 PM
As We Are On The Subject Will Stephanie And Shane Be Inducted As Well?

From everything I've heard and read about the kind of guy Vince McMahon is he'd probably prefer having the McMahon family inducted rather then have himself inducted. But On topic I would love to see vince inducted whiel he's still alive, I've always had a massive amount of respect and he is one of my role models

Shaz11
01-14-2012, 06:36 PM
Vince deserves it, he's worked too hard!

tnafanwwehater
01-14-2012, 07:00 PM
I don't see what Shane and Stephanie really did good to be inducted, unless you look at Shane buying WCW
or what ever happened there. But even so that was not impactful to say "Oh he needs to go in the Hall of
Fame for that,"

u obviously did not see how good shanes matches were. sure they were spot fest. remember angle slamming him vs the glass or blackman hittin him with a kendo stick off a 20 feet pole. yeah his hall of fame material. if bware is there so is shane.
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Cabers
01-14-2012, 07:14 PM
Yea after he retires would be the obvious choice.

the-rocks-stunner
01-14-2012, 07:43 PM
I'm still waiting for that one celeb that had a cameo in the '80s to be inducted

Mikkaelson
01-14-2012, 07:52 PM
Cyndi Lauper into the Celebrity Wing. Long over due. Surely more deserving than Drew Carrey

Slivon
01-14-2012, 07:52 PM
u obviously did not see how good shanes matches were. sure they were spot fest. remember angle slamming him vs the glass or blackman hittin him with a kendo stick off a 20 feet pole. yeah his hall of fame material. if bware is there so is shane.
\
Like you said yourself he had good spots, but I don't think that he is HOFM

WBJ
01-14-2012, 08:01 PM
Hes Got H.O.F Status!!!!

http://youtu.be/KVPvHPhItuw (http://youtu.be/KVPvHPhItuw)

TheLegendaryIcon
01-14-2012, 08:12 PM
I would think if anything, he would be inducted into the HoF postmortem. Basically I'm imagining when he does pass, they'll do some special longer edition of RAW with a reflection upon his life and what he's done for the industry that will later be released as merch. Probably ended with a special HoF induction ceremony.

Fan4Now
01-14-2012, 11:01 PM
u obviously did not see how good shanes matches were. sure they were spot fest. remember angle slamming him vs the glass or blackman hittin him with a kendo stick off a 20 feet pole. yeah his hall of fame material. if bware is there so is shane.
\

Yes Sir ^^^^^^^^

WBJ
01-15-2012, 01:36 AM
I Like How I Posted, And It Had Nothing To Do With The 2012 Hall Of Fame?!?!?

jledwig
01-16-2012, 03:16 PM
Yes this is another thread on possible Inductees. Please keep this simple and sweet. Who Would you like to see? Just respond with a name and thats it don't go to complicated lol.


My vote is on Mick Foley!

Tommy Thunder
01-16-2012, 03:27 PM
Yokozuna's name has been mentioned recently. It's about time he went in. Perhaps have Mr Fuji go in with him to accept the award on his behalf?

HeelTurn
01-16-2012, 03:28 PM
Yokozuna's name has been mentioned recently. It's about time he went in. Perhaps have Mr Fuji go in with him to accept the award on his behalf?

Good idea, shame he was inducted a few years back, could have been good to put them both in during the same show.

Robstar
01-18-2012, 10:40 PM
From WNS to clarify some doubters:


Ever since it was announced that The Four Horsemen would be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame this year, rumors have been abound that the late Chris Benoit would be included as part of the group.It should be clarified that the only Horsemen members being inducted are the ORIGINAL members, those being Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Tully Blanchard, Barry Windham, and J.J. Dillon. Benoit will NOT be included in this group.Following the Benoit murder-suicide case, WWE made it known that they wanted nothing further to do with Benoit, and Jim Ross has also made it clear that despite the fact that his in-ring career was a great one, Benoit will never be inducted into the Hall of Fame because of his actions.



NOT an original member dude.

HeelTurn
01-19-2012, 09:03 AM
NOT an original member dude.

Yep, they were like the 3rd version I think.

I can see Luger going in as a singles wrestler sometime, not this year though.

xAzureSkye
01-20-2012, 05:53 PM
I'm hoping an 80s "diva" gets inducted this year, they don't get much credit for paving the way for young womens wrestlers (you know, the ones who actually wanna be a Diva so they go to the indys first)

and for that reason, I want either Rockin Robin, Debbie Combs, or Donna Christanello to be inducted. Hopefully Donna is the posthumous induction

Dr. Death
01-30-2012, 11:09 AM
It's because of stuff like this that the WWE HOF will never be recognized as the true HOF among wrestlers.

Dr. Death
02-01-2012, 04:40 AM
I know, Macho Man can't go in because of Lanny demanding The Poffo's or nothing

It's disgraceful the way Vince runs the HOF. Those that should be inducted are not, and those that shouldn't be inducted are. The WWE HOF will never be accepted as the true HOF simply because of this fact.

Kryptonite
02-02-2012, 01:34 AM
It's disgraceful the way Vince runs the HOF. Those that should be inducted are not, and those that shouldn't be inducted are. The WWE HOF will never be accepted as the true HOF simply because of this fact.
What i wanted to say sir.

Kryptonite
02-02-2012, 02:11 PM
It lost my respect when Pete Rose went in
Your sig is killing me

xAzureSkye
02-02-2012, 02:48 PM
Ivory for HOF!!

Iron Ape
02-02-2012, 02:59 PM
Man, such animus over something so...utterly harmless. I mean, I can understand not digging what the WWE HOF is all about, but those of you acting like there's some kind of ongoing, grievous miscarriage of justice need to rein it in a couple of notches. If it's really, truly a joke to you, why not treat it as such and just move on?

Dr. Death
02-02-2012, 05:58 PM
This is a forum for discussion and as long as we are not putting other members down or using foul language we should be able to voice our opinion of the topic at hand.

Dr. Death
02-02-2012, 06:42 PM
Man, such animus over something so...utterly harmless. I mean, I can understand not digging what the WWE HOF is all about, but those of you acting like there's some kind of ongoing, grievous miscarriage of justice need to rein it in a couple of notches. If it's really, truly a joke to you, why not treat it as such and just move on?

I'm just pointing out why I think it's a joke for the most part. It doesn't really affect me one way or the other and I'll enjoy watching the ones that I believe deserve it and laughing at the others and Vince.

Iron Ape
02-02-2012, 07:04 PM
This is a forum for discussion and as long as we are not putting other members down or using foul language we should be able to voice our opinion of the topic at hand.
It's not that you're not allowed to voice your opinion, man; it's that a blog and a multiple thread-spanning dedication to voicing said opinion sort of betrays your content. I mean, why not treat things that you perceive as insignificant in, well, an insignificant manner? What's to be gained from dwelling on the negativity, especially when it undermines much of your assertion in the process?

Bodom
02-02-2012, 07:08 PM
Vince can run his imaginary HOF however he pleases.

Iron Ape
02-02-2012, 07:11 PM
I'm just pointing out why I think it's a joke for the most part. It doesn't really affect me one way or the other and I'll enjoy watching the ones that I believe deserve it and laughing at the others and Vince.
Deserve what? A spot in a HOF that, in another thread, you claimed the talent didn't even regard as being a genuine HOF? If it's not a genuine HOF and the talent don't regard it as such, wouldn't the entire thing just be a series of empty gestures? Who enjoys watching a series of empty gestures?

See, this stuff just doesn't compute.

Dr. Death
02-02-2012, 09:18 PM
Deserve what? A spot in a HOF that, in another thread, you claimed the talent didn't even regard as being a genuine HOF? If it's not a genuine HOF and the talent don't regard it as such, wouldn't the entire thing just be a series of empty gestures? Who enjoys watching a series of empty gestures?

See, this stuff just doesn't compute.

All of pro-wrestling is empty gestures, but I'm sure people like to watch it or sites like this wouldn't exist.

Kryptonite
02-03-2012, 01:25 AM
Vince can run his imaginary HOF however he pleases.
exactly sir!

Dr. Death
02-03-2012, 10:07 AM
This officially made me laugh:

2011 WWE Hall of Famer Abdullah the Butcher appeared on the Wrestling Marks of Excellence radio show and says WWE waited too long to induct him and he should have been inducted decades ago. Abdullah also says he gave away his Hall of Fame ring to his brother. He said:


"I took my ring, my Hall of Fame ring, when they put it in my hand I gave it to my brother. I wouldn't wear it! I wouldn't wear it! 51 years Abdullah The Butcher has been in the business and drew people from all over the world, and they're going to hand me a ring 51 years later?"

^^This is just one of the reasons I said the WWE HOF was a joke^^^

Anyone care to argue with Abdullah? His sentiments towards the WWE HOF is commonly shared among wrestlers for the most part. lol

xAzureSkye
02-03-2012, 06:42 PM
really? Why does it matter when you are inducted? as long as you are inducted. Mae Young was in the biz for 65+ years before they inducted her, do you see her bitching about it?

Iron Ape
02-03-2012, 06:52 PM
This officially made me laugh:

2011 WWE Hall of Famer Abdullah the Butcher appeared on the Wrestling Marks of Excellence radio show and says WWE waited too long to induct him and he should have been inducted decades ago. Abdullah also says he gave away his Hall of Fame ring to his brother. He said:


"I took my ring, my Hall of Fame ring, when they put it in my hand I gave it to my brother. I wouldn't wear it! I wouldn't wear it! 51 years Abdullah The Butcher has been in the business and drew people from all over the world, and they're going to hand me a ring 51 years later?"
Yet he still took time away from infecting people with hepatitis to show up and accept, right? Yeah, sterling addition to the micro-examples to apply on a macro-level HOF hate pile right there.

Dr. Death
02-03-2012, 07:04 PM
He showed up to show contempt. His hepatitis is irrelevant to the extreme and you making a joke out such a serious health problem regardless of his actions, (even though they are deplorable), shows contempt towards him and other like him, the remarks about hate shows that same contempt for those who disagree with your opinion even if the matter was dropped.

Iron Ape
02-03-2012, 07:33 PM
He showed up to show contempt.
That makes no sense, and I don't buy it for a second.


hepatitis is irrelevant to the extreme and you making a joke out such a serious health problem regardless of his actions, (even though they are deplorable), shows contempt towards him and other like him
For starters, I wasn't making a joke. His infecting people with a disease is entirely representative of his character, and it completely undermines the credibility of anything and everything he has to say and/or do as it relates to the subject of honor. A guy who guys around and knowingly infects people with hepatitis has no respect for his peers, and no amount of spin-doctoring on your part can paint that as anything but infinitely more disrespectful to the business than whatever you want to construe Vince's HOF as being.


the remarks about hate shows that same contempt for those who disagree with your opinion even if the matter was dropped.
You're really grasping at straws now and trying to contort this into something that's it not. Characterizing a disdain that's being reiterated ad nauseam as hateful is a simple observation. Any attempt to paint that as something other than what it is would be entirely inaccurate and totally on you.

B-MCINTYRE
02-06-2012, 08:09 PM
​damn!!!!!!

Dr. Death
02-11-2012, 06:25 AM
- Here are the current plans for this year's WWE Hall of Fame induction ceremony:


* Steve Austin inducting Mike Tyson


* The Rock inducting the late Yokozuna


* JBL inducting Ron Simmons


* Alberto Del Rio inducting uncle Mil Mascaras


* Christian inducting Edge


* Triple H and Shawn Michaels inducting The Four Horsemen

The only decent one on this list is the horsemen, it's too early for edge, simmons is ok, and yokozuna is alright - but should be inducted by someone other than the rock who has never faced him.

Kryptonite
02-11-2012, 12:04 PM
The only decent one on this list is the horsemen, it's too early for edge, simmons is ok, and yokozuna is alright - but should be inducted by someone other than the rock who has never faced him.
your totally right!

Dr. Death
02-13-2012, 08:59 AM
The Rock is inducting him because they're family

Well that explains it then. It also explains how Rock got to be a main eventer, all he had to do was ride the coattails of all of his relation.

Y2Jandy
02-13-2012, 11:02 AM
Well that explains it then. It also explains how Rock got to be a main eventer, all he had to do was ride the coattails of all of his relation.

Rock became a main eventer because of his talent, simple as.

Dr. Death
02-13-2012, 03:32 PM
Rock became a main eventer because of his talent, simple as.

The only talent he has is his mic skills, simple as.

Y2Jandy
02-13-2012, 03:40 PM
The only talent he has is his mic skills, simple as.

Not at all,Rocks been in plenty of classic matches.All his matches with Austin were awesome,he's had great matches with foley,jericho,angle,triple H,just about every big star and it takes two men to make a great match.So I think that clearly proves he has great in ring skills as well.

Dr. Death
02-13-2012, 04:01 PM
Not at all,Rocks been in plenty of classic matches.All his matches with Austin were awesome,he's had great matches with foley,jericho,angle,triple H,just about every big star and it takes two men to make a great match.So I think that clearly proves he has great in ring skills as well.

All it proves is that you like him. It is your opinion he is a good wrestler, which is fine. But it is my opinion that he sucks at wrestling and to prove it all one has to do is actually watch him try to wrestle instead of getting wrapped up in the hype.

Y2Jandy
02-13-2012, 04:17 PM
All it proves is that you like him. It is your opinion he is a good wrestler, which is fine. But it is my opinion that he sucks at wrestling and to prove it all one has to do is actually watch him try to wrestle instead of getting wrapped up in the hype.

You're entitled to your opinon but I'm just trying to understand what makes you think he's bad.I mean he sells well he can tell a good story in the ring and his move set is quite varied.So do you just disagree with all these things I've mentioned or is their another reason?

Dr. Death
02-13-2012, 04:32 PM
You're entitled to your opinon but I'm just trying to understand what makes you think he's bad.I mean he sells well he can tell a good story in the ring and his move set is quite varied.So do you just disagree with all these things I've mentioned or is their another reason?

His move set has a lot left to be desired. Just look at his version of the Sharpshooter which he botches every time, The People's Elbow which ranks up there with Hogan's leg drop in terms of effectiveness, his arm drag doesn't even touch his opponent, about the only move that looks halfway decent is his version of a spine buster. He does have mic skills and his selling is ok, but as far as actual wrestling skill goes, he sucks. Rock will say it himself and has said it himself.

Kryptonite
02-15-2012, 12:59 PM
But guys, Edge is awesome.. :rolleyes:

Kryptonite
02-18-2012, 02:30 AM
still too early
i don't give a crappy crap shitty shit about 'too early' , he is supposed to be in it, now he is in it. done!

Kryptonite
02-18-2012, 02:56 AM
before Randy Savage, Lex Luger, Owen Hart, Jake Roberts, Rick Rude, my list can go on before inducting Edge
edge has become more a legend than all of them..

Kryptonite
02-18-2012, 03:03 AM
nothing against Edge but what?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
he really did, 42 title reigns, legendary tlc matches, fucking a whore on raw, putting a hardcore legend through a burning table

Kryptonite
02-18-2012, 03:12 AM
so? winning titles doesn't count people have paved the way for him to even do all that shit
but lets be realistic, edge is a bigger legend than them guys

Kryptonite
02-18-2012, 03:19 AM
Bigger than Randy Savage? Are you kidding me?
for me, i think he is bigger than Savage

KJ PUNK
02-26-2012, 01:16 PM
So TKB do you think that Eddie shouldn't have been inducted the first year after he died? Or was that too soon? Stop hating because you hate WWE. You damn well know that Owen will never get in because of Martha Hart. Savage is the only one out of your list that SHOULD be in before Edge. The others were great performers, but Edge's longevity in the WWE (and not being a crazed coke-head like Roberts) put him above the others.

Chris.Vendetta
03-01-2012, 03:39 AM
What do you think guys? Evolution is modeled after THe FOur Horsemen.

URATOOL
03-01-2012, 03:42 AM
What do you think guys? Evolution is modeled after THe FOur Horsemen.

So this is Flair second entry in to the HoF and he gets to induct himself!! Wow his ego would final explode!

RatedRorayJames
03-01-2012, 03:49 AM
So this is Flair second entry in to the HoF and he gets to induct himself!! Wow his ego would final explode!

agreed xOVER 9000!!

Loser--17
03-01-2012, 05:27 AM
I Think Dusty Rhodes should induct The Horsemen

ThisIsMyYard
03-01-2012, 05:56 AM
it would be pretty cool if Evolution inducted the Four Horsemen.

URATOOL
03-01-2012, 06:01 AM
it would be pretty cool if Evolution inducted the Four Horsemen.

You know Flair was in bit right?

Wade Barrett 1979
03-01-2012, 07:55 AM
I Think Dusty Rhodes should induct The Horsemen

The rumour is HHH, HBK and Rhodes will induct them.

VanHooliganX
03-01-2012, 08:43 AM
So this is Flair second entry in to the HoF and he gets to induct himself!! Wow his ego would final explode!

This before or after he blades?

cloverstone82
03-01-2012, 10:16 AM
Should be Vince

URATOOL
03-11-2012, 05:41 PM
Whilst there are many views from people that say he won't ever be inducted because he didn't wrestle for Vince, I believe one day he will. His contribution to the industry is too large to be ignored. He may not have been a WWE employee ever, but they still love to show his work on their Youtube channel and on Vintage Collection. He has wrestled against some of their top names over the years and his work is one of the reason the WCW was as big as it was. And without the WCW, the WWE would be a different company today. So his impact can't be ignored.

Will we really have to wait until Vince has gone for the Stinger to be inducted? I hope not. I'd love to see Stinger's speech done in full face paint and that is gonna look ridiculous when he's 65*.









*yes I'm aware it's gonna look a bit odd anyway if he's in a tux with his face painted.

Wade Barrett 1979
03-11-2012, 05:49 PM
I don't think him never having wrestled for WWE, will matter in the end! I have a feeling that Vince would like him in there and that's all that counts to get you in!

As for when? I can see it being at some point in the next five years! It'll be interesting to see if he'll be the 'Headline' inductee or in the same year as one of WWE's own 'huge' names!

bearkg88
03-11-2012, 06:08 PM
I don't think him never having wrestled for WWE, will matter in the end! I have a feeling that Vince would like him in there and that's all that counts to get you in!

As for when? I can see it being at some point in the next five years! It'll be interesting to see if he'll be the 'Headline' inductee or in the same year as one of WWE's own 'huge' names!

I think he would be the headline act. I agree with though, I can see it being within the next five years. Basically, sooner rather than later

Sydnister
03-11-2012, 06:19 PM
Sting will be inducted into the WWE HoF once he is completely done with TNA and Vince is ready to put the Sting DVD out. My guess is that this will happen sooner rather than later. Vince owns the bulk of the footage of Stings wrestling career.

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2012, 06:22 PM
If the 2012 end of the World theory turns out to be true might never....

But seriously, maybe Wrestlemania XXX in NYC if Sting don't stay in in TNA up till then???

akbar
03-11-2012, 06:23 PM
i dont think he ever will, didnt work WWE so i guess thats the only thing to hold him back

bearkg88
03-11-2012, 06:25 PM
i dont think he ever will, didnt work WWE so i guess thats the only thing to hold him back

I think the only thing holding him back is being with TNA right now. My guess is if he wasn't there, Vince would have scooped him at by now

Wade Barrett 1979
03-11-2012, 06:30 PM
If the 2012 end of the World theory turns out to be true might never....

But seriously, maybe Wrestlemania XXX in NYC if Sting don't stay in in TNA up till then???

I was thinking WM XXX but I have a feeling that year could be Taker or Rock!

bearkg88
03-11-2012, 06:33 PM
I was thinking WM XXX but I have a feeling that year could be Taker or Rock!

If the reports are right that Taker is going to keep going for a little while, I could see Mania 30 being his induction to HOF and final match in the WWE

Wade Barrett 1979
03-11-2012, 06:34 PM
If the reports are right that Taker is going to keep going for a little while, I could see Mania 30 being his induction to HOF and final match in the WWE

That's a very real possibility!

bearkg88
03-11-2012, 06:35 PM
That's a very real possibility!

I mean it would kind of make sense, with Mania 30 being a milestone, having Takers retirement match be the crown jewel of the show would make a good moment in history

Wade Barrett 1979
03-11-2012, 06:38 PM
I mean it would kind of make sense, with Mania 30 being a milestone, having Takers retirement match be the crown jewel of the show would make a good moment in history

Yup, look at the last milestone WM XXV, none other than Steve Austin!

Robstar
03-11-2012, 06:54 PM
I found his admission that he was very close to signing with WWE during that whole "Sting's Coming!!" era to be very revealing, in that he was actually considering it. Also Nikita Koloff said in an interview the other day that he and Sting were the only 2 guys never to go there, yet I believe Koloff will be in there soon and he was in attendance last year

Bob Bowman
03-11-2012, 06:58 PM
Sting will be inducted, period. Just after he leaves TNA.....

Bob Bowman
03-11-2012, 07:00 PM
Big Van Vader should be inducted as well. I loved the whole "White Castle of Fear" he had going on with Sting back in the days.lol

The Expendable
03-11-2012, 07:22 PM
Well, I think Vince is gonna make that offer at some point but I don't see any positive answer coming from Sting plus I think Nash and Scott Hall should get inducted first

Tomsta666
03-11-2012, 07:23 PM
Can't see it myself. But never say never right?

URATOOL
03-11-2012, 07:29 PM
Well, I think Vince is gonna make that offer at some point but I don't see any positive answer coming from Sting plus I think Nash and Scott Hall should get inducted first

I'm not disputing that Hall and Nash should also be inducted at some point, but I'm curious to know why you feel they should go in before Sting?

Dr. Death
03-11-2012, 07:32 PM
Sting will not be in the WWE HOF because Vince wont induct him unless he signs with WWE and Sting refuses to do so.

URATOOL
03-11-2012, 07:36 PM
Sting will not be in the WWE HOF because Vince wont induct him unless he signs with WWE and Sting refuses to do so.

And you know all of this for a fact. Riiiiiiiiiiiight......

Dr. Death
03-11-2012, 07:40 PM
And you know all of this for a fact. Riiiiiiiiiiiight......

Sting said it himself. He said he was close to signing last year, but decided not to because he doesn't trust Vince McMahon. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me. By the way since when are you interested in facts? I thought people could post opinion on here also, much like you do.

The Expendable
03-11-2012, 07:50 PM
I'm not disputing that Hall and Nash should also be inducted at some point, but I'm curious to know why you feel they should go in before Sting?

Well, Hall and Nash have wrestle for WWE before and they have done more things for the company than Sting

bearkg88
03-11-2012, 08:03 PM
Sting said it himself. He said he was close to signing last year, but decided not to because he doesn't trust Vince McMahon. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me. By the way since when are you interested in facts? I thought people could post opinion on here also, much like you do.

I remember reading that, but, and correct me if I am wrong in thinking this, what is stopping sting from signing a legends contract down the road. He wouldn't have to commit to a set # of appearances on raw or sd, all it would mean is vince could push a buttload of sting merch and sting gets into the hof(and am I the only one who thinks you don't need a contract to be inducted to the hof?)

Dr. Death
03-11-2012, 08:07 PM
I remember reading that, but, and correct me if I am wrong in thinking this, what is stopping sting from signing a legends contract down the road. He wouldn't have to commit to a set # of appearances on raw or sd, all it would mean is vince could push a buttload of sting merch and sting gets into the hof(and am I the only one who thinks you don't need a contract to be inducted to the hof?)

Sting just doesn't trust Vince, and until he does I don't think he'll sign anything. I could be wrong, but I don't think so at this point in time. It's not about the schedule, it's about trust. Also, evidently it's Vince who thinks you need a contract to be inducted into the WWE's HOF.

HCollins-TNA1
03-11-2012, 08:16 PM
I was thinking WM XXX but I have a feeling that year could be Taker or Rock!
If this year isn't his last year next year will be with 29 and going 21-0..... But yeah I believe WM XXX will be the year Taker goes in!!! But why not Sting as well???? The WWE HOF always has 2 or 3 big names and if in NYC at MSG why not???

The Brown One
03-11-2012, 08:28 PM
Sting might get inducted when hes dead. I'm serious. As Death said, he doesn't trust Vince. Hes even said so several times in the past. Something to do with his religious background, and the WWE being too edgy (this was back then), and also that Vince will screw him over, just like he did to the WCW guys when they first joined the WWE - remember Booker T? They made him look like a joke.
There's a small chance that Sting will sign with the WWE, but there's seriously no point of him making tv appearances, because hes nearing the end of his career now.

URATOOL
03-11-2012, 08:50 PM
Sting said it himself. He said he was close to signing last year, but decided not to because he doesn't trust Vince McMahon. Look it up yourself if you don't believe me. By the way since when are you interested in facts? I thought people could post opinion on here also, much like you do.

Oh it was just an opinion. It read like a statement of fact. I tend to preceed my opinions with "I think/don't think" or "I reckon" etc.

Marky2012
03-11-2012, 09:21 PM
i dont see him ever not just coz he never work for wwe because i think he wasnt that big of a deal compared to guys like stonecold, the rock, shawn michaels, undertaker, edge, eddie guerrero, and so on, i dont like him and think he was just some wcw wash up and his ego is too big for the E.

Y2JLionsault
03-11-2012, 09:34 PM
It definitely won't be while Vince is still alive. Simply put he didn't want to work under VKM and VKM has a huge ego. He would not put someone in there that didn't want to work with him and stuck to his word for so long. Even then there is logic in Vince not wanting someone who refused to work for the WWE in the WWE Hall of Fame. Yes the Stinger did a lot for the business but WWE isn't the whole business, it is a part of the business and a part that Sting wanted nothing to do with. I wanted Sting in the WWE, I love the guy. However at this point there is no place for him in the WWE. There wouldn't be much for him if he were to go there except to take on the streak. And just facing the Undertaker once does not warrant HoF induction. It's too late and IMO Sting shouldn't be inducted into the WWE HoF.

URATOOL
03-11-2012, 09:45 PM
i dont see him ever not just coz he never work for wwe because i think he wasnt that big of a deal compared to guys like stonecold, the rock, shawn michaels, undertaker, edge, eddie guerrero, and so on, i dont like him and think he was just some wcw wash up and his ego is too big for the E.

I'm going to take a guess now that you are to young to remember him in his prime.

MachoManFan
03-11-2012, 10:07 PM
i dont see him ever not just coz he never work for wwe because i think he wasnt that big of a deal compared to guys like stonecold, the rock, shawn michaels, undertaker, edge, eddie guerrero, and so on, i dont like him and think he was just some wcw wash up and his ego is too big for the E.

When I was younger Sting was pretty much the only wrestler I could name besides Hogan. They don't call him "The Icon" for shits and giggles.

On Topic:
I would love to see Sting in the HOF while alive. He'd have to give his speech in Crow make up though, Surfer Sting would be silly on an old guy and Joker Sting is exclusively TNA (so far). Much as I'd love to see him in WWE I don't think it will ever happen, maybe a legend's contract after he retires but I doubt he'll ever work a schedule. One way or another it will happen and not a moment too soon.

The could do a double header of Sting and DDP - who only had a short stint with WWE.

Robstar
03-11-2012, 10:31 PM
Abdullah never worked for WWE, yet he was inducted. Sting just doesn't trust Vince to use him right

KJ PUNK
03-11-2012, 10:44 PM
I think Sting will get inducted, but it will HAVE to be a year when Wrestlemania is in WCW country again. It would be odd for it to happen in MSG when (to my knowledge) Sting never wrestled there.

Rockstar83
03-11-2012, 11:00 PM
to answer it simply: When he has no part in TNA

stone cold bruiser brody
03-11-2012, 11:24 PM
The question is will he want to be in the HOF? I'm sure he'll be asked to.

bearkg88
03-11-2012, 11:43 PM
The question is will he want to be in the HOF? I'm sure he'll be asked to.

Yeah I thought about that. I'm sure he will get asked to be inducted, but will he want to. I'd say 50/50

stone cold bruiser brody
03-11-2012, 11:57 PM
Yeah I thought about that. I'm sure he will get asked to be inducted, but will he want to. I'd say 50/50
lol you've given him better odds than i have.

The Phantom Menace
03-12-2012, 02:39 AM
Sting will get inducted into the WWE's HOF at the end of his career &the end of his dealings with TNA! Vince respects Sting for standing behind his convictions & not whorering himself for the quick payday. Always remember Vince respects people with"Grapefruits" & Sting wouldn't be asked to wrestle, just appear. About a dozen wrestlers have been inducted while never have ever worked for WWE in their careers.

Dr. Death
03-12-2012, 05:53 AM
Oh it was just an opinion. It read like a statement of fact. I tend to preceed my opinions with "I think/don't think" or "I reckon" etc.

My Bad, sometimes I forget to state that it's opinion. :) Anyway, like Robstar and TBO, etc... including myself have stated, it's all about the trust issue between Sting and Vince. Would I like to see him inducted? yeah. I just don't know if he will be.

Wade Barrett 1979
03-12-2012, 05:56 AM
If this year isn't his last year next year will be with 29 and going 21-0..... But yeah I believe WM XXX will be the year Taker goes in!!! But why not Sting as well???? The WWE HOF always has 2 or 3 big names and if in NYC at MSG why not???

It is possible, I just thought they might not have two 'headline' inductions but you never know!

Sahu
03-12-2012, 09:18 AM
Even then there is logic in Vince not wanting someone who refused to work for the WWE in the WWE Hall of Fame.

Antonio Inoki is a guy who refused to drop his belt after winning WWF Championship from Bob backland...ans also refused to have acontract with WWF back then..so VKM has deleted the history of Inoki's Championship victory from teh history..n has not inducted to HOF...till recent...while he was inducted to HOF by WCW and Wrestling Observers in 96 itself...

so if VKM can induct a man who refused the championship to HOF (though late..) ha can induct Sting also..but..will sting accepts it???

Sahu
03-12-2012, 09:31 AM
i dont see him ever not just coz he never work for wwe because i think he wasnt that big of a deal compared to guys like stonecold, the rock, shawn michaels, undertaker, edge, eddie guerrero, and so on, i dont like him and think he was just some wcw wash up and his ego is too big for the E.

r u serious bro???

I mean Really really Really really??

STING is probably the second biggest name for WCW after Ric Flair..he's the man WCW always looked at..he was at teh centre of everything in WCW...n mind it wcw was world's second biggest company over a decade n for a couple of years it was even at teh #1 position....

Sting is the centre of that promotion...n if he's not a big draw...why would WCW put money on him??

STING is THE ICON!!! he's one of the all time BESTs of this industry!!

Have you seen his video of why he never joined WWE?? pls browse it n see it...he had a valid point...n is proven with names like DDP, Booker being neglected in WWE...

JSullivan
03-12-2012, 02:59 PM
Sting will get inducted.

He's been within millimeters of signing for the 'E before, so I don't think there's necessarily any hard feelings there between hima nd Vince. Vinca wants him, and Sting wants to be in the WWE, but I think he's very comfortable where he is, and also a bit scared that the WWE would misuse him and ruin his character, per se.

Although, given his recent 'joker' gimmick there isn't much to ruin.

Robstar
03-12-2012, 03:13 PM
Sting will get inducted.

He's been within millimeters of signing for the 'E before, so I don't think there's necessarily any hard feelings there between hima nd Vince. Vinca wants him, and Sting wants to be in the WWE, but I think he's very comfortable where he is, and also a bit scared that the WWE would misuse him and ruin his character, per se.

Although, given his recent 'joker' gimmick there isn't much to ruin.

Lol, oh I don't know, I thought the Sting/Joker thing wasn't too bad. It's not like his character has been really original since his surfer era. He wore that Crow gimmick to death, at least he was trying something different.

Cabers
03-12-2012, 03:40 PM
In a land far far far away but seriously its going to be a while.

magglis
03-12-2012, 03:54 PM
i dont see him ever not just coz he never work for wwe because i think he wasnt that big of a deal compared to guys like stonecold, the rock, shawn michaels, undertaker, edge, eddie guerrero, and so on, i dont like him and think he was just some wcw wash up and his ego is too big for the E.

http://www.sbrforum.com/Pictures/Areyouserious.jpghttp://www.essex1.com/people/paul/whois2.gif

JSullivan
03-12-2012, 04:48 PM
Lol, oh I don't know, I thought the Sting/Joker thing wasn't too bad. It's not like his character has been really original since his surfer era. He wore that Crow gimmick to death, at least he was trying something different.

Well, yeah. But as a huge fan of The Crow, I would've hated someone blatantly ripping it off, but I still loved Sting throughout.

It's a bit like the Undertaker being "American Badass" - Just stick with the gimmick that's worked for most of your career; it's worked for a reason.

Dr. Death
03-12-2012, 06:42 PM
Oh it was just an opinion. It read like a statement of fact. I tend to preceed my opinions with "I think/don't think" or "I reckon" etc.

Since When?

URATOOL
03-12-2012, 07:30 PM
Since When?

Probably at some point during the first few years of school. I can't be more precise, as I failed to keep an exact record of my schooling. If I had to narrow it down I would say sometime between the ages of 6 and 8, when I was starting to write more stories and mini essays. So that would be what.....errrrm.....1983 maybe. Sorry I can't be of more help to you. Please don't hold it against me for too long.

K3zi4
03-13-2012, 03:01 PM
It's been mentioned in this thread already, I had a quick glance. But Sting has been very close to signing with WWE quite a few times now, I think within the next few years he'll jump ship to WWE and have his final few runs there before he retires. Then he'll be inducted into the HoF.

HCollins-TNA1
03-13-2012, 03:38 PM
When I was younger Sting was pretty much the only wrestler I could name besides Hogan. They don't call him "The Icon" for shits and giggles.

On Topic:
I would love to see Sting in the HOF while alive. He'd have to give his speech in Crow make up though, Surfer Sting would be silly on an old guy and Joker Sting is exclusively TNA (so far). Much as I'd love to see him in WWE I don't think it will ever happen, maybe a legend's contract after he retires but I doubt he'll ever work a schedule. One way or another it will happen and not a moment too soon.

The could do a double header of Sting and DDP - who only had a short stint with WWE.
Just thinking what if Sting would sign a year or so deal with the WWE.... what would his gimmick be.... In his early days it was the bleach blonde surfer Sting, then the crow Sting, late WCW early TNA days was the Jim Carey Mask, now the Joker Sting.... Maybe just plain Steve Borden???

K3zi4
03-13-2012, 03:46 PM
Sting as surprise entrant in 2013 royal rumble, now THAT would be entertainment.

URATOOL
03-13-2012, 03:47 PM
Just thinking what if Sting would sign a year or so deal with the WWE.... what would his gimmick be.... In his early days it was the bleach blonde surfer Sting, then the crow Sting, late WCW early TNA days was the Jim Carey Mask, now the Joker Sting.... Maybe just plain Steve Borden???

He could come back as Blade Runner Flash. Ah man. What if they also resigned Blade Runner Rock!

HCollins-TNA1
03-13-2012, 03:50 PM
He could come back as Blade Runner Flash. Ah man. What if they also resigned Blade Runner Rock!
One of WCW failures..... They had them together and could had sold out any arena maybe even get tons of buys...

URATOOL
03-13-2012, 03:52 PM
One of WCW failures..... They had them together and could had sold out any arena maybe even get tons of buys...

Handled right the Blade Runners could have been one of the biggest tag teams of all time. But to be fair I'm glad they went solo and we got to great singles entertainers.

URATOOL
03-13-2012, 03:55 PM
Oh for those that don't know the Blade Runners were the team of Ultimate Warrior and Sting (before they became UW and Sting).

http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/pictures/b/bladerunners/04.jpg

HCollins-TNA1
03-13-2012, 03:59 PM
Handled right the Blade Runners could have been one of the biggest tag teams of all time. But to be fair I'm glad they went solo and we got to great singles entertainers.
Too bad they didn't let them face each as well..... It was a wrestling fans dream match in the late 80s and the 1990s..

URATOOL
03-13-2012, 04:05 PM
Too bad they didn't let them face each as well..... It was a wrestling fans dream match in the late 80s and the 1990s..

Now that would have been a huge match. Forget Rock Cena. I'd have sold a kidney to see that match (obviously someone else's kidney, but you get the idea...)

Zekic
03-13-2012, 04:43 PM
How about at WM XXX we get sting vs undertaker match up,and they both headline HOF induction(meybe even induct each other?)

URATOOL
03-13-2012, 05:06 PM
How about at WM XXX we get sting vs undertaker match up,and they both headline HOF induction(meybe even induct each other?)

Because that ship has sailed. 5 years ago it would of been a good match. 10 years ago it would have been a great match and 15 years ago it could have been awesome! But now? No. Both can still go, but not like they use to. It wouldn't be as bad as Hogan vs Flair 2011, but it wouldn't do either of them any favours reputation wise.

Steve Austin
03-13-2012, 05:10 PM
Next week.

Rassling_Fan
03-13-2012, 07:47 PM
Have you seen his video of why he never joined WWE?? pls browse it n see it...he had a valid point...n is proven with names like DDP, Booker being neglected in WWE...

The thing is that video was taken years before he "almost signed with them". And seeing them now, they got a cushy job and make money without having to work in the ring. Not to mention Vince McMahon made Rey Mysterio into a marketing monster when in WCW they thought removing the mask would make him more marketable. Vince McMahon plus Sting equals a gold mine of merchandises.

Besides, every time I see Sting in TNA it makes me wonder his real reason for not jumping ship. A few years ago, I could have believed that. Now, I don't think so.

Zekic
03-14-2012, 12:32 AM
Because that ship has sailed. 5 years ago it would of been a good match. 10 years ago it would have been a great match and 15 years ago it could have been awesome! But now? No. Both can still go, but not like they use to. It wouldn't be as bad as Hogan vs Flair 2011, but it wouldn't do either of them any favours reputation wise.
For me that would be about epic moments not about a match itself.+you can always add more use of weapons,from technical side match wouldnt be that good, well it would be bad,considering who is in.. but just it would be so damn epic.

URATOOL
03-14-2012, 01:13 AM
For me that would be about epic moments not about a match itself.+you can always add more use of weapons,from technical side match wouldnt be that good, well it would be bad,considering who is in.. but just it would be so damn epic.

Hell no. Yes a fair bit of their reps are built on gimmick and booking, but they were, in their primes, also great in the ring. Taker had a move set that most of the current roster would stuggle with and he's nearly 7'! Sting on the other hand was a power house for his size. He had the strenght of Cena back in the day. Take a look at the video below. Nowadays move like that are reserve for people like Ryan and Jackson to pull off!

So no. For me the match needed to happen back when they were still at 90-100% of their bests. Not somewhere under 80%. Which is where I'd put them both now. (sorry Taker and Sting. no disrespect meant by that)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7x3Ako5WAM

PandaMassacre
03-14-2012, 01:34 AM
I would say when his contract with TNA expires. That is only my opinion.

Dr. Death
03-14-2012, 06:06 AM
Hell no. Yes a fair bit of their reps are built on gimmick and booking, but they were, in their primes, also great in the ring. Taker had a move set that most of the current roster would stuggle with and he's nearly 7'! Sting on the other hand was a power house for his size. He had the strenght of Cena back in the day. Take a look at the video below. Nowadays move like that are reserve for people like Ryan and Jackson to pull off!

So no. For me the match needed to happen back when they were still at 90-100% of their bests. Not somewhere under 80%. Which is where I'd put them both now. (sorry Taker and Sting. no disrespect meant by that)

I'd have to agree with this statement. Uratool is right, a match between Taker and Sting would have been so much better if it would have happened in their prime. At this point in each of their careers I feel that they would struggle to pull off the move sets that they used to do.